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Overdrive92
03-27-2012, 09:09 PM
Rumors are swirling up on Twitter than the Panthers are shopping RB Jonathan Stewart, and the Giants have come calling.

The rumors even went as far as to say that the deal was done earlier today, but ESPN's Adam Schefter confirmed that the deal is not done...at least not yet.

The Panthers signed RB Mike Tolbert about a week ago, and they now have a clog at RB with DeAngelo Williams, Stewart, and Tolbert. It makes sense that they would be looking to trade Stewart. And with the us recently dropping Jacobs, it would be a logical pickup for us as well.

I can't find any articles on it, so here is a Twitter search.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/giants%20stewart

And here is an article on the speculation.

http://www.giantsfootballblog.com/2012/03/24/panthers-willing-to-trade-jonathan-stewart-should-giants-get-involved/

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 09:10 PM
Omfg omfg omfg !!!!!! YESSSSS!!

Please be true!!!

TheAngryTuna
03-27-2012, 09:11 PM
Didn't they want a second rounder for him? Hopefully if we do get him it is for like a fourth this year and next year at most.

Overdrive92
03-27-2012, 09:11 PM
Let me edit the thread title so people don't actually think the deal is done yet.

I will say, I think this could be a good move for us. I trust Reese knows what he's doing, and a Stewart + Bradshaw combo would be pretty sweet.

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:12 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

NJGIANTinNC
03-27-2012, 09:13 PM
If this a cruel joke I will go ahead and put a kibosh on you.

Overdrive92
03-27-2012, 09:14 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

Osi for Stewart straight up seems like a bad trade for us. I hope not. I'm hoping we can get more for Osi than a backup RB.

TheAngryTuna
03-27-2012, 09:14 PM
lol, If Osi goes, I guess we know what we can count on in Round 1 this year.

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 09:15 PM
This all stems from one "HogWilly".

He is the only one to have heard something along those lines. Calling BS.

Eli TO Shockey
03-27-2012, 09:15 PM
holy moly. I will Tebow for this tonight

giantyankee1976
03-27-2012, 09:15 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

aggggghhh

please no.

Stewart would be intriguing but I like Defense more

Eli TO Shockey
03-27-2012, 09:16 PM
This all stems from one "HogWilly".

He is the only one to have heard something along those lines. Calling BS.

who is this hogwilly character and why is this getting so much airtime.

Eli TO Shockey
03-27-2012, 09:17 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

aggggghhh

please no.

Stewart would be intriguing but I like Defense more (this from a HS runningback no less)

not a chance JR trades defense for a RB.

RoanokeFan
03-27-2012, 09:17 PM
Here are his stats:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/11247/jonathan-stewart

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outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">GP</td><td title="Rushing attempts" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">ATT</td><td title="Total rushing yards" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">YDS</td><td title="Average yards per carry" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; 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background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">LNG</td><td title="Rushing touchdowns" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; 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background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">FD</td><td title="Total fumbles" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">FUM</td><td title="Fumbles lost" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 700; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">LST</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: left; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">2008</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: left; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><ul class="game-schedule" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><li class="team-logo-small logo-nfl-small nfl-small-29" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: url(http://a1.espncdn.com/prod/assets/teamlogos/nfl/logo-nfl-teams-small-vert.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; min-height: 26px; width: 30px; float: left; display: inline; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: normal; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; background-position: 0px -200px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">
<li class="team-name" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; float: left; display: inline; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: normal; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 25px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">CAR (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers)[/list]</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">16</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">184</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">836</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">4.5</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">41</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">10</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">42</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">2</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: left; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">2009</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: left; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><ul class="game-schedule" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><li class="team-logo-small logo-nfl-small nfl-small-29" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: url(http://a1.espncdn.com/prod/assets/teamlogos/nfl/logo-nfl-teams-small-vert.png); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; min-height: 26px; width: 30px; float: left; display: inline; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: normal; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; background-position: 0px -200px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">
<li class="team-name" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; float: left; display: inline; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-weight: normal; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 25px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">CAR (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers)[/list]</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">16</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">221</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">1,133</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">5.1</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">67</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 241); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-align: right; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">10</td><td style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; 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Overdrive92
03-27-2012, 09:18 PM
This all stems from one "HogWilly".

He is the only one to have heard something along those lines. Calling BS.

who is this hogwilly character and why is this getting so much airtime.


HogWilly is the guy who popped the question to Adam Schefter if the rumor was true or not.

giantyankee1976
03-27-2012, 09:19 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

aggggghhh

please no.

Stewart would be intriguing but I like Defense more

not a chance JR trades defense for a RB.


that's what I'm thinking...

I rather the OLIne improve and get a young Back via college who might mature and grow.

JR doesn't really make those big splashy moves anyway.

He B-lists it usually

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 09:20 PM
This all stems from one "HogWilly".

He is the only one to have heard something along those lines. Calling BS.

who is this hogwilly character and why is this getting so much airtime.
My thoughts exactly. Smh.

RoanokeFan
03-27-2012, 09:21 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

I think Osi is worth more than a back up RB. Maybe we give them our extra 4th round pick?

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:22 PM
but the panthers want another DE across from Johnson. Osi wants a new contract that we just don't have the money for, Stewart can be a workhorse back, we will probably spend a high pick on a DE anyway plus Plus osi is old, AND we can focus more on O-line in the draft and not have to get a RB. It just makes sense, also add that Bradshaw is an injury waiting to happen of and finally Stewart can catch.

Overdrive92
03-27-2012, 09:23 PM
but the panthers want another DE across from Johnson. Osi wants a new contract that we just don't have the money for, Stewart can be a workhorse back, we will probably spend a high pick on a DE anyway plus Plus osi is old, AND we can focus more on O-line in the draft and not have to get a RB. It just makes sense, also add that Bradshaw is an injury waiting to happen of and finally Stewart can catch.

If we do trade Osi to them, they have to give us more than a backup RB in Stewart. They need to give us some picks with him.

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:24 PM
Incarcerated Bob ? @incarceratedbob Close
@kayjay812 Panthers shopping Stewart all over the league (Browns / Broncos / Giants) all have interest. Browns have most ammo 2get deal done

I This was his reply to my question. I trust IBN

giantyankee1976
03-27-2012, 09:25 PM
but the panthers want another DE across from Johnson. Osi wants a new contract that we just don't have the money for, Stewart can be a workhorse back, we will probably spend a high pick on a DE anyway plus Plus osi is old, AND we can focus more on O-line in the draft and not have to get a RB. It just makes sense, also add that Bradshaw is an injury waiting to happen of and finally Stewart can catch.

If we do trade Osi to them, they have to give us more than a backup RB in Stewart. They need to give us some picks with him.

yeah, I agree with O-drive

KennyPhilips1
03-27-2012, 09:25 PM
God please be true woudnt have to waste a pick on a rb plus he's nice as hell

slipknottin
03-27-2012, 09:26 PM
I I trust IBN

You cant be serious.

cornerback30
03-27-2012, 09:28 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSIExactly dude and Im a draft a holic.I luv when its our turn to pick,just to see who we will get.

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:29 PM
I I trust IBN

You cant be serious.I am. he's been right every time.

slipknottin
03-27-2012, 09:31 PM
I am. he's been right every time.

Sure he has. Just like when he tweeted last offseason that Nnamdi had agreed to a deal with the Jets. Or that Harbaugh had officially agreed to coach the Dolphins.

The only time hes right is when he steals tweets from the other actual reporters.

Bob is a complete and total fraud.

He is not an insider, and has no sources, unless you count other reporters on twitter as "sources"

G-Men Surg.
03-27-2012, 09:31 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

aggggghhh

please no.

Stewart would be intriguing but I like Defense more (this from a HS runningback no less)

not a chance JR trades defense for a RB.


Yep, no chance in hell Reese is shipping a Pro bowl DE like Osi for RB. If this rumor is true my guess Reese is trying to deal him for a 4th , as the starting price .

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:35 PM
I am. he's been right every time.

Sure he has. Just like when he tweeted last offseason that Nnamdi had agreed to a deal with the Jets. Or that Harbaugh had officially agreed to coach the Dolphins.

The only time hes right is when he steals tweets from the other actual reporters.

Bob is a complete and total fraud.

He is not an insider, and has no sources, unless you count other reporters on twitter as "sources"He had Mario Williams' signing 2 days before anyone else did.

slipknottin
03-27-2012, 09:37 PM
He had Mario Williams' signing 2 days before anyone else did.

No, what he did was saw that Mario Williams was visiting Buffalo. So he claimed that Williams had already agreed to a deal with Buffalo.

That Mario 2 days later actually agreed to terms with Buffalo doesnt make IBN correct. Far from it actually.

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 09:38 PM
I am. he's been right every time.

Sure he has. Just like when he tweeted last offseason that Nnamdi had agreed to a deal with the Jets. Or that Harbaugh had officially agreed to coach the Dolphins.

The only time hes right is when he steals tweets from the other actual reporters.

Bob is a complete and total fraud.

He is not an insider, and has no sources, unless you count other reporters on twitter as "sources"He had Mario Williams' signing 2 days before anyone else did.Doubt it. Williams was visiting with the Bills for like a freaking week and they reportedly were really interested from the start of FA.

XxBigWhitxX
03-27-2012, 09:39 PM
He had Mario Williams' signing 2 days before anyone else did.

No, what he did was saw that Mario Williams was visiting Buffalo. So he claimed that Williams had already agreed to a deal with Buffalo.

That Mario 2 days later actually agreed to terms with Buffalo doesnt make IBN correct. Far from it actually.I have my trusted sources you have yours.

Shockeyitus
03-27-2012, 09:39 PM
Send them a Fourth Rounder and say take it or leave it.

slipknottin
03-27-2012, 09:42 PM
I have my trusted sources you have yours.

He isnt a source. He just guesses and sees what sticks.

But suit yourself. Id prefer to follow actual sports people, like Glazer, or Schefter.

giantsfan420
03-27-2012, 09:45 PM
i remember when this trade block info came out and i was all for it.

carolina is looking for a 3rd or a 2nd round pick. it could have been a 3rd or a 4th, im not sure.

but i am all for this. if we do make this trade, expect us to work out a contract so we dont trade a pick for just one years worth of play. but with money tied into AB, would we take the money we just saved by cutting BJ and put it back into the rb position?

no way if we do trade for him that osi is a part of the deal. only way he would be is if the giants wanted to free up cap space and keep the picks needed for the trade, i dont see that as likely as just shipping off our 3rd since we got that comp. 4th round pick.

stewart is a beast and will make our offense that much more dangerous in the running attack. plus he is an excellent 3rd down back.

he's a younger, faster bradshaw without the feet issues. i'd be for steward getting as many touches as AB, itll keep AB fresher and also give us more freedom in our formations. it also lets us focus that one more pick we'd need to use on a RB and use it on the OL.

now just draft fleener/kendal wright/stephen hill or Sanu in the 2nd or 3rd, and with a solid OL pick or two, our offense has top 5 talent everywhere...so stoked...hope this actually plays out. doesnt seem like reeses style tho so we'll see

bLuereverie
03-27-2012, 09:47 PM
lol at Incarcerated Bob. I shoulda known.

slipknottin
03-27-2012, 09:48 PM
I dont see the giants giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a HB who has one year left on his contract.

Puts them in a situation where either Stewart walks in free agency, or they are back to having to pay him 5+ mil a year. Something they cant afford.

Massively less expensive to just draft a HB early. A 2nd round HB for instance would get something like a 4 year 3.2 million dollar deal.

So either you pay Stewart likely twice that PER season, or you pay a rookie virtually nothing.

its an easy choice, IMO. On the other hand, if the panthers give him up for a late pick (5th or later) then its not a big deal to essentially only be renting him. Then collect a comp pick after you let him walk in FA.

KennyPhilips1
03-27-2012, 10:01 PM
O incarcerated bob reported it? Just gonna forget bout this rumor now...

RoanokeFan
03-27-2012, 10:02 PM
I dont see the giants giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a HB who has one year left on his contract.

Puts them in a situation where either Stewart walks in free agency, or they are back to having to pay him 5+ mil a year. Something they cant afford.

Massively less expensive to just draft a HB early. A 2nd round HB for instance would get something like a 4 year 3.2 million dollar deal.

So either you pay Stewart likely twice that PER season, or you pay a rookie virtually nothing.

its an easy choice, IMO. On the other hand, if the panthers give him up for a late pick (5th or later) then its not a big deal to essentially only be renting him. Then collect a comp pick after you let him walk in FA.

Why not use the compensatory 4th pick? I don't see them needing him after this season IF they draft a RB

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 10:05 PM
I dont see the giants giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a HB who has one year left on his contract.

Puts them in a situation where either Stewart walks in free agency, or they are back to having to pay him 5+ mil a year. Something they cant afford.

Massively less expensive to just draft a HB early. A 2nd round HB for instance would get something like a 4 year 3.2 million dollar deal.

So either you pay Stewart likely twice that PER season, or you pay a rookie virtually nothing.

its an easy choice, IMO. On the other hand, if the panthers give him up for a late pick (5th or later) then its not a big deal to essentially only be renting him. Then collect a comp pick after you let him walk in FA.

Why not use the compensatory 4th pick?* I don't see them needing him after this season IF they draft a RB
Can't trade Compensatory picks.

You can trade our fourth though.

titwio
03-27-2012, 10:07 PM
My God if it's true then what a freaking upgrade this would be!

I wanted a RB through the draft but hard to argue against this. Stew and Bradshaw would be a sick combo but...I'll wait till I here from a solid source before getting my hopes up.

VegasGmen
03-27-2012, 10:19 PM
I would love to have Stewart on the Giants but I don't see it happening with what he would command in salary. We aren't wasting a draft pick on a player with 1 yr left on his contract. Reese would only trade for him he can sign him long term and that would probably cost around 5 mil per. We cannot have AB and Stewart eating up that much cap space.

titwio
03-27-2012, 10:22 PM
ESPN's Adam Schefter confirmed that the deal is not done...at least not yet.

Was this through twitter or on ESPN cause I can't find anything about Schefter saying anything on this matter?

the_fish62
03-27-2012, 10:24 PM
Stewart grew up about 30 min north of me so I followed him all threw h.s. and college at UO. He is a class act kid all the way, awesome family his mom waited for him after games Friday nights to make sure he was coming home and not going out. If he goes to us he will fit in right away and be more then a back up RB.

the_fish62
03-27-2012, 10:26 PM
I would love to have Stewart on the Giants but I don't see it happening with what he would command in salary. We aren't wasting a draft pick on a player with 1 yr left on his contract. Reese would only trade for him he can sign him long term and that would probably cost around 5 mil per. We cannot have AB and Stewart eating up that much cap space.

Back end load the contract and give him a signing bonus. Does that still work with the new CBA?

DownWitJPP
03-27-2012, 10:26 PM
no where on Adam Schefter's twitter does he say that Stewart is being traded to the Giants

heres the actually question to Schefter from some guy Hogwilly on twitter


RT @HogWilly: Hearing J Stewart being traded to Giants. Heard anything? ... Panthers adamant this week that they're not trading Stewart.

could just be a rumor, no proof yet

JJC7301
03-27-2012, 10:27 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

Osi for Stewart straight up seems like a bad trade for us. I hope not. I'm hoping we can get more for Osi than a backup RB.
I have no desire to trade one of our DE's for a RB. Improve the o-line and the RBs will perform better.

Not saying that we can't use another RB if BJ won't come back, but I'm not giving up Osi for an RB. Our D is predicated on our D-line (especially the DE's) getting to the QB quickly and consistently. I really don't think it would be a good move.

titwio
03-27-2012, 10:32 PM
no where on Adam Schefter's twitter does he say that Stewart is being traded to the Giants

heres the actually question to Schefter from some guy Hogwilly on twitter


RT @HogWilly: Hearing J Stewart being traded to Giants. Heard anything? ... Panthers adamant this week that they're not trading Stewart.

could just be a rumor, no proof yet

Yeah I saw the same thing. I can't find anywhere of Adam reporting on this...If the OP can clarify it then I'd think it could be something but right now...this just seems like a made up story.

gmen0820
03-27-2012, 10:32 PM
no where on Adam Schefter's twitter does he say that Stewart is being traded to the Giants

heres the actually question to Schefter from some guy Hogwilly on twitter


RT @HogWilly: Hearing J Stewart being traded to Giants. Heard anything? ... Panthers adamant this week that they're not trading Stewart.

could just be a rumor, no proof yetThat is the thing, it isn't even a rumor. HogWilly is just a fan I think.

Schefter clearly heard nothing about it, I'm surprised he even responded.

Neverend
03-27-2012, 10:37 PM
Ugh, thanks for getting my hopes up.

Like the third time this week. Its getting ridiculous

cornerback30
03-27-2012, 10:40 PM
Besides I een a clip from the Steerers site from foxsports that said he would want 5 mil a yr with his deal,shut it down right there.

DownWitJPP
03-27-2012, 10:44 PM
I will admit I got a lil excited too when I first seen the post, I really like Stewart. But i went to twitter to actually check it out and theres nothing

I have every single beat writer that covers the Giants on my twitter, and there's nothing from any of them

GmenFan1980
03-27-2012, 10:46 PM
http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/120774/son-i-am-disappoint.gif

TheEnigma
03-27-2012, 10:49 PM
Reese responds to Stewart rumors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs/)

titwio
03-27-2012, 10:54 PM
And poof...there goes the air from this thread.

Oh well...Back to the draft and scouting RB's for now.

berya
03-27-2012, 10:55 PM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

aggggghhh

please no.

Stewart would be intriguing but I like Defense more (this from a HS runningback no less)

not a chance JR trades defense for a RB.


Yep, no chance in hell Reese is shipping a Pro bowl DE like Osi for RB. If this rumor is true my guess Reese is trying to deal him for a 4th , as the starting price .

Agree 100%. Probably offering a 4th for him... There is no way Osi is being traded for Stewart straight up unless we are getting picks as well.

JJC7301
03-27-2012, 11:14 PM
Reese responds to Stewart rumors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs/)
HAAA!

Flip Empty
03-27-2012, 11:17 PM
God, it's like people race to make a thread on here the instant they see the Giants mentioned somewhere.

JJC7301
03-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Rumors are swirling up on Twitter than the Panthers are shopping RB Jonathan Stewart, and the Giants have come calling.

The rumors even went as far as to say that the deal was done earlier today, but ESPN's Adam Schefter confirmed that the deal is not done...at least not yet.

The Panthers signed RB Mike Tolbert about a week ago, and they now have a clog at RB with DeAngelo Williams, Stewart, and Tolbert. It makes sense that they would be looking to trade Stewart. And with the us recently dropping Jacobs, it would be a logical pickup for us as well.

I can't find any articles on it, so here is a Twitter search.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/giants%20stewart

And here is an article on the speculation.

http://www.giantsfootballblog.com/2012/03/24/panthers-willing-to-trade-jonathan-stewart-should-giants-get-involved/
Funny...I just googled "Giants trade for Stewart" to see if there was any truth to the rumor and this message board was the second link listed. Don't see any rumors out there, but just some writers opining that the Giants could or should look into it.

dayeh33
03-28-2012, 01:08 AM
I'd give up our third rounder since its a late pick... he's still young

Kingb50
03-28-2012, 01:28 AM
OMG BUT WHAT OR WHO ARE WE TRADING!? MY GUESS IS OSI

Osi for Stewart straight up seems like a bad trade for us. I hope not. I'm hoping we can get more for Osi than a backup RB.
+1

slipknottin
03-28-2012, 01:29 AM
I'd give up our third rounder since its a late pick... he's still young


you want to give up a 3rd round pick for a player that wont be on the team after this season?

Vtgmenfan89
03-28-2012, 01:44 AM
I'd give up our third rounder since its a late pick... he's still young


you want to give up a 3rd round pick for a player that wont be on the team after this season?

+1. Everyone seems to be forgetting that Stewarts deal is up after 2012 season...meaning we would be left to resign him, when we have Nicks and Cruz to worry about in coming years..who are more important and homegrown talents. I quite honestly hope this trade doesn't happen unless it's a bargain for us. What the hell is the use of trading players and/or picks for a RB when we have no o-line to block for him anyway? I just don't see it, this is not Giants or Reese like at all. I think we address the position no later than the 4th round of the draft and work on rebuilding the o-line

jhamburg
03-28-2012, 01:47 AM
I'd give up our third rounder since its a late pick... he's still young


you want to give up a 3rd round pick for a player that wont be on the team after this season?

+1. Everyone seems to be forgetting that Stewarts deal is up after 2012 season...meaning we would be left to resign him, when we have Nicks and Cruz to worry about in coming years..who are more important and homegrown talents. I quite honestly hope this trade doesn't happen unless it's a bargain for us. What the hell is the use of trading players and/or picks for a RB when we have no o-line to block for him anyway? I just don't see it, this is not Giants or Reese like at all. I think we address the position no later than the 4th round of the draft and work on rebuilding the o-line

I'd trade a 5th rounder though, just for the sake of trying to repeat. If Sage Rosenfels and Darius Reynaud are worth a 5th rounder, then Stewart is too.

KillaRich
03-28-2012, 02:49 AM
He might only have a a year left...but we just won the superbowl...its obvious they want to repeat...giants are thinking win now while eli is in his prime.... draft picks are important but we need to at the very worst maintain a level of talent for this season since we have a tough schedule....we cant just let everybody go and replace draft picks cuz draft picks are promised players..... although reese is great at it....giants must be about brining in players now to go for a repeat...stewart would be a upgrade over jacobs and we know our running game was weak so thats a big plus for this year..... maybe both the 4 rounders??? im all for improving the team with proven players NOW.....if thats what they are doing we did just win the big game and should be able to do it again if we improve this season... egt stewart reese DO IT</P>


</P>


And if we are going to put boley at middle and run with the 4-2-5 as the base defense then i hope we get another safety at worst give grant another year....i really believe having 3 quality safeties is a big part of this defense....</P>

bansaw
03-28-2012, 03:44 AM
lol incarcerated bob

Flip Empty
03-28-2012, 04:04 AM
Considering the way the team often flubs its sub-second round picks, I suppose giving up a 3rd to hire a Pro Bowl calibre running back for one year would be better than lugging around Travis Beckum for three years.

BigBlue187
03-28-2012, 06:40 AM
I'm still not seeing any substance to these rumors anywhere. I don't even see anything saying the giants are interested.

GMENAGAIN
03-28-2012, 06:44 AM
This whole thread is bull ****. Here's hoping the OP gets a nice long vacation . . . . .

Flip Empty
03-28-2012, 06:45 AM
I'm still not seeing any substance to these rumors anywhere.* I don't even see anything saying the giants are interested.

There's no substance as all, just someone getting overexcited.

BigBlue187
03-28-2012, 06:49 AM
All I see is this tweet. from Schefter

<s>@</s>HogWilly (http://twitter.com/HogWilly): Hearing J Stewart being traded to Giants. Heard anything? ... Panthers adamant this week that they're not trading Stewart.

so its pretty much a Giants fan saying that he heard the giants traded for stewart and Schefter is saying nope. this doesnt even look like a rumer to me its more like fan speculation. The same guy said we should sign Peyton as a backup. Not putting much stock in this.

hungrrrry
03-28-2012, 07:06 AM
All I see is this tweet. from Schefter

*<s>@</s>HogWilly (http://twitter.com/HogWilly): Hearing J Stewart being traded to Giants. Heard anything? ... Panthers adamant this week that they're not trading Stewart.

so its pretty much a Giants fan saying that he heard the giants traded for stewart and Schefter is saying nope.* this doesnt even look like a rumer to me its more like fan speculation.* The same guy said we should sign Peyton as a backup. Not putting much stock in this.

and yet there are 5 pages devoted to this thread with drool splattered all over it...good god!!!

nygsb42champs
03-28-2012, 07:59 AM
As long as it is not straight up for Osi I am all for it.

miked1958
03-28-2012, 09:19 AM
Not going to happen so let's get over it. Bring BJ back cheap and we are all good

miked1958
03-28-2012, 09:19 AM
Let him retire as a Giant

NJ10
03-28-2012, 09:23 AM
Man i hope this is true. Sound like a lot of BS though.

TuckYou
03-28-2012, 09:40 AM
Wow! Where the hell did this thread come from? </P>


Let me give you a few reasons why I hope to Tebow this is not true.(By the way, this thread was too long for me to read through so sorry if others have said the same).</P>


#1 - They were shopping him for a 2nd round pick. Yeah, he is a good RB, but we find good RBs in the 5th 6th 7th rounds. </P>


#2 - Osi for a RB? Please.... No way Reese is that dumb to trade an ELITE, yes, ELITE pass rusher ball stripper like Osi for a back up RB. A good backup RB, but a backup none the less.</P>


#3 -J Stewscontract expires 2012. So does Osi, Kiwi, Cruz and a bunch others. I would rather resign our guys, so that would mean we would need to resign J Stew to a big contract, which wont happen. He would be a 1 year rental. Not worth a 2nd.</P>


</P>

T.Rice57
03-28-2012, 09:46 AM
With his injuries, I'd take him for a 4th......that's it.




Wow! Where the hell did this thread come from? </p>


Let me give you a few reasons why I hope to Tebow this is not true.(By the way, this thread was too long for me to read through so sorry if others have said the same).</p>


#1 - They were shopping him for a 2nd round pick. Yeah, he is a good RB, but we find good RBs in the 5th 6th 7th rounds. </p>


#2 - Osi for a RB? Please.... No way Reese is that dumb to trade an ELITE, yes, ELITE pass rusher ball stripper like Osi for a back up RB. A good backup RB, but a backup none the less.</p>


#3 -J Stewscontract expires 2012. So does Osi, Kiwi, Cruz and a bunch others. I would rather resign our guys, so that would mean we would need to resign J Stew to a big contract, which wont happen. He would be a 1 year rental. Not worth a 2nd.</p>


</p>

GiantsYanks
03-28-2012, 09:55 AM
lol incarcerated bob



+1

I cant believe people actually believe this fool. His sheep seem to look past when he completely misses on his guess like Nmandi to the Jets and for you hockey fans he said Rangers had traded for Rick Nash. The guy just names 3 or 4 possible teams and then when one hits he trys to take credit for it. He's a clown

NYGRealityCheck
03-28-2012, 07:29 PM
Well.. regarding the rumor..

Jonathan Stewart will only cost the Giants $1.3 mil base salary for one year as the Giants will not be liable for the bonuses. However, the Jets basically traded a 4th rd pick for Tebow and I don't expect the Giants to top that for Stewart. A late pick for Stewart (former first rounder) is not a bad idea to at least consider.

The main focus is winning the Superbowl next season, not really worrying about what happens 2-3 years down the road as much. If the Giants believe Stewart fits in for only one year, then so be it.

jparmer
03-28-2012, 07:32 PM
I'd give up a 4th. Nothing higher though

NJGIANTinNC
03-28-2012, 07:37 PM
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nycsportzfan
03-28-2012, 07:50 PM
I think John Stewart fits our offense like a glove.. As soon as they signed Tolbert, i was talking about a possible trade for the big bruiser...

nycsportzfan
03-28-2012, 07:51 PM
I'd give up a 4th. Nothing higher though I'd totally give up a 3rd for stewart... Hes pretty good..

jparmer
03-28-2012, 08:32 PM
I'd give up a 4th. Nothing higher though I'd totally give up a 3rd for stewart... Hes pretty good..

For 1 year? He has had injury issues as well

Neverend
03-28-2012, 08:35 PM
I'd give up a 4th. Nothing higher though I'd totally give up a 3rd for stewart... Hes pretty good..

For 1 year? He has had injury issues as well

Worth it to me. Half the time draft picks dont pan out in the league. Stewart's proven and maybe we negociate something afterwards, its always a possibility

GMENAGAIN
03-28-2012, 08:41 PM
Well.. regarding the rumor..

Jonathan Stewart will only cost the Giants $1.3 mil base salary for one year as the Giants will not be liable for the bonuses. However, the Jets basically traded a 4th rd pick for Tebow and I don't expect the Giants to top that for Stewart. A late pick for Stewart (former first rounder) is not a bad idea to at least consider.

The main focus is winning the Superbowl next season, not really worrying about what happens 2-3 years down the road as much. If the Giants believe Stewart fits in for only one year, then so be it.

Eh, there is no rumor . . . .this entire thread is horse ****

NYG4ME
03-29-2012, 09:55 AM
Kinda hope this isn't true.. I haven't seen this posted anywhere else and none of the beat writers have mentioned this at all.

Kruunch
03-29-2012, 10:14 AM
He'd be a trade for a draft pick.not a player.

3rd round pick would probably get the deal done (on the Giants side at least).

Flip Empty
03-29-2012, 10:52 AM
Kinda hope this isn't true.. I haven't seen this posted anywhere else and none of the beat writers have mentioned this at all.

It's not true. The OP lives in a fairy tale.

GIANTfaninFL
03-29-2012, 10:57 AM
4th at most

slipknottin
03-29-2012, 03:20 PM
The main focus is winning the Superbowl next season, not really worrying about what happens 2-3 years down the road as much.

This is absolutely completely 100% wrong.

The main goal is to be a competitive team EVERY year. Giants will never do anything that will compromise the future success of their team.

G-Man67
03-29-2012, 03:41 PM
for no more than a 4th and i would be happy ... altho if it gets done, then i fear it might be our 3rd, but that is the 96th pick, so could live with that ... Ware has shown little and inexperienced younger guys could get Eli killed in pass protection</P>


and Stewart would be highly motivated to show the Panthers they did the wrong thing by essentially swapping him out for Tolbert</P>

TrueBlue@NYC
03-29-2012, 03:42 PM
The main focus is winning the Superbowl next season, not really worrying about what happens 2-3 years down the road as much. This is absolutely completely 100% wrong. The main goal is to be a competitive team EVERY year. Giants will never do anything that will compromise the future success of their team.</P>


+1, there's too much that can go wrong in a single season (injuries, lack of cohesion, bad luck) that can derail it for you to put all of your chips in on one season. Best bet is to put together a team that can compete every year, and hope you're the team that's hot and lucky for the post season. </P>


Luck and getting hot at the right time has a bigger effect on winning a SB title than it does any other sport b/c there are so few games and the playoffs are single elimination. </P>

Drez
03-29-2012, 04:51 PM
The main focus is winning the Superbowl next season, not really worrying about what happens 2-3 years down the road as much. This is absolutely completely 100% wrong. The main goal is to be a competitive team EVERY year. Giants will never do anything that will compromise the future success of their team.</p>


+1, there's too much that can go wrong in a single season (injuries, lack of cohesion, bad luck) that can derail it for you to put all of your chips in on one season. Best bet is to put together a team that can compete every year, and hope you're the team that's hot and lucky for the post season. </p>


Luck and getting hot at the right time has a bigger effect on winning a SB title than it does any other sport b/c there are so few games and the playoffs are single elimination. </p>
Focusing only on winning this season you end up with results like the Eagles of last season.

Morehead State
03-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Great GM's strike the balance. You can't forfiet the future to win now and you can't do the opposite either,</P>


You have to keep the pipeline of developing players moving and still hopefully get production from developing players.</P>


Thats how you win year in and year out. The fact that we have no had a losing season since 2004 demonstrates that we have done a nice job of striking that balance.</P>

Drez
03-29-2012, 09:53 PM
Great GM's strike the balance. You can't forfiet the future to win now and you can't do the opposite either,</p>


You have to keep the pipeline of developing players moving and still hopefully get production from developing players.</p>


Thats how you win year in and year out. The fact that we have no had a losing season since 2004 demonstrates that we have done a nice job of striking that balance.</p>
Our entire front office and coaching staff has done very well in that regard since TC has come aboard.

Cruz 4 Prez
03-29-2012, 11:48 PM
Great GM's strike the balance.* You can't forfiet the future to win now and you can't do the opposite either,</P>


You have to keep the pipeline of developing players moving and still hopefully get production from developing players.</P>


Thats how you win year in and year out.* The fact that we have no had a losing season since 2004 demonstrates that we have done a nice job of striking that balance.</P>
Too bad the Broncos didn't take this advice. They have 3 years to TRY to win before Manning is gone for good, and they don't have anyone capable behind him.

Bohemian
03-29-2012, 11:59 PM
holy moly. I will Tebow for this tonight


Nice! I am an atheist, but I'll Tebow for this one too.

Cruz 4 Prez
03-30-2012, 12:11 AM
holy moly. I will Tebow for this tonight


Nice! I am an atheist, but I'll Tebow for this one too.

I'll plank if we get him, lol.

slipknottin
03-30-2012, 12:12 AM
Too bad the Broncos didn't take this advice. They have 3 years to TRY to win before Manning is gone for good, and they don't have anyone capable behind him.

They will be looking to find another franchise QB. They didnt harm the future success of that team at all. They made the team better now, and better moving forward.

jhamburg
03-30-2012, 12:53 AM
Too bad the Broncos didn't take this advice. They have 3 years to TRY to win before Manning is gone for good, and they don't have anyone capable behind him.

They will be looking to find another franchise QB. They didnt harm the future success of that team at all. They made the team better now, and better moving forward.

Yeah they didn't trade away any draft picks for him, just spent a **** of money. But that isn't a long term concern. They can easily draft a project QB in the next couple of years and have him learn from the best.

The only downsides to signing Peyton are:

A) He isn't healthy and you wasted a bunch of time and money

B) Tebow turns out to be a franchise QB, which is a longshot at best at this point.