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Roxersboxers
02-25-2012, 03:22 PM
Was watching the combine for a little while and this guys numbers popped out at me.
Hes 6'5 252 pounds
4.53 40 yard dash (3rd best for TE's)
36 inch vertical (Best among TE's)
11 foot broad jump (Best among TE's)
He's an athletic freak and these are almost identical to what jimmy graham put up in the combine 2 years ago. In no way shape or form am i saying hes going to be anywhere near as good as graham, just pointing out they had similar combine numbers and he has the potential to be that kind of player. Hes projected to be a mid 3rd to early fourth round pick. I think he would be a nice pick up for the giants in the third round. Any thoughts?

critters
02-25-2012, 03:27 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up.

Roxersboxers
02-25-2012, 03:28 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good.

myles2424
02-25-2012, 03:42 PM
Wasn't this guy a big deal before this season? I remember him being talked up as a beast & supposedly having a bad year this season..

Roxersboxers
02-25-2012, 03:49 PM
Wasn't this guy a big deal before this season? I remember him being talked up as a beast & supposedly having a bad year this season.. Im not sure. I havent heard much about him...i only just witnessed his athletic ability. The reason he had a bad season this year, and this is only my observation, is probably because he had a top ten talent in Gabbert throwing to him last year...and this year he had a QB who wasnt as good. With Eli throwing to him i think he could dominate.

Neverend
02-25-2012, 05:11 PM
Little bit of a workout warrior. Wasn't impressive during senior bowl week, reports said he looked stiff out of his breaks and struggled getting separation.

However his vertical leap definitely is seen on the field. IMO he has the best body control out of any TE in this draft with Paulson coming second.

juice33s
02-25-2012, 05:40 PM
Little bit of a workout warrior. Wasn't impressive during senior bowl week, reports said he looked stiff out of his breaks and struggled getting separation.

However his vertical leap definitely is seen on the field. IMO he has the best body control out of any TE in this draft with Paulson coming second.
I don't know about body control, but hes under sized and plays in slow motion...probably won't even be drafted

juice33s
02-25-2012, 05:40 PM
Little bit of a workout warrior. Wasn't impressive during senior bowl week, reports said he looked stiff out of his breaks and struggled getting separation.

However his vertical leap definitely is seen on the field. IMO he has the best body control out of any TE in this draft with Paulson coming second.
I don't know about body control, but hes under sized and plays in slow motion...probably won't even be drafted

Voldamort
02-25-2012, 05:51 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!

Neverend
02-25-2012, 06:03 PM
Little bit of a workout warrior. Wasn't impressive during senior bowl week, reports said he looked stiff out of his breaks and struggled getting separation.

However his vertical leap definitely is seen on the field. IMO he has the best body control out of any TE in this draft with Paulson coming second.
I don't know about body control, but hes under sized and plays in slow motion...probably won't even be drafted


I agree but watch some of the kids highlights. He has great hands and is good and one of the most consistent TEs in this draft at plucking the ball out of the air. Redeye seems to be pretty high on him as well

But yes I agree, gets little to no separation and lacks any kind of speed. But, hey, his ball skills is definitely NFL talent material. Wouldn't be bad to take a flyer on him

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 06:26 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 06:53 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.
yeah it does.
reese said it himself the combine doesn't hurt anyone, people need to get out of the mind frame that the combine determines the past 4 years of a players collegiate career.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8273290e/An-elite-GM
0.33-0.56

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:02 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.
yeah it does.
reese said it himself the combine doesn't hurt anyone, people need to get out of the mind frame that the combine determines the past 4 years of a players collegiate career.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8273290e/An-elite-GM
0.33-0.56
Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure.

And your question was to voldamort's post: "no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!"

Which is clearly an opinion, an unsupported one. Not like he's gonna pull out a link with rock solid support to his opinion. Plus, there isn't anyone in this thread using Egnew's combine numbers to hurt him.

bLuereverie
02-25-2012, 07:04 PM
Over/Under 7.5 threads created asking for Chris Rainey to be drafted tomorrow?

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:05 PM
Over/Under 7.5 threads created asking for Chris Rainey to be drafted tomorrow?Under. I hope.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:16 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.
yeah it does.
reese said it himself the combine doesn't hurt anyone, people need to get out of the mind frame that the combine determines the past 4 years of a players collegiate career.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8273290e/An-elite-GM
0.33-0.56
Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure.

And your question was to voldamort's post: "no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!"

Which is clearly an opinion, an unsupported one. Not like he's gonna pull out a link with rock solid support to his opinion. Plus, there isn't anyone in this thread using Egnew's combine numbers to hurt him.

what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:26 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.

giantman8493
02-25-2012, 07:28 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.dont even bother with that troll

TheEnigma
02-25-2012, 07:34 PM
I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.Pretty much. All it takes is for one team to reach for a player based on the public boards and you might as well just throw it in the garbage at that point. You would be really lucky just to guess the first 10 picks of the draft because someone will even do something unexpected there.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:38 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.
lol this kid
dude first it was a question for void but you wanna be captain save a post, i just gave light to the fact that the combine doesn't make the player and i gave fact for that by what reese said. he stated NO TE is going in the 1st i didn't say he was wrong i asked where is he getting that from.
you jumped into something blind by saying no one knows for sure, so what the point of you stating what i already stated?

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:41 PM
I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.Pretty much. All it takes is for one team to reach for a player based on the public boards and you might as well just throw it in the garbage at that point. You would be really lucky just to guess the first 10 picks of the draft because someone will even do something unexpected there.+1

Every year, my mock drafts get progressively worse, and I'd like to think I get smarter each year. It seems the more logic I put in my mocks, the least accurate there are. The draft is such a tricky topic. Some people say it is an "exact science" I just think it's a crapshoot.

Teams fall in love with players you don't even consider for their team. It's crazy and demoralizing if you put as much time in it as people do. I rarely do team projections and stick to player projections solely.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:42 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.dont even bother with that troll
who are you again?

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:45 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.
so whats the point of you arguing? that's my point.

There is no point! That was the reason of my first post in the first place. My first post to you in this thread was solely predicated on the fact that there was no point to even ask Voldamort where he got that info from, because it was clear that he either:

1.) Didn't get that info from anyone, and it was just a guess

or..

2.) If by some chance he did provide a link, whatever that link/article/video etc. produced would be equally as baseless

NYGRealityCheck
02-25-2012, 07:46 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.
yeah it does.
reese said it himself the combine doesn't hurt anyone, people need to get out of the mind frame that the combine determines the past 4 years of a players collegiate career.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8273290e/An-elite-GM
0.33-0.56


"Best Player Available" Reese said it himself several times. A very informative interview with the Giants GM. They already track these potential draft picks during the college football season. The Combine is not as crucial as some may think.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:47 PM
I'm a fan. Been wanting to get him in the 3rd round but his combine is going to shoot his stock up. True, But i still think Allen, Fleener and Charles will still go ahead of him. Hell, I wouldnt mind spending our second on the kid either. He looks very good. no Te's are going in the first round,they should start to come off the board at pick #42!
where do you get this from?
Does it matter? Not like anyone knows for sure.
yeah it does.
reese said it himself the combine doesn't hurt anyone, people need to get out of the mind frame that the combine determines the past 4 years of a players collegiate career.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d8273290e/An-elite-GM
0.33-0.56


"Best Player Available" Reese said it himself several times. A very informative interview with the Giants GM. They already track these potential draft picks during the college football season. The Combine is not as crucial as some may think.
exactly

TheEnigma
02-25-2012, 07:54 PM
Not that I'm accusing Reese personally of lying but this is not the time to trust the words of GM's. There's going to be so many smokescreens about what positions they are targeting, the players they invite for personal visits and so forth. The only team that can afford to be Oprah honest (lolol) right now is the Colts with the #1 pick.

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:55 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.
so whats the point of you arguing? that's my point.

There is no point! That was the reason of my first post in the first place. My first post to you in this thread was solely predicated on the fact that there was no point to even ask Voldamort where he got that info from, because it was clear that he either:

1.) Didn't get that info from anyone, and it was just a guess

or..

2.) If by some chance he did provide a link, whatever that link/article/video etc. produced would be equally as baseless

what i'm saying to you though is this... what i chose to ask a poster is between me and him when you interject sort of smart *** like then i will treat you as such. i knew it was his opinion, maybe i'm asking him in my way why he feels this way and i'm giving him proof that most GM's value tape over combine numbers, so to say No TE's go in the first is kind of premature, but whatever it is what it is

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 07:56 PM
Not that I'm accusing Reese personally of lying but this is not the time to trust the words of GM's. There's going to be so many smokescreens about what positions they are targeting, the players they invite for personal visits and so forth. The only team that can afford to be Oprah honest (lolol) right now is the Colts with the #1 pick.
fair enough
but the only truth in what reese said is BPA, what we don't know is what BPA is at 32 so to say this is not or this is BPA is blind shooting too me

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 07:59 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.
so whats the point of you arguing? that's my point.

There is no point! That was the reason of my first post in the first place. My first post to you in this thread was solely predicated on the fact that there was no point to even ask Voldamort where he got that info from, because it was clear that he either:

1.) Didn't get that info from anyone, and it was just a guess

or..

2.) If by some chance he did provide a link, whatever that link/article/video etc. produced would be equally as baseless

what i'm saying to you though is this... what i chose to ask a poster is between me and him when you interject sort of smart *** like then i will treat you as such. i knew it was his opinion, maybe i'm asking him in my way why he feels this way and i'm giving him proof that most GM's value tape over combine numbers, so to say No TE's go in the first is kind of premature, but whatever it is what it is
So basically you tried to bait him into using the combine so that you can get him with the Reese video.

Gotcha. I'll let you go through with your plan next time...lol

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 08:04 PM
what the **** are you talking about?
are you just arguing to argue?
i wanted to know where he got that no te is first round worthy
last i remembered fleener didn't do the 40
olson didn't do all the drills
wait till pro days to make those claims
whether its opinion or not doesn't make it wrong or right or smart or dumb im just asking where he got his information from.
reese goes by game tape to evaluate the players he likes, which is why i put it up. so basically you agree with what i said by saying "Nobody knows for sure where anyone goes, especially someone on this board. GMs have an idea, but nobody knows for sure." and your wrong GM's know the guy they want if reese feels one of these TE's are a value at 32 before 64 then BPA as always.
smfh
Lol what are you talking about? I don't disagree with you, I do think there are first round TEs in this draft, I just "smfh" at you for expecting him to provide you rock solid support for his claim considering nobody knows for absolute sure.

So yes I do agree with you, and I wasn't arguing with you, I didn't think I'd have to explain that. Perhaps I overestimated you.
so whats the point of you arguing? that's my point.

There is no point! That was the reason of my first post in the first place. My first post to you in this thread was solely predicated on the fact that there was no point to even ask Voldamort where he got that info from, because it was clear that he either:

1.) Didn't get that info from anyone, and it was just a guess

or..

2.) If by some chance he did provide a link, whatever that link/article/video etc. produced would be equally as baseless

what i'm saying to you though is this... what i chose to ask a poster is between me and him when you interject sort of smart *** like then i will treat you as such. i knew it was his opinion, maybe i'm asking him in my way why he feels this way and i'm giving him proof that most GM's value tape over combine numbers, so to say No TE's go in the first is kind of premature, but whatever it is what it is
So basically you tried to bait him into using the combine so that you can get him with the Reese video.

Gotcha. I'll let you go through with your plan next time...lol
tactical posting...smh lol

TheEnigma
02-25-2012, 08:14 PM
Speaking of TE's instead of tactical posting, what kind of TE do you think Reese will target? A polished, pro ready style TE or maybe one with better physical tools and upside but a little raw?

tonyt830
02-25-2012, 08:16 PM
To the original topic---Egnew did look pretty good today in the combine. Now, not that the combine is the only thing to rate a player, it is one of the tools used of course. But if Reese, Coughlin and Pope like what they saw today, I'm sure they will go to his pro day to evaluate him some more.</P>


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Personally if he is selected in the 3rd or 4th by our Giants, I would not mind. The one knock on him is he came from that Missouri spread system, known more for a vertical/receiving TE than an inline blocking TE.</P>

gmen0820
02-25-2012, 08:23 PM
Speaking of TE's instead of tactical posting, what kind of TE do you think Reese will target? A polished, pro ready style TE or maybe one with better physical tools and upside but a little raw?More of a Jermichael Finley type guy. During our win streak, from the Jets game on, Travis Beckum saw a sharp increase in snaps, while he played with Bear Pascoe (and later Jake Ballard).

I think, well it's obvious, the draft is going to have a lot more value with TEs that can line up in the slot and create mismatches. I think if Reese values a TE high, you might as well take your pick with Fleener, Allen and possibly Charles.

If Reese wants more of an inline guy, then Cory Harkey might be a guy he looks at, but that will be in the 4th-5th round most likely. But if Reese really sees the need in TE, he will have to go with one of those more talented guys listed above and have Pope show them the ropes.

tonyt830
02-25-2012, 08:26 PM
Speaking of TE's instead of tactical posting, what kind of TE do you think Reese will target? A polished, pro ready style TE or maybe one with better physical tools and upside but a little raw?thats a good question. I mean most "experts" and fans think that Fleener and Allen are the most pro ready. </P>


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But I guess it depends on what happens in FA for the Giants. I mean we have to get under the cap, first and foremost. I saw some of the FAs out there. A lot of fans would like to see a Shiancoe, Dressen or another FA come in. Well if the Giants were able to get the cap number straight and sign one of the FA TEs, then I could see them going after a "2nd tier" type TE. </P>


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I might like a TE like Green or Egnew in a later rd.</P>

rainierjef
02-25-2012, 08:45 PM
here's a tactical post.

Coby Fleener on his pro day will wow most nfl scouts not only with his 40 time but his knowledge for the postion and his line blocking ability.

stanford is a pro style ready system.

personal opinion here i don't think we need a burner vernon davis type speed player jason witten posted a 4.65 i think at the combine and look how versitile he is to the cowboys offense. i think fleener is in the mold of that type of TE, can block get off the blocks quick take a hit and keep upright, shown his atleticisim with one hand grabs.

IMHO he is the only TE that should be taken in the first round.

Voldamort
02-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Was watching the combine for a little while and this guys numbers popped out at me.
Hes 6'5 252 pounds
4.53 40 yard dash (3rd best for TE's)
36 inch vertical (Best among TE's)
11 foot broad jump (Best among TE's)
He's an athletic freak and these are almost identical to what jimmy graham put up in the combine 2 years ago. In no way shape or form am i saying hes going to be anywhere near as good as graham, just pointing out they had similar combine numbers and he has the potential to be that kind of player. Hes projected to be a mid 3rd to early fourth round pick. I think he would be a nice pick up for the giants in the third round. Any thoughts? the kid looks like a beast 2nd round?

Voldamort
02-25-2012, 09:40 PM
Speaking of TE's instead of tactical posting, what kind of TE do you think Reese will target? A polished, pro ready style TE or maybe one with better physical tools and upside but a little raw? dude great video post

Neverend
02-25-2012, 10:52 PM
here's a tactical post.

Coby Fleener on his pro day will wow most nfl scouts not only with his 40 time but his knowledge for the postion and his line blocking ability.

stanford is a pro style ready system

I disagree. Watching some of Fleener's games recently, stanford takes him off the field in nearly every in-line formation

The most recent game I watched (cal) he was lined up a good amount of times in the slot for a lot of that game too. They'll use him in-line sometimes but, again, against cal he was used all over the field and out wide especially.

BlueSanta
02-26-2012, 01:05 AM
here's a tactical post.

Coby Fleener on his pro day will wow most nfl scouts not only with his 40 time but his knowledge for the postion and his line blocking ability.

stanford is a pro style ready system

I disagree. Watching some of Fleener's games recently, stanford takes him off the field in nearly every in-line formation

Wait ...what?

You are confusing Fleener with someone else. The guy lines up tight to the line almost every play. When he doesnt, he is in a H-back position, but that was used far less this year than 2010. Stanford runs a VERY pro style offense.

Neverend
02-26-2012, 01:39 AM
here's a tactical post.

Coby Fleener on his pro day will wow most nfl scouts not only with his 40 time but his knowledge for the postion and his line blocking ability.

stanford is a pro style ready system

I disagree. Watching some of Fleener's games recently, stanford takes him off the field in nearly every in-line formation

Wait ...what?

You are confusing Fleener with someone else. The guy lines up tight to the line almost every play. When he doesnt, he is in* a H-back position, but that was used far less this year than 2010. Stanford runs a VERY pro style offense.


The op talked about his run blocking in-line. Not just being lined up tight to line.

Perhaps then it was that specific game but in the most recent game I watched (cal) he was replaced in-line in obvious run formations with #85 ryan hewitt like 95% of the time with the exception of 2 TE sets. Just an observation I made.

Yes he lines close to the line obviously because he is a TE but he lined up in the slot quite a lot in that game, as I watched every offensive snap. And really overall he is used all over the field, not "tight to the line on almost every play" and when he isn't its as "a H-back". Maybe it was just because of the two recent games i watched (cal, oregon) but I think you're dead wrong about that.