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RoanokeFan
02-27-2012, 12:39 PM
BRANDON JACOBS AND GIANTS TRYING TO WORK OUT NEW CONTRACT (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/27/brandon-jacobs-and-the-new-york-giants-trying-to-work-out-new-contract/)

"According to Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star- Ledger, the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> have met with the representatives (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/02/giants_brandon_jacobs_reps_dis.html?utm_source=twi tterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_term=%23nyg) of <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a>in an attempt to work out a new contract.



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New England Patriots Patrick Chung and Kyle Arrington
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Giants</a> running back <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a> during the second quarter at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
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Jacobs is due a $500,000 roster bonus in March and has a base salary of over
$4 million this coming season.</p>
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<span style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(68,78,92); FONT-SIZE: 14px">The
Giants and representatives for <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a> spoke in Indianapolis during the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) Scouting Combine but did not come to an immediate
resolution about the running back's future, according to someone informed of the
discussions between the sides.</span></p></blockquote>


With the 6th highest projected cap number, the Giants are trying to free up
some space to allow themselves to sign some free agents and give out new
contracts to current members of the team (such as <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Victor Cruz" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/victor-cruz/" rel="tag nofollow">Victor
Cruz</a>).</p>


Though Jacobs saw a dip in production this past season, he is clearly a
veteran leader that the Giants like and he is still very effective down at the
goal line (perfect evidence is his franchise leading 56 touchdowns) and in pass
protection. He is only 1 year removed from a season where he averaged over 5
yard per carry. Contrary to popular belief, the 29 year old still has something
left in the tank.</p>


Jacobs has continually expressed his desire to retire as a Giant and get a
deal done, so expect that to happen in the coming weeks."
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Pakman
02-27-2012, 12:48 PM
Jacobs is only 29? I would rather keep him, but at a lower cap number obviously.

I don't see the harm in keeping BJ on this team.

Flip Empty
02-27-2012, 12:52 PM
Jacobs has more left than Bradshaw, I hope he returns. He can still play and is a fantastic leader.

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 01:07 PM
GET IT DONE!


Thanks Roa [B]

RoanokeFan
02-27-2012, 01:21 PM
I think if we shore up the OLine and improve their run blocking, BJ will make us proud in the role they ask him to fill.

NYG4lifeNYK
02-27-2012, 01:28 PM
I think if we shore up the OLine and improve their run blocking, BJ will make us proud in the role they ask him to fill.


A lot of people like to clown Jacobs &amp; call him the tip toe burglar... but if you watched last season when the offensive line did it's job &amp; decided that they wanted to actually block someone for a change... Jacobs was a bully... he was running over 3 defenders, juking people out of their cleats, hitting the hole hard for 10+...


Jacobs is a man amongst boys. Everyone acts like it's his fault he can't pick up a few inches on 3rd/4th &amp; short. EVERYONE &amp; their mother knows we are running straight up the middle, the O-Line usually gets zero push, the blocking is awful, D-linemen come off the line untouched most times &amp; meet Brandon in the backfield.

RoanokeFan
02-27-2012, 01:37 PM
I think if we shore up the OLine and improve their run blocking, BJ will make us proud in the role they ask him to fill.


A lot of people like to clown Jacobs &amp; call him the tip toe burglar... but if you watched last season when the offensive line did it's job &amp; decided that they wanted to actually block someone for a change... Jacobs was a bully... he was running over 3 defenders, juking people out of their cleats, hitting the hole hard for 10+...


Jacobs is a man amongst boys. Everyone acts like it's his fault he can't pick up a few inches on 3rd/4th &amp; short. EVERYONE &amp; their mother knows we are running straight up the middle, the O-Line usually gets zero push, the blocking is awful, D-linemen come off the line untouched most times &amp; meet Brandon in the backfield.


I hope he stays and that the line explodes off the ball

TrueBlue@NYC
02-27-2012, 01:39 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.

Flip Empty
02-27-2012, 01:45 PM
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RoanokeFan
02-27-2012, 01:50 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.

He's already said he's willing to re-structure again.

GameTime
02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.</P>


Jacobs has 20 less carries than AB in 2011 so who is the backup here?? Both RBs cant bare the load of a fulltime back. They need a Ware or a Scott to help out. </P>


Jacobs will have to get a new cap friendly contract in order to stay. I say they get it done. </P>

nycisgreat
02-27-2012, 02:31 PM
BRANDON JACOBS AND GIANTS TRYING TO WORK OUT NEW CONTRACT (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/27/brandon-jacobs-and-the-new-york-giants-trying-to-work-out-new-contract/)

"According to Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star- Ledger, the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> have met with the representatives (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/02/giants_brandon_jacobs_reps_dis.html?utm_source=twi tterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=%23nyg) of <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a>*in an attempt to work out a new contract.



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New England Patriots Patrick Chung and Kyle Arrington
tackle <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> running back <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a> during the second quarter at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. UPI/Kevin Dietsch</div>
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Jacobs is due a $500,000 roster bonus in March and has a base salary of over
$4 million this coming season.</p>
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<span style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; LINE-HEIGHT: 20px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(68,78,92); FONT-SIZE: 14px">The
Giants and representatives for <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a> spoke in Indianapolis during the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) Scouting Combine but did not come to an immediate
resolution about the running back's future, according to someone informed of the
discussions between the sides.</span></p></blockquote>


With the 6th highest projected cap number, the Giants are trying to free up
some space to allow themselves to sign some free agents and give out new
contracts to current members of the team (such as <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Victor Cruz" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/victor-cruz/" rel="tag nofollow">Victor
Cruz</a>).</p>


Though Jacobs saw a dip in production this past season, he is clearly a
veteran leader that the Giants like and he is still very effective down at the
goal line (perfect evidence is his franchise leading 56 touchdowns) and in pass
protection. He is only 1 year removed from a season where he averaged over 5
yard per carry. Contrary to popular belief, the 29 year old still has something
left in the tank.</p>


Jacobs has continually expressed his desire to retire as a Giant and get a
deal done, so expect that to happen in the coming weeks."
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Good read. I still think Jacobs is an effective running back. He does have the tendency to run east to west on occassion, but I think the O-line haven't been as effective prior to the Plax incident. Hopefully with a good o-line next year our run game can be similiar to the BJ and Ward combo. The think I like about Jacobs the most is his pass blocking. When Jacobs is in the back field, Manning rarely gets touched.

Eli TO Shockey
02-27-2012, 02:33 PM
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thank you. Love the torn pant leg calf flex. Hopefully he makes that part of his uniform next season. What a TD celebration that would be. lmao

RoanokeFan
02-27-2012, 02:35 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.</p>


Jacobs has 20 less carries than AB in 2011 so who is the backup here?? Both RBs cant bare the load of a fulltime back. They need a Ware or a Scott to help out. </p>


Jacobs will have to get a new cap friendly contract in order to stay. I say they get it done. </p>

It seems they all want it to work out so I think you're right, Buckaroo

TrueBlue@NYC
02-27-2012, 02:46 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.</P>


Jacobs has 20 less carries than AB in 2011 so who is the backup here?? Both RBs cant bare the load of a fulltime back. They need a Ware or a Scott to help out. </P>


Jacobs will have to get a new cap friendly contract in order to stay. I say they get it done. </P>


</P>


He may have had only 20 less carries, but he's still not the starter. And, if the two of them are "sharing" the starting role then they should each share whatever JR deems is the appropriate allocation for the teams' starting RB. </P>


Like I said, it's hard to justify paying these guys big bucks when you see how few RBs' actually make live up to their contracts and how many RBs' come out of nowhere to put up very similar numbers. </P>

TrueBlue@NYC
02-27-2012, 02:47 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.</P>


Jacobs has 20 less carries than AB in 2011 so who is the backup here?? Both RBs cant bare the load of a fulltime back. They need a Ware or a Scott to help out. </P>


Jacobs will have to get a new cap friendly contract in order to stay. I say they get it done. </P>




It seems they all want it to work out so I think you're right, Buckaroo
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That's one positive about it, that both sides seem willing to make it work. </P>

GameTime
02-27-2012, 03:11 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.</P>


Jacobs has 20 less carries than AB in 2011 so who is the backup here?? Both RBs cant bare the load of a fulltime back. They need a Ware or a Scott to help out. </P>


Jacobs will have to get a new cap friendly contract in order to stay. I say they get it done. </P>




It seems they all want it to work out so I think you're right, Buckaroo
</P>


That's one positive about it, that both sides seem willing to make it work. </P>


</P>


hope Scott emerges as something positive this coming season. Would be nice to have a young back with no health issues going in. Ware will be the odd man out guess if they can keep both AB and Jacobs.</P>

LT_was_good
02-27-2012, 03:16 PM
If you pull up Jacobs' career stats, he had just over 1,000 career carries. For comparison's sake, Adrian Peterson has about 1,400. Jacobs has trouble staying healthy, but he hasn't taken as many hits as some younger backs (unfortunately a lot of his hits have been to the legs/ankles/knees). To me, he hasn't lost much speed, and is still very dangerous when he gets rolling downhill.

nygsb42champs
02-27-2012, 03:17 PM
That is nice to see. I love the attitude that Jacobs brings to the field when his head is on right.

ryan12
02-27-2012, 04:31 PM
Jacobs has more left than Bradshaw, I hope he returns. He can still play and is a fantastic leader.

fantastic leader? are you effing kidding????

gmen0820
02-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Jacobs has more left than Bradshaw, I hope he returns. He can still play and is a fantastic leader.

fantastic leader? are you effing kidding????Wait that's what got you? I'm still baffled that he has more than Bradshaw.

Blue daddy
02-27-2012, 04:40 PM
I always liked Jacobs and his fire. We need more guys like him this is football not soccer. If he had a line like he did in 07 we would be doing everything in our power to keep him. He's got alot to offer did you see him stone that def player on pass blocking so called chip? I keep him just for that he's a beast hope we can keep him.

Flip Empty
02-27-2012, 04:49 PM
Jacobs has more left than Bradshaw, I hope he returns. He can still play and is a fantastic leader.

fantastic leader? are you effing kidding????Wait that's what got you? I'm still baffled that he has more than Bradshaw.
Come on, how many times has Bradshaw been injured? His knees are getting worn down with every snap. You can pencil him in for an injury every season.
Eh, maybe not fantastic, but Jacobs loves the team, that much is clear. You don't think his emotion provides a boost for the other players?
Of late, he's been good. He seems to have progressed from assaulting fans with his headgear.

BlueBlitzer
02-27-2012, 04:54 PM
Both AB and BJ give the Giants everything you could ask for. They take less money, they do not gripe about # of carries, do not blame other team mates for failures, when one is down and we absolutely need the other to step up, they do.

Voldamort
02-27-2012, 04:58 PM
good for Brandon,he needs to be ready for next year and hit that hole no dancing in the hole just hit it and go!

miked1958
02-27-2012, 11:06 PM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.

He's already said he's willing to re-structure again.

He deserves to be here.

miked1958
02-27-2012, 11:09 PM
With that said. I think Eli should redo his contract and take less money in order to make room to sign some of the free agents. If u want to win championships u need to make certain sacrifices. If u just want to earn millions the. Let all you're key players walk away and then rebuild which will take another 3 yrs off Shelf life in the nfl.

alau53
02-27-2012, 11:23 PM
jacobs is a smart guy..if he's cut he wont get a big contract..so he's happy as a backup to his best friend bradshaw..and he is an excellent blocker..maybe he can play some te..be similAR TO AARON HERNANDEZ..and he can make more money on the outside as a 2 x sb winner..he also gives the gmen some personality..yes, im a fan

TuckYou
02-28-2012, 09:44 AM
Just heard Giants and Jacobs far off in contract talks. Giants want Jacobs to basically half his salary. Jacobs aint having it.

GameTime
02-28-2012, 09:56 AM
With that said. I think Eli should redo his contract and take less money in order to make room to sign some of the free agents. If u want to win championships u need to make certain sacrifices. If u just want to earn millions the. Let all you're key players walk away and then rebuild which will take another 3 yrs off Shelf life in the nfl.</P>


would dig seeing Eli do this. Not that he needs it but that woould make a statement and maybe a few others who could restructure would go ahead and do it as well.</P>

lttaylor56
02-28-2012, 10:26 AM
With that said. I think Eli should redo his contract and take less money in order to make room to sign some of the free agents. If u want to win championships u need to make certain sacrifices. If u just want to earn millions the. Let all you're key players walk away and then rebuild which will take another 3 yrs off Shelf life in the nfl.</P>


would dig seeing Eli do this. Not that he needs it but that woould make a statement and maybe a few others who could restructure would go ahead and do it as well.</P>BJ has always been a team guy. This will not be the first time he restructured his contract.

Not including signing bonuses/incentives Eli has made/is scheduled to make- the following salary on his 2007 contract:
2009 7.5 mil
2010 6.5
2011 8.5
2012 10.750
2013 13
2014 15.150
2015 17.0

At first I thought why should eli have to restructure his salary to help the team that he is basically the main reason for the teams success. Eli has the ability to take young unrefined receivers and make them great. He does so with subtle, but great leadership qualities. After seeing what Eli has made thus far in his career, I agree that he should re-structure for the good of the team. To be able to retain the core offensive weapons and not lose and efficiency would be worth it's weight in gold. Eli's got maybe 8 years left in his career....the clock is ticking. Let's get some more championships NOW.

heavyhitter
02-28-2012, 10:52 AM
<table><tbody><tr valign="top"><td colspan="3" class="headline" valign="top"><h2 style="font-size:14px;">Brandon Jacobs: Jacobs will only be back on 'greatly' reduced</h2>
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<b class="rblock_title">Brandon Jacobs (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;id=3146) - RB - NYG (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/content/clubhouse_news.aspx?sport=NFL&amp;majteam=NYG) - Feb. 28 - 9:33 am et[/b]
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<tr><td colspan="3" valign="top"><p class="lblock_text">The New York Daily News reports the Giants only want Brandon Jacobs back for 2012 at a "greatly" reduced salary.
<font color="blue">The
two sides did not "come close to any kind of agreement" during their
meeting at the Scouting Combine. Jacobs has repeatedly made it known
he's willing to take a pay-cut to remain in New York, but it sounds like
the Giants could be pushing to whittle his scheduled $4.9 salary down
to near the veteran's minimum. He might opt for his release if that's
the case.</font><span class="f_11"> Feb. 28 - 9:33 am et</span>
</p><p class="lblock_text">Source: New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-giants-running-back-brandon-jacobs-facing-steep-pay-cut-remain-big-blue-article-1.1029627)</p></td></tr></tbody></table>

thomsoad
02-28-2012, 11:20 AM
They'll need to make drastic changes to his contract to make it worth keeping him. I like having him as a player, but you simply can't pay him start money to be a backup. Especially at a position thats proving more and more to be a plug and play position.

He's already said he's willing to re-structure again.

He deserves to be here.

The only players that deserve to be here are the ones that can produce in the highest level. I for one am on the side of letting BJ go unless he is willing to go down a lot. BJ runs too high and goes down too easy (becuz he runs too high) and is usually tepid at the line. He is a good blocker tho ... and thats the only reason I see in keeping him.

Between the two Id rather see Hynoski in there pounding the rock. Runs harder then BJ from what I have seen in limited action. Just as heavy (265) and 4 inches shorter. Gets in low and pounds that rock. BJ last year was under 50% in short line situations... that sux for a supposed "power back". Blame the Oline all you want (wont dispute it) but its not like he was really that good last year either.