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RoanokeFan
04-03-2012, 01:03 PM
SPEARHEADED BY JERRY REESE, GIANTS' OFF-SEASON STRATEGY IS A STUDY IN ECONOMICS (http://)

"Buying low and selling high; that's the basic foundation of trading on the
stock market successfully. But what if that strategy applied to the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)? <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> general manager Jerry Reese contends that it does.

Last summer Reese explicitly stated his disdain for making "big sexy moves."
In fact, Reese controversially sold high on key free agents such as Steve Smith
and Kevin Boss, both of whom have now found homes on bargain basement deals with
their 3rd team in three years.


This offseason, the additions of MartellusBennett on a one-year deal, Stevie
Brown on a one-year deal, as well as Chris Horton on a one-year deal represents
a continuation of Reese's philosophy.</p>


If you think the pickups the Giants have made will have minimal impact, think
again. In the last four years, the Giants have signed players on cheap, short
deals, who ended up making major contributions over the course of the season.
KawikaMitchell, Derrick Ward, Deon Grant, Devin Thomas, and Steve Weatherford
have all come in on short, economical deals and made major contributionsto the
Giants and their success.</p>


None of these players were brought in near the beginning of free agency
either. Reese likes to strengthen his leverage when signing players by letting
the dust settle in free agency before he makes any moves. Players signed at the
outset of free agency tend to get deals well above their value. The more days
that pass, the more willing a player is to take a cheaper deal.</p>


All are perfect examples of Reese's uncanny ability to buy low.</p>


Look for this to continue to happen over the course of the next several
months.</p>


Reese will take the draft round by round and pick by pick and if he
ultimately still feels as if he has holes on the team, he will address them
post-draft. Players at need positions like Jonathan Goff, Gary Brackett, Joseph
Addai, and others are still out there.</p>


No one knows what the Giants have in mind for draft day, but there is almost
a certainty that the Giants will sign players after the draft. Keith Bullock,
Deon Grant, as well as Steve Weatherford were all signed post- draft.</p>


Perhaps the Giants will add two running backs in the draft that they love,
like Lamar Miller or Bernard Pierce or perhaps they will land a middle
linebacker like Luke Keuchly. The team won't know until Mr. Irrelevant is
selected exactly who they need to add this summer to come into camp and
compete.</p>

JMFP2
04-03-2012, 01:09 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys.

RoanokeFan
04-03-2012, 01:35 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys.

A point well made and often overlooked

T-Murda84
04-03-2012, 01:48 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys.

Thank you!!! This is what I been trying to point out for years, yet Coughlin is always on the hot seat. If u look at guys like Ward, he flourished in Coughlin and Gilbrides system. Yet all I hear is that Reese is the reason we won the Superbowls and Coughlin and Gilbride needs to go. Have some respect for the coaching staff....I think we have the best coaches in the league.

T-Murda84
04-03-2012, 01:50 PM
Plus Reese has no option but to sign cheap free agents....we are always near the cap anyway. Reese signs the cheap free agents and our coaching staff prepares these guys on gameday.

NYBlue10
04-03-2012, 02:04 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.

Next up I'm sure is Cruz.

nygsb42champs
04-03-2012, 02:05 PM
It has worked for us before. That is why as Giant fans we should trust in JR.

plaxattack17
04-03-2012, 04:50 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys.
well said TC deserves as much if not more credit for the success in these pickups

Flip Empty
04-03-2012, 04:58 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.
Agree with this.
And neither Boss nor Smith are playing (or not playing) for "bargain basement deals".

jjj45
04-03-2012, 04:59 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy
there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for
other teams.
Agree with this.
And neither Boss nor Smith are playing (or not playing) for "bargain
basement deals".It's our superior system as that has let our players be great. Which Giants FA's have flourished once they left us?

We keep the ones we need. And discard the ones we don't.

Flip Empty
04-03-2012, 05:04 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.

Next up I'm sure is Cruz.It's our superior system as well that has let our players be great. Which Giants FA's have flourished once they left us?

Ryan Clark and Ryan Grant. Gibril Wilson had a nice year with the Raiders after he left.

I get what you're saying though. There aren't many who have success after leaving.

jomo
04-03-2012, 05:18 PM
SPEARHEADED BY JERRY REESE, GIANTS' OFF-SEASON STRATEGY IS A STUDY IN ECONOMICS (http://)

"Buying low and selling high; that's the basic foundation of trading on the
stock market successfully. But what if that strategy applied to the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)? <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> general manager Jerry Reese contends that it does.

Last summer Reese explicitly stated his disdain for making "big sexy moves."
In fact, Reese controversially sold high on key free agents such as Steve Smith
and Kevin Boss, both of whom have now found homes on bargain basement deals with
their 3rd team in three years.


This offseason, the additions of Martellus*Bennett on a one-year deal, Stevie
Brown on a one-year deal, as well as Chris Horton on a one-year deal represents
a continuation of Reese's philosophy.*</p>


If you think the pickups the Giants have made will have minimal impact, think
again. In the last four years, the Giants have signed players on cheap, short
deals, who ended up making major contributions over the course of the season.
Kawika*Mitchell, Derrick Ward, Deon Grant, Devin Thomas, and Steve Weatherford
have all come in on short, economical deals and made major contributions*to the
Giants and their success.*</p>


None of these players were brought in near the beginning of free agency
either. Reese likes to strengthen his leverage when signing players by letting
the dust settle in free agency before he makes any moves. Players signed at the
outset of free agency tend to get deals well above their value. The more days
that pass, the more willing a player is to take a cheaper deal.</p>


All are perfect examples of Reese's uncanny ability to buy low.</p>


Look for this to continue to happen over the course of the next several
months.</p>


Reese will take the draft round by round and pick by pick and if he
ultimately still feels as if he has holes on the team, he will address them
post-draft. Players at need positions like Jonathan Goff, Gary Brackett, Joseph
Addai, and others are still out there.*</p>


No one knows what the Giants have in mind for draft day, but there is almost
a certainty that the Giants will sign players after the draft. Keith Bullock,
Deon Grant, as well as Steve Weatherford were all signed post- draft.*</p>


Perhaps the Giants will add two running backs in the draft that they love,
like Lamar Miller or Bernard Pierce or perhaps they will land a middle
linebacker like Luke Keuchly. The team won't know until Mr. Irrelevant is
selected exactly who they need to add this summer to come into camp and
compete.</p>Ah, my RF friend but when you combine a strategy of buying low with a great eye for talent (JR has scouting in his blood) you have something truly special! My point is that even if you know his strategy, you can't excute it without knowing exactly which players to bring in.

RoanokeFan
04-03-2012, 05:39 PM
SPEARHEADED BY JERRY REESE, GIANTS' OFF-SEASON STRATEGY IS A STUDY IN ECONOMICS (http://)

"Buying low and selling high; that's the basic foundation of trading on the
stock market successfully. But what if that strategy applied to the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)? <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> general manager Jerry Reese contends that it does.

Last summer Reese explicitly stated his disdain for making "big sexy moves."
In fact, Reese controversially sold high on key free agents such as Steve Smith
and Kevin Boss, both of whom have now found homes on bargain basement deals with
their 3rd team in three years.


This offseason, the additions of MartellusBennett on a one-year deal, Stevie
Brown on a one-year deal, as well as Chris Horton on a one-year deal represents
a continuation of Reese's philosophy.</p>


If you think the pickups the Giants have made will have minimal impact, think
again. In the last four years, the Giants have signed players on cheap, short
deals, who ended up making major contributions over the course of the season.
KawikaMitchell, Derrick Ward, Deon Grant, Devin Thomas, and Steve Weatherford
have all come in on short, economical deals and made major contributionsto the
Giants and their success.</p>


None of these players were brought in near the beginning of free agency
either. Reese likes to strengthen his leverage when signing players by letting
the dust settle in free agency before he makes any moves. Players signed at the
outset of free agency tend to get deals well above their value. The more days
that pass, the more willing a player is to take a cheaper deal.</p>


All are perfect examples of Reese's uncanny ability to buy low.</p>


Look for this to continue to happen over the course of the next several
months.</p>


Reese will take the draft round by round and pick by pick and if he
ultimately still feels as if he has holes on the team, he will address them
post-draft. Players at need positions like Jonathan Goff, Gary Brackett, Joseph
Addai, and others are still out there.</p>


No one knows what the Giants have in mind for draft day, but there is almost
a certainty that the Giants will sign players after the draft. Keith Bullock,
Deon Grant, as well as Steve Weatherford were all signed post- draft.</p>


Perhaps the Giants will add two running backs in the draft that they love,
like Lamar Miller or Bernard Pierce or perhaps they will land a middle
linebacker like Luke Keuchly. The team won't know until Mr. Irrelevant is
selected exactly who they need to add this summer to come into camp and
compete.</p>Ah, my RF friend but when you combine a strategy of buying low with a great eye for talent (JR has scouting in his blood) you have something truly special! My point is that even if you know his strategy, you can't excute it without knowing exactly which players to bring in.

You are absolutely correct and this is why I dust off Reese's pedestal daily [;)]

B&RWarrior
04-03-2012, 06:06 PM
The master at work. Notice the one year deals to keep money free to sign the big boys- Cruz and Nicks.

Flip Empty
04-03-2012, 06:11 PM
I think the one-year deals are out of necessity rather than strategy. They simply have no choice.

B&RWarrior
04-03-2012, 06:25 PM
I think the one-year deals are out of necessity rather than strategy. They simply have no choice.

I didn't know we were that bad off. So is resigning Osi, Cruz, Nicks, and JPP a reality in the coming years?

JMFP2
04-03-2012, 08:11 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys. Thank you!!! This is what I been trying to point out for years, yet Coughlin is always on the hot seat. If u look at guys like Ward, he flourished in Coughlin and Gilbrides system. Yet all I hear is that Reese is the reason we won the Superbowls and Coughlin and Gilbride needs to go. Have some respect for the coaching staff....I think we have the best coaches in the league.</P>


</P>


Last season was nothing short of a coaching masterpiece by TC.....especially when you look at the injuries. </P>


It helped alot that his QB was pretty much lights-out the entire season.....Cruz was a huge part of that.</P>


And people goof about it, but getting Chase Blackburn back was a huge step forward....it was like the Keystone Kops out there before they re-signed him.</P>

RoanokeFan
04-03-2012, 08:25 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys. Thank you!!! This is what I been trying to point out for years, yet Coughlin is always on the hot seat. If u look at guys like Ward, he flourished in Coughlin and Gilbrides system. Yet all I hear is that Reese is the reason we won the Superbowls and Coughlin and Gilbride needs to go. Have some respect for the coaching staff....I think we have the best coaches in the league.</p>


</p>


Last season was nothing short of a coaching masterpiece by TC.....especially when you look at the injuries. </p>


It helped alot that his QB was pretty much lights-out the entire season.....Cruz was a huge part of that.</p>


And people goof about it, but getting Chase Blackburn back was a huge step forward....it was like the Keystone Kops out there before they re-signed him.</p>

I have to agree.

hungrrrry
04-03-2012, 09:33 PM
Coughlin deserves alot of credit for getting the most out of these bargin bin guys.

A point well made and often overlooked
not by this guy!!!

Drez
04-03-2012, 09:59 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.
Agree with this.
And neither Boss nor Smith are playing (or not playing) for "bargain basement deals".
Boss isn't. Smith pretty much is. He only has $1.5m guaranteed on his 1 year deal.

RoanokeFan
04-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.
Agree with this.
And neither Boss nor Smith are playing (or not playing) for "bargain basement deals".
Boss isn't. Smith pretty much is. He only has $1.5m guaranteed on his 1 year deal.


Boss got a three year deal with the Chiefs

Drez
04-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.
Agree with this.
And neither Boss nor Smith are playing (or not playing) for "bargain basement deals".
Boss isn't. Smith pretty much is. He only has $1.5m guaranteed on his 1 year deal.


Boss got a three year deal with the Chiefs

Yeah, he got a good deal. 3 years, $3m a year (avg). So, he's not on a bargain basement deal.

Smith is, though. He's still on a show-me contract.

NY_Eli
04-03-2012, 11:35 PM
Sell high? Wrong analogy there, we don't get anything back when they are free agents.

The better analogy would be that the Giants are a farming system for other teams.

Next up I'm sure is Cruz.

We get supplemental draft picks.