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JacksGiant76
03-14-2012, 11:34 PM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.

gmen0820
03-14-2012, 11:43 PM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me.

myles2424
03-15-2012, 12:02 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...

giantsfan420
03-15-2012, 12:05 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me.

we'd, in my mind, be clear favorites to repeat. i hope the next player we target is Smith so we can get this done with already. Great post.

giantsfan420
03-15-2012, 12:05 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me.

we'd, in my mind, be clear favorites to repeat. i hope the next player we target is Smith so we can get this done with already. Great post.

giantsfan420
03-15-2012, 12:07 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...

we spent a 3rd on Beckum and we carry Pascoe and Ballard. We carry 3 TE's, and like GMEN said, Fleener is quick and fast enough to obliterate LB's/Safeties out of the slot, and big enough to own nickel corners out of the slot.
Keep in mind, we also signed Ballard for one year only as well if I'm not mistaken. If Fleener is the BPA, we'll draft him.

TheEnigma
03-15-2012, 12:11 AM
Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RBOut of that list, I'd have to go with Fleener.

Hill has the most upside out of all of these players but I think Fleener would do wonders in our system. He has to work on his blocking and add a little more size but his polished work and upside are hard to pass up. Basically, I think Fleener is the safer pick who also offers good upside.

Hightower is better for a 3-4 and while he could do good in our system as a hybrid DE/LB, we already have Kiwi for that.

Jenkins is way too much of a risk with his off the field issues and could cause drama potentially.

Mike Adams isn't bad per say but I do worry about his low bench press numbers at the combine and how raw he is. Plus I think there's better tackle value further in the draft.

David Wilson just isn't worth the 32 and the only RB I'd want to use it on would be Trent Richardson but he won't be available most likely.

myles2424
03-15-2012, 12:14 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...

we spent a 3rd on Beckum and we carry Pascoe and Ballard. We carry 3 TE's, and like GMEN said, Fleener is quick and fast enough to obliterate LB's/Safeties out of the slot, and big enough to own nickel corners out of the slot.
Keep in mind, we also signed Ballard for one year only as well if I'm not mistaken. If Fleener is the BPA, we'll draft him. I bet even if fleener is available, we won't draft him....

gmen0820
03-15-2012, 12:15 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...I'm not positive we will go TE. I think Stephen Hill is a high prospect on Reese's board because we've shown the ability to coach WRs up, he has all the tangibles, and is a great run blocker for our perimeter game (which has been improved by the Bennett signing as well).

But Jenkins is a character concern, Wilson is a guy I'd like in the second -- and no earlier, Hightower is better suited for a 34 defense, and Mike Adams is not a favorite of mine.

Spizi
03-15-2012, 12:19 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.

gmen0820
03-15-2012, 12:20 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...

we spent a 3rd on Beckum and we carry Pascoe and Ballard. We carry 3 TE's, and like GMEN said, Fleener is quick and fast enough to obliterate LB's/Safeties out of the slot, and big enough to own nickel corners out of the slot.
Keep in mind, we also signed Ballard for one year only as well if I'm not mistaken. If Fleener is the BPA, we'll draft him. I bet even if fleener is available, we won't draft him....It isn't far fetched that we pass on him. Personally, I'd take him just because of the flexibility I speculate could happen.

Spizi
03-15-2012, 12:21 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...I'm not positive we will go TE. I think Stephen Hill is a high prospect on Reese's board because we've shown the ability to coach WRs up, he has all the tangibles, and is a great run blocker for our perimeter game (which has been improved by the Bennett signing as well).

But Jenkins is a character concern, Wilson is a guy I'd like in the second -- and no earlier, Hightower is better suited for a 34 defense, and Mike Adams is not a favorite of mine.

I find it hard to believe that we would take Hill because I can only imagine the disaster he would be running option routes or any pro style routes for that matter.

JJC7301
03-15-2012, 12:29 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.


Geez, I put up almost the same exact thread weeks ago and nobody bit on my thread. No love. ;(

It would have to be BPA, but if I HAD to choose from the list above, it would be between Adams and Jenkins. I'd have to go with Adams.

I'd rather spend money (and high picks) on skill positions, but our o-line has a chance of being scary bad this year. I don't THINK it'll be as bad as some think, but it could be potentially terrible so that's why I wouldn't mind a O-lineman (whether it's Adams or someone else) in the 1st this year.

I'd be happy with any of the names above, but I'm not interested in a TE or RB in the 1st.

XxBigWhitxX
03-15-2012, 12:36 AM
I say it's between Jenkins, Hightower, and Hill. we just don't value any of the other positions enough to where I see us picking them in the first. We can niver have to many good corners, or weapons for Eli. also Hightower is a good pass rusher and Rolando McClain who we desperately wanted came from the same school and system and is a good MLB for the 4-3 Raiders.

giantman8493
03-15-2012, 12:38 AM
Coby Fleener. He can stretch the seams, let Bennett work the underneath route while he comes off chipping a DL, and let Cruz and Nicks do the rest.

Fleener would give us so much flexibility in our formations. He can play tight to the line, and the slot, and Bennett is a huge factor as well. He will play close to the line, he can light up a DE and go out for a pass in the intermediate range. But that is not to say that Bennett can't do those same things. That is why we can dictate ANYTHING on offense.

I know you said make the decision without another FA, but what if you add SS12 into the equation as well? We'd literally be unstoppable because we would have an incredible blend of timing and talent, and if anyone doesn't over praise, it is me. I highly doubt after bennett we'd go TE in the 1st.....between a 1st round pick,Bennett,Ballard that would indicate one of them not being on the team in 2013......were all hoping that Bennett pans out,Ballard showed great potential & obviously a 1st round pick wouldn't be going anywhere......
How about egnew in the 4th...

we spent a 3rd on Beckum and we carry Pascoe and Ballard. We carry 3 TE's, and like GMEN said, Fleener is quick and fast enough to obliterate LB's/Safeties out of the slot, and big enough to own nickel corners out of the slot.
Keep in mind, we also signed Ballard for one year only as well if I'm not mistaken. If Fleener is the BPA, we'll draft him.do you know what fleener's pro day 40 was?

alau53
03-15-2012, 01:37 AM
i think they'll take a dl..like the dt from penn state if he's still there

ShockeyShow
03-15-2012, 02:01 AM
Fleener for sure.

But hypothetically speaking, as someone said above, nothing would make me happier if Reese surprised everyone by trading up to get Trent Richardson. If not him, then Monte Ball out of Wisconsin. We'd be heavy favorites if either of those were in our backfield

myles2424
03-15-2012, 02:06 AM
Fleener for sure.

But hypothetically speaking, as someone said above, nothing would make me happier if Reese surprised everyone by trading up to get Trent Richardson. If not him, then Monte Ball out of Wisconsin. We'd be heavy favorites if either of those were in our backfield I think Ball went back to school.....

BluGiantPies
03-15-2012, 02:20 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

PRFan
03-15-2012, 02:57 AM
Stanford pro day is the 22nd.

ShockeyShow
03-15-2012, 02:59 AM
Fleener for sure.

But hypothetically speaking, as someone said above, nothing would make me happier if Reese surprised everyone by trading up to get Trent Richardson. If not him, then Monte Ball out of Wisconsin. We'd be heavy favorites if either of those were in our backfield I think Ball went back to school.....

Well that rules him out lol....T-Rich...ALL IN!

G-FanFromDurham
03-15-2012, 04:10 AM
Eli almost got hurt bad in the 49ers game because he was forced to pass on almost every down. I would select David Wilson,Va.Tech RB

Spizi
03-15-2012, 07:44 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

because we're not going to take a WR in the 1st round who would only be our number 3 WR. We have 2 third round picks invested in Barden and Jernigan who both really haven't had their shots yet. Also Hill comes from GT where they do not run pro style routes so he would have a lot to learn. What team with two top 10 WRs would draft another WR in the first?? no one because no one else even has 2 top 10 WRs on their team.

Spizi
03-15-2012, 07:48 AM
Eli almost got hurt bad in the 49ers game because he was forced to pass on almost every down. I would select David Wilson,Va.Tech RB

The main problem there is that our oline could not run block for their lives. Even AP would have stuggled against the 9ers. I like David Wilson for a lot of reasons but any RB can run behind a great oline. The opposite is not usually true unless you're Barry Sanders.

BluGiantPies
03-15-2012, 01:30 PM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

because we're not going to take a WR in the 1st round who would only be our number 3 WR. We have 2 third round picks invested in Barden and Jernigan who both really haven't had their shots yet. Also Hill comes from GT where they do not run pro style routes so he would have a lot to learn. What team with two top 10 WRs would draft another WR in the first?? no one because no one else even has 2 top 10 WRs on their team. so Mr Smarty pants y did the giants meet with hill then u don't have to school me on the giants roster I know what they have. Your missing the point the giants know they need that z recievier to stretch the field for the other guys that's y they met with hill and randle. Jerrinigan is a nice player but I don't think hell be anything more then a returner and part time wr. He's too small to be the z. He would prolly be good in the slot but that's cruzs spot. Don't get me started on barden he can't get separation and is always injured. We need a z.

critters
03-15-2012, 01:46 PM
DONT'A HIGHTOWER! Yeah yeah, he's better suited for a 34... I want him anyway just to see how it would work. I want a physical presence in the middle and a guy that will bust his butt and be a leader on the team. I also like players that come from good coaching and championship pedigree. He'd be a monster at DE as well. GET THIS GUY! He's dominated every step of the way in his football career and I don't see why that would change in the pros.

I see no problems with Hill or Wilson either. Wilson is an incredible RB, I just don't like the idea of going first round on him.

GGTM_1977
03-15-2012, 01:55 PM
Here is my take.....from what I have heard Fleener sounds great. However he sounds more like a recieving TE than a blocking TE, and we all know that Coughlin's philosophy for TE is, they are blockers first, then if their number is called on a pass play they are a reciever. If we draft a guy like Fleener, or pick up a FA like this........I feel they would be under used here, aka their talents would be wasted. That being the case, to err on the side of caution, I say we pick Adams OT.

BluGiantPies
03-15-2012, 01:59 PM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

because we're not going to take a WR in the 1st round who would only be our number 3 WR. We have 2 third round picks invested in Barden and Jernigan who both really haven't had their shots yet. Also Hill comes from GT where they do not run pro style routes so he would have a lot to learn. What team with two top 10 WRs would draft another WR in the first?? no one because no one else even has 2 top 10 WRs on their team.by your logic the giants never should have drafted jpp either BC we already had two probowl defensive ends. See how silly that sounds. Pass rushers corners and pass catchers u can never have enough talented players at those positions.

BluGiantPies
03-15-2012, 02:00 PM
Here is my take.....from what I have heard Fleener sounds great. However he sounds more like a recieving TE than a blocking TE, and we all know that Coughlin's philosophy for TE is, they are blockers first, then if their number is called on a pass play they are a reciever. If we draft a guy like Fleener, or pick up a FA like this........I feel they would be under used here, aka their talents would be wasted. That being the case, to err on the side of caution, I say we pick Adams OT.mike Adams will be a steeler. They supposedly love him.

lawl
03-15-2012, 08:46 PM
Out of the list, I want Stephen Hill.</P>


We have two bigtime WRs already on our team and there is no guarantee we'll be able to keepboth of them longterm. We need a top flight guy to step in when the time comes. </P>


That said. I'm thinking a DT might slip to us that we have rated highly.</P>

Spizi
03-16-2012, 04:58 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

because we're not going to take a WR in the 1st round who would only be our number 3 WR. We have 2 third round picks invested in Barden and Jernigan who both really haven't had their shots yet. Also Hill comes from GT where they do not run pro style routes so he would have a lot to learn. What team with two top 10 WRs would draft another WR in the first?? no one because no one else even has 2 top 10 WRs on their team.by your logic the giants never should have drafted jpp either BC we already had two probowl defensive ends. See how silly that sounds. Pass rushers corners and pass catchers u can never have enough talented players at those positions.

No that's not how my logic works lol. 2 different situations. Nicks and Cruz are both under age 25 and we have some young talent behind them. Tuck and Osi were both over the age of 27, we didn't have much depth behind them (kiwi had a neck injury), and it's quite obvious that the Giants can never have enough pass rushers. I'm just going off of how the giants have gone about things in the past. I guarantee Hill will not be selected by the giants in the 1st. I wouldn't mind it if they did though because I know what you mean about having a guy to stretch the field. Hill can definitely do that.

Spizi
03-16-2012, 05:00 AM
If we didn't make any other moves after today and we're picking last in the first round and the following players were available, who you take and why ?

Stephen Hill - WR
Donta Hightower - ILB
Janoris Jenkins - CB
Mike Adams - OT
Cody Fleener - TE
David Wilson - RB


Gotta say I'd lean towards Stephen Hill and a deep threat reciever to replace Manningham and keeping Cruz in the slot.



All I can say is that from your list there's no way in hell we take Hill, Jenkins, or Hightower. This leaves Adams, Fleener, and Wilson. I don't see Adams because they like Brewer and seem to take later round linemen. The thing against Wilson is his ball security and once again we like to take RBs later in the draft. So basically I think they would take Fleener out of that list and so would I.why would that be, the giants met with hill at his pro day. Hill would be my choice outta those guys. He could stretch the field and open things up for the rest of the offense. He's a bigger faster more athletic better blocking version of manninham. I don't understand y there's no way in hell the giants would take him BC he'd pretty much be bpa and fills a need even if most of the people on this board don't think it is.

because we're not going to take a WR in the 1st round who would only be our number 3 WR. We have 2 third round picks invested in Barden and Jernigan who both really haven't had their shots yet. Also Hill comes from GT where they do not run pro style routes so he would have a lot to learn. What team with two top 10 WRs would draft another WR in the first?? no one because no one else even has 2 top 10 WRs on their team.by your logic the giants never should have drafted jpp either BC we already had two probowl defensive ends. See how silly that sounds. Pass rushers corners and pass catchers u can never have enough talented players at those positions.

No that's not how my logic works lol. 2 different situations. Nicks and Cruz are both under age 25 and we have some young talent behind them. Tuck and Osi were both over the age of 27, we didn't have much depth behind them (kiwi had a neck injury), and it's quite obvious that the Giants can never have enough pass rushers. I'm just going off of how the giants have gone about things in the past. I guarantee Hill will not be selected by the giants in the 1st. I wouldn't mind it if they did though because I know what you mean about having a guy to stretch the field. Hill can definitely do that.

BluGiantPies
03-16-2012, 12:10 PM
Ur probably right hill will be gone. I think unless Mario comes gimping home without his Mega deal were gonna need a reciever in the first few rounds who can do exactly that stretch the field. Right now the giants have the oppurtunity to become an elite offense and they would be stupid not to grab it when they have the chance. Teams with elite o's are consistently going to be at the top of the the standings BC of the new rules. Now none of those teams like patriots packers or saints has anything even close to what we have in the pass rushing dept. So theoretically if our offense is just as good as there's and or pass rushers and defense is better then there's we'd have a shot at that dynasty we all wanted so much until cheddar bob shot himself in that night club.