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RoanokeFan
03-09-2012, 10:59 AM
LINVAL JOSEPH JUSTIFIES THE GIANTS' FAITH IN HIM (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/3/9/2857089/linval-joseph-justifies-the-giants-faith-in-him)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108661/linval-joseph">Linval
Joseph</a> out of East Carolina in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft they
were hoping the massive 6-foot-4, 328-pound defensive tackle would turn into a
run-stuffing force in the middle of their defense.<div class="entry-body">


There was some concern in the fan base when Joseph barely played as a rookie,
getting in on only 63 snaps and making eight tackles. In 2011, however, Joseph
blossomed/ He statred 15 games after Barry Cofield (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2212/barry-cofield)
left via free agency, made 49 tackles and had two sacks. </p>


How good was Joseph against the run? Pro Football Focus ranked him fifth in the league (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/08/2011-run-stop-percentage-interior-defensive-linemen/) among
defensive tackles in its 'Run Stop Percentage' statistic. The Run Stop
Percentage stat determines the number of times a defender has caused an
offensive failure as a percentage of how many plays he is in on run defense. By
PFF's calculations Joseph did that 8.7 percent of the time, the same number as
New England's <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1713/vince-wilfork">Vince
Wilfork</a>.</p>


You might also want to know that out of the 46 defensive tackles who played
at least 200 snaps in run defense the aforementioned Cofield placed 45th in the
league in Run Stop Percentage, making such plays just 2.8 percent of the
time."</p></div>

Spedracer
03-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Just goes to show you that a players ability can be made much stronger or much weaker depending on the system.

Cofield is an effective DT in his prime. Problem is, he is playing out of place.

I'm loving me some Linval.

JJC7301
03-09-2012, 11:20 AM
Just goes to show you that a players ability can be made much stronger or much weaker depending on the system.

Cofield is an effective DT in his prime. Problem is, he is playing out of place.

I'm loving me some Linval.
And Wilfork is a NT and is ranked 5th -- that's amazing for a NT.

Cofield is awesome -- would love to see him as a Giant again one day.

I'm very happy we have Joseph.

Eli TO Shockey
03-09-2012, 11:35 AM
Great read. Linval is a beast. Hope he's a giant for many years to come .

Kruunch
03-09-2012, 12:04 PM
LINVAL JOSEPH JUSTIFIES THE GIANTS' FAITH IN HIM (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/3/9/2857089/linval-joseph-justifies-the-giants-faith-in-him)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108661/linval-joseph">Linval
Joseph</a> out of East Carolina in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft they
were hoping the massive 6-foot-4, 328-pound defensive tackle would turn into a
run-stuffing force in the middle of their defense.<div class="entry-body">


There was some concern in the fan base when Joseph barely played as a rookie,
getting in on only 63 snaps and making eight tackles. In 2011, however, Joseph
blossomed/ He statred 15 games after Barry Cofield (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2212/barry-cofield)
left via free agency, made 49 tackles and had two sacks. </p>


How good was Joseph against the run? Pro Football Focus ranked him fifth in the league (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/08/2011-run-stop-percentage-interior-defensive-linemen/) among
defensive tackles in its 'Run Stop Percentage' statistic. The Run Stop
Percentage stat determines the number of times a defender has caused an
offensive failure as a percentage of how many plays he is in on run defense. By
PFF's calculations Joseph did that 8.7 percent of the time, the same number as
New England's <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1713/vince-wilfork">Vince
Wilfork</a>.</p>


You might also want to know that out of the 46 defensive tackles who played
at least 200 snaps in run defense the aforementioned Cofield placed 45th in the
league in Run Stop Percentage, making such plays just 2.8 percent of the
time."</p></div>


Joseph had a good year but not as good as that article suggests.

We were 19th in run defense this year and Joseph was 9th in tackles among DTs (27th overall among Dline).

Pro Football Focus is comprised of a few fans who take TV footage and try to dissect each and every play. They have no qualifying NFL experience (they were interviewed today on Mike and Mike / ESPN Radio).

They also don't understand Oline and Dline gap responsibility and strategy well in what I've seen of their analysis.

Redeyejedi
03-09-2012, 12:43 PM
LINVAL JOSEPH JUSTIFIES THE GIANTS' FAITH IN HIM (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/3/9/2857089/linval-joseph-justifies-the-giants-faith-in-him)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108661/linval-joseph">Linval
Joseph</a> out of East Carolina in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft they
were hoping the massive 6-foot-4, 328-pound defensive tackle would turn into a
run-stuffing force in the middle of their defense.<div class="entry-body">


There was some concern in the fan base when Joseph barely played as a rookie,
getting in on only 63 snaps and making eight tackles. In 2011, however, Joseph
blossomed/ He statred 15 games after Barry Cofield (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2212/barry-cofield)
left via free agency, made 49 tackles and had two sacks. </p>


How good was Joseph against the run? Pro Football Focus ranked him fifth in the league (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/08/2011-run-stop-percentage-interior-defensive-linemen/) among
defensive tackles in its 'Run Stop Percentage' statistic. The Run Stop
Percentage stat determines the number of times a defender has caused an
offensive failure as a percentage of how many plays he is in on run defense. By
PFF's calculations Joseph did that 8.7 percent of the time, the same number as
New England's <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1713/vince-wilfork">Vince
Wilfork</a>.</p>


You might also want to know that out of the 46 defensive tackles who played
at least 200 snaps in run defense the aforementioned Cofield placed 45th in the
league in Run Stop Percentage, making such plays just 2.8 percent of the
time."</p></div>
Reese made the right call here. Linval is on his way to being a better player then Coefield and makes a fraction of the money ,for now. I liked Coefield but he wasnt worth the contract the Skins gave him

RoanokeFan
03-09-2012, 12:51 PM
LINVAL JOSEPH JUSTIFIES THE GIANTS' FAITH IN HIM (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/3/9/2857089/linval-joseph-justifies-the-giants-faith-in-him)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108661/linval-joseph">Linval
Joseph</a> out of East Carolina in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft they
were hoping the massive 6-foot-4, 328-pound defensive tackle would turn into a
run-stuffing force in the middle of their defense.<div class="entry-body">


There was some concern in the fan base when Joseph barely played as a rookie,
getting in on only 63 snaps and making eight tackles. In 2011, however, Joseph
blossomed/ He statred 15 games after Barry Cofield (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2212/barry-cofield)
left via free agency, made 49 tackles and had two sacks. </p>


How good was Joseph against the run? Pro Football Focus ranked him fifth in the league (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/08/2011-run-stop-percentage-interior-defensive-linemen/) among
defensive tackles in its 'Run Stop Percentage' statistic. The Run Stop
Percentage stat determines the number of times a defender has caused an
offensive failure as a percentage of how many plays he is in on run defense. By
PFF's calculations Joseph did that 8.7 percent of the time, the same number as
New England's <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1713/vince-wilfork">Vince
Wilfork</a>.</p>


You might also want to know that out of the 46 defensive tackles who played
at least 200 snaps in run defense the aforementioned Cofield placed 45th in the
league in Run Stop Percentage, making such plays just 2.8 percent of the
time."</p></div>


Joseph had a good year but not as good as that article suggests.

We were 19th in run defense this year and Joseph was 9th in tackles among DTs (27th overall among Dline).

Pro Football Focus is comprised of a few fans who take TV footage and try to dissect each and every play. They have no qualifying NFL experience (they were interviewed today on Mike and Mike / ESPN Radio).

They also don't understand Oline and Dline gap responsibility and strategy well in what I've seen of their analysis.

It's just information. Individual statistics are meaningless to me until a player retires and is being considered for the HOF. Still, in a system where developing players is close to an art form, I think he'sa keeper and will be joined by Marvin Austin this season.

Kruunch
03-09-2012, 01:36 PM
LINVAL JOSEPH JUSTIFIES THE GIANTS' FAITH IN HIM (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/3/9/2857089/linval-joseph-justifies-the-giants-faith-in-him)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108661/linval-joseph">Linval
Joseph</a> out of East Carolina in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft they
were hoping the massive 6-foot-4, 328-pound defensive tackle would turn into a
run-stuffing force in the middle of their defense.<div class="entry-body">


There was some concern in the fan base when Joseph barely played as a rookie,
getting in on only 63 snaps and making eight tackles. In 2011, however, Joseph
blossomed/ He statred 15 games after Barry Cofield (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2212/barry-cofield)
left via free agency, made 49 tackles and had two sacks. </p>


How good was Joseph against the run? Pro Football Focus ranked him fifth in the league (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/08/2011-run-stop-percentage-interior-defensive-linemen/) among
defensive tackles in its 'Run Stop Percentage' statistic. The Run Stop
Percentage stat determines the number of times a defender has caused an
offensive failure as a percentage of how many plays he is in on run defense. By
PFF's calculations Joseph did that 8.7 percent of the time, the same number as
New England's <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1713/vince-wilfork">Vince
Wilfork</a>.</p>


You might also want to know that out of the 46 defensive tackles who played
at least 200 snaps in run defense the aforementioned Cofield placed 45th in the
league in Run Stop Percentage, making such plays just 2.8 percent of the
time."</p></div>


Joseph had a good year but not as good as that article suggests.

We were 19th in run defense this year and Joseph was 9th in tackles among DTs (27th overall among Dline).

Pro Football Focus is comprised of a few fans who take TV footage and try to dissect each and every play. They have no qualifying NFL experience (they were interviewed today on Mike and Mike / ESPN Radio).

They also don't understand Oline and Dline gap responsibility and strategy well in what I've seen of their analysis.

It's just information.* Individual statistics are meaningless to me until a player retires and is being considered for the HOF.* Still, in a system where developing players is close to an art form, I think he'sa keeper and will be joined by Marvin Austin this season.


Can't argue with you there.

I hope Austin shines.

NYG4lifeNYK
03-09-2012, 01:43 PM
I think Linval will be much better than Cofield.


He gets constant push up the middle with ease it seems. He pushed Mangold around like a rag doll both games. The kid is stronger than an ox...

He made big strides last season... can only imagine how much more prepared he will be next season.

alau53
03-09-2012, 02:40 PM
the problem in having joseph as a 2nd rd pick and not playing rookie season brought me and many of us bad memories of the 2nd rd DT '03 also joseph..kennedy, who was on gmen roster this yr, along with dwayne robertson and the vikings williams were high DT in '03 draft..joseph was the worse

THE_New_York_Giants
03-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Joseph is one of the strongest guys in the NFL.

nygsb42champs
03-09-2012, 02:59 PM
He has a very solid year for us. He will only continue to improve.

gmen0820
03-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Pro Football Focus is comprised of a few fans who take TV footage and try to dissect each and every play. They have no qualifying NFL experience (they were interviewed today on Mike and Mike / ESPN Radio).And who does know responsibilities or strategy of the OL and the DL with the exception of people with access to the All-22 film?

They know just as much as us fans do about gap responsibilities and strategies, except they spend more time dissecting each and every play than any of us do and that alone makes their analysis more credible than mine, yours or anyone on here.

ShakeNBake
03-09-2012, 03:28 PM
I think this is a perfect example of why Reese builds through the draft. Don't get me wrong I loved Cofield but this is a business, and you can't continue to sign big money FAs unless you want to end up like the Skins.

zimonami
03-09-2012, 03:37 PM
Yep, I was happy with Linval's work this year, and looking forward to Austin being healthy in 2012... you can never have too many good DL's/depth, especially in Fewell's system.

BornBrooklyn
03-09-2012, 03:53 PM
Joseph is one of the strongest guys in the NFL.

Him & Petrus...

NYfanatic
03-09-2012, 04:19 PM
Him and Austin + JPP and some of Tuck/Kiwi/Canty should be dominating opponents Olines for years to come. Exciting.

giantsforce
03-10-2012, 12:25 PM
I think this is a perfect example of why Reese builds through the draft. Don't get me wrong I loved Cofield but this is a business, and you can't continue to sign big money FAs unless you want to end up like the Skins.
Or the Eagles.