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RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 11:39 AM
GIANTS LIKELY TO KEEP TERRELL THOMAS OVER AARON ROSS (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/28/new-york-giants-likely-to-keep-terrell-thomas-over-aaron-ross/)

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Ralph Vacchiano of the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Daily News reports (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/02/jacobs-needs-to-take-big-cut-to-return)
that Jerry Reese &amp; Co. are likely to re-sign only one of the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Terrell Thomas" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/terrell-thomas/" rel="tag nofollow">Terrell
Thomas</a> and <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Aaron Ross" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/aaron-ross/" rel="tag nofollow">Aaron
Ross</a> duo, and it’s probably not the latter.</p>
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“The Giants are not likely to re-sign both CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Terrell Thomas" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/terrell-thomas/" rel="tag nofollow">Terrell
Thomas</a> and CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Aaron Ross" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/aaron-ross/" rel="tag nofollow">Aaron
Ross</a>, and it appears that Thomas is their preferred choice,” Vacchiano
wrote.</p></blockquote>


Although the team has spoken with the representatives of both players, they
have always preferred Thomas, who was a starter prior to tearing his ACL a year
ago, to Ross. They've made it very clear they want him back, and it seems
inevitable that a deal eventually gets done.</p>


Thomas recently tweeted that he's at least three weeks ahead of schedule,
which coincides with what his agent, Doug Hendrickson, has said.</p>


In addition to the aforementioned tweets, Thomas has also shared a few videos
of his rehab including one of him jogging (http://www.tout.com/m/cf42ok) and another of him <a href="http://www.tout.com/m/8h8bbg" target="_blank">working on lateral
movements</a>."</p>

TuckYou
02-28-2012, 11:46 AM
IMO, it would be a huge plus to get one of these guys back, as I really dont expect it. I am hoping for a cheap one year TT deal to prove his value and that he is 100% back from his injury.

RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 11:57 AM
IMO, it would be a huge plus to get one of these guys back, as I really dont expect it. I am hoping for a cheap one year TT deal to prove his value and that he is 100% back from his injury.

You don't expect them to keep either? I think TT will get signed. The one thing we have going in our favor for guys like TT, Hixon, and Ballard is the possibility of a "repeat." Manningham is right when he says the odds are against it, but the odds have been against the GIANTS a lot yet somehow, we seem to make things happen. The players are very much aware of that.

TuckYou
02-28-2012, 12:03 PM
IMO, it would be a huge plus to get one of these guys back, as I really dont expect it. I am hoping for a cheap one year TT deal to prove his value and that he is 100% back from his injury.

You don't expect them to keep either? I think TT will get signed. The one thing we have going in our favor for guys like TT, Hixon, and Ballard is the possibility of a "repeat." Manningham is right when he says the odds are against it, but the odds have been against the GIANTS a lot yet somehow, we seem to make things happen. The players are very much aware of that.
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Not really. If you factor all of the things against us like already being over the cap, just winning the Superbowl boosts the value of each of these players (especially Ross, just like it did Gibril in 2008), and the fact we will not give TT what he is expecting even coming off the injury, kinda like Steve Smith. So to put it simple, our finances could keep us from getting either, and it might not be the wrong move. </P>


After SB wins, teams get stripped. Other teams will over pay a Manningham or a Ross. TT has a better shot but I still feel like a team would take a shot on him and pay more then us. </P>

GGTM_1977
02-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 12:14 PM
IMO, it would be a huge plus to get one of these guys back, as I really dont expect it. I am hoping for a cheap one year TT deal to prove his value and that he is 100% back from his injury.

You don't expect them to keep either? I think TT will get signed. The one thing we have going in our favor for guys like TT, Hixon, and Ballard is the possibility of a "repeat." Manningham is right when he says the odds are against it, but the odds have been against the GIANTS a lot yet somehow, we seem to make things happen. The players are very much aware of that.
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Not really. If you factor all of the things against us like already being over the cap, just winning the Superbowl boosts the value of each of these players (especially Ross, just like it did Gibril in 2008), and the fact we will not give TT what he is expecting even coming off the injury, kinda like Steve Smith. So to put it simple, our finances could keep us from getting either, and it might not be the wrong move. </p>


After SB wins, teams get stripped. Other teams will over pay a Manningham or a Ross. TT has a better shot but I still feel like a team would take a shot on him and pay more then us. </p>

I'm the first to bring up the CAP and it's problems, but Reese is gong to do whatever it takes to keep the players we need to make a repeat run. I'll be happy if we sign TT and Hixon and they will be "relatively cheap" because they have to prove they still have it.

We have to believe the first thing Reese does with guys on IR is ask the docs if they can stand up in games. Idf their opinion is yes, he goes after them. Not with the mindset that we HAVE to have this one or that one, but with a decent offer based on what they know.

RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 12:15 PM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

Why sorry? That's a valid position to take.

NWKEffectElement
02-28-2012, 12:20 PM
I wish we could get both back.

NWKEffectElement
02-28-2012, 12:22 PM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

I understand why you feel that way, but Ross may be too expensive at this point.

RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 12:23 PM
I wish we could get both back.

That's possible too. we just have to wait and see who's willing to play ball (groan at pun) [W]

nhpgiantsfan
02-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

Totally agree. Would be great to keep Ross. Oh well, I hope the Prince is ready, because I don't see T2 being a big factor this year.

nygsb42champs
02-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Not a major surprise that they want T2 over Ross. They probably can get him cheaper coming off of his surgery plus he was really coming into his own before the injury.

GameTime
02-28-2012, 01:46 PM
Not a major surprise that they want T2 over Ross. They probably can get him cheaper coming off of his surgery plus he was really coming into his own before the injury.</P>


I still think TT is huge risk with the injury factor. Not only physically but how will it effect him mentally.</P>


Will he be 100%?? Whya is"cheaper" and posibbly less effect TT a better dealvs what they know they have in Ross...</P>


TT being the same player he was pre injury is a risk in itself. 2x ACL is not a good thing. Contrary to what some may think a repaired ACL, especially 2x, is not as good or as durable as a healthy never injured ACL....</P>

GGTM_1977
02-28-2012, 01:51 PM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

I understand why you feel that way, but Ross may be too expensive at this point.

True but why even waste a small 1 yr contrat on T2, when he might not even be that efffective this yr.......we may end up not re-signing either guys if thats the case.

Gmen2005
02-28-2012, 05:07 PM
I'm really not a fan of Aaron Ross. I'd much rather have TT

RoanokeFan
02-28-2012, 05:23 PM
Not a major surprise that they want T2 over Ross. They probably can get him cheaper coming off of his surgery plus he was really coming into his own before the injury.</p>


I still think TT is huge risk with the injury factor. Not only physically but how will it effect him mentally.</p>


Will he be 100%?? Whya is"cheaper" and posibbly less effect TT a better dealvs what they know they have in Ross...</p>


TT being the same player he was pre injury is a risk in itself. 2x ACL is not a good thing. Contrary to what some may think a repaired ACL, especially 2x, is not as good or as durable as a healthy never injured ACL....</p>

Very true. It's part of what makes me wonder why some want Steve Smith back as though he is somehow as good as he was two injuries ago.

Pa1jintfan
02-28-2012, 08:29 PM
I am a huge Ross fan, I know he takes heat here, but come on guys. Guy played his ***** off this year, and looked great his rook year. 2 years as starter. 2 rings.. Doesn't that say enough. I like TT. But he takes a lot of chances and pays dearly to often. I see way more upside in our former 1st round pick. I know he will be a cap casuality, but really wish we could keep him.

greenca190
02-28-2012, 09:18 PM
As frustrated as Aaron Ross has made me over the years, he shows up in big games. He's a player and I would love to have him back on this team.

This shouldn't be an issue of who we sign. This should be an issue of how we sign both of them.

JJC7301
02-28-2012, 09:18 PM
I'd only do it if Ross would be too much to retain, and he probably would be. I'm fine with TT coming back at an inexpensive price, with Web and Prince probably starting.

appodictic
02-28-2012, 11:15 PM
I hate to say this but TT and Hixon are not a priority. After 2 ACLs no one is going to sign Hixon we can keep him on the practice squad.

It sometimes takes player a year to come back from an ACL. Remember that off year Osi had.Many people wanted him gone. TT never even played that great before the ACL. Dez Bryant owned him in two meetings.

jhamburg
02-28-2012, 11:49 PM
I hate to say this but TT and Hixon are not a priority. After 2 ACLs no one is going to sign Hixon we can keep him on the practice squad.

It sometimes takes player a year to come back from an ACL. Remember that off year Osi had.Many people wanted him gone. TT never even played that great before the ACL. Dez Bryant* owned him in two meetings.


Hixon isn't eligible for PS

Coach Carter
02-29-2012, 10:54 AM
Sorry i would rather re-sign Ross. T2 reinjury of the same ACL not good.......he would need just this season alone to get back up to speed. Ross did well last year, and wants to retire here, lets see what the guy asks for....

EXACTLY.

FlyingTruck
02-29-2012, 11:06 AM
I'd rather keep Ross. T2 is not so great at playing zone, which is what we use most of the time. Plus he is injury prone obviously.

Vtgmenfan89
02-29-2012, 11:06 AM
As long as TT is almost never lined up on the outside and is the nickel corner in 'Rolle's role' from this past season as safety/corner. After two ACL tears he should not be covering nfl receivers on the outside, he wasn't that great at it before either. Solid tackler however and he did force turnovers, hence why he should be closer to the ball. Good blitzer too, just another reason. Plus I think Prince wins starting job in offseason

since55
02-29-2012, 04:05 PM
Let's not forget about our 5'9" fidget.


The other thing I appreciated and I take my hat off to him is I was standing close by as the doctors were showing him and talking to him about his injury, he didn’t want to hear about it. He said, ‘When can I play? Can I play again? Just put a cast on it and I’ll play.’ That was something to hear a young man talk like that, how badly he wanted to play.”

Tryon admitted the pain was significant. “I played through it, but when I made the last tackle on Reggie, I felt something else happen to it and I’m like, ‘Man, what is this?’ ” Tryon said. “I was praying to hold onto his leg because my arm was killing me.”

Coughlin’s secondary has struggled with injuries. “On the final punt, I was nervous about it because of the guy they had back there catching it [Bush] and because they pressured it so we’d have to kick it inbounds,” he said. “When [Bush] caught the ball, Justin arrived on the spot, wrapped him up and held on for dear life until he got some help. It ended up being a minus-four return and a 59-yard net.”

By Cindy Boren | 04:27 PM ET, 10/31/2011



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appodictic
02-29-2012, 10:42 PM
Ross can return punts too. So I would rather have one ross that can catch and return punts and play D. rather then a hixon and a tt that cant actually do either.

Rich4114
02-29-2012, 11:26 PM
I think they'll resign TT on the cheap given his injury situation. Ross isn't even that good so if some team wants to over pay him then have at it.

Prince is the future starting CB and we'll need to bring one more quality guy in for depth.

GMenNY21
03-01-2012, 12:14 AM
I think its possible we let both T2 & Ross walk..

We trade out of the last 1st , get an early 2nd rounder, & draft one of these young promising corners coming out like Stephen Gilmore, Jamel Flemming or Trumaine Johnson , then with the later 2nd round pick, get Orson Charles

I think we should go this route barring someone like Mercilus or Poe falls to us.. I think by doing this we avoid the financial risk of overpaying for Ross or T2 , & find Webster's replacement once his contract is up..

DIPSET_ALL_DAY
03-01-2012, 07:25 AM
do they even know if terrell thomas lost a step? aaron ross had the best season last year, but he is getting old.