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myles2424
03-01-2012, 04:46 PM
Everyone has different opinions on our Lbs.....IMO I think kiwi needs to stay at DE & we need a upgrade in the middle...
But regardless nobody can argue that we don't need more competition at LB......sintim likely gone,and between jones,herzlich,pay singer,Blackburn at least one will be gone......

Any thoughts on Bradham? Seems like one of the few guys with the size/speed/coverage/run/4-3 combos....

slipknottin
03-01-2012, 04:49 PM
Why does Kiwi need to move to DE? Theres kind of a jam there considering he has three all-pro DEs in front of him.

If you want Kiwi on the field, it has to be at LB.

Sintim wont get cut either, hes inexpensive.

myles2424
03-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Why does Kiwi need to move to DE? Theres kind of a jam there considering he has three all-pro DEs in front of him.

If you want Kiwi on the field, it has to be at LB.

Sintim wont get cut either, hes inexpensive.
Not a kiwi hater,but I prefer him at DE. But I do agree he needs to be on the field somehow.....
And sintim hasn't done a thing to be deserving of a roster spot,easily upgradable....

slipknottin
03-01-2012, 04:57 PM
Not a kiwi hater,but I prefer him at DE. But I do agree he needs to be on the field somehow.....
And sintim hasn't done a thing to be deserving of a roster spot,easily upgradable....

You like him at DE where he wont play?

Or are you saying you just dont like him at LB? Even though he was a better LB than pass rusher last season?

I dont see why Kiwi has to have a defined position. Let him play LB, let him play some DE, let him play DT. Why force him to only be the #4 DE on the team?

Its not an easy upgrade for Sintim considering the money involved. Sintim is only getting like 500k, the vet minimum is 300k something. So for 200k you think you can find an upgrade? Its doubtful.

BlueSanta
03-01-2012, 05:17 PM
Still I think there is a very valid point that even if we have Kiwi this year he is a FA after. We do lack depth at that position. Unlike many here I do not think LB is a HUGE priority need position. But, if we need 1 it is a guy to develop behind Kiwi.

Bradham is a guy who is athletic enough to play at different Lb positions as well.

I think there is value for him in the 3rd-4th round for sure. I would not select him before then.

Breezely
03-01-2012, 08:39 PM
I would like to hear what Kiwi says. I like having Kiwi on the field and he is not a liability at linebacker.

Voldamort
03-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Why does Kiwi need to move to DE? Theres kind of a jam there considering he has three all-pro DEs in front of him.

If you want Kiwi on the field, it has to be at LB.

Sintim wont get cut either, hes inexpensive. if they trade OSI? KIWI would go back D-line!! from Harry,Van-Pelt,Kelly,LT,Banks,Pepper,Reasons,Headen,Hunt,Huf f,FilesBarrow,Armstead,WTF happen to this team linebackers????

Breezely
03-01-2012, 09:36 PM
Why does Kiwi need to move to DE? Theres kind of a jam there considering he has three all-pro DEs in front of him.

If you want Kiwi on the field, it has to be at LB.

Sintim wont get cut either, hes inexpensive. if they trade OSI? KIWI would go back D-line!! from Harry,Van-Pelt,Kelly,LT,Banks,Pepper,Reasons,Headen,Hunt,Huf f,FilesBarrow,Armstead,WTF happen to this team linebackers????

I am not so sure of that. I believe Kiwi will remain at linebacker. Linebacker is starting to look crowded also.

myles2424
03-01-2012, 11:15 PM
Not a kiwi hater,but I prefer him at DE. But I do agree he needs to be on the field somehow.....
And sintim hasn't done a thing to be deserving of a roster spot,easily upgradable....

You like him at DE where he wont play?

Or are you saying you just dont like him at LB? Even though he was a better LB than pass rusher last season?

I dont see why Kiwi has to have a defined position. Let him play LB, let him play some DE, let him play DT. Why force him to only be the #4 DE on the team?

Its not an easy upgrade for Sintim considering the money involved. Sintim is only getting like 500k, the vet minimum is 300k something. So for 200k you think you can find an upgrade? Its doubtful. kiwi is a great player regardless.....my thing is it seems like he doesn't have a exact home.....is he a DE? Is he a LB? Like you said, he doesn't really have much of a spot at DE...and then again he's not a every down LB......
And as far as sintim goes, ofcourse when it comes down to money you can't pick up a vet to be a upgrade for the $$$$.....but do you not think a decent draft pick would easily upgrade sintim? Or is sintim as good as it gets for SLB depth? If something happend to Kiwi or when he becomes a FA again, would you be comfortable with Sintim starting? I hope not

Dirt66
03-11-2012, 08:06 PM
Have always been a fan of this kid.....would love to see him on Big Blue!!!

Captain Chaos
03-12-2012, 07:56 AM
Personally, I would rather see us take Bruce Irvin from West Virginia, Think he could come in behind Kiwi if you needed to line him on as an DE. Like his ability in coverage and his size.

Redeyejedi
03-12-2012, 08:01 AM
Why with Kiwi does it have to be one or the other. The NFL is not cut in dry like that. I dont see why he just cant be moved around to get snaps.He plays the run well at LB.Williams and Boley were good as the Nickel LB's I dont see a problem. Dont know why he is always being forced back to DE were he will play limited snaps

Bradham is a nice player physically one of the hardest hitters in CFB but he isnt instinctive . Should be a nightmare on special teams though

Kruunch
03-12-2012, 08:26 AM
Everyone has different opinions on our Lbs.....IMO I think kiwi needs to stay at DE & we need a upgrade in the middle...
But regardless nobody can argue that we don't need more competition at LB......sintim likely gone,and between jones,herzlich,pay singer,Blackburn at least one will be gone......

Any thoughts on Bradham? Seems like one of the few guys with the size/speed/coverage/run/4-3 combos....

We have a bajillion LBers and depth at each of the LBer positions.

I don't see this as being an area of need and I think the Giants don't even draft a LBer this year.

Re Kiwi: I think Kiwi will be used much like he was last year ... swapping between DE and SAM ... whatever keeps him on the field the most.

I would like to see us have a more mobile MLB but since MLB is a two down backer these days I'm ok with Goff,

heavyhitter
03-12-2012, 08:53 PM
Not a kiwi hater,but I prefer him at DE. But I do agree he needs to be on the field somehow.....
And sintim hasn't done a thing to be deserving of a roster spot,easily upgradable....

Its not an easy upgrade for Sintim considering the money involved. Sintim is only getting like 500k, the vet minimum is 300k something. So for 200k you think you can find an upgrade? Its doubtful.Pretty sure Sintim is making a little bit more than that. NEway, for a 2nd RD draft pick and highly productive guy coming out of college, he's been a disappointment to this point. This guy lead the nation in sacks as an OLB in Virginia's 34 defense & was said to be the next best thing as a rush linebacker going into the draft.

Raptor22
03-12-2012, 09:35 PM
Personally, I feel Kiwi's best role is as the 'Joker' or 'Rover' who can play up and down the line or stand up. He's got great versatility and athleticism... let him use it.

With Sintim, I hope he can come back, because I really liked how he was playing in preseason. He was dropping with fluidity and when he tore his ACL, he was right in a WR's hip pocket. He was also playing with power going forwards... It looked to me like the start of a breakout season.

Unfortunately, I have to wonder if he'll ever be on the field again as a player. IIRC, he tore the same ACL twice in the same year. That's got to be double tough to come back from. Maybe if he gets PUP'd he can contribute later on, down the stretch.

As for LB's in the draft, Bradham could be a good choice. Likewise Mychael Kendricks really opened some eyes and made himself some money at the combine. Also, I'm really high on Audie Cole. He's built just like a Giants draft choice, is a good player, and can play inside or out.

jomo
03-12-2012, 09:53 PM
Why does Kiwi need to move to DE? Theres kind of a jam there considering he has three all-pro DEs in front of him. If you want Kiwi on the field, it has to be at LB. Sintim wont get cut either, hes inexpensive.Slip, you are better than Sintim! lolWhat does cheap have to do with anything?Groucho Marx used to say, if you pay peanuts, you get elephants. We need upgrades at LB.