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nycsportzfan
03-08-2012, 08:15 AM
Every yr theres guys that remind me of Reese/Giant type players or prospects, and more often then not, one or 2 or more of those guys end up garnering interest leading up to the draft and sometimes get picked by them as well.. Adrien Tracy and Linval Joseph are a couple that come to mind off the top of my head... Anyhow, here are a few players that remind me of Reese guys or Giants type guys in general...</P>


Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St- This guy totally reminds me of a GIANT type prospect, especially if he somehow fell to the last pick of RD 2(he won't), and i woulden't even be shocked if the GIANTS were really interested with last pick of RD 1.. Of course really being interested in a player isn't all it takes, as the GUYS gotta be on the board at the right time and what not, and we also gotta have not addressed the positon all ready in FA'cy or earlier in the draft..</P>


Audie Cole LB Nc State- A guy who i think Reese will like, for his on field savy and awareness, and possibly value, depending on how far down Cole goes, i could see reese coveting the big bruising LB from NC STATE.. Just has a GIANT feel to him..</P>


Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin- Zeitler reminds me alot of a Seubert/Diehl /O'hara type "hard nosed" , wheres his "hard hat" to work everyday olineman, who would fit well as the kinda lineman we've seen to covet in recent yrs.. I easily could see Zeitler as a Reese guy, possibly in RD 2... I at least can see us showing interest leading up to the draft..</P>


Robert Turbin RB Utah St- Just has a feel of a guy Reese would covet, especially with the nice 40time at the combine, which just adds intrigue to his entire package, as a well built bruiser, who has the size to where down a defense, and u add in the speed to also go the distance, and i could see Reese really intrigued...</P>


Stephon Gilmore CB S.Carolina- Fits the Giant CB mold to a Tee.. Good size, solid speed, and plays the run well... I bet u Reese is all ready drewling over this guy...</P>

shocknaweny
03-08-2012, 09:26 AM
What about the DE out of Illinois....Winston Mercelius ???

TheEnigma
03-08-2012, 09:34 AM
Donnie Fletcher CB/S Boston College - Has the height (6'1) and weight (195?) that the Giants covet from a defensive back and shows eagerness in the running game. Could be an excellent 5th to 7th round pick for the Giants.

Malik Jackson DE Tennessee - Shows versatility in playing along the D-line and could be a possible successor to Tuck in the future.

Some random kid from USF that we don't know - You know scouts are going to go down there after JPP and Jwill lol.

heavyhitter
03-08-2012, 10:24 AM
1) Lavonte David (LB) Nebraska
2) Travis Lewis (LB) Oklahoma
3) Rueben Randle (WR) LSU
4) Donnie Fletcher (CB) Boston College
5) David Wilson (RB) Virginia Tech
6) Dwayne Allen (TE) Clemson
7) Bobby Massie (OT) Ole Miss
8) Harrison Smith (S) Notre Dame
9) Coby Fleener (TE) Stanford
10) Trumaine Johnson (CB) Montana
11) Doug Martin (RB) Boise St.
12) Nigel Bradham (LB) Florida State
13) Stephon Gilmore (CB) South Carolina
14) Mark Barron (S) Alabama
15) Keenan Robinson (LB) Texas
16) Isaiah Pead (RB) Cincy
17) Mike Harris (CB) Florida State
18) Tommy Streeter (WR) Miami
19) Casey Hayward (CB) Vanderbilt
20) Josh Robinson (CB) UCF

nycsportzfan
03-08-2012, 06:32 PM
Welp, Marc Ross was at Clemson's proday, where Brandon Thompson did well.. Thompson is a guy i worry the Giants will like.. I think Thompson is a bum to be honest, and have him as one of my bigger busts of the draft.. Hopefully Ross was checking out Dwayne Allen and Andre Branch more so then Thompson, but Thompson fits the type of player i expect Reese and Co to like..</P>


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<FONT color=#3b5998>Brandon Thompson </FONT> (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1675640/brandon-thompson)arrived at Clemson with potential. But not much strength.</P>


As a true freshman, Thompson was asked to perform a strength test -- pushing up 225 pounds on the bench press. He completed 13, with some degree of strain to get there.

"His development strength-wise is incredible," said coach Dabo Swinney.

Thompson, a standout defensive tackle in the ACC, is considered a fringe first-round pick as he leaves Clemson four years later. In his most recent strength test at the Scouting Combine, he did 35 reps. He also had a 9-feet, 7-inch broad jump at 6-2, 315 pounds on Thursday before he posted an unofficial time of 5.0 and 5.12 in the 40-yard dash.

"He's a great football player, a great individual," Swinney said. "As a player -- you can't move him. He loves to practice. He does it the right way. He's going to have a great NFL career."

Clemson has had 25 players make NFL rosters since Swinney arrived. Defensive end Andre Branch and Thompson could be first-round picks in 2012.

Swinney said several teams have asked him about Branch's ability to play the traditional defensive end spot and if he could cover as an outside linebacker in 3-4 and 4-3 defenses.

Of the teams represented at Clemson's Thursday <FONT color=#3b5998>Pro Day</FONT> (http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/34809158), the New York Jets sent head coach Rex Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum.

At least 29 NFL teams were accounted for, according to Clemson.

Marc Ross, the New York Giants' director of college scouting, was also in attendance.

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nycsportzfan
03-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Donnie Fletcher CB/S Boston College - Has the height (6'1) and weight (195?) that the Giants covet from a defensive back and shows eagerness in the running game. Could be an excellent 5th to 7th round pick for the Giants. Malik Jackson DE Tennessee - Shows versatility in playing along the D-line and could be a possible successor to Tuck in the future. Some random kid from USF that we don't know - You know scouts are going to go down there after JPP and Jwill lol. Ya, i could see Reese showing interest in Donnie Fletcher as well, especially if he ends up being a great value in the RD 4-5 range...

Neverend
03-08-2012, 08:01 PM
yeah i can see the giants liking thompson. they apparently really liked jarvis jenkins last year who is pretty similar as a prospect and according mike mayock scouts felt like thompson was better than jenkins in 2010

myles2424
03-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Robert turbin please....

gmen0820
03-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Andre Branch

spags4prez
03-08-2012, 10:37 PM
Robert turbin please....

I like Turbin too...maybe in the 4th. Is his injury history (I think he had an ACL 2 years ago) a concern?

rainierjef
03-09-2012, 12:50 AM
stephen hill if he falls to late 1st past pats

BlueSanta
03-09-2012, 02:39 AM
Considering we like size/speed/production, I think these are some players we would look at in various rounds:

At CB: Stephen Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Big, skilled and fast.

At LB: Tank Carder and Nigel Bradham. Both of these guys are underrated, productive and athletic.


At Safety: Ugh this is tough, I hate this safety class. Mark Baron and Markelle Martin are all there is to really like. George IIoka is and ok mid/late prospect to take a chance on because he is big enough to work against a TE, which is the new flavor in the NFL.


DT: So many options here. It is a strong class. Early, I like Worthy, Still and Cox, I just dont see them making it to 32. I think there is an outside chance Brockers will fall because of his disapointing combine and if he does, I think he we would be lucky to have him. I think Brandon Thompson is also a guy in the 2nd+ round we might consider because of good athleticism on top of high character/academics. Mike Martin is interesting because before the senior bowl he was considered a nose tackle only prospect, but having done so well all week in 1v1 drills and scrimmage, he is a guy that has to be on some 4-3 team's radar. I love his nasty.

DE: Chandler Jones. I really like Jones because he plays LDE and Tuck's injuries have mounted lately. When Tuck goes down we suffer a great deal because we dont have anyone else who is natural on that side. JPP was less productive there, Canty filled in some but wasnt a passrush threat from there. Tolly did well in passrush but suffered vs the run. Jones is a perfect fit for us and fits our mold of size/speed on defense to a tee. He could come in and spell Tuck in the rotation and help him avoid injury, and he could 1 day take over the position completely.

RB: I am floored by this RB class. As good as people say it is, it might still be underrated.Take your pick. Personally, I like Wilson, Martin,Pierce and Ballard more than where they are rated and I think all would fit nicely. Polk has worked himself back into my good graces too after showing up to the senior bowl out of shape he has lost 12 lbs and shown himself much better since.

TE: Fleener, Allen and Egnew are the 3 most obvious. Fleener and Allen for their respective skills, Egnew for is potential. I also see us having our eye on Rhett Ellison in the late rounds. Rhett is a versatile player from USC who played end line TE in 2010 and FB in 2011. He is a very good athlete and unselfish player.

OL: My guy all along was Glenn, but he is not gonna make it to us in round 1. In mid rounds I like Tony Bergstrom. He has the versatility to play different positions along the line, something we always covet and I like his fight.

WR: I do not see as much talent in this class as many. The top is nice, but I do not much like the mid/late round. 1 day 3 guy I do like is Greg Childs out of Arkansas. He is better than his numbers from this year indicate. He was coming off an injury.

QB: I could see us peeking at Pattrick Witt late in the draft. But, only a small chance.

nycsportzfan
03-09-2012, 06:51 AM
Considering we like size/speed/production, I think these are some players we would look at in various rounds:

At CB: Stephen Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Big, skilled and fast.

At LB: Tank Carder and Nigel Bradham. Both of these guys are underrated, productive and athletic.


At Safety: Ugh this is tough, I hate this safety class. Mark Baron and Markelle Martin are all there is to really like. George IIoka is and ok mid/late prospect to take a chance on because he is big enough to work against a TE, which is the new flavor in the NFL.


DT: So many options here. It is a strong class. Early, I like Worthy, Still and Cox, I just dont see them making it to 32. I think there is an outside chance Brockers will fall because of his disapointing combine and if he does, I think he we would be lucky to have him. I think Brandon Thompson is also a guy in the 2nd+ round we might consider because of good athleticism on top of high character/academics. Mike Martin is interesting because before the senior bowl he was considered a nose tackle only prospect, but having done so well all week in 1v1 drills and scrimmage, he is a guy that has to be on some 4-3 team's radar. I love his nasty.

DE: Chandler Jones. I really like Jones because he plays LDE and Tuck's injuries have mounted lately. When Tuck goes down we suffer a great deal because we dont have anyone else who is natural on that side. JPP was less productive there, Canty filled in some but wasnt a passrush threat from there. Tolly did well in passrush but suffered vs the run. Jones is a perfect fit for us and fits our mold of size/speed on defense to a tee. He could come in and spell Tuck in the rotation and help him avoid injury, and he could 1 day take over the position completely.

RB: I am floored by this RB class. As good as people say it is, it might still be underrated.Take your pick. Personally, I like Wilson, Martin,Pierce and Ballard more than where they are rated and I think all would fit nicely. Polk has worked himself back into my good graces too after showing up to the senior bowl out of shape he has lost 12 lbs and shown himself much better since.

TE: Fleener, Allen and Egnew are the 3 most obvious. Fleener and Allen for their respective skills, Egnew for is potential. I also see us having our eye on Rhett Ellison in the late rounds. Rhett is a versatile player from USC who played end line TE in 2010 and FB in 2011. He is a very good athlete and unselfish player.

OL: My guy all along was Glenn, but he is not gonna make it to us in round 1. In mid rounds I like Tony Bergstrom. He has the versatility to play different positions along the line, something we always covet and I like his fight.

WR: I do not see as much talent in this class as many. The top is nice, but I do not much like the mid/late round. 1 day 3 guy I do like is Greg Childs out of Arkansas. He is better than his numbers from this year indicate. He was coming off an injury.

QB: I could see us peeking at Pattrick Witt late in the draft. But, only a small chance.










I obviously love alot of your players u mention, but are they all guys u think the GIANTS and or REESE will covet, or a mix of guys U like and guys GIANTS/REESE will covet?</P>


I'm just curious to know what guys u think REESE/GIANTS will go for, based on past drafts, even if there guys u don't like... GIANTS type DRAFT picks if u will...</P>

nycsportzfan
03-09-2012, 06:53 AM
Robert turbin please....As i mentioned, Turbin is certainly a guy i could picture the GIANTS coveting, especially if hes there at end of RD 3/ End of RD 4.... Hes bigger, and has the speed to boot(a bonus), and can catch the ball... I think the giants will really value him as a DUO back with Bradshaw.. I think Bernard Pierce and Vick Ballard are a couple other backs the Giants will covet...

BlueSanta
03-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Considering we like size/speed/production, I think these are some players we would look at in various rounds:

At CB: Stephen Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Big, skilled and fast.

At LB: Tank Carder and Nigel Bradham. Both of these guys are underrated, productive and athletic.


At Safety: Ugh this is tough, I hate this safety class. Mark Baron and Markelle Martin are all there is to really like. George IIoka is and ok mid/late prospect to take a chance on because he is big enough to work against a TE, which is the new flavor in the NFL.


DT: So many options here. It is a strong class. Early, I like Worthy, Still and Cox, I just dont see them making it to 32. I think there is an outside chance Brockers will fall because of his disapointing combine and if he does, I think he we would be lucky to have him. I think Brandon Thompson is also a guy in the 2nd+ round we might consider because of good athleticism on top of high character/academics. Mike Martin is interesting because before the senior bowl he was considered a nose tackle only prospect, but having done so well all week in 1v1 drills and scrimmage, he is a guy that has to be on some 4-3 team's radar. I love his nasty.

DE: Chandler Jones. I really like Jones because he plays LDE and Tuck's injuries have mounted lately. When Tuck goes down we suffer a great deal because we dont have anyone else who is natural on that side. JPP was less productive there, Canty filled in some but wasnt a passrush threat from there. Tolly did well in passrush but suffered vs the run. Jones is a perfect fit for us and fits our mold of size/speed on defense to a tee. He could come in and spell Tuck in the rotation and help him avoid injury, and he could 1 day take over the position completely.

RB: I am floored by this RB class. As good as people say it is, it might still be underrated.Take your pick. Personally, I like Wilson, Martin,Pierce and Ballard more than where they are rated and I think all would fit nicely. Polk has worked himself back into my good graces too after showing up to the senior bowl out of shape he has lost 12 lbs and shown himself much better since.

TE: Fleener, Allen and Egnew are the 3 most obvious. Fleener and Allen for their respective skills, Egnew for is potential. I also see us having our eye on Rhett Ellison in the late rounds. Rhett is a versatile player from USC who played end line TE in 2010 and FB in 2011. He is a very good athlete and unselfish player.

OL: My guy all along was Glenn, but he is not gonna make it to us in round 1. In mid rounds I like Tony Bergstrom. He has the versatility to play different positions along the line, something we always covet and I like his fight.

WR: I do not see as much talent in this class as many. The top is nice, but I do not much like the mid/late round. 1 day 3 guy I do like is Greg Childs out of Arkansas. He is better than his numbers from this year indicate. He was coming off an injury.

QB: I could see us peeking at Pattrick Witt late in the draft. But, only a small chance.










I obviously love alot of your players u mention, but are they all guys u think the GIANTS and or REESE will covet, or a mix of guys U like and guys GIANTS/REESE will covet?</p>


I'm just curious to know what guys u think REESE/GIANTS will go for, based on past drafts, even if there guys u don't like... GIANTS type DRAFT picks if u will...</p>

Obviously, I like them too. But I tried to pick guys that fit Reese's mold too as well as guys that fit a certain need that might be lacking from this team. There are definitely guys I liked i left off because I do not see them fitting in here. For example, I think the strength of the WR class(after round1) is in the slot reciever spot, but we dont need another slot guy. We have Cruz and JJ. We need an outside guy to replace MM.

You have me curious as to who on my list you dont think is a Reese type player. I can give my justifications for each if needed.

I will mention that I struggled to put Trumaine Johnson on my list. He has the size/speed we like but lacks the big school competition Reese also covets.


Ill mention a couple other reasonings for guys I had on my list:

Mike Martin. Many know Michigan used some 3-4 defense this year and Martin served as a nose tackle in that role, eating double teams. I am reminded of Jay Alford (only better) coming out of school and how he also played in some hybrid 3-4 at PSU. Reese commented that he likes guys who spend all year fighting off 2 blockers, because it helps them develope the disposition required to play DT. Mike Martin has that disposition in droves. He is nasty. At the senior bowl he showed that he is very hard to block with just 1 blocker. At the combine he showed the burst.

I know your not a Brandon Thompson fan, but I see some things to like. He is a very smart high character young man(Giants likey those guys) and he has a 1st step that often on film appears faster than Branch's. I also think offenses, especially running offenses spent WAY more time blocking him than they did everyone else on that defense. Lastly, I think Clemson's defensive coordinator should be lobotomized for misusing the talent he has had there in recent years. I do not understand his gameplan for half the teams he plays. Such a waste.

1 Rb I failed to mention as a guy we might like is Davin Megget. He is a guy I could see us liking because a) he is undervalued and a mid/late round. 2) very duable, never missed a game. 3) is a north-south back who can pick up the shot yardage situations we have been unable to in recent years. 4) seems high character. You ever watch a clip of him post game? He is all "it wasnt me, it was my oline" etc. Gotta love that.

Neverend
03-09-2012, 01:47 PM
I know your not a Brandon Thompson fan, but I see some things to like. He is a very smart high character young man(Giants likey those guys) and he has a 1st step that often on film appears faster than Branch's. I also think offenses, especially running offenses spent WAY more time blocking him than they did everyone else on that defense.

I agree with this. Thompson probably has the most consistent get off explosion than any other DT in this class. I mean EVERY snap this guy brings it 100%. IMO if he can hone his craft and use that explosion with technique he can become one hell of a pass rusher. Watching his videos, it seems like he is just content with just destroying lineman on bull rushes. If he gets lower and develops some rip techniques to split gaps, he can become one of the best pass rushers this draft has to offer.

I think people need to give him more of a chance. He has a ton of untapped potential. And I think his stock is rising with a real good pro day

alau53
03-09-2012, 02:20 PM
the giants basically have a high draft choice guy on their roster in marvin austin..thats like having a top pick already at DT..i dont think reese will go for another DT that early unless his grade is much higher than others at pick 32..i can see reese trading down

BlueSanta
03-09-2012, 02:37 PM
the giants basically have a high draft choice guy on their roster in marvin austin..thats like having a top pick already at DT..i dont think reese will go for another DT that early unless his grade is much higher than others at pick 32..i can see reese trading down

I loved marvin as a pick last year, but you gotta remember, this kid hasnt played football since 2009. Furthermore, we definitely had depth issues along the Dl last year and this Dline class is very strong.

nycsportzfan
03-09-2012, 06:26 PM
Considering we like size/speed/production, I think these are some players we would look at in various rounds:

At CB: Stephen Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Big, skilled and fast.

At LB: Tank Carder and Nigel Bradham. Both of these guys are underrated, productive and athletic.


At Safety: Ugh this is tough, I hate this safety class. Mark Baron and Markelle Martin are all there is to really like. George IIoka is and ok mid/late prospect to take a chance on because he is big enough to work against a TE, which is the new flavor in the NFL.


DT: So many options here. It is a strong class. Early, I like Worthy, Still and Cox, I just dont see them making it to 32. I think there is an outside chance Brockers will fall because of his disapointing combine and if he does, I think he we would be lucky to have him. I think Brandon Thompson is also a guy in the 2nd+ round we might consider because of good athleticism on top of high character/academics. Mike Martin is interesting because before the senior bowl he was considered a nose tackle only prospect, but having done so well all week in 1v1 drills and scrimmage, he is a guy that has to be on some 4-3 team's radar. I love his nasty.

DE: Chandler Jones. I really like Jones because he plays LDE and Tuck's injuries have mounted lately. When Tuck goes down we suffer a great deal because we dont have anyone else who is natural on that side. JPP was less productive there, Canty filled in some but wasnt a passrush threat from there. Tolly did well in passrush but suffered vs the run. Jones is a perfect fit for us and fits our mold of size/speed on defense to a tee. He could come in and spell Tuck in the rotation and help him avoid injury, and he could 1 day take over the position completely.

RB: I am floored by this RB class. As good as people say it is, it might still be underrated.Take your pick. Personally, I like Wilson, Martin,Pierce and Ballard more than where they are rated and I think all would fit nicely. Polk has worked himself back into my good graces too after showing up to the senior bowl out of shape he has lost 12 lbs and shown himself much better since.

TE: Fleener, Allen and Egnew are the 3 most obvious. Fleener and Allen for their respective skills, Egnew for is potential. I also see us having our eye on Rhett Ellison in the late rounds. Rhett is a versatile player from USC who played end line TE in 2010 and FB in 2011. He is a very good athlete and unselfish player.

OL: My guy all along was Glenn, but he is not gonna make it to us in round 1. In mid rounds I like Tony Bergstrom. He has the versatility to play different positions along the line, something we always covet and I like his fight.

WR: I do not see as much talent in this class as many. The top is nice, but I do not much like the mid/late round. 1 day 3 guy I do like is Greg Childs out of Arkansas. He is better than his numbers from this year indicate. He was coming off an injury.

QB: I could see us peeking at Pattrick Witt late in the draft. But, only a small chance.










I obviously love alot of your players u mention, but are they all guys u think the GIANTS and or REESE will covet, or a mix of guys U like and guys GIANTS/REESE will covet?</P>


I'm just curious to know what guys u think REESE/GIANTS will go for, based on past drafts, even if there guys u don't like... GIANTS type DRAFT picks if u will...</P>




Obviously, I like them too. But I tried to pick guys that fit Reese's mold too as well as guys that fit a certain need that might be lacking from this team. There are definitely guys I liked i left off because I do not see them fitting in here. For example, I think the strength of the WR class(after round1) is in the slot reciever spot, but we dont need another slot guy. We have Cruz and JJ. We need an outside guy to replace MM.

You have me curious as to who on my list you dont think is a Reese type player. I can give my justifications for each if needed.

I will mention that I struggled to put Trumaine Johnson on my list. He has the size/speed we like but lacks the big school competition Reese also covets.


Ill mention a couple other reasonings for guys I had on my list:

Mike Martin. Many know Michigan used some 3-4 defense this year and Martin served as a nose tackle in that role, eating double teams. I am reminded of Jay Alford (only better) coming out of school and how he also played in some hybrid 3-4 at PSU. Reese commented that he likes guys who spend all year fighting off 2 blockers, because it helps them develope the disposition required to play DT. Mike Martin has that disposition in droves. He is nasty. At the senior bowl he showed that he is very hard to block with just 1 blocker. At the combine he showed the burst.

I know your not a Brandon Thompson fan, but I see some things to like. He is a very smart high character young man(Giants likey those guys) and he has a 1st step that often on film appears faster than Branch's. I also think offenses, especially running offenses spent WAY more time blocking him than they did everyone else on that defense. Lastly, I think Clemson's defensive coordinator should be lobotomized for misusing the talent he has had there in recent years. I do not understand his gameplan for half the teams he plays. Such a waste.

1 Rb I failed to mention as a guy we might like is Davin Megget. He is a guy I could see us liking because a) he is undervalued and a mid/late round. 2) very duable, never missed a game. 3) is a north-south back who can pick up the shot yardage situations we have been unable to in recent years. 4) seems high character. You ever watch a clip of him post game? He is all "it wasnt me, it was my oline" etc. Gotta love that.
Ya, i tried to keep it just guys i could see the GIANTS and or REESE picking or liking... Sure, i like a few of em as well, but even if i didn't, i put them on there.. I'm not huge on Jerel Worthy, all though i woulden't be super bummed if we got em, but i could picture the GIANTS being into him, becasue of his untapped potential, based on not going 100pct all of the time.. I could see the giants thinking there coaches can get everything out of the kid, espeically when u got high motor guys like JPP areound em... But its cool, i was just curious is all.. Good call with C.Jones..</P>


As far as Thompson, his burst is useless because he does nothing with it... Its not like Clemson was impossible to run on.. The guy did nothing in my opinion, that any DT would do that played as many snaps as him on Defense.. I'd much rather Jerel Worthy, just on the upside alone.. </P>


I guess Thompson looked pretty fatigued at his proday as well, according to Walt Football..</P>


Defensive tackle Brandon Thompson ran well, notching a 1.77 10-yard split in his 40. However, he was fatigued in the drills, so you have to wonder how he's going to be in shape once he receives a signing bonus. Thompson will probably be chosen in the second round.</P>

BlueSanta
03-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Considering we like size/speed/production, I think these are some players we would look at in various rounds:

At CB: Stephen Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Big, skilled and fast.

At LB: Tank Carder and Nigel Bradham. Both of these guys are underrated, productive and athletic.


At Safety: Ugh this is tough, I hate this safety class. Mark Baron and Markelle Martin are all there is to really like. George IIoka is and ok mid/late prospect to take a chance on because he is big enough to work against a TE, which is the new flavor in the NFL.


DT: So many options here. It is a strong class. Early, I like Worthy, Still and Cox, I just dont see them making it to 32. I think there is an outside chance Brockers will fall because of his disapointing combine and if he does, I think he we would be lucky to have him. I think Brandon Thompson is also a guy in the 2nd+ round we might consider because of good athleticism on top of high character/academics. Mike Martin is interesting because before the senior bowl he was considered a nose tackle only prospect, but having done so well all week in 1v1 drills and scrimmage, he is a guy that has to be on some 4-3 team's radar. I love his nasty.

DE: Chandler Jones. I really like Jones because he plays LDE and Tuck's injuries have mounted lately. When Tuck goes down we suffer a great deal because we dont have anyone else who is natural on that side. JPP was less productive there, Canty filled in some but wasnt a passrush threat from there. Tolly did well in passrush but suffered vs the run. Jones is a perfect fit for us and fits our mold of size/speed on defense to a tee. He could come in and spell Tuck in the rotation and help him avoid injury, and he could 1 day take over the position completely.

RB: I am floored by this RB class. As good as people say it is, it might still be underrated.Take your pick. Personally, I like Wilson, Martin,Pierce and Ballard more than where they are rated and I think all would fit nicely. Polk has worked himself back into my good graces too after showing up to the senior bowl out of shape he has lost 12 lbs and shown himself much better since.

TE: Fleener, Allen and Egnew are the 3 most obvious. Fleener and Allen for their respective skills, Egnew for is potential. I also see us having our eye on Rhett Ellison in the late rounds. Rhett is a versatile player from USC who played end line TE in 2010 and FB in 2011. He is a very good athlete and unselfish player.

OL: My guy all along was Glenn, but he is not gonna make it to us in round 1. In mid rounds I like Tony Bergstrom. He has the versatility to play different positions along the line, something we always covet and I like his fight.

WR: I do not see as much talent in this class as many. The top is nice, but I do not much like the mid/late round. 1 day 3 guy I do like is Greg Childs out of Arkansas. He is better than his numbers from this year indicate. He was coming off an injury.

QB: I could see us peeking at Pattrick Witt late in the draft. But, only a small chance.










I obviously love alot of your players u mention, but are they all guys u think the GIANTS and or REESE will covet, or a mix of guys U like and guys GIANTS/REESE will covet?</p>


I'm just curious to know what guys u think REESE/GIANTS will go for, based on past drafts, even if there guys u don't like... GIANTS type DRAFT picks if u will...</p>




Obviously, I like them too. But I tried to pick guys that fit Reese's mold too as well as guys that fit a certain need that might be lacking from this team. There are definitely guys I liked i left off because I do not see them fitting in here. For example, I think the strength of the WR class(after round1) is in the slot reciever spot, but we dont need another slot guy. We have Cruz and JJ. We need an outside guy to replace MM.

You have me curious as to who on my list you dont think is a Reese type player. I can give my justifications for each if needed.

I will mention that I struggled to put Trumaine Johnson on my list. He has the size/speed we like but lacks the big school competition Reese also covets.


Ill mention a couple other reasonings for guys I had on my list:

Mike Martin. Many know Michigan used some 3-4 defense this year and Martin served as a nose tackle in that role, eating double teams. I am reminded of Jay Alford (only better) coming out of school and how he also played in some hybrid 3-4 at PSU. Reese commented that he likes guys who spend all year fighting off 2 blockers, because it helps them develope the disposition required to play DT. Mike Martin has that disposition in droves. He is nasty. At the senior bowl he showed that he is very hard to block with just 1 blocker. At the combine he showed the burst.

I know your not a Brandon Thompson fan, but I see some things to like. He is a very smart high character young man(Giants likey those guys) and he has a 1st step that often on film appears faster than Branch's. I also think offenses, especially running offenses spent WAY more time blocking him than they did everyone else on that defense. Lastly, I think Clemson's defensive coordinator should be lobotomized for misusing the talent he has had there in recent years. I do not understand his gameplan for half the teams he plays. Such a waste.

1 Rb I failed to mention as a guy we might like is Davin Megget. He is a guy I could see us liking because a) he is undervalued and a mid/late round. 2) very duable, never missed a game. 3) is a north-south back who can pick up the shot yardage situations we have been unable to in recent years. 4) seems high character. You ever watch a clip of him post game? He is all "it wasnt me, it was my oline" etc. Gotta love that.
Ya, i tried to keep it just guys i could see the GIANTS and or REESE picking or liking... Sure, i like a few of em as well, but even if i didn't, i put them on there.. I'm not huge on Jerel Worthy, all though i woulden't be super bummed if we got em, but i could picture the GIANTS being into him, becasue of his untapped potential, based on not going 100pct all of the time.. I could see the giants thinking there coaches can get everything out of the kid, espeically when u got high motor guys like JPP areound em... But its cool, i was just curious is all.. Good call with C.Jones..</p>


As far as Thompson, his burst is useless because he does nothing with it... Its not like Clemson was impossible to run on.. The guy did nothing in my opinion, that any DT would do that played as many snaps as him on Defense.. I'd much rather Jerel Worthy, just on the upside alone.. </p>


I guess Thompson looked pretty fatigued at his proday as well, according to Walt Football..</p>


Defensive tackle Brandon Thompson ran well, notching a 1.77 10-yard split in his 40. However, he was fatigued in the drills, so you have to wonder how he's going to be in shape once he receives a signing bonus. Thompson will probably be chosen in the second round.</p>

I absolutely agree Worthy over Thompson. Worthy is likely a mid/late 1st rounder with a chance of sliding into the early 2nd. Thompson is likely a mid 2nd rounder at best.

I am just not as poisoned on Thompson.

Neverend
03-09-2012, 07:05 PM
[Ya, i tried to keep it just guys i could see the GIANTS and or REESE picking or liking... Sure, i like a few of em as well, but even if i didn't, i put them on there..* I'm not huge on Jerel Worthy, all though i woulden't be super bummed if we got em, but i could picture the GIANTS being into him, becasue of his untapped potential, based on not going 100pct all of the time.. I could see the giants thinking there coaches can get everything out of the kid, espeically when u got high motor guys like JPP areound em...** But its cool, i was just curious is all.. Good call with C.Jones..</P>


As far as Thompson, his burst is useless because he does nothing with it...*** Its not like Clemson was impossible to run on.. The guy did nothing in my opinion, that any DT would do that played as many snaps as him on Defense..** I'd much rather Jerel Worthy, just on the upside alone..* </P>


I guess Thompson looked pretty fatigued at his proday as well, according to Walt Football..</P>


Defensive tackle Brandon Thompson ran well, notching a 1.77 10-yard split in his 40. However, he was fatigued in the drills, so you have to wonder how he's going to be in shape once he receives a signing bonus. Thompson will probably be chosen in the second round.</P>

That's a fair argument. However, I'm a firm believer in that high motor/passion guys are high motor/high passion guys from their youth. JPP played with a great motor in college already. These guys who struggle to play motivated in college are a huge risk imo

But I guess in the end both worthy and thompson will probably amount to little in their careers. but id go with thompson because hes a hard worker and just needs some refinment on how to use that explosiveness into production. but i can see worthys case as well

nycsportzfan
03-10-2012, 06:34 AM
[Ya, i tried to keep it just guys i could see the GIANTS and or REESE picking or liking... Sure, i like a few of em as well, but even if i didn't, i put them on there.. I'm not huge on Jerel Worthy, all though i woulden't be super bummed if we got em, but i could picture the GIANTS being into him, becasue of his untapped potential, based on not going 100pct all of the time.. I could see the giants thinking there coaches can get everything out of the kid, espeically when u got high motor guys like JPP areound em... But its cool, i was just curious is all.. Good call with C.Jones..


</P>


As far as Thompson, his burst is useless because he does nothing with it... Its not like Clemson was impossible to run on.. The guy did nothing in my opinion, that any DT would do that played as many snaps as him on Defense.. I'd much rather Jerel Worthy, just on the upside alone.. </P>


I guess Thompson looked pretty fatigued at his proday as well, according to Walt Football..</P>


Defensive tackle Brandon Thompson ran well, notching a 1.77 10-yard split in his 40. However, he was fatigued in the drills, so you have to wonder how he's going to be in shape once he receives a signing bonus. Thompson will probably be chosen in the second round.</P> That's a fair argument. However, I'm a firm believer in that high motor/passion guys are high motor/high passion guys from their youth. JPP played with a great motor in college already. These guys who struggle to play motivated in college are a huge risk imo But I guess in the end both worthy and thompson will probably amount to little in their careers. but id go with thompson because hes a hard worker and just needs some refinment on how to use that explosiveness into production. but i can see worthys case as well Ya, i just don't see Thompson being more then a rotational DT, at best... He reminds me of Mike Patterson, who has had a decent career, but i think we can find better... As for Worthy, the upside is there, and i think hes got a better chance of fulfilling his potential... To be honest, i'd rather wait on DT if we cant get Fletcher Cox or Devon Still, and go with a Jaye Howard in RD 4-5... Jaye Howard would fit nicely next to Linval Joseph, and give us that penetrating DT on Pass downs we could use....

nycsportzfan
03-25-2012, 08:39 PM
Every yr theres guys that remind me of Reese/Giant type players or prospects, and more often then not, one or 2 or more of those guys end up garnering interest leading up to the draft and sometimes get picked by them as well.. Adrien Tracy and Linval Joseph are a couple that come to mind off the top of my head... Anyhow, here are a few players that remind me of Reese guys or Giants type guys in general...</P>


Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St- This guy totally reminds me of a GIANT type prospect, especially if he somehow fell to the last pick of RD 2(he won't), and i woulden't even be shocked if the GIANTS were really interested with last pick of RD 1.. Of course really being interested in a player isn't all it takes, as the GUYS gotta be on the board at the right time and what not, and we also gotta have not addressed the positon all ready in FA'cy or earlier in the draft..</P>


Audie Cole LB Nc State- A guy who i think Reese will like, for his on field savy and awareness, and possibly value, depending on how far down Cole goes, i could see reese coveting the big bruising LB from NC STATE.. Just has a GIANT feel to him..</P>


Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin- Zeitler reminds me alot of a Seubert/Diehl /O'hara type "hard nosed" , wheres his "hard hat" to work everyday olineman, who would fit well as the kinda lineman we've seen to covet in recent yrs.. I easily could see Zeitler as a Reese guy, possibly in RD 2... I at least can see us showing interest leading up to the draft..</P>


Robert Turbin RB Utah St- Just has a feel of a guy Reese would covet, especially with the nice 40time at the combine, which just adds intrigue to his entire package, as a well built bruiser, who has the size to where down a defense, and u add in the speed to also go the distance, and i could see Reese really intrigued...</P>


Stephon Gilmore CB S.Carolina- Fits the Giant CB mold to a Tee.. Good size, solid speed, and plays the run well... I bet u Reese is all ready drewling over this guy...</P> I'm gonna add TOM COMPTON OT S.DAKOTA ST to the list of players i think the GIANTS will show interest in and or pick in this yrs draft.. Its not a first few rds pick, but from RD 4 and on... Compton has the mesaurables and upside the giants covet at the positon, and could end up being a starter in the NFL.. Compton is a sleeper to a degree, all though i think hes done enough to be a RD 4-5 pick...

heavyhitter
03-26-2012, 04:23 AM
<font size="2">In a weak class of safety's, these 4 are the cream of the crop IMO. I'd be thrilled if they drafted one of these guys:

1) SS Mark Barron (most likely gone by 32), could plug n play right away w/ KP and AR in the big nickel
2) SS Harrison Smith
3) FS Markelle Martin
4) FS Antonio Allen</font>

Raptor22
03-26-2012, 11:06 AM
I think I'll break this up based on position (no particular order) *Note: Not including guys like DeCastro, Melvin Ingram, or Trent Richerdson who the Giants would doubtless be interested, but are incredibly unlikely to fall anywhere near 32. Mayhaps we can start an "Amukamara Rule" thread

Defense:
DL:
1) Nick Perry (DE)
2) Whitney Mercilus (DE)
3) Tyrone Crawford (SCREAMS Reese/Giants draft pick) (DE)
4) Micheal Brockers (JPP at DT, after he loses some weight) (DT)
5) Dontari Poe (DT)
6) Fletcher Cox (DT)
7) Devon Still (DT)
8) Mike Martin (DT)
6) Marcus Forston (although his injury history is worrisome)

LB:
1) Luke Kuechly (MIKE)
2) Mychal Kendricks (short for a Giants draft pick, but his EXPLOSIVE athleticism makes up for it) (MIKE)
3) Travis Lewis (OLB)
4) Audie Cole (OLB) (Like Crawford, he screams "Giant")

DB:
1) Trumaine Johnson (CB)
2) Stephen Gilmore (CB)
3) Casey Hayward (CB)
4) Mark Barron (S)
5) George Illoka (S) (he would thrive as a "buffalo nickle" (yes, I just made that up, but it is now the name for the position. USE IT!) in Fewell's system)
6) Harrison Smith (S)
7)Markelle Martin (S)

Offense:
OL:
1) James Brown (G/RT)
2) Marcel Jones (RT)
3) Jonathan Martin (OT)
4) Bobby Massie (OT)
5) Amini Silatolu (G)
6) Kelechi Osemele (G/RT)
7) Kevin Zietler (G)
8) Cordy Glenn (G/RT)

WR:
1) Stephen Hill
2) Alshon Jeffery (depending on interviews)
3) Micheal Floyd
4) Marvin McNutt
5) Tommy Streeter

TE:
1) Coby Fleener
2) LaDarius Green
3) Dwayne Allen
4) George Bryan
5) Micheal Egnew\

RB:
1) Doug Martin
2) Llamar Miller
3) Robert Turbin
4) Davin Meggit (Past-Giant connection)
5) Darrell Scott (USF Rule)

Kruunch
03-26-2012, 11:31 AM
The Giants have looked at the following people:

1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day)

2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants)

3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA)

nycsportzfan
03-26-2012, 02:58 PM
The Giants have looked at the following people: 1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day) 2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants) 3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA) Omar Bolden is visiting the giants as well.. Hes the big CB from Arz St...

Kruunch
03-26-2012, 03:25 PM
The Giants have looked at the following people: 1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day) 2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants) 3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA) Omar Bolden is visiting the giants as well.. Hes the big CB from Arz St...

You mean small CB from Arizona St?

Omar Bolden is 5'10".

lawl
03-26-2012, 05:49 PM
The Giants have looked at the following people: 1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day) 2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants) 3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA) Omar Bolden is visiting the giants as well.. Hes the big CB from Arz St...

Think we met with Reuben randle and Stephen hill too right?

nycsportzfan
03-26-2012, 06:01 PM
The Giants have looked at the following people: 1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day) 2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants) 3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA) Omar Bolden is visiting the giants as well.. Hes the big CB from Arz St... You mean small CB from Arizona St? Omar Bolden is 5'10". No, i mean big, at over 200lbs.. I didnt say tall or short.. 5ft 10 3/8in 202lb's is a bigger CB...

nycsportzfan
03-26-2012, 06:03 PM
The Giants have looked at the following people: 1) Coby Fleener (TE) (Mike Pope was at his Pro Day) 2) Mohamed Sanu (WR) (worked out for the Giants) 3) Jewel Hampton (RB) (projected UDFA) Omar Bolden is visiting the giants as well.. Hes the big CB from Arz St... Think we met with Reuben randle and Stephen hill too right? maybe at the combine or something.. Or possibly at the prodays.. I do remember hering something about that, but they have not visited NY or anything...

Kase-1
03-27-2012, 12:39 PM
Im kinda suprised we havent shown intrest in Vinny Curry the DE from Marshall, the dude is a pass rushing fiend!!!!

Then again maybe its one of J-Reese's head games, LOL

deekay7685
03-29-2012, 03:00 PM
1st :
Te- c fleener (stan)
Rb- d martin (boise); Dts- d still (penn st); b Thompson (clem); Mlb- l kuechly (bc); de- a branch (clem); wr- s hill (geo tech); ot- m adams (ohio st)

2nd:
Wr- m sanu (rutg)
Te- d allen (clem); rb- c polk (wash); c- b jones (u ga); ot- b massie (miss)

3rd:
Olbs- n bradham (fla st), k robinson (u tex)
Rb- r turbin (ute st); dt- d harris (usc); ot- n potter (boise); wr- m jones (u cal); fs- t robinson (mich st)

4th (2 picks):
Wr- j wright (ark); mlb- a cole (nc st)
Lbs- t carder (tcu), e acho (u tex); cbs- a Jackson (cal poly), d flecher (bc), c judie (tamu); mlb- j franklin (ark); fb/hb/te- e rodriguez (temp); c- q saulsberry (miss st)

5th:
Dt- a hicks (regina)
Wr- r broyles (okla); te- r Ellison (usc); de- d paige-moss (unc); ol- a datko (fla st), r miller (colo)

6th:
De- j miller (wvu)
Ot- l Ad**** (ok st); cb- e davis (e caro); te/hb- j hanna (okla)

7th:
Dts- n jeab-baptiste (Baylor), c anunoby (morehouse); de- f alexander (okla); ot- m zusevics (iowa); og- j looney (wake for); fs- c mosley (u va), j young (s fla), hardin (ore st), n thorpe (aubrn)