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LT_was_good
03-19-2012, 08:59 AM
Yes, it's a few years away, but it's also a slow time of year so we're allowed to ponder.

I was reading this article about cliff Avril: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b1769/article/lions-de-avril-reportedly-far-apart-in-contract-talks?module=HP11_headline_stack

Avril has 30 sacks in 4 years, and the Lions are "far apart" in negotiating a long-term deal after franchising him. JPP has 21.5 sacks in 2 years. Let's say he has 40 by the end of his contract (could be a lot more if he stays healthy). Seems like the Giants will need to prepare to make JPP the highest paid defensive player in league history (until the next big contract comes along the next season) when he hits free agency.

bLuereverie
03-19-2012, 09:00 AM
More than Mario Williams

egyptian420
03-19-2012, 09:03 AM
Whatever it will be, he will be worth every penny. I am definitely not looking forward to that day lol, although I am happy for him.

RagTime Blue
03-19-2012, 09:09 AM
I'm not really an expert on contracts (I really couldn't care less), but I'll say that if he commands that kind of big bucks, it'll be because he's worth it.

So I hope he gets it.

Flip Empty
03-19-2012, 09:35 AM
Well the five-year contract he signed in 2010 is worth around 20 million all up. Provided his play doesn't drop off, that number could be closer to what he'll pull in each year once he inks a new deal.

Scary to think about.

TuckYou
03-19-2012, 10:01 AM
Going to be most likely the most ever if he continues at this pace, but it will be worth it for this team since DE is our heart and soul to this team on defense.

CDN_G-FAN
03-19-2012, 10:08 AM
Yes, it's a few years away, but it's also a slow time of year so we're allowed to ponder.

I was reading this article about cliff Avril: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b1769/article/lions-de-avril-reportedly-far-apart-in-contract-talks?module=HP11_headline_stack

Avril has 30 sacks in 4 years, and the Lions are "far apart" in negotiating a long-term deal after franchising him. JPP has 21.5 sacks in 2 years. Let's say he has 40 by the end of his contract (could be a lot more if he stays healthy). Seems like the Giants will need to prepare to make JPP the highest paid defensive player in league history (until the next big contract comes along the next season) when he hits free agency.
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that question highlights very nicely why a team with cap challenges can't afford Tuck, JPP, and Osi.</P>


It just can't.</P>


Based on current market prices and assuming cruz remains as productive as he was in his first year, our QB, two starting WRs, and two starting DEs could account for 40% of a $130 million cap.</P>


Each one of those players mentioned are getting $10 million + per season on the open market.</P>


And Eli's worth probably more than $15 million.</P>

jhamburg
03-19-2012, 10:09 AM
Well the five-year contract he signed in 2010 is worth around 20 million all up. Provided his play doesn't drop off, that number could be closer to what he'll pull in each year once he inks a new deal.

Scary to think about.

It might not be the end of the world. If you think about it, Eli will be getting towards the later years of his career by the time JPP signs. If his contract is back loaded in terms of the cap number, Eli may be gone by the time the real pain hits.

Not that that's a good thing in any way, just saying.

burier
03-19-2012, 10:57 AM
More than Mario Williams

+1

Its starting to feel like the Bills like to suck.

iBleedBlue88
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
Yes, it's a few years away, but it's also a slow time of year so we're allowed to ponder.

I was reading this article about cliff Avril: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b1769/article/lions-de-avril-reportedly-far-apart-in-contract-talks?module=HP11_headline_stack

Avril has 30 sacks in 4 years, and the Lions are "far apart" in negotiating a long-term deal after franchising him.* JPP has 21.5 sacks in 2 years.* Let's say he has 40 by the end of his contract (could be a lot more if he stays healthy).* Seems like the Giants will need to prepare to make JPP the highest paid defensive player in league history (until the next big contract comes along the next season) when he hits free agency.
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that question highlights very nicely why a team with cap challenges can't afford Tuck, JPP, and Osi.</P>


It just can't.</P>


Based on current market prices and assuming cruz remains as productive as he was in his first year, our QB, two starting WRs, and two starting DEs could account for 40% of a $130 million cap.</P>


Each one of those players mentioned are getting $10 million + per season on the open market.</P>


And Eli's worth probably more than $15 million.*</P>


Good thing in 2014 the cap is gonna take a HUGE jump thanks to hte new TV deal, so it wont be as much of a challenge to keep all of them.

foosball
03-19-2012, 04:19 PM
More than Mario Williams

Not more than what Buffalo paid him though. He's going to cost a legit 10-12 mil per year. He's going to cost QB money. Giants might be able to get him for 9-10. I'm hoping anyway.

gmen0820
03-19-2012, 04:27 PM
Look, it's gonna happen. I know it's gonna happen, NY knows its gonna happen and JPP knows it's gonna happen.

We have to start preparing for JPP to become the cornerstone, the Eli Manning on our defense. At the earliest time the Giants detect JPP can accelerate his play to his fullest as well as the defenses, I'm sure JPP will be rewarded very, very handsomely.

jhamburg
03-19-2012, 04:29 PM
More than Mario Williams

Not more than what Buffalo paid him though.* He's going to cost a legit 10-12 mil per year.* He's going to cost QB money.* Giants might be able to get him for 9-10.* I'm hoping anyway.


If he doesn't have any down years, continues to improve and doesn't get hurt?

I'm thinking 8 years, $150 million, $70 guaranteed.

Yeah, that big.

Flip Empty
03-19-2012, 04:30 PM
Well the five-year contract he signed in 2010 is worth around 20 million all up. Provided his play doesn't drop off, that number could be closer to what he'll pull in each year once he inks a new deal.

Scary to think about.

It might not be the end of the world. If you think about it, Eli will be getting towards the later years of his career by the time JPP signs. If his contract is back loaded in terms of the cap number, Eli may be gone by the time the real pain hits.

Not that that's a good thing in any way, just saying.
Eli will earn $9 million this season and $20 million in each of his final three years. His contract expires the year after JPP's.

Desepx
03-19-2012, 04:51 PM
Truth hurts:

If he isn't willing to accept an honest, fair contract when the time comes, I hope we trade him instead of have our salary cap weighed down and plagued for years to come. Bottom line is, he shouldn't be making Eli type money, argue with me if you want but thats the truth.

He's an amazing player and on the path to the hof and it would pain me to lose him, especially since he's one of my favorite giants, but hey, this is a business and you always gotta go with the best move. We can win without him, and he can be replaced to a certainnnnnn extent. The team would miss him dearly, but they would miss Eli more.

If we dump him off while hes in his prime, is it unreasonable to expect a deal similiar to what the Rams just got?

Think about it...would you trade JPP for three first round picks and a second round pick? I would in a heartbeat...especially because of the cap room we would save/gain.

inb4hate

BigBlue9280
03-19-2012, 11:48 PM
I think by the time the Giants begin renegotiating, the salary cap will be much higher after the 2014 TV contracts kick in, and we will be able to absorb the large cap hit he is going to command, which will probably be in the neighborhood of $18 million per season. Guys who are capable of getting 15+ sacks a season are anything but a dime a dozen. They aren't like running backs where you can find capable players in free agency and later rounds in the draft. Defensive end/ pass rushing outside linebacker have become these glorious positions because they are THE biggest game changers on defense. JPP has the gift, and those kind of guys in the NFL can be counted on one hand. Al Davis may have done the Giants the biggest favor in recent memory by taking Rolando McClain 8th overall in 2010. The rest is history, the Giants rolled the dice, and drafted the H-W-S player with very little college experience at number 15. Little did any of us know that we would be getting a player that would be more suited to be drafted in the top 3 picks. God willing, he stays healthy, and beasts every NFL left tackle from now until he retires in 15 years. In the words of John Malkovich in Rounders, "Pay that man his money."

JJC7301
03-19-2012, 11:50 PM
The sooner that we can get him signed, the better and cheaper for the Giants.