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Itlan
03-12-2012, 03:55 PM
I thought it would be a lot lower considering the Jacobs cut and the Eli restructure, but jesus. We're in a really tough pickle, considering TT, and Nicks and Cruz wanting new contracts, along with rookie contracts...

giantsfan420
03-12-2012, 03:58 PM
I read on ESPN.com and NFL.com we're now 3 mil under the cap and now with the 1.6 mil added to every team except NO, Oakland, DC, and Dallas, we are at 4.6 under the cap with a couple more moves to get us further...we'll be able to re-sign all the FA's from our roster we want to and a couple FA's from the NFL pool and still be a mil or two under the cap when all is said and done.

and in 2013-14 we get a new TV deal that will give us a lot more room to our cap

Itlan
03-12-2012, 04:04 PM
"According to Ralph Vacchiano: New York Giants are approximately $2.3 million under the cap WITH the new $1.6 million rewarded to the Giants from the Skins/Cowboys." - In Reese We Trust

And the TV cap won't come until 2014/15 season, not next season.

G-Man67
03-12-2012, 04:07 PM
cha-ching !</P>


and all you chicken littles said we were bankrupt ...</P>


but all kiddin aside, this is Jerry's regular season ... time for him to do his thing</P>


it's fun following all this offseason stuff, when you are the Champions !!</P>

giantsfan420
03-12-2012, 04:08 PM
"According to Ralph Vacchiano: New York Giants are approximately $2.3 million under the cap WITH the new $1.6 million rewarded to the Giants from the Skins/Cowboys." - In Reese We Trust

And the TV cap won't come until 2014/15 season, not next season.

hmmm. even in a few articles RF has posted, the FA primer one and another couple, it says w'er 3 mil under the cap...

i dont know, sorry if my info is incorrect. but even if u go by the accepted version of what happened with eli restructuring and letting jacobs go

we were 7 mil over, eli saved us what was it 6 mil with the restructure? and then Jacobs 4 mil we saved, that'd put us at 3 mil???

eh whatever, reese will get er done

u got a link for where ur source said that?

nygsb42champs
03-12-2012, 04:11 PM
If we are only 2.3 under how much where we over beofre these last 2 moves? It just does not seem to add up.

MattMeyerBud
03-12-2012, 04:28 PM
I thought it would be a lot lower considering the Jacobs cut and the Eli restructure, but jesus. We're in a really tough pickle, considering TT, and Nicks and Cruz wanting new contracts, along with rookie contracts...

TT is a free agent, so he has no contract

Nicks isn't asking for a new contract, but hes going to be a FA in a few years

don't forget about osi

and the real scary part is that we still only have about 75-80% of the amount of players we need to field a team

Itlan
03-12-2012, 05:14 PM
I thought it would be a lot lower considering the Jacobs cut and the Eli restructure, but jesus. We're in a really tough pickle, considering TT, and Nicks and Cruz wanting new contracts, along with rookie contracts...

TT is a free agent, so he has no contract

Nicks isn't asking for a new contract, but hes going to be a FA in a few years

don't forget about osi

and the real scary part is that we still only have about 75-80% of the amount of players we need to field a team
We need to resign TT.
We need to resign Nicks.
We need to resign Cruz.

We have $2.3 million this year, with backloaded contracts coming up next year (Canty, Rolle, Eli).

Do you not see what I'm getting at? The cap is completely destroyed at this point, and we're going to be in a worse situation next year than we are this year...

TheBookOfEli
03-12-2012, 05:40 PM
The chances of Rolle and Canty being cut this year have gone up.

giantsfan420
03-12-2012, 06:05 PM
I thought it would be a lot lower considering the Jacobs cut and the Eli restructure, but jesus. We're in a really tough pickle, considering TT, and Nicks and Cruz wanting new contracts, along with rookie contracts...

TT is a free agent, so he has no contract

Nicks isn't asking for a new contract, but hes going to be a FA in a few years

don't forget about osi

and the real scary part is that we still only have about 75-80% of the amount of players we need to field a team
We need to resign TT.
We need to resign Nicks.
We need to resign Cruz.

We have $2.3 million this year, with backloaded contracts coming up next year (Canty, Rolle, Eli).

Do you not see what I'm getting at? The cap is completely destroyed at this point, and we're going to be in a worse situation next year than we are this year...

ur way off on ur reasoning about the whole resign thing, we wont have to do any of those at the same time.

ur figure about 2.3 mil is incorrect. i went and rechecked it, saw nothing of vach saying what u said. if u could post a link? bc i went back and checked to see if i read it wrong, and multiple sources have us at 3 mil under the cap WITHOUT the added 1.6.

perhaps this figure ur quoting is after we re-signed hixon, ballard, and whoever else we did so far...actually i'm sure thats what it is...

reese knows what he's doing. guarantee we re-sign nicks and cruz. TT isnt a big deal at all, he'd be our nickel db...

next year we could cut canty and rolle if we draft their replacements and they show the FO we can move on from them...the cap is not completely destroyed, we still have a couple of restructures and probably cuts, canty and rolle will not be one of them...this season

Itlan
03-12-2012, 08:47 PM
It was from In Reese We Trust on twitter.

Bumm
03-12-2012, 08:49 PM
we are at 4.6 under the cap with a couple more moves to get us further...we'll be able to re-sign all the FA's from our roster we want to and a couple FA's from the NFL pool and still be a mil or two under the cap when all is said and done.

Signing UFA's isn't going to happen unless half the team restructures, which won't happen. That's barely enough to cover RFA's and rookie contracts.

Drez
03-12-2012, 09:20 PM
The chances of Rolle and Canty being cut this year have gone up.</P>


No it doesn't. They'd create too much dead money (at least Rolle would, not too sure what guaranteed money Canty left on his deal). Rolle alone would create $6m of dead money and a cap savings of $3m. Who are you going to get to replace him for that?</P>


Also, with Canty, even though he's making a lot of money, he's making the kind of money that DT of his caliber make. He might be at the higher end, but it is what it is. We also don't have anyone to replace him.</P>

comebacktiki
03-12-2012, 10:11 PM
How much does McKenzie make? That should help the cap. Who will step in for his place? I would like to see Bell from the Bills.

XxBigWhitxX
03-12-2012, 10:30 PM
There is also still Rocky Bernard, Clint Sintim, Coe, Witherspoon. Deihl, Osi, Micheal Clayton, Ramses Barden who can all be cut.

Itlan
03-12-2012, 10:38 PM
How much does McKenzie make? That should help the cap. Who will step in for his place? I would like to see Bell from the Bills.He's not part of the cap. Most of the money he made last year is more than made up by Rolle's, Canty's and Webster's inflating contracts.

bLuereverie
03-12-2012, 10:47 PM
Moving Canty would result in 4.25mil in dead money. That clears about 3.4 mil.



Moving Rolle would result in 7.05mil in dead money. Clears about 2.05 mil. He's not going anywhere.

Turning 4.2mil of Snee's base into a bonus this year could save 2mil in cap room and reallocate money to his final year which can in turn be transformed into an extension.



McKenzie is not under contract, so him not being on the team has no affect on the cap. Same with Rocky Bernard and Michael Clayton.

Diehl would be the best cut from a pure financial standpoint, but they should have done so before the new league year, so I don't think it will happen.

comebacktiki
03-12-2012, 10:55 PM
How much does McKenzie make? That should help the cap. Who will step in for his place? I would like to see Bell from the Bills.He's not part of the cap. Most of the money he made last year is more than made up by Rolle's, Canty's and Webster's inflating contracts.D'oh my bad, I forgot he was Free Agent.