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NYG4lifeNYK
03-15-2012, 08:03 PM
<div class="thread_body"><div class="thread_main"><div class="thread_post_header"> Paul Dottino Tweet on Osi Umenyiora <div class="thread_info"> Eric from BBI (http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=5&amp;handle=Eric%20from%20BBI) : 7:56 pm</div></div><div class="thread_post_body"> GiantsWFAN &amp; #8207; @giantswfan





think will see redo (trade less likely) for osi in few wks




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http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&amp;thread=437784


Wow........ these boards are so freaking ******ed with the censoring a's at the end of titles lol....
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NewYorkSwagg
03-15-2012, 08:59 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.

Morehead State
03-15-2012, 09:12 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>

radar-ray
03-15-2012, 09:14 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P> Disagree!

quan the don
03-15-2012, 09:16 PM
True, I would rather have JPP on the field but you never know with tuck.

NYG4lifeNYK
03-15-2012, 09:20 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p>

A 3rd LOL.....


And what happens if JPP or Tuck go down? It's called quality depth and that's how you have the best D-line in the NFL.

9 sacks, 2 FF in 9 games, 7 starts.

Drez
03-15-2012, 09:32 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>


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MH, do you fail to remember that our defense got much better once all 3 of our DEs were nice and healthy. </P>


If he wants to stay and make a fair contract, then it benefits us greatly to keep him. If he wants too much, then ship him off. We could probably get at least a second, even if he is essentially only a pass rusher.</P>

egyptian420
03-15-2012, 09:33 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p>

A 3rd LOL.....


And what happens if JPP or Tuck go down? It's called quality depth and that's how you have the best D-line in the NFL.

9 sacks, 2 FF in 9 games, 7 starts.

+1

miked1958
03-15-2012, 10:17 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>I liked when they rushed 5 last yr and u had either tuck or Osi line up as a DT

miken609
03-15-2012, 10:28 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>

hey hater, osi is a special talent if u havent already realized

cornerback30
03-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Man I just don't see how we can resign him to the type of deal he wants,I mean even at a reduced price.With our cap issues how is it even possible,I don't see Reese giving him a big time deal with a large signing bonus and a small base salary,that's what he's upset about now.I just don't see this playing out any other way besides a trade.Not that I want to see him go but,there's just not enough money from what I can tell.Then Tuck is up after this upcoming year isn't he,plus Cruz want more,Nicks Reese better not let him hit the open market,JPP the same Reese have his work cut out for him.

Drez
03-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Man I just don't see how we can resign him to the type of deal he wants,I mean even at a reduced price.With our cap issues how is it even possible,I don't see Reese giving him a big time deal with a large signing bonus and a small base salary,that's what he's upset about now.I just don't see this playing out any other way besides a trade.Not that I want to see him go but,there's just not enough money from what I can tell.Then Tuck is up after this upcoming year isn't he,plus Cruz want more,Nicks Reese better not let him hit the open market,JPP the same Reese have his work cut out for him.
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Maybe while playing during this past season (and winning yet another SB) he's realized that he loves playing here, and money notwithstanding, that NY is the best situation for him as far as long term professional success is concerned.</P>

DEgiants89
03-15-2012, 11:37 PM
truth truth sir

TrueBlue@NYC
03-15-2012, 11:41 PM
Like how our nickle back is a starter, our 3rd DE is essentially as starter as well. He's a pass rush specialist of the highest caliber.

Give him a deal similar to John Abraham, who played a similar role on the falcons for the past few years.

Bohemian
03-15-2012, 11:45 PM
If Osi wants to remain a Giant, and the team can afford him next year, then it is a great situation. Tuck, JPP, and him will make a nasty rotation, and our pass rush set-up will remain the baddest in the league for a very very long time.

I am for trading him if he expresses not wanting to be around, but definitely not if otherwise. Osi is an all-pro level player with great consistency.

The only way that I trade him, is if a team offered us that MLB that we have been looking for... Patrick Willis... :)

JJC7301
03-15-2012, 11:47 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.
+1. Abso-f******-lutely!

Firenugget
03-16-2012, 06:15 AM
If it means giving him stupid money I'd rather let him hold out/trade him. But without knowing all that...Can't really say anything other than he's not worth a top DE contract.

buddy33
03-16-2012, 07:40 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>

I don't want to say he should go, but this makes some sense. They have a bunch of guys they need to take care of the next year or two he is getting up there while getting dinged up pretty good.

They would still have options like moving Kiwi back to DE or drafting another DE.

SweetZombieJesus
03-16-2012, 07:49 AM
<div class="thread_body"><div class="thread_main"><div class="thread_post_body">Wow........ these boards are so freaking ******ed with the censoring a's at the end of titles lol....
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Yeah, in particular it censors anything ending with an "a".

Bob Papa
Wellington Mara
Osi Umenyiora

I'm struggling to think of anything ending in "a" that's a curse word. Unless it's an Italian censorship. "Hey, whya youa no shutuppa youa face."

For a while there it was censoring "paper".

Redeyejedi
03-16-2012, 08:18 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P> Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

buddy33
03-16-2012, 08:24 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P> Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

The problem is cost. Is he suddenly going to play for less or is there a way they can structure a deal that won't hurt the cap and make him happy? I think Tuck next year is a huge priority for the team.

gumby742
03-16-2012, 08:48 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P> Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

imo, we have a ton of key free agents to sign next year and the following. We star handing out larger contracts over the next few years, a lot of those guys won't be in Giant blue. Heck, we'd be hard pressed to sign both Nicks AND Cruz at the current rate.

I definitely don't want to waste long term money on arguably the 3rd best on the team.

nygsb42champs
03-16-2012, 10:19 AM
Lets hope it all works out.

Harooni
03-16-2012, 10:49 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p>
i agree, i liked him a lot. but the giants proved they don't need him to win games. Also i don't like how plays the run.

GameTime
03-16-2012, 10:53 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>



i agree, i liked him a lot. but the giants proved they don't need him to win games. Also i don't like how plays the run.
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he is "semi" one dimensionl but he is a game changer for sure. Tough player to give up. They may not win in GB this past season without him there. Of course that taking one play out of context but its just an example. </P>

TroyArcher
03-16-2012, 11:17 AM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


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I'll be happy if he makes it hrough one year let alone 5 or 6. The guy has been injury prone in recent years. </P>

NYG4lifeNYK
03-16-2012, 01:48 PM
<div class="thread_body"><div class="thread_main"><div class="thread_post_body">Wow........ these boards are so freaking ******ed with the censoring a's at the end of titles lol....
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Yeah, in particular it censors anything ending with an "a".

Bob Papa
Wellington Mara
Osi Umenyiora

I'm struggling to think of anything ending in "a" that's a curse word. Unless it's an Italian censorship. "Hey, whya youa no shutuppa youa face."

For a while there it was censoring "paper".


LOL

burier
03-16-2012, 02:12 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go.* The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field.* He's a one dimentional player and thats it.* Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>

a 3rd would be doubtful.

a 4th sounds more like it. Would you tade him for a 4th?

NYG4lifeNYK
03-16-2012, 02:26 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p> Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

+1


Oh and just because Osi might be the 3rd best DE on this team doesn't mean he isn't a HELL of a DE... just means he's on a team LOADED with talent. JPP &amp; Tuck are both top 10 DE's might even make a case for top 5. With JPP it's only a matter of time before he's THE best.

Osi is still a top 10 DE

NYG4lifeNYK
03-16-2012, 02:27 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p>

a 3rd would be doubtful.

a 4th sounds more like it. Would you tade him for a 4th?

LMFAO..... do you hear yourself?

Morehead State
03-16-2012, 02:28 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</P>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</P>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</P>


Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

+1


Oh and just because Osi might be the 3rd best DE on this team doesn't mean he isn't a HELL of a DE... just means he's on a team LOADED with talent. JPP &amp; Tuck are both top 10 DE's might even make a case for top 5. With JPP it's only a matter of time before he's THE best.

Osi is still a top 10 DE
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If he was willing to play out his contract next year as is, I'm fine with Osi staying to be a part of the rotation. But if he still wants to whine about his contract, when the contract he has was completely front-loaded, I say get rid of him.</P>

LT_was_good
03-16-2012, 02:36 PM
If an extension doesn't happen, I think I'd still rather have Osi for one more year on a team built to win now than get an extra middle-round pick.

Morehead State
03-16-2012, 02:42 PM
If an extension doesn't happen, I think I'd still rather have Osi for one more year on a team built to win now than get an extra middle-round pick.
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I would too, but would he not be a pain in the *** all season without a new deal.</P>


Thats the real question.</P>

NYG4lifeNYK
03-16-2012, 02:51 PM
That would be amazing, I would love for Osi to retire a Giant so we will hold the torch with the best D-Line for a long time. I say stick him with a 5 or 6 year deal he should be done by then ready to retire.</p>


Osi should go. The more he's on the field, the less JPP is on the field. He's a one dimentional player and thats it. Trade him for a 3rd as far as I'm concerned.</p>


Burning up cap space for Osi is a waste of money.</p>


Why do people want to trade the best pass rusher on the team. I dont see why it has to be one or the other. JPP can rush from the inside or they can go with a 5 man front and stand Osi up way outside. Osi is a great edge rusher and this is a passing league.Start Tuck and JPP and let Osi rotate in and let him fly of the edge.It will keep him fresh ,less wear and tear. He could even get lighter and faster then as well.

+1


Oh and just because Osi might be the 3rd best DE on this team doesn't mean he isn't a HELL of a DE... just means he's on a team LOADED with talent. JPP &amp; Tuck are both top 10 DE's might even make a case for top 5. With JPP it's only a matter of time before he's THE best.

Osi is still a top 10 DE
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If he was willing to play out his contract next year as is, I'm fine with Osi staying to be a part of the rotation. But if he still wants to whine about his contract, when the contract he has was completely front-loaded, I say get rid of him.</p>

I think he gets a new contract soon