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RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 12:29 PM
GIANTS REACH OUT TO LINEBACKER CHASE BLACKBURN (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/22/new-york-giants-reach-out-to-linebacker-chase-blackburn/)

"Contrary to earlier reports that the team would not look to re-sign (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/02/chase-blackburn-drawing-lots-of-interest-but-none-from-new-york-giants/) <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a>, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants reached out (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609533477208065) to the linebacker on Wednesday as their primary
option, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jonathan Goff" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jonathan-goff/" rel="tag nofollow">Jonathan
Goff</a>, was in Cleveland visiting with the Browns (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/21/new-york-giants-free-agents-jonathan-goff-and-dave-tollefson-visiting-other-teams/).



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A source told Jeff Roberts of The Record that while Blackburn "is pursuing
other options," he remains "very much interested (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609748246536192)" in a potential return to Big Blue.</p>


The team has strongly maintained that their primary goal is to re-sign Goff
and have him start at middle linebacker next season, so this could merely be a
power-play aimed at putting pressure on him. However, Blackburn is a solid
secondary option with the market for middle linebackers dwindling (Stephen
Tulloch recently re-signed with the Detroit Lions).</p>


After being signed as a street free agent last season, Blackburn collected 26
tackles and one interception in five regular season games. He added an
additional 26 tackles and one huge interception (Super Bowl XLVI) in the
playoffs. Goff, meanwhile, spend the season rehabbing after tearing his ACL in
early September."</p>

G-Man67
03-22-2012, 12:33 PM
he really played well and was always a good STer in the event we end up signing and starting Goff, but obviously there are only so many roster spots and we want to be able to sign all or most of our draft picks

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 12:34 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then

giantsfan420
03-22-2012, 12:35 PM
very good backup plan if goff goes elsewhere, he could even be potentially more cost effective towards the cap, and signing him doesnt limit us taking a mlb in the draft where as signing goff to some sort of deal could have allowed the giants to believe their mlb issue would be resolved

GGTM_1977
03-22-2012, 12:38 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

NewYorkSwagg
03-22-2012, 12:53 PM
This would be a good pick up for special teams and a back up LB, give Mark Herzlich a chance at the position.

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 12:57 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


Yes, but what matters is who comes out of camp as the starter

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 12:58 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?

Kruunch
03-22-2012, 12:59 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 01:04 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't

GGTM_1977
03-22-2012, 01:04 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?


BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 01:06 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


Yes, but what matters is who comes out of camp as the starter


no i know, but this just goes back a few weeks to when me and burier were debating about Blackburn. He said the only reason he was a starter was because of injury, which wasn't true. He then said that Chase shouldn't of been considered our starting LBers last year even though he started more games at MLB than anybody else for us and finished the season of a superbowl win as our starter...

He then said he wouldn't come into camp as a starter this year even if we did sign him, which we won't

I agreed with him that we wouldn't sign Chase if we signed Goff... but this was like a 10 page debate

GMENAGAIN
03-22-2012, 01:08 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?
BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....</P>


I still don't get this, since it appears that they were right that Goff was the team's first choice and that they are looking to CB now only because it looks like Goff could go elsewhere . . . . what am I missing here?</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 01:08 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 01:09 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?


BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....

Goff will be the starting MLB if they sign him, that hasn't changed. Blackburn, at the moment, is an insurance policy. It's nothing more than a business strategy right now.

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 01:10 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?


BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....

well in all fairness, we did try to get Goff over Chase.

And this very well may be a pressure tactic to get Goff to sign

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 01:10 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.


Sure, use logic as an argument [:S]

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 01:11 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Then at least give us their initials

Kruunch
03-22-2012, 01:11 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.


Did I forget the red font again?

Seriously though, Chase is a great guy and a nice talent off the bench and on ST, but as a full time starter, I can see opposing offenses running no huddles just to keep him on the field.

He's a 2 down backer at best and I don't think his motor would hold up for an entire season as a starter.

But there is every chance that he continues to play a back up role if Herzlich starts getting back to his BC days form (which I'm hearing he is).

Good signing if it happens, but I think you're looking more at depth with Blackburn then a full time starter for the whole year (imo).

burier
03-22-2012, 01:18 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 01:22 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

lol cuz we debated 3 10 page threeads about it over the past month

negatory, ur debate was that he shouldn't of been considered our starter last year as well..

i said he earned the spot with his play - u disagreed

burier
03-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

lol cuz we debated 3 10 page threeads about it over the past month

negatory, ur debate was that he shouldn't of been considered our starter last year as well..

i said he earned the spot with his play - u disagreed




Right.

But if he starts and stinks the joint up...shouldn't you be the one eating crow?

I'm saying he didn't earn anythng...and he shouldn't start. The Giants can disagree with me. They do all sorts of stuff that I hate. (Lol just noticed I refer to the Giants as "they" when they do things I disagree with.. Weird habit.)

Sign Keith Bullock,

Sign Lavar Arrington

Hire Bill Sheridan

Rush three on 3rd and long

I can keep going.

Who knows what the Giants will do. I've been screaming for a linebacker for the longest.

But I do believe if Chase or even Goff is the starter this year its a mistake.

hungrrrry
03-22-2012, 01:35 PM
GIANTS REACH OUT TO LINEBACKER CHASE BLACKBURN (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/22/new-york-giants-reach-out-to-linebacker-chase-blackburn/)

"Contrary to earlier reports that the team would not look to re-sign (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/02/chase-blackburn-drawing-lots-of-interest-but-none-from-new-york-giants/) <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a>, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants reached out (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609533477208065) to the linebacker on Wednesday as their primary
option, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jonathan Goff" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jonathan-goff/" rel="tag nofollow">Jonathan
Goff</a>, was in Cleveland visiting with the Browns (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/21/new-york-giants-free-agents-jonathan-goff-and-dave-tollefson-visiting-other-teams/).



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants middle linebacker <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a> (93) celebrates stopping the Atlanta Falcons on a play in the
second half during their NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) NFC wildcard playoff football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) game in East Rutherford, New Jersey, January 8,
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A source told Jeff Roberts of The Record that while Blackburn "is pursuing
other options," he remains "very much interested (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609748246536192)" in a potential return to Big Blue.</p>


The team has strongly maintained that their primary goal is to re-sign Goff
and have him start at middle linebacker next season, so this could merely be a
power-play aimed at putting pressure on him. However, Blackburn is a solid
secondary option with the market for middle linebackers dwindling (Stephen
Tulloch recently re-signed with the Detroit Lions).</p>


After being signed as a street free agent last season, Blackburn collected 26
tackles and one interception in five regular season games. He added an
additional 26 tackles and one huge interception (Super Bowl XLVI) in the
playoffs. Goff, meanwhile, spend the season rehabbing after tearing his ACL in
early September."</p>Doesn't seem so much like speculation anymore, does it Ro? Though, indeed, no mention of a contract offer to Goff has been made public.

Blackburn will help get Jones ready

TrueBlue@NYC
03-22-2012, 01:43 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then
I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.
Did I forget the red font again? Seriously though, Chase is a great guy and a nice talent off the bench and on ST, but as a full time starter, I can see opposing offenses running no huddles just to keep him on the field. He's a 2 down backer at best and I don't think his motor would hold up for an entire season as a starter. But there is every chance that he continues to play a back up role if Herzlich starts getting back to his BC days form (which I'm hearing he is). Good signing if it happens, but I think you're looking more at depth with Blackburn then a full time starter for the whole year (imo).</P>


If we don't resign Goff, and end up signign CB, then he definitly goes into camp as the starter. He's already shown to be a competent, if not impactful, starter in the past. </P>


Also, you criticize him as a "two down Lber", meanhile that's all Goff was in 2010. Our whole 3 safety set started b/c they had to take Goff out on passing downs in 2010. So he's "only" a two down LBer as well. </P>


Also,no matter who our MLB is going to be they're coming off on passing downs anyway b/c Boley and J. Williams are our Nickle LBers. And Williams really started exceling in that role towards the end of the year. </P>

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 02:04 PM
GIANTS REACH OUT TO LINEBACKER CHASE BLACKBURN (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/22/new-york-giants-reach-out-to-linebacker-chase-blackburn/)

"Contrary to earlier reports that the team would not look to re-sign (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/02/chase-blackburn-drawing-lots-of-interest-but-none-from-new-york-giants/) <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a>, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants reached out (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609533477208065) to the linebacker on Wednesday as their primary
option, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jonathan Goff" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jonathan-goff/" rel="tag nofollow">Jonathan
Goff</a>, was in Cleveland visiting with the Browns (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/21/new-york-giants-free-agents-jonathan-goff-and-dave-tollefson-visiting-other-teams/).



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants middle linebacker <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a> (93) celebrates stopping the Atlanta Falcons on a play in the
second half during their NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) NFC wildcard playoff football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) game in East Rutherford, New Jersey, January 8,
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A source told Jeff Roberts of The Record that while Blackburn "is pursuing
other options," he remains "very much interested (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609748246536192)" in a potential return to Big Blue.</p>


The team has strongly maintained that their primary goal is to re-sign Goff
and have him start at middle linebacker next season, so this could merely be a
power-play aimed at putting pressure on him. However, Blackburn is a solid
secondary option with the market for middle linebackers dwindling (Stephen
Tulloch recently re-signed with the Detroit Lions).</p>


After being signed as a street free agent last season, Blackburn collected 26
tackles and one interception in five regular season games. He added an
additional 26 tackles and one huge interception (Super Bowl XLVI) in the
playoffs. Goff, meanwhile, spend the season rehabbing after tearing his ACL in
early September."</p>Doesn't seem so much like speculation anymore, does it Ro? Though, indeed, no mention of a contract offer to Goff has been made public.

Blackburn will help get Jones ready

What doesn't seem like speculation?

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 02:34 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

lol cuz we debated 3 10 page threeads about it over the past month

negatory, ur debate was that he shouldn't of been considered our starter last year as well..

i said he earned the spot with his play - u disagreed




Right.

But if he starts and stinks the joint up...shouldn't you be the one eating crow?

I'm saying he didn't earn anythng...and he shouldn't start. The Giants can disagree with me. They do all sorts of stuff that I hate. (Lol just noticed I refer to the Giants as "they" when they do things I disagree with.. Weird habit.)

Sign Keith Bullock,

Sign Lavar Arrington

Hire Bill Sheridan

Rush three on 3rd and long

I can keep going.

Who knows what the Giants will do. I've been screaming for a linebacker for the longest.

But I do believe if Chase or even Goff is the starter this year its a mistake.

no not at all...

saying he deserves to go into the season as our starter and maintaining that level of play are two different things.

I would prefer Goff because I think he has more upside but thats my point is that he should start and its his job to lose if we go with him

buddy33
03-22-2012, 02:52 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Really? What did I say? Must have been something you remembered to bring me into this. Please let me know because I don't think I said anything bad about the man.

plaxattack17
03-22-2012, 02:59 PM
Without Chase we don't win it all. If i had the choice between the two, i go Chase.

GameTime
03-22-2012, 03:02 PM
great back up and can play as a starter for a handful of games. Totally want him on the roster with the hopes of the Giants FINALLY getting a legit MLB that can be around for a few freaking years..</P>


Is Goff that guy??....If they thought so he wouldn't be in Cleveland.....</P>

Kruunch
03-22-2012, 03:12 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then
I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.
Did I forget the red font again? Seriously though, Chase is a great guy and a nice talent off the bench and on ST, but as a full time starter, I can see opposing offenses running no huddles just to keep him on the field. He's a 2 down backer at best and I don't think his motor would hold up for an entire season as a starter. But there is every chance that he continues to play a back up role if Herzlich starts getting back to his BC days form (which I'm hearing he is). Good signing if it happens, but I think you're looking more at depth with Blackburn then a full time starter for the whole year (imo).</P>


If we don't resign Goff, and end up signign CB, then he definitly goes into camp as the starter. He's already shown to be a competent, if not impactful, starter in the past. </P>


Also, you criticize him as a "two down Lber", meanhile that's all Goff was in 2010. Our whole 3 safety set started b/c they had to take Goff out on passing downs in 2010. So he's "only" a two down LBer as well. </P>


Also,*no matter who our MLB is going to be they're coming off on passing downs anyway b/c Boley and J. Williams are our Nickle LBers. And Williams really started exceling in that role towards the end of the year. </P>

True ... but I feel less exposed with Goff at MLB then Chase (which isn't saying much I realize).

Having said that, Chase did get more snaps in the Super Bowl then either Kiwi or JWill so who knows.

I do know that the Giants aren't high on Chase in a starting capacity, hence their lack of interest last year (in signing him at all) or their initial lack of initerest this year.

Considering they've seen the most of him, I'd say that was pretty telling.

Kruunch
03-22-2012, 03:13 PM
great back up and can play as a starter for a handful of games. Totally want him on the roster with the hopes of the Giants FINALLY getting a legit MLB that can be around for a few freaking years..</P>


Is Goff that guy??....If they thought so he wouldn't be in Cleveland.....</P>

I think Goff saw what the Giants did for T2 and was expecting something more along those lines and the Giants are thinking more like what they did for Kiwi (with less money).

TuckYou
03-22-2012, 03:15 PM
Ha! After all the talking in here about Chase, he is going to come back and be our starting MLB. Love the dude. Great attittude, great smarts, knows the position and is versitile. Could we do better? Absolutely. Hopefully Kuechley or Hightower falls to 32, or Kendricks to 64. Otherwise it is Chase or Goff. </P>


We really dont care about LBs anymore. Plug and play.</P>

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 03:52 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Really? What did I say? Must have been something you remembered to bring me into this. Please let me know because I don't think I said anything bad about the man.

maybe i was off, but coulda swore u were the other guy i was debating....

burier
03-22-2012, 04:12 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

lol cuz we debated 3 10 page threeads about it over the past month

negatory, ur debate was that he shouldn't of been considered our starter last year as well..

i said he earned the spot with his play - u disagreed




Right.

But if he starts and stinks the joint up...shouldn't you be the one eating crow?

I'm saying he didn't earn anythng...and he shouldn't start. The Giants can disagree with me. They do all sorts of stuff that I hate. (Lol just noticed I refer to the Giants as "they" when they do things I disagree with.. Weird habit.)

Sign Keith Bullock,

Sign Lavar Arrington

Hire Bill Sheridan

Rush three on 3rd and long

I can keep going.

Who knows what the Giants will do. I've been screaming for a linebacker for the longest.

But I do believe if Chase or even Goff is the starter this year its a mistake.

no not at all...

saying he deserves to go into the season as our starter and maintaining that level of play are two different things.

I would prefer Goff because I think he has more upside but thats my point is that he should start and its his job to lose if we go with him


Gah...I think I misunderstood you.

You know what...I actually find your vantage point on football to be kind of sweet and refreshing.

Its like Chase got an INT in the Superbowl so we should let him start. Its kinda like The Rudy...from Notre Dame.

He works hard so let him play.

Thats really nice. If the Giants let him start I'll be really happy for him he seems like a nice guy.

However I actually want to win games so with that in mind I don't think he should be starting.

MattMeyerBud
03-22-2012, 04:29 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

haha i won't name the names of burier and buddy33, i won't


Its sooo funny because as soon as I saw the guy post about eating crow I knew my name was going to come up.

I'll take the time to remind everyone of my position.

I think Chase is a poor option to be a full time starter for the Giants.

I never made a predicition regarding what the Giants would actually do so if they sign him and start him I have nothing to eat crow about. It would be my worst nightmare but not crow worthy.

Now should they sign him start him and he sets the world on fire and plays well I'll gladly eat crow.

Just to be clear.

lol cuz we debated 3 10 page threeads about it over the past month

negatory, ur debate was that he shouldn't of been considered our starter last year as well..

i said he earned the spot with his play - u disagreed




Right.

But if he starts and stinks the joint up...shouldn't you be the one eating crow?

I'm saying he didn't earn anythng...and he shouldn't start. The Giants can disagree with me. They do all sorts of stuff that I hate. (Lol just noticed I refer to the Giants as "they" when they do things I disagree with.. Weird habit.)

Sign Keith Bullock,

Sign Lavar Arrington

Hire Bill Sheridan

Rush three on 3rd and long

I can keep going.

Who knows what the Giants will do. I've been screaming for a linebacker for the longest.

But I do believe if Chase or even Goff is the starter this year its a mistake.

no not at all...

saying he deserves to go into the season as our starter and maintaining that level of play are two different things.

I would prefer Goff because I think he has more upside but thats my point is that he should start and its his job to lose if we go with him


Gah...I think I misunderstood you.

You know what...I actually find your vantage point on football to be kind of sweet and refreshing.

Its like Chase got an INT in the Superbowl so we should let him start. Its kinda like The Rudy...from Notre Dame.

He works hard so let him play.

Thats really nice. If the Giants let him start I'll be really happy for him he seems like a nice guy.

However I actually want to win games so with that in mind I don't think he should be starting.

since he got on the team vs GB in the reg season, his production overall has earned him the spot through to the superbowl

buddy33
03-22-2012, 04:50 PM
I did say that I hope there is a way for him to make the team, but I also think they need an upgrade at the position. By hi own admission he is slow. Great effort guy.

Herzlich looked I'm for a FA that had no OTA's and a shortened camp. Maybe he can also help at the position. Maybe they draft a guy.

TuckYou
03-22-2012, 06:02 PM
I did say that I hope there is a way for him to make the team, but I also think they need an upgrade at the position. By hi own admission he is slow. Great effort guy. Herzlich looked I'm for a FA that had no OTA's and a shortened camp. Maybe he can also help at the position. Maybe they draft a guy.</P>


Not sure what that meant, but Herzlich is basically Blackburn without experience IMO. Yeah, he would of been way better if not for the cancer, but right now, he is as slow if not slower then Chase. Not really an upgrade. </P>

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 06:06 PM
I did say that I hope there is a way for him to make the team, but I also think they need an upgrade at the position. By hi own admission he is slow. Great effort guy. Herzlich looked I'm for a FA that had no OTA's and a shortened camp. Maybe he can also help at the position. Maybe they draft a guy.</p>


Not sure what that meant, but Herzlich is basically Blackburn without experience IMO. Yeah, he would of been way better if not for the cancer, but right now, he is as slow if not slower then Chase. Not really an upgrade. </p>

For this season, I'd like to see Goff and Blackburn in rotation while we continue to develop Herzlich, Williams, and Jones.

Axels15
03-22-2012, 06:15 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then


I disagree. I believe there will be a competition if that happens

nygfan0816
03-22-2012, 06:17 PM
this is good news imo.

chase > goff, coming off an alc injury, who knows how good goff will be. chase played great when he came back and had a real good playoff run.

i actually wouldnt mind him as a starter until herzlich or jones developes better.

chase is also real good on special teams so thats a big plus.

TrueBlue@NYC
03-22-2012, 07:13 PM
soooo

if we dont' get Goff and sign Blackburn... does anybody disagree that he goes into camp as our starter?


alrighty then
I think if this happens, the Nickel package becomes our default defense.

what we will run on defense has more to do with who we are playing, what they like to do, what is their tendencies, and what package they have on the field.
Did I forget the red font again? Seriously though, Chase is a great guy and a nice talent off the bench and on ST, but as a full time starter, I can see opposing offenses running no huddles just to keep him on the field. He's a 2 down backer at best and I don't think his motor would hold up for an entire season as a starter. But there is every chance that he continues to play a back up role if Herzlich starts getting back to his BC days form (which I'm hearing he is). Good signing if it happens, but I think you're looking more at depth with Blackburn then a full time starter for the whole year (imo).</P>


If we don't resign Goff, and end up signign CB, then he definitly goes into camp as the starter. He's already shown to be a competent, if not impactful, starter in the past. </P>


Also, you criticize him as a "two down Lber", meanhile that's all Goff was in 2010. Our whole 3 safety set started b/c they had to take Goff out on passing downs in 2010. So he's "only" a two down LBer as well. </P>


Also,no matter who our MLB is going to be they're coming off on passing downs anyway b/c Boley and J. Williams are our Nickle LBers. And Williams really started exceling in that role towards the end of the year. </P>


True ... but I feel less exposed with Goff at MLB then Chase (which isn't saying much I realize). Having said that, Chase did get more snaps in the Super Bowl then either Kiwi or JWill so who knows. I do know that the Giants aren't high on Chase in a starting capacity, hence their lack of interest last year (in signing him at all) or their initial lack of initerest this year. Considering they've seen the most of him, I'd say that was pretty telling.</P>


I don't anyone is arguing that the Giants would prefer to have Goff over CB. I think they feel that Goff and CB RIGHT NOW are comparable talents, but whereas Blackburn has probably hit his ceiling, Goff still has room to improve. </P>


The only thing I'm disagreeing with you on is that if they do sign CB instead of Goff that Blackburn doesn't go into training camp as the starter. He certainly does, but like all good teams, the Giants won't hand him the position and will give guys like Jones and Herz a chance to prove that they've developed enought to unseat Blackburn. </P>

TrueBlue@NYC
03-22-2012, 07:16 PM
I did say that I hope there is a way for him to make the team, but I also think they need an upgrade at the position. By hi own admission he is slow. Great effort guy. Herzlich looked I'm for a FA that had no OTA's and a shortened camp. Maybe he can also help at the position. Maybe they draft a guy.</P>


Not sure what that meant, but Herzlich is basically Blackburn without experience IMO. Yeah, he would of been way better if not for the cancer, but right now, he is as slow if not slower then Chase. Not really an upgrade. </P>




For this season, I'd like to see Goff and Blackburn in rotation while we continue to develop Herzlich, Williams, and Jones.
</P>


I don't think we'll have room cap wise or rister wise to keep both guys. Remember, besides the three you mentioned, the team also is looking to develop Tracy and Paysinger as well. There's only so many LBer spots open on the team. Heck, even with Goff on IR they still found no room for Blackburn, though that broved to be a mistake. </P>

cornerback30
03-22-2012, 07:56 PM
I for one don't mind bringing back Blackburn,I mean he played well in the post season,especially in the SB.The Giants should look to keep him,but that being said I would want a LB also that can be a run stopper and someone would can keep up with Witten and those other TEs who have given us trouble in times past.To have someone like that would only cause this defense to become even better.If Giants resign Blackburn wouldn't at all cause me to be upset in no way shape or form.Chase came in and gave us help when we needed it,dude didn't go to the papers and lashed out at this organization like some other players do when they have learned of their release.He kept it professional, now I'm sure he was upset about it but still took it in stride and stayed classy.PROPS

Harlem2va
03-22-2012, 08:24 PM
No he will not be the starter, either they draft a middle linebacker or Jones and the kid from BC battle for the job.

RoanokeFan
03-22-2012, 08:31 PM
I did say that I hope there is a way for him to make the team, but I also think they need an upgrade at the position. By hi own admission he is slow. Great effort guy. Herzlich looked I'm for a FA that had no OTA's and a shortened camp. Maybe he can also help at the position. Maybe they draft a guy.</p>


Not sure what that meant, but Herzlich is basically Blackburn without experience IMO. Yeah, he would of been way better if not for the cancer, but right now, he is as slow if not slower then Chase. Not really an upgrade. </p>




For this season, I'd like to see Goff and Blackburn in rotation while we continue to develop Herzlich, Williams, and Jones.
</p>


I don't think we'll have room cap wise or rister wise to keep both guys. Remember, besides the three you mentioned, the team also is looking to develop Tracy and Paysinger as well. There's only so many LBer spots open on the team. Heck, even with Goff on IR they still found no room for Blackburn, though that broved to be a mistake. </p>

Neither will be expensive (in NFL terms).

miked1958
03-22-2012, 09:14 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!
Not me.. I am a big chase backer. And for what he did for this team last season we should have already resigned him by now. We don't won some of those games leading up to playoffs and in playoffs without him IMO

nycisgreat
03-22-2012, 10:05 PM
GIANTS REACH OUT TO LINEBACKER CHASE BLACKBURN (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/22/new-york-giants-reach-out-to-linebacker-chase-blackburn/)

"Contrary to earlier reports that the team would not look to re-sign (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/02/chase-blackburn-drawing-lots-of-interest-but-none-from-new-york-giants/) <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chase Blackburn" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chase-blackburn/" rel="tag nofollow">Chase
Blackburn</a>, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants reached out (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609533477208065) to the linebacker on Wednesday as their primary
option, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jonathan Goff" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jonathan-goff/" rel="tag nofollow">Jonathan
Goff</a>, was in Cleveland visiting with the Browns (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/21/new-york-giants-free-agents-jonathan-goff-and-dave-tollefson-visiting-other-teams/).



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Blackburn</a> (93) celebrates stopping the Atlanta Falcons on a play in the
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A source told Jeff Roberts of The Record that while Blackburn "is pursuing
other options," he remains "very much interested (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheJRob/status/182609748246536192)" in a potential return to Big Blue.</p>


The team has strongly maintained that their primary goal is to re-sign Goff
and have him start at middle linebacker next season, so this could merely be a
power-play aimed at putting pressure on him. However, Blackburn is a solid
secondary option with the market for middle linebackers dwindling (Stephen
Tulloch recently re-signed with the Detroit Lions).</p>


After being signed as a street free agent last season, Blackburn collected 26
tackles and one interception in five regular season games. He added an
additional 26 tackles and one huge interception (Super Bowl XLVI) in the
playoffs. Goff, meanwhile, spend the season rehabbing after tearing his ACL in
early September."</p>

Sweet JESUS! lol. That is good news. I hope they can get a deal done. He needs to be back next season. He is a hard working player. Also, the guy is the ultimate cheerleader and motivator. I would be happy if he is back with big blue.

nhpgiantsfan
03-22-2012, 10:12 PM
Without Chase we don't win it all. If i had the choice between the two, i go Chase.


This statement is absolute nonsense!!! Why because he recovered a fumble in GB when we dominated the game from start to finish. Or because he won a jump ball against Gronk's one leg?

I know, I know, he boxed Gronk out.
Please it was a routine defensive play.

Breezely
03-22-2012, 10:54 PM
Chase is a baller. He let's his presence be known when he's on the field. I am not too sure about Goff. Both of them played well, once on the field but I love Chase's aggressiveness and his playmaking. Sometimes, MLB will get lost in the play when the O linemen hit the second level. I wonder the ratio of that happening with both players.

However, I prefer Boley over the both of them as a stater. Boley seems to have a good handle on calling the defense and putting the defense in position. We went through a bad stretch without him and then seem to toughen up defensively when he returned. I think Boley has to see the field.

nhpgiantsfan
03-22-2012, 11:01 PM
Agreed, Boley and Tuck getting healthy is the reason the defense took off from the Jet game through the playoffs.

Bigbluereckingcrew
03-23-2012, 09:35 PM
Without Chase we don't win it all. If i had the choice between the two, i go Chase.


TY....have been saying the samething. Something a guy like burier isn't taking into account is the heart factor. CB is all heart and for the record there r only a hand full of three down LBers in the entire leauge.

JJC7301
03-24-2012, 01:37 AM
I doubt that it would take much $$ to sign him and quite frankly, he had much more presence in the last 7 games of this previous season than Goff has had during his entire tenure with the Giants.

I don't hate Goff and find him to be serviceable (barely), but I just don't even see how the two compare in terms of who starts out of the two.

We draft a really good MIKE in the 1st or 2nd round? Great. Barring that, I want Blackburn back.

ANYONE, PLEASE NAME ONE GAME, JUST ONE, IN WHICH GOFF HAD THE SAME IMPACT AS BLACKBURN HAD IN ANY OF THE GAMES THAT HE PLAYED FOR US THIS PAST YEAR. NAME ONE.

NYGRealityCheck
03-24-2012, 11:48 AM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?


BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....

Goff will be the starting MLB if they sign him, that hasn't changed.* Blackburn, at the moment, is an insurance policy.* It's nothing more than a business strategy right now.


Bingo!

Albeit, Chase is a very good insurance policy...

Goff is visited the Browns and Tollefson visited the Seahawks.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/03/giants_free_agents_dave_tollef.html

As mid to low tier free agents, they're just trying to find places where they can get the most money or at least create some interest to drive up up their value.

I'm sure no one thinks Goff is looking for another winning team by visiting the Browns at this time. It's gotta be the $$$.

Bigbluereckingcrew
03-24-2012, 01:36 PM
Dude...seriously, if this comes to pass, if Goff sign elsewhere, and we bring back Chase, there are some people on this board that need to line up and eat some big time CROW!

Why is that?


BECAUSE....the contiuously diss Chase and what he has and can do for the team. Is he a MLB on caliber with Patrick Willis.......No. Can he run our defense competently and make stops......YES. Should we try and get young there...yeah sure, got no problem there. My beef is that soooo many people thought we would go Goff over Chase, and that we shouldn't even give Chase a shot, because Goff was a shoe in....

Goff will be the starting MLB if they sign him, that hasn't changed.* Blackburn, at the moment, is an insurance policy.* It's nothing more than a business strategy right now.


Bingo!

Albeit, Chase is a very good insurance policy...

Goff is visited the Browns and Tollefson visited the Seahawks.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/03/giants_free_agents_dave_tollef.html

As mid to low tier free agents, they're just trying to find places where they can get the most money or at least create some interest to drive up up their value.

I'm sure no one thinks Goff is looking for another winning team by visiting the Browns at this time. It's gotta be the $$$.

I say f-em, Goff wants to go else where than let him learn the that getting to a SB is very difficult, never the less winning it twice. Goff had nothing to do w/either of those wins but CB did and he WANTS to be here....I don't understand how there is even a debate

THE_New_York_Giants
03-24-2012, 01:49 PM
I have always liked Chase since he filled in for Antonio Pierce back in '05. Very underrated guy