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True 2 Blue
03-16-2012, 02:42 AM
The 2012 Giants have A TON of potential

Cruz getting experience and developing with Eli? As with Nicks?

Healthy (knock on wood) Hixon returning kicks/punts and perhaps a few balls?

Martellus Bennett, who is more talented than TEs we have used of late? With Ballard/Beckum returning mid season for more options?

Da'Rel Scott possibly seeing more playtime, if he can step up and coach well, that speed could be gamebreaking

Healthy Amukamara with a proper offseason/preseason, while havin gotten his feet wet witht he playbook and coaches/teams?

Return of Chad Jones, Marvin Austin, while no NFL experience.....COULD be good players, ou never know they were both very talented high draft picks.

Other players getting healthy, younger guys getting better (really looking forward to the development of Jacquain Williams)

NFL Draft, Free agency, still more players to be brought in!

The players, alot of restructures, alot of teamwork, everyone top to bottom, players, coaches, owners, front office, EVERYONE in on the same page, that alone will pay dividends

I know it is alot of ifs ands and buts, alot of different scenarios and situations to be played out, but there is definitely alot of potential for this team next year. Gonna be very exciting, lets hope things goes as well and they can, this potential is untapped, gonna be fun to watch

giantsfan420
03-16-2012, 02:48 AM
i think we will be unstoppable ill go ahead and say it.

our roster is going to be more talented than last season as long as we can get or have a viable 3rd wr on the roster.

besides MM, we arent losing anyone that we cant improve on their position.

our D is virtually set once we re-sign Goff, we get a bunch of injured players from last year back.

on offense, we'll be getting younger and more athletic. eli is going to continue to dominate. and with this draft, somehow we'll still get even better.

if we have a good draft, and we get production from our 3 wr, i see us going like 11-5 at least. i just see this team being dominant like we were the final 6 games of the season...eli is going to be up there for league MVP...CANT WAIT FOR THE DRAFT AND THEN THE SEASON!!

giantsfan420
03-16-2012, 02:51 AM
u cant teach confidence.

remember the SB in 07? we were a 10 win team that struggled quite a bit.

the next season, the confidence and trust in each other propelled us to 11-1 with a fluke loss to cleveland. had plex not been a moron, we'd have repeated and gone like 13-2. i expect that kind of dominance this season. big BIG things are instore for us.

remember, this team is EXTREMELY young with the right mix of seasoned, talented veterans. the young guys will have a years experience and postseason success, u cannot account for that. football, at the nfl level, is 90% mental. this teams mindset trumps the league and its not even close

RichGiants81
03-16-2012, 02:54 AM
They need some serious line help. It's a miracle that Eli didn't get broken in half in that niners playoff game. Eli took way to many hits and the running game was last in the league making the team live off of 3rdndown conversions seemingly on every drive. That needs to be corrected with much better line play. Hate to say it but I think bass was a major disapointment. That along with mckenzie really slowing down in the second half of the year really hurt the offence

G-Men Surg.
03-16-2012, 03:03 AM
I'm confident in the talent on this team and the managment provided by the FO and coaches but man I just hope the injury bug doesn't bite hard this coming season.

giantsfan420
03-16-2012, 03:12 AM
I'm confident in the talent on this team and the managment provided by the FO and coaches but man I just hope the injury bug doesn't bite hard this coming season.


rich-i think the OL can only improve. there's no way they can play as poorly as they did last season. that was perhaps the worst performance form our OL in the last 10 years. They did better in the playoffs. With KMac leaving, we're going to get younger which means not as much experience, but more athleticism and hunger imho. Brewer or whoever it is, will play better than Kmac bc there's just no way to play that badly.
Baas also, he played awesome in the SB, hopefully an offseason program and getting 100% healthy equates better play. Beatty at LT was also much better than DD who was graded the worst OL in the league. When your rock bottom, theres no place to go but up and last seasons OL play was rock bottom.

And Surg., I just can't see us getting hit by the bug two years in a row...just cant see it...we'll have an injury here and there, but not like last season, that was like record breaking the number of key players to get hurt last season

RichGiants81
03-16-2012, 03:35 AM
Agreed. I was impressed with petrus when he got in there. I'd like to see him get a lot more time in the new rotation. I always see him going nuts on the sidelines and he plays hard when whenever his number gets called. Dudes like mckenzie had me nervous as hell coming down the stretch, but in the end, he did enough to help win another ring and I'm thankful for that

G-Men Surg.
03-16-2012, 04:03 AM
I'm confident in the talent on this team and the managment provided by the FO and coaches but man I just hope the injury bug doesn't bite hard this coming season.


rich-i think the OL can only improve. there's no way they can play as poorly as they did last season. that was perhaps the worst performance form our OL in the last 10 years. They did better in the playoffs. With KMac leaving, we're going to get younger which means not as much experience, but more athleticism and hunger imho. Brewer or whoever it is, will play better than Kmac bc there's just no way to play that badly.
Baas also, he played awesome in the SB, hopefully an offseason program and getting 100% healthy equates better play. Beatty at LT was also much better than DD who was graded the worst OL in the league. When your rock bottom, theres no place to go but up and last seasons OL play was rock bottom.

And Surg., I just can't see us getting hit by the bug two years in a row...just cant see it...we'll have an injury here and there, but not like last season, that was like record breaking the number of key players to get hurt last season
Its going to be interesting to say the least seeing again the shuffle the O line is about to suffer . Totally agree it all starts and ends with the OL , again I'm confident in the talent around and I concur that it only can get better . I'm very excited about the moves we are about to see in this regard. Reese has a plan by now and can't wait to watch him in action in this upcoming draft. Nothing is written In stone aside of C and RG the remaining spot are to be defined and solidify in depth.

FlyingTruck
03-16-2012, 04:14 AM
We NEED to make sure our offensive line is ready to go. After that, yeah, I think we're unstoppable.

danishGiant
03-16-2012, 04:15 AM
Ballard and Beckum is not going to return midseason. They both had torn ACL in the Super Bowl.

giantsfan420
03-16-2012, 04:41 AM
Ballard and Beckum is not going to return midseason. They both had torn ACL in the Super Bowl.

well pascoe was good enough behind ballard, so dont see why he wouldnt be behind bennett. also i believe we're gonna draft fleener or a wr so offense should be good

Spizi
03-16-2012, 04:45 AM
I know it's very unlikely to repeat, but we definitely have a legit shot. I can almost guarantee that we make the playoffs again.

Firenugget
03-16-2012, 06:53 AM
Way too many variables in this game. I'll be happy if we're alive in December.

JimC
03-16-2012, 09:24 AM
Way too many variables in this game. I'll be happy if we're alive in December.


Amen! Let's not forget we were a 9-7 team last year, but got healthy and hot at the right time. I agree with "firenugget" lets just get to December with a chance to get into the playoffs.

hungrrrry
03-16-2012, 09:35 AM
I view this offseason as one of our best and we spent so much less, so far, on outside talent. I definately would like to see us get Goff's deal done and focus on a heavy-hitting RB in the draft.

Reese actually addressed issues that needed to be addressed right away with just a few things to deal with...but not make or break things. He did not do this last season so it was frustrating and you have to credit the coaching for plugging the leaks.

I definately see a lot of improvement in the 2012 team so if anything else comes our way it is a bonus. If Goff doesn't sign before the draft then I expect RB and LB to be our main targets and they will need to be players that could step right in as needed.

I am very optimistic about this season given the fact we had a team in shambles during the regular season and yet managed to pull together and win the superbowl against all odds...that is a sign of a great headcoach...Vegas is still trying to pay off that 100:1 line.

buddy33
03-16-2012, 09:41 AM
They where a 9-7 team this year and got it together at the right time. I agree with others that I just want to see them alive in December and then work from there.

I do worry about the OL. The running game was the worst in the league. Yes thh won the Super Bowl, but I think it's best for them to be a better rounded offensive team. They have another brutal schedule. Maybe worse than last year. Cruz was excellent, but it was just one year. I don't get the feeling he is a one year wonder, but I need to see it again. I'm also hoping that losing Manningham does not hurt.

Now in the other hand, I think Prince is the real deal and I have a feeling Austin is going to be just fine. If so, imagine the pass rush they would have with their DE's and Austin coming up the middle. Then have Webster and Prince covering their men well. Sounds great anyway. Can't wait for pre season.

gumby742
03-16-2012, 09:55 AM
i think we will be unstoppable ill go ahead and say it.

our roster is going to be more talented than last season as long as we can get or have a viable 3rd wr on the roster.

besides MM, we arent losing anyone that we cant improve on their position.

our D is virtually set once we re-sign Goff, we get a bunch of injured players from last year back.

on offense, we'll be getting younger and more athletic. eli is going to continue to dominate. and with this draft, somehow we'll still get even better.

if we have a good draft, and we get production from our 3 wr, i see us going like 11-5 at least. i just see this team being dominant like we were the final 6 games of the season...eli is going to be up there for league MVP...CANT WAIT FOR THE DRAFT AND THEN THE SEASON!!

the only thing stopping us is our defense. They were absolute **** for most of the season.

Gimaniac
03-16-2012, 10:07 AM
Nicks and Cruz are really the only proven offensive commodities on this team. Double team those 2 and make the rest of the team beat you.

nhpgiantsfan
03-16-2012, 10:36 AM
I do believe our offense will be one of the top scoring offenses in the league. However, I am still not sold that our defense, will be of championship caliber. I know they stepped up in the playoff run, but I still don't think they would've been able to hang with the Saints. </P>


Our D-line is awesome, obviously. But we are still suspect at LB. It looks like we are really gonna be counting on strong sophmore years from last years rookies. And, our secondary, in a league where you now need 3 starting CB's for the most part, we have CWebb and 2 question marks. Hopefully TT can be 100% and become a better cover guy. And let's be honest, we really don't know what we have with Prince yet. Remember, just because he was a 1st round pick, doesnt mean he will be a star. See Will Allen, and Aaron Ross, (even though I thought Ross was decent this year).</P>


So I can easily see them winning the division, but not sold that they can dominate right through the playoffs. Let's face it, we got hot at the right time this past year.</P>

MikeSherrard
03-16-2012, 10:37 AM
The Giants don't play well as favorites and or with high expectations. Lets be careful.

nygsb42champs
03-16-2012, 11:17 AM
The potential is there for us to have a dynamic season.

JJC7301
03-16-2012, 10:47 PM
I sincerely believe that the last 6 games of last season (including the SB) was no fluke -- we are as well rounded as any team in the NFL.

And things will be different than in '08 because we won't be thinned out by losing so many key players for various reasons like we did back then in Strahan, Plax, Osi, and Shockey.

We're solid and fairly deep in talent. Just get the o-line straightened out and we should be fine. And I think the o-line can be improved to the point that it will be significantly better than last year.

I like the talent that we have in the middle of the o-line so far with Snee, Boothe, Petrus, and Baas (I think Baas is not great, but has value). We'll fix the tackle situation with a draft pick and maybe Brewer, Diehl, and Beatty figuring in somehow. I think everything's going to be OK with the o-line.

Toadofsteel
03-17-2012, 03:39 AM
I don't know how it's going to happen, but after giving them **** for so many years it's time i stop ragging on them and just trust that JR is going to build the best roster possible and TC is going to coach that roster into the best team possible.