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stumms
03-16-2012, 07:01 PM
I keep seeing mock drafts with us picking one of the two. I didn't see to many of there games but the clips of Wilson are amazing but Miller looks good too who should we take..

hungrrrry
03-16-2012, 07:11 PM
Neither seem like they are valued as a receiver out of the backfield...good runners in college though, but not big enough to wear defenses down

NewYorkSwagg
03-16-2012, 07:19 PM
Lamar Miller is better and plus you know the Giants like the University of Miami players a lot.

myles2424
03-16-2012, 07:28 PM
Neither seem like they are valued as a receiver out of the backfield...good runners in college though, but not big enough to wear defenses down we always go with a RB rotation, we never have just one back we use & abuse.......lesean McCoy Isnt big enough to wear defenses down either.....

Bones911
03-16-2012, 07:53 PM
I remember watching the Combine that Dave Wilson is a more 3 down all around back.
Though I do like both of them. I just can't predict if would would take a RB in round 1 or 2.

GMenNY21
03-16-2012, 07:53 PM
Both are electric runners , & have outstanding burst off the snap .. Miller in my mind , is the more complete back, but Wilson is more physical & will break more tackles at the next level.. I would be happy with either 1 .. Pairing either of the these guys or even Doug Martin, out of Boise State with Bradshaw would make our offense MUCH more dangerous than it all ready is

myles2424
03-16-2012, 07:59 PM
Both are electric runners , & have outstanding burst off the snap .. Miller in my mind , is the more complete back, but Wilson is more physical & will break more tackles at the next level.. I would be happy with either 1 .. Pairing either of the these guys or even Doug Martin, out of Boise State with Bradshaw would make our offense MUCH more dangerous than it all ready is personally I'd rather trade back a few spots & get a extra pick/Doug Martin....

TheBookOfEli
03-16-2012, 08:09 PM
Wilson was great at catching balls at the Combine, Miller not so much but both i know are great receiving RB's.

Wilson can break tackles and Miller has the break away speed. Both are great and i would love to have either RB at 32.

Redeyejedi
03-16-2012, 08:13 PM
Lamar Miller had the best Speed score from the class.Its a metric that calculates speed/weight. the Giants have drafted 2 backs with the best overall speed score in a draft class . Andre Brown and Brandon Jacobs


I prefer Lamar Miller between the 2 personally. Wilson is my 4th rated RB

giantsfan420
03-16-2012, 08:23 PM
Lamar Miller had the best Speed score from the class.Its a metric that calculates speed/weight. the Giants have drafted 2 backs with the best overall speed score in a draft class . Andre Brown and Brandon Jacobs


I prefer Lamar Miller between the 2 personally. Wilson is my 4th rated RB

same here. i say whoever drops to our pick in the 2nd round is who we should take. i wouldnt be surprised if one of miller/david/martin is there at 64.

stumms
03-16-2012, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the info sounds like we should trade down and get to 2nds and take a rb later on.

myles2424
03-16-2012, 10:08 PM
Lamar Miller had the best Speed score from the class.Its a metric that calculates speed/weight. the Giants have drafted 2 backs with the best overall speed score in a draft class . Andre Brown and Brandon Jacobs


I prefer Lamar Miller between the 2 personally. Wilson is my 4th rated RB

same here. i say whoever drops to our pick in the 2nd round is who we should take. i wouldnt be surprised if one of miller/david/martin is there at 64. I predict Wilson late 1st, miller early 2nd, Martin mid 2nd.....I'd love to trade back,get extra 3rd, pick up Martin wth our first pick...

BlueSanta
03-16-2012, 11:55 PM
There are things to like about both. I like Miller's north south style, and I like Wilsons consistent production and open field running, as well as his kick returning.

gmen0820
03-16-2012, 11:56 PM
I'd love to trade back,get extra 3rd, pick up Martin wth our first pick...That would be perfect.

Neverend
03-17-2012, 01:02 AM
Miller doesn't run with a low center of gravity like all of the best RBs in the NFL and goes down very easy on initial contact subsequently not getting many yards after contact. Has some bust/disappointment potential to me if fans have expectations of him being an elite RB in the NFL

I like David Wilson better. He actually runs low to the ground, has great balance, doesn't let himself get arm tackled in the hole by defensive lineman, and plays big/pushes the pile. I'm not a fan of his vision, as he needs to be more disciplined as a runner and take with the defense gives him while not running out of control. But Wilson has a lot more significant advantages over Miller as I mentioned which gives him the edge here

BluGiantPies
03-17-2012, 02:04 AM
Neither Doug martin or bust. Then after Bradshaw gets injured next year again we can cut him in the of season and save that cap space to resign nicks/Cruz/jpp/tuck/Phillips. And I love me some Bradshaw but that 4 million were gonna need to re up our core players. Trading down is an idea I favour. Getting extra choices pay the player less and proavley still getting a player we have a first round grade on knowing Reese.

BlueSanta
03-17-2012, 02:26 AM
Neither Doug martin or bust. Then after Bradshaw gets injured next year again we can cut him in the of season and save that cap space to resign nicks/Cruz/jpp/tuck/Phillips. And I love me some Bradshaw but that 4 million were gonna need to re up our core players. Trading down is an idea I favour. Getting extra choices pay the player less and proavley still getting a player we have a first round grade on knowing Reese.

Martin, Wilson and Miller are all good in their own way. But, its no Rb in this draft is a "take him or bust" guy because the class is so deep.

And whoever we draft will be here to compliment Bradshaw moreso than replace him. If we draft someone, it is to replace Jacobs.

titwio
03-17-2012, 04:34 AM
Not a Miller fan. Wilson plays with anger, passion and goes all out with his opportunities. Great character guy and is the better overall athlete and leader IMO. He's faster than the time he recorded...A lot of people were surprised with how he timed at the combine but if you watch him in pads and his game speed there's not a lot than can catch him when he reaches the second level.

I'd take Wilson over Miller in a heartbeat. I think he'll make the better Professional as well...He handles himself really well and when it comes to football the man is all business. Wilson was the only guy to show up at the combine to meet with teams dressed in a suit and tie. Sounds like Giants material to me.

nycsportzfan
03-17-2012, 06:40 AM
Neither Doug martin or bust. Then after Bradshaw gets injured next year again we can cut him in the of season and save that cap space to resign nicks/Cruz/jpp/tuck/Phillips. And I love me some Bradshaw but that 4 million were gonna need to re up our core players. Trading down is an idea I favour. Getting extra choices pay the player less and proavley still getting a player we have a first round grade on knowing Reese.

Martin, Wilson and Miller are all good in their own way. But, its no Rb in this draft is a "take him or bust" guy because the class is so deep.

And whoever we draft will be here to compliment Bradshaw moreso than replace him. If we draft someone, it is to replace Jacobs.

To be honest, i woulden't say the RB that we pick won't possibly be our feature back sooner then later, possibly in a yr or 2, and who knows if not sooner with Bradshaws brittle feet.. kinda similar to how we watched Bradshaw take the starting gig over from BJ.. Bradshaw could be in a simialr spiral from Starting Stud to Solid Second RB as we speak, similar to Jacobs when Bradshaw started showing he was just to good to be behind BJ..

nycsportzfan
03-17-2012, 06:42 AM
Both are electric runners , & have outstanding burst off the snap .. Miller in my mind , is the more complete back, but Wilson is more physical & will break more tackles at the next level.. I would be happy with either 1 .. Pairing either of the these guys or even Doug Martin, out of Boise State with Bradshaw would make our offense MUCH more dangerous than it all ready is personally I'd rather trade back a few spots & get a extra pick/Doug Martin.... Ya, I'd rather Martin as well, and to be honest, i'd rather wait unless its martin, and get a guy like Robert Turbin, Bernard Pierce, Vick Ballard, Terrance Ganaway later on, then go early on Wilson or Miller...

quan the don
03-17-2012, 10:47 AM
Lamar MIller easy IMO. Wilson has a fumbling problem, and Doug Martin just seems average at everything.

Redeyejedi
03-17-2012, 11:06 AM
Both are electric runners , & have outstanding burst off the snap .. Miller in my mind , is the more complete back, but Wilson is more physical & will break more tackles at the next level.. I would be happy with either 1 .. Pairing either of the these guys or even Doug Martin, out of Boise State with Bradshaw would make our offense MUCH more dangerous than it all ready is personally I'd rather trade back a few spots & get a extra pick/Doug Martin....* Ya, I'd rather Martin as well, and* to be honest, i'd rather wait unless its martin, and get a guy like Robert Turbin, Bernard Pierce, Vick Ballard, Terrance Ganaway* later on, then go early on Wilson or Miller...What this guy said

nycsportzfan
03-17-2012, 02:29 PM
Lamar MIller easy IMO. Wilson has a fumbling problem, and Doug Martin just seems average at everything. If Doug Martin is averege at all he does, u got to high of standards.. What more do u want from a back, then a guy who can return kicks back to the house, and catch the ball extremely fluildly, block, great balance, bruiser but also can break one..etc The dudes freaking awesome!

TheEnigma
03-17-2012, 02:43 PM
Lamar MIller easy IMO. Wilson has a fumbling problem, and Doug Martin just seems average at everything. If Doug Martin is averege* at* all he does, u got to high of standards.. What more do u want from a back, then a guy who can return kicks back to the house, and catch the ball extremely fluildly, block,* great balance,* bruiser but also can break one..etc* The dudes freaking awesome!You know he's got to have potential when Emmitt Smith himself said he likes what the kid brings to the table.

Neverend
03-17-2012, 02:52 PM
Lamar MIller easy IMO. Wilson has a fumbling problem, and Doug Martin just seems average at everything.

Disagree. He is very good in all aspects of the game.. literally everything while having an elite burst and balance. So you got a back that has those two elite qualities and everything else about his game is at least very good. At worst, you have a very solid rb in the nfl

Lamar miller is very average in a few aspects of his game like his balance, pad level, getting tripped up on potential big runs, going down easily on first contact, I could keep going on... but we are all entitled to our opinions

nycsportzfan
03-17-2012, 02:57 PM
Lamar MIller easy IMO. Wilson has a fumbling problem, and Doug Martin just seems average at everything. If Doug Martin is averege at all he does, u got to high of standards.. What more do u want from a back, then a guy who can return kicks back to the house, and catch the ball extremely fluildly, block, great balance, bruiser but also can break one..etc The dudes freaking awesome!You know he's got to have potential when Emmitt Smith himself said he likes what the kid brings to the table. Ya, i knew and called it, that Doug Martin was gonna fly up draft boards, which he has since i made that comment, so its no surprise to me that people are really liking this guy, including HOF back Emmitt Smith...

BlueSanta
03-18-2012, 01:27 AM
Neither Doug martin or bust. Then after Bradshaw gets injured next year again we can cut him in the of season and save that cap space to resign nicks/Cruz/jpp/tuck/Phillips. And I love me some Bradshaw but that 4 million were gonna need to re up our core players. Trading down is an idea I favour. Getting extra choices pay the player less and proavley still getting a player we have a first round grade on knowing Reese.

Martin, Wilson and Miller are all good in their own way. But, its no Rb in this draft is a "take him or bust" guy because the class is so deep.

And whoever we draft will be here to compliment Bradshaw moreso than replace him. If we draft someone, it is to replace Jacobs.

To be honest, i woulden't say the RB that we pick won't possibly be our feature back sooner then later, possibly in a yr or 2, and who knows if not sooner with Bradshaws brittle feet.. kinda similar to how we watched Bradshaw take the starting gig over from BJ.. Bradshaw could be in a simialr spiral from Starting Stud to Solid Second RB as we speak, similar to Jacobs when Bradshaw started showing he was just to good to be behind BJ..

Of course, eventually he may replace AB. But atm we need a compliment.

giantman8493
03-18-2012, 01:33 AM
Both are electric runners , & have outstanding burst off the snap .. Miller in my mind , is the more complete back, but Wilson is more physical & will break more tackles at the next level.. I would be happy with either 1 .. Pairing either of the these guys or even Doug Martin, out of Boise State with Bradshaw would make our offense MUCH more dangerous than it all ready is personally I'd rather trade back a few spots & get a extra pick/Doug Martin....DOUG MARTIN +1

heavyhitter
03-18-2012, 02:24 AM
<font size="2">Would love for the Giants to go after one of these backs but just don't see it happening. I like the way Wilson carries himself on and off the field, that whole suit and tie thing at the combine says something about him. It's close but I just think Lamar Miller is a better all around prospect and will do big things in the NFL if he stays healthy. </font>