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RoanokeFan
03-24-2012, 11:02 AM
FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/24/for-new-york-giants-head-coach-tom-coughlin-the-hot-seat-is-now-forever-cooled/)

"The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a>” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
It’s quiet on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants coaching front lately.

To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
was not bigger than his team.

Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
Giants football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/)
remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.

<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
(almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
of football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) in
2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.


One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
Tom’s focus is on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) Giants, not himself.</p>

SweetZombieJesus
03-24-2012, 11:51 AM
Well, there's no such thing in NY sports (Joe Torre wins 4 in 5 years and gets them in the playoffs 14 years in a row and he's gone).

But Coughlin's got a LONG leash and would have to screw up many, many years in a row for the seat to be hot again. I really thought Coughlin was on the Torre path and it was time to let go in 2011, glad I was wrong.

Besides, Tom's in rare territory now, and providing he doesn't quit on us after rookie camp like Parcells, he'll be making the footprints somebody else will have to follow.

THE_New_York_Giants
03-24-2012, 12:27 PM
Coughlin will coach the Giants until either
A) he retires
B) he dies

We could see an 80 year old coach Coughlin on the sidelines and I'd be fine with it. He's a great coach and guys like him don't come around often. I would say he's on par with Belicheck as the two best in the league and one of the best in history.

alau53
03-24-2012, 01:01 PM
next week would be a good time to play a joke on TC by saying we'd like you to train your successor this season, a guy like rob ryan... & then in '13 we will put you in our ring of honor
APRIL FOOLS

Garbloz
03-24-2012, 01:46 PM
tc is the man. never understood some of the hate for him. strength of schedule and injuries are the main reason for the 2nd half of the season schedule record imo. and for people that have looked and focused at that then look at the playoff record and goliath teams the gmen took down in them under tc. i know you can argue players are responsible for all that so look at the stuff that is unarguable that tc handled.

i think he still has the best win% for challenges in nfl history. hc clock and t/o management has been about if not the best in the nfl since he's been here. no doubt he fixed tikis fumbling coin flip and t/os or no to to get the wind for kicking.

tc is the man .

BigBlue1971
03-24-2012, 02:32 PM
some may consider TC the Giants greated hc of all times!</P>


he deserves to finish his career in style hopefully with a coupla more sb rings!</P>

Redeyejedi
03-24-2012, 03:26 PM
FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/24/for-new-york-giants-head-coach-tom-coughlin-the-hot-seat-is-now-forever-cooled/)

"The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a>” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
It’s quiet on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants coaching front lately.



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants head coach <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> holds trophy aloft at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) beat New England 21-17 to win Super Bowl XLVI
UPI/Kevin Dietsch</div>
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To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
was not bigger than his team.*</p>


Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
Giants football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/)
remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.*</p>


<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
(almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
of football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) in
2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.</p>


One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
Tom’s focus is on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) Giants, not himself.</p>
Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches

bLuereverie
03-24-2012, 03:59 PM
I was thoroughly perplexed while clicking the link as the FOREVER COOLED part was omitted in the title. So it read the "Hot Seat is Now".

gmen46
03-24-2012, 04:42 PM
FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/24/for-new-york-giants-head-coach-tom-coughlin-the-hot-seat-is-now-forever-cooled/)

"The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a>” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
It’s quiet on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants coaching front lately.



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants head coach <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> holds trophy aloft at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) beat New England 21-17 to win Super Bowl XLVI
UPI/Kevin Dietsch</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 5px">


<div style="POSITION: relative">



<div style="FLOAT: left">

</div></div>




<div style="POSITION: absolute; VISIBILITY: hidden; TOP: 0px; LEFT: 0px" id="beacon_2f2e2c25ad">http://d1.openx.org/lg.php?bannerid=544983&campaignid=255373&zoneid=86840&loc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giants101.com%2F2012%2F03 %2F24%2Ffor-new-york-giants-head-coach-tom-coughlin-the-hot-seat-is-now-forever-cooled%2F&cb=2f2e2c25ad&r_id=ca66d0d9cd131cdccff51329f6a89023&r_ts=m1e9mc</div></div>




To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
was not bigger than his team.*</p>


Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
Giants football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/)
remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.*</p>


<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
(almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
of football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) in
2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.</p>


One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
Tom’s focus is on the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) Giants, not himself.</p>
Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches

He's close to it.

Even before the post season this past year, he was tied for 19th all time with his career regular season record. Before his 4 post season wins and the SB.

Another couple years pacing as he has as the Giants HC, and he will be in the Top 15 All Time, no doubt.

giantyankee1976
03-24-2012, 05:07 PM
Coughlin will coach the Giants until either
A) he retires
B) he dies

We could see an 80 year old coach Coughlin on the sidelines and I'd be fine with it. He's a great coach and guys like him don't come around often. I would say he's on par with Belicheck as the two best in the league and one of the best in history.

good post.

SweetZombieJesus
03-24-2012, 11:23 PM
Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches

This is not opinion but fact; I worked it out before and there are 10-12 coaches who've won multiple Super Bowls and all but two or so are hall of famers or locks...

Lombardi, Landry, Knoll, Gibbs, Parcells, Tom Flores (Raiders), Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Siefert, Shanahan, Belichick, Coughlin. I probably missed somebody.

Some pretty elite company.

gmen46
03-25-2012, 04:40 AM
Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches

This is not opinion but fact; I worked it out before and there are 10-12 coaches who've won multiple Super Bowls and all but two or so are hall of famers or locks...*

Lombardi, Landry, Knoll, Gibbs, Parcells, Tom Flores (Raiders), Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Siefert, Shanahan, Belichick, Coughlin.* I probably missed somebody.

Some pretty elite company.


Also Don Shula (his Colts and Dolphins teams played in 6 Super Bowls, won 2.

Goerge Halas, Paul Brown, at least a couple other pre-Super Bowl era won multiple championships.

Toadofsteel
03-25-2012, 08:06 AM
Any missteps in our coaching have been made by others, not TC (remember Sheridan?) TC is probably the best coach the Giants ever had.

Bill Who?

ebick
03-25-2012, 08:42 AM
Not by me.....but the next time the Giants fall into a rough patch, it will no doubt start again. The media loves to start crap. It will be "he's too old, he's lost it".....fans, here I'm sure, will start calling for his head, saying it's time to move on. No one in a large market is ever really secure; from that I mean. In Reese's, Mara's and Tisch's minds, he probably is, and that means a lot. But I think anyone who thinks that no one will ever say "fire Coughlin", no matter come what may,again is over-optimistic.

GameTime
03-25-2012, 10:00 AM
coaches that never run into rough spots along the way are by far the exception and not the rule. </P>


TC had his down times for sure but its what you do overall that really matters. Obviously over the course of his coaching career he has been very good to great at times.</P>


He will pack it in after the 2014 season IMO. He allow for the chance to coach a Super Bowl in his own house and then call it a day. </P>


He deserves all the accolades he is getting.</P>