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NYG4lifeNYK
03-10-2012, 05:50 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?

NYG4lifeNYK
03-10-2012, 05:50 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?

jparmer
03-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Bradshaw is another great blocker. Ware sucks at it. Scott hasn't had much of a chance yet. To be continued...

Bohemian
03-10-2012, 05:57 PM
I really think that this was a concern about three years ago, as Bradshaw could not block anything coming around the corner... but that has definitely changed. Jacobs saw less and less time on third down, and Ware took over. I think that we will see Bradshaw keep on improving, just as he has the last couple of years. Bradshaw's pass blocking was one of the pleasant surprises for me last season. He has come a long way.

Jacobs was great at it, but he was never a running threat out of the gun formation.

TheEnigma
03-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Bradshaw is actually the highest rated RB in the league for pass blocking and Jacobs was up there as well. I think that's actually a sign of great coaching from Ingram so I'm confident Scott will grasp it.

Bohemian
03-10-2012, 06:08 PM
Bradshaw is actually the highest rated RB in the league for pass blocking and Jacobs was up there as well. I think that's actually a sign of great coaching from Ingram so I'm confident Scott will grasp it.

It is great to read that about Bradshaw. I still see him missing all those blocks against the Saints a couple of years ago, when the game was so close, and Eli was so angry at him. It is the only time that I have seen Eli so angry at anyone, to the point that he actually hit him. That was a weird moment.

I thought that ware did a good job last year, but don't have a high opinion of him as a running back. So, if Scott can really step in and become a meaningful contributor, then it should be a very competitive pre-season.

Harooni
03-10-2012, 06:17 PM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.

radar-ray
03-10-2012, 11:17 PM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

BlueSanta
03-11-2012, 12:42 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......

JMFP2
03-11-2012, 12:55 AM
The Giants should place a priority on finding a new #1 running back. I'd like to see them draft someone high (i.e., 2nd/3rd round), preferably from a tough conference like the SEC, that places a priority on running against great defenses in huge games.</P>


Outside the SEC, if Chris Polk is available, I'd be happy if the Giants got him.</P>


I'm not expecting Bradshaw to lose his starting job, but hisankles are completely undependable. Trusting him to carries 20+ times for 16 games is insane.</P>


I was on the Da'Rel Scott bandwagon last year...and then he played, and showed a lack of ball security.</P>


DJ Ware is not a #1 back....he's okay, but he's not a game-changer by any means.</P>


I think the Giants can draft somone who will be able to handleblitz pickup...look around the league, there are plenty of rookie RBs that have adjusted to the NFL. Of all the positions on the team, RB is the most forgiving for rookies, IMHO.</P>


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Harooni
03-11-2012, 01:10 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......


thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .

JMFP2
03-11-2012, 01:14 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......
thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .</P>


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A Bradshaw block wasn't the same asJacobs block....Bradshaw bought time....Jacobs flat out stoned LB's.</P>

BlueSanta
03-11-2012, 03:02 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......
thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .</p>


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A Bradshaw block wasn't the same asJacobs block....Bradshaw bought time....Jacobs flat out stoned LB's.</p>

He also wiffed on blocks too because he tried to deck a guy he should have just blocked. He was good, the stats show that. But AB was the best pass protection back in the NFL as the stats also show.

NYSPORTS
03-11-2012, 09:30 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......


thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .


Quite often this past season, when the OL needed help, it was Bradshaw in for blocking assignments while Jacobs was on the sidelines. Take special notice to both 49ers games.

TheEnigma
03-11-2012, 10:19 AM
Aw, sorry. He was only #2 behind this guy called Quinn Johnson who rarely played. MY BAD GUYS.

radar-ray
03-11-2012, 10:42 AM
I said show me facts not opinion, not that it wasn't true.

bLuereverie
03-11-2012, 11:11 AM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......
thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .</P>


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A Bradshaw block wasn't the same as*Jacobs block....Bradshaw bought time....Jacobs flat out stoned LB's.</P>

The effect was still the same. Who cares what it looks like on a highlight reel. Blocking ain't pretty.

Hooligans
03-11-2012, 05:17 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?

Bradhsaw was as good as Jacobs in pass blocking.

JMFP2
03-11-2012, 05:22 PM
bradshaw was the better of the two really. blocking wise.


Facts not opinion, please.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/17/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-running-backs/

Uh-oh. Someone has some crow to eat.......
thx they assume that because bj was big he was better, but not the case .</P>


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A Bradshaw block wasn't the same asJacobs block....Bradshaw bought time....Jacobs flat out stoned LB's.</P>


The effect was still the same. Who cares what it looks like on a highlight reel. Blocking ain't pretty.</P>


I think Jacobs blocks were more solid....just my opinion. </P>


Bradshaw was out on the field more, so his stats are going to be more forgiving than a platoon player.</P>

egyptian420
03-11-2012, 05:27 PM
I'm not sure exactly who was better, they were both pretty good. I hope the next RB that steps up is decent in blocking and catches the ball.

bflo23
03-11-2012, 07:28 PM
Bradshaw has always been considered the better blocker of the 2. People can't just assume because Jacobs was bigger that he was automatically better. Bradshaw is a very good blocking RB.

nycisgreat
03-11-2012, 08:29 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?


Yep, I agree. Bradshaw and Ware don't put any emphasis on blocking on pass plays. I think Jacobs will be sorely missed in that department. His pass protection was superb.

Tommy3rd
03-11-2012, 08:30 PM
we'll be fine. our QB has gotten pretty good at making defenses pay when they blitz.

jparmer
03-11-2012, 08:32 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?


Yep, I agree. Bradshaw and Ware don't put any emphasis on blocking on pass plays. I think Jacobs will be sorely missed in that department. His pass protection was superb.


Apparently u didn't read the link on the first page

jomo
03-11-2012, 08:57 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?


Yep, I agree. Bradshaw and Ware don't put any emphasis on blocking on pass plays. I think Jacobs will be sorely missed in that department. His pass protection was superb.
Plow the savings into an improved OL.</P>


Hopefully we re-sign him at the right price.</P>

TheEnigma
03-11-2012, 09:02 PM
So now we measure blocking skills by who is bigger and who weighs more? Interesting.

buddy33
03-11-2012, 09:12 PM
Jacobs is an excellent blocker but Bradshaw is very good as well.

As far as Scott, give the guy a chance. He was a rookie in a lockout season. Im sure they will work on it with him.

BigBlue1971
03-11-2012, 09:45 PM
Jacobs used to STONEWALL anyone who tried to get to Eli...


Can Scott pickup a blitz?
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i think Scott is learning to pick up blitzes! that was much of his progress last year! if he plays much he'll have to be good at it! its essentialfor him to be good.</P>


Jacobs and Bradshaw were/are both very good for Eli. </P>

Tony Bruno
03-12-2012, 10:18 AM
Bradshaw is actually the highest rated RB in the league for pass blocking and Jacobs was up there as well. I think that's actually a sign of great coaching from Ingram so I'm confident Scott will grasp it.

It is great to read that about Bradshaw. I still see him missing all those blocks against the Saints a couple of years ago, when the game was so close, and Eli was so angry at him. It is the only time that I have seen Eli so angry at anyone, to the point that he actually hit him. That was a weird moment.

I thought that ware did a good job last year, but don't have a high opinion of him as a running back. So, if Scott can really step in and become a meaningful contributor, then it should be a very competitive pre-season.
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I remember that game... I was like "dang Eli hit AB in the back of the shoulder pads pissed"... </P>