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NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 12:23 PM
http://www.tout.com/m/8h8bbg <-- doing drills

http://www.tout.com/m/cf42ok <-- Jogging

TuckYou
02-27-2012, 12:33 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </P>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </P>

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 01:53 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </p>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </p>

T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince &amp; T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy

burier
02-27-2012, 01:55 PM
lol.

You guys are funny

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 02:08 PM
lol.

You guys are funny

Whys that? [:)]

GameTime
02-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </P>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </P>


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no way he gets big money. Two ACLs and has yet to really prove he is all that. </P>

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 05:37 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </p>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </p>


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no way he gets big money. Two ACLs and has yet to really prove he is all that. </p>

Exactly.. should come fairly cheap... I'd sign him to a 3-4 year deal

nygsb42champs
02-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Lets hope he does not pull a Steve Smith. I would love to see him back. Hopefully he does not want a ton of money to stay here.

Blue daddy
02-27-2012, 05:44 PM
Come on what has he done? I don't think he deserves big money earn it first. It wouldn't bother me if we couldn't fit him under the cap.

Drez
02-27-2012, 05:50 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </P>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </P>




T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince &amp; T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy
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T2 is not a ballhawk. He had 5 picks in '10... on ~130 targets (1 every 26 targets). People knock Webster for having 4, but he did that on about half as many targets (1 every 19 targets, still not great, but a damn sight better than T2's).</P>

Voldamort
02-27-2012, 05:51 PM
nice he just need's to start doing some cuts on it,and the Giants will pay him!

Axels15
02-27-2012, 05:56 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he was*a bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </p>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </p>

T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince & T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy


Ball Hawk is EXACTLY what TT is!

TuckYou
02-27-2012, 06:45 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </P>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </P>




T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince &amp; T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy
Ball Hawk is EXACTLY what TT is!</P>


Man, are we talking about the same CB? I rarely saw him ball hawking, ever. He was a good cover guy, but could not defend the jump ball at all, and couldnt cover his assignments deep.The year TT had 5 ints, I think 2 or 3 were tipped to him! </P>


Im all for signing him back, but cheap. And I dont think that will happen. </P>


This is what I think TT as a deep CB...</P>


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A ball hawking CB?</P>


This isnt the only time he has done that either. I remember many times. </P>

nhpgiantsfan
02-27-2012, 07:04 PM
Decent player. Nothing special, coming off a big injury. Hope they don't offer him big money.

Firenugget
02-27-2012, 08:59 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </p>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </p>




T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince &amp; T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy
Ball Hawk is EXACTLY what TT is!</p>


Man, are we talking about the same CB? I rarely saw him ball hawking, ever. He was a good cover guy, but could not defend the jump ball at all, and couldnt cover his assignments deep.The year TT had 5 ints, I think 2 or 3 were tipped to him! </p>


Im all for signing him back, but cheap. And I dont think that will happen. </p>


This is what I think TT as a deep CB...</p>


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A ball hawking CB?</p>


This isnt the only time he has done that either. I remember many times. </p>

Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

But...I worry with knee injuries. They never seem to completely heal. LT..Sehorn...Hixon... I dunno, I wouldn't give him a very large deal for sure. Maybe sign him for one year and see what he does and then they can talk money next year if he does well.

GameTime
02-27-2012, 09:12 PM
Lets hope he does not pull a Steve Smith. I would love to see him back. Hopefully he does not want a ton of money to stay here.
what reason whould he possibly have to request a "ton of money"....
that makes no sense

GameTime
02-27-2012, 09:12 PM
Hope we can keep him in blue, but not for a bunch of dough. I kinda though he wasa bit overrated as a corner overall. He is great at position and tackling, but he doesnt seem to ball hawk or elevate to knock passes away. He was physical off the line, but not down the field. </P>


Overall though, I like him, but I think he would be behind Cweb and Prince next year. </P>




T2 is absolutely a ball hawk he just has issues dealing with speedy receivers... he gets burnt a lot over the top... however if our LBers can do their job we could give him safety help over the top.

He would play the role of Charles Woodson if Prince is ready to play the outside.


C-Web, Prince &amp; T2.... man this defense could be ridiculous if everyone could stay healthy
Ball Hawk is EXACTLY what TT is!</P>


Man, are we talking about the same CB? I rarely saw him ball hawking, ever. He was a good cover guy, but could not defend the jump ball at all, and couldnt cover his assignments deep.The year TT had 5 ints, I think 2 or 3 were tipped to him! </P>


Im all for signing him back, but cheap. And I dont think that will happen. </P>


This is what I think TT as a deep CB...</P>


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A ball hawking CB?</P>


This isnt the only time he has done that either. I remember many times. </P>




Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

But...I worry with knee injuries. They never seem to completely heal. LT..Sehorn...Hixon... I dunno, I wouldn't give him a very large deal for sure. Maybe sign him for one year and see what he does and then they can talk money next year if he does well.
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he's damaged goods.....</P>

Drez
02-27-2012, 09:44 PM
Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

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You can't just look at the number of picks.You also have to take a look at the number of targets. T2 was targeted nearly twice as many times as Webster in 2010, and only managed one more interception. Webster doesn't have as many picks simply because he isn't targeted as often.</P>


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Itlan
02-27-2012, 09:54 PM
TT is so unbelievably overrated on these forums it's ridiculous.

Drez
02-27-2012, 10:04 PM
TT is so unbelievably overrated on these forums it's ridiculous.</P>


He is. I like TT. He's a good corner. But, there's some people on here that think he's an elite level CB, and that he just isn't. </P>


I have to admit I was looking forward to seeing if (and hoping for) he could make the jump this past season. Unfortunately, hetore his ACL (again! eeeps!), so we weren't able to see.</P>


I wish him well and hope that if he's in Blue next season that he dominates.</P>

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 10:30 PM
The problem I had was when people compared T2 to C-Web.... some people even went as far as to say Terrell Thomas was the better corner...... it isn't even close.

Corey Webster is an elite CB, a shut down CB, a top tier CB.


The get gets better every single year no matter how the rest of the defense plays he remains his same shut down self.



If Webster doesn't finally get pro b owl recognition next season it's a damn shame.... he's been snubbed numerous times already.

alau53
02-27-2012, 10:31 PM
they should concentrat on signing aaron ross..not for big bucks but at least he's healthy, 2 x super bowl champ, and a good #2 corner..remember we all wanted steve smith back but reese made the correct move on him..sign smith to a $3M deal as a #3 wr to replace manningham

Firenugget
02-28-2012, 07:26 AM
Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

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You can't just look at the number of picks.You also have to take a look at the number of targets. T2 was targeted nearly twice as many times as Webster in 2010, and only managed one more interception. Webster doesn't have as many picks simply because he isn't targeted as often.</p>


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True enough. Either way, I agree that shoving him a bunch of money just for the sake of keeping him here would be a bad idea. I'd like him to stay but he has to come cheap. If not, Ross can start and Prince can work his way in and/or whoever else we end up with.

GameTime
02-28-2012, 09:27 AM
Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

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You can't just look at the number of picks.You also have to take a look at the number of targets. T2 was targeted nearly twice as many times as Webster in 2010, and only managed one more interception. Webster doesn't have as many picks simply because he isn't targeted as often.</P>


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True enough. Either way, I agree that shoving him a bunch of money just for the sake of keeping him here would be a bad idea. I'd like him to stay but he has to come cheap. If not, Ross can start and Prince can work his way in and/or whoever else we end up with.
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dont even know why some of you would think the Giants FO would give him a bunch of money. Two time ACL and has been a good CB not great. The ONLY way he stays on the Giants is a very low cap hit. Other than that he will be gone.</P>

TuckYou
02-28-2012, 10:24 AM
To be honest, since we rely on our pass rush so much, I dont see a huge drop off not resigning Ross and TT and resigning guys like Bruce Johnson, Brian Witherspoon and Justin Tryon. We could resign those 3 together for a fraction of what TT could probably get in FA. Also get a CB later in the draft.</P>


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Itlan
02-28-2012, 10:51 AM
TT is a priority because of his ability to play in the slot and he's a very good zone corner. The plan going forward is clearly for Prince to start outwide with Webby, and TT will take over that slot role.

I think they're sick of seeing Rolle there. You don't spend 9m on a safety who is relegated to playing the slot. I'm sure it bothers Reese.

blueomaha
02-28-2012, 11:15 AM
T2...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd-22ozOuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd-22ozOuI)

love this play....

Firenugget
02-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Webster in 7 years..16 INT. T2 in 3 years..11 INT. He has a nose for the ball.

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You can't just look at the number of picks.You also have to take a look at the number of targets. T2 was targeted nearly twice as many times as Webster in 2010, and only managed one more interception. Webster doesn't have as many picks simply because he isn't targeted as often.</p>


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True enough. Either way, I agree that shoving him a bunch of money just for the sake of keeping him here would be a bad idea. I'd like him to stay but he has to come cheap. If not, Ross can start and Prince can work his way in and/or whoever else we end up with.
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dont even know why some of you would think the Giants FO would give him a bunch of money. Two time ACL and has been a good CB not great. The ONLY way he stays on the Giants is a very low cap hit. Other than that he will be gone.</p>

I didn't say I thought they would. Just saying it would be a bad idea, I'm sure they know that too.

Blue daddy
02-28-2012, 08:23 PM
T2...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd-22ozOuI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipd-22ozOuI)
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love this play....

Perfect form but came close to knocking himself out on the rug.

JMFP2
02-29-2012, 01:43 AM
Still can't believe the Giants lost T2 for the season, and all those other guys.....and still won the ****ing Super Bowl.

foosball
02-29-2012, 02:32 AM
If he signs cheap, guys he's had two serious injuries. if some team is dumb enough to throw anymore than a couple million at him with a one year deal he isn't worth the risk. This team is soo strapped for cash it's not even funny .