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tdawg1413
04-04-2012, 04:34 PM
Hey guys, Here is an outside the box sort of mock:

I have us trading down with Cleveland and ending up with 2 2nd, 2 3rd and 2 4th rounders. Trade details below:
Cle gets pick #32 in the first round and our 7th rounder
Giants get pick #37 in the second round and Cleveland's 3rd rounder as well.

Draft

2A - Doug Martin - RB Boise St. - We traded down and got an extra 3rd and still acquired a stud RB to platoon with AB and eventually ascend to our #1 back. Martin can do it all and would be a great pickup here.

2B - Bobbie Massie - OT Mississippi - Massie fills a big need and I believe he would start day 1 at RT. BPA and need filled with this pick.

3A - Marvin Jones - WR California - Jones has had a great offseason and I feel will fit the Mario role to a tee. He is also insurance in case we lose Cruz or Nicks at some point.

3B - Mike Martin - DT Michigan - Martin is a beast and will fit nicely in our rotation with a chance at being a starter down the road.

4A - Jerry Franklin - LB Arkansas - Franklin is a tackling machine and has the versatility to play either outside or the middle. Good value here

4B - Ron Brooks - CB LSU - Brooks has the tools to be a starter at some point but was stuck behind Claiborne and the Honey Badger at LSU. Possible steal here

5 - David Paulson - TE Oregon - Paulson is a nice player who will fit in behind Bennett and the Bear with a chance at a bigger role in the future.

6 - Jamie Blatnick - DE Oklahoma State - Blatnick can take the Tolly role as the 4th DE and a chance to learn behind the best.

2012 Roster

Offense (25)
QB - Eli, Carr
RB - AB, Martin, Scott
FB - Hynoski
WR - Cruz, Nicks, Jones, Jernigan, Barden, Hixon
TE - Bennett, Pascoe, Paulson
LT - Beatty, Diehl
LG - Petrus, Boothe
C - Baas
RG - Snee, Cordle
RT - Massie, Brewer
K- Tynes

Defense (28)
DE - Osi, JPP, Tuck, Blatnick
DT - Canty, Joseph, Martin, Austin
OLB - Boley, Williams
MLB - Goff, Franklin, Herzlich
OLB - Kiwi, Pasyinger
CB - Webster, TT, Prince, Brooks, Tryon, Coe
S - Rolle, Sash
S - Phillips, Brown, Chad Jones
P - Weatherford
LS - DeOssie

What do you guys think?

myles2424
04-04-2012, 05:16 PM
Lovin the Doug Martin pick/ trading down...
But, I'd much rather Grab a LB like Nigel Bradham in the 3rd instead of Franklin..

critters
04-04-2012, 05:38 PM
I like it. Don't like Brooks in the 4th though and would rather see Egnew in the 3rd maybe instead of Paulson later. Overall pretty solid IMO.

lawl
04-04-2012, 06:03 PM
Now this would be a sweet draft.

paul007
04-04-2012, 06:08 PM
I like round 2. I think we can do better at WR in round 3. I believe we also need another interior lineman for depth.

tdawg1413
04-04-2012, 10:40 PM
I see our needs at MLB being a little higher than OLB, which is why I don't see Bradham on our radar.

Shockeystays08
04-04-2012, 11:18 PM
Hey guys, Here is an outside the box sort of mock:

I have us trading down with Cleveland and ending up with 2 2nd, 2 3rd and 2 4th rounders. Trade details below:
Cle gets pick #32 in the first round and our 7th rounder
Giants get pick #37 in the second round and Cleveland's 3rd rounder as well.

Draft

2A - Doug Martin - RB Boise St. - We traded down and got an extra 3rd and still acquired a stud RB to platoon with AB and eventually ascend to our #1 back. Martin can do it all and would be a great pickup here.

2B - Bobbie Massie - OT
Mississippi - Massie fills a big need and I believe he would start day 1 at RT. BPA and need filled with this pick.

3A - Marvin Jones - WR California - Jones has had a great offseason
and I feel will fit the Mario role to a tee. He is also insurance in
case we lose Cruz or Nicks at some point.

3B - Mike
Martin - DT Michigan - Martin is a beast and will fit nicely in our
rotation with a chance at being a starter down the road.


4A - Jerry Franklin - LB Arkansas - Franklin is a tackling
machine and has the versatility to play either outside or the
middle. Good value here

4B - Ron Brooks - CB LSU -
Brooks has the tools to be a starter at some point but was stuck
behind Claiborne and the Honey Badger at LSU. Possible steal
here

5 - David Paulson - TE Oregon - Paulson is a nice
player who will fit in behind Bennett and the Bear with a chance
at a bigger role in the future.

6 - Jamie Blatnick - DE
Oklahoma State - Blatnick can take the Tolly role as the 4th DE
and a chance to learn behind the best.

2012 Roster


Offense (25)
QB - Eli, Carr
RB - AB, Martin,
Scott
FB - Hynoski
WR - Cruz, Nicks, Jones, Jernigan,
Barden, Hixon
TE - Bennett, Pascoe, Paulson
LT -
Beatty, Diehl
LG - Petrus, Boothe
C - Baas
RG -
Snee, Cordle
RT - Massie, Brewer
K- Tynes


Defense (28)
DE - Osi, JPP, Tuck, Blatnick
DT -
Canty, Joseph, Martin, Austin
OLB - Boley, Williams
MLB
- Goff, Franklin, Herzlich
OLB - Kiwi, Pasyinger
CB -
Webster, TT, Prince, Brooks, Tryon, Coe
S - Rolle,
Sash
S - Phillips, Brown, Chad Jones
P -
Weatherford
LS - DeOssie

What do you guys think?



You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

slipknottin
04-04-2012, 11:20 PM
The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

Have they now? I have not heard this.

gmen0820
04-04-2012, 11:21 PM
I love the first four, downhill from there though.

Kruunch
04-05-2012, 10:20 AM
You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

Immediate plans = training camp.

Regular season is a whole different bag of beans.

Sinorice Moss should have taught you that.

Kruunch
04-05-2012, 10:26 AM
I like the trade although it will never happen (we just don't trade out of the first).

The picks I don't like:

Ron Brooks - a bit small for what we like in CB and a 6th round prospect ... why reach?

Mike Martin - Undersized DT ... no thanks.

Otherwise I like it [b]

tdawg1413
04-05-2012, 12:32 PM
Hey guys, Here is an outside the box sort of mock:

I have us trading down with Cleveland and ending up with 2 2nd, 2 3rd and 2 4th rounders. Trade details below:
Cle gets pick #32 in the first round and our 7th rounder
Giants get pick #37 in the second round and Cleveland's 3rd rounder as well.

Draft

2A - Doug Martin - RB Boise St. - We traded down and got an extra 3rd and still acquired a stud RB to platoon with AB and eventually ascend to our #1 back. Martin can do it all and would be a great pickup here.

2B - Bobbie Massie - OT
Mississippi - Massie fills a big need and I believe he would start day 1 at RT. BPA and need filled with this pick.

3A - Marvin Jones - WR California - Jones has had a great offseason
and I feel will fit the Mario role to a tee. He is also insurance in
case we lose Cruz or Nicks at some point.

3B - Mike
Martin - DT Michigan - Martin is a beast and will fit nicely in our
rotation with a chance at being a starter down the road.


4A - Jerry Franklin - LB Arkansas - Franklin is a tackling
machine and has the versatility to play either outside or the
middle. Good value here

4B - Ron Brooks - CB LSU -
Brooks has the tools to be a starter at some point but was stuck
behind Claiborne and the Honey Badger at LSU. Possible steal
here

5 - David Paulson - TE Oregon - Paulson is a nice
player who will fit in behind Bennett and the Bear with a chance
at a bigger role in the future.

6 - Jamie Blatnick - DE
Oklahoma State - Blatnick can take the Tolly role as the 4th DE
and a chance to learn behind the best.

2012 Roster


Offense (25)
QB - Eli, Carr
RB - AB, Martin,
Scott
FB - Hynoski
WR - Cruz, Nicks, Jones, Jernigan,
Barden, Hixon
TE - Bennett, Pascoe, Paulson
LT -
Beatty, Diehl
LG - Petrus, Boothe
C - Baas
RG -
Snee, Cordle
RT - Massie, Brewer
K- Tynes


Defense (28)
DE - Osi, JPP, Tuck, Blatnick
DT -
Canty, Joseph, Martin, Austin
OLB - Boley, Williams
MLB
- Goff, Franklin, Herzlich
OLB - Kiwi, Pasyinger
CB -
Webster, TT, Prince, Brooks, Tryon, Coe
S - Rolle,
Sash
S - Phillips, Brown, Chad Jones
P -
Weatherford
LS - DeOssie

What do you guys think?



You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

I have not heard this. If the players we drafted are better than the in-house options, then they will start. I believe that Massie and Jones are better than Brewer and Jernigan.

tdawg1413
04-05-2012, 12:33 PM
I like the trade although it will never happen (we just don't trade out of the first).

The picks I don't like:

Ron Brooks - a bit small for what we like in CB and a 6th round prospect ... why reach?

Mike Martin - Undersized DT ... no thanks.

Otherwise I like it [b]

I usually go by this site as my guideline and it has Brooks as a 3rd rounder, which I feel is a bit high but better than the 6th for me.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=CB&draftyear=2012&sortby=tsxpos &order=ASC&startspot=10

Also, Martin is short but at about 305, he could be a good UT in our rotation. He is strong as an ox though.

Shockeystays08
04-05-2012, 12:52 PM
You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

Immediate plans = training camp.

Regular season is a whole different bag of beans.

Sinorice Moss should have taught you that.

Comparing Moss and Jernigan is like comparing Ryan Leaf and Eli Manning. Imo. Reese drafted Jernigan to play not observe. Reese does not invest #3 picks as back -ups. Jernigan will have the chance to be the #3 b4 any others and he will win the job as expected. Seems about 70 - 80 % of the folks on this board recognize Jernigan has got a great shot to be a good one for us. The others are kinda thickheaded about it. Thing is it's ok to have a difference of opinion. If we all agreed on everything = what a bore. Brewster was a #4 and is being groomed to play for Mac. I know Reese has made mention that he expects good things from Brewster and that's not as a bench warmer. I'm all for getting great players and position competition but to state that 2 rookies are going to come in and beat out Jernigan and Brewster just sounds like a stretch!

Shockeystays08
04-05-2012, 12:58 PM
You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

Immediate plans = training camp.

Regular season is a whole different bag of beans.

Sinorice Moss should have taught you that.

Comparing Moss and Jernigan is like comparing Ryan Leaf and Eli Manning. Imo. Reese drafted Jernigan to play not observe. Reese does not invest #3 picks as back -ups. Jernigan will have the chance to be the #3 b4 any others and he will win the job as expected. Seems about 70 - 80 % of the folks on this board recognize Jernigan has got a great shot to be a good one for us. The others are kinda thickheaded about it. Thing is it's ok to have a difference of opinion. If we all agreed on everything = what a bore. Brewster was a #4 and is being groomed to play for Mac. I know Reese has made mention that he expects good things from Brewster and that's not as a bench warmer. I'm all for getting great players and position competition but to state that 2 rookies are going to come in and beat out Jernigan and Brewster just sounds like a stretch!

I have no idea who Brewster is? My bad!

Kruunch
04-05-2012, 02:09 PM
You have both Brewer and Jernigan behind your rookie tackle and WR. The Giants brass have made it clear that Brewer and Jernigan are in their immediate plans.two rookies are not coming in and supplanting them on the depth chart. Ain't happening!

Immediate plans = training camp.

Regular season is a whole different bag of beans.

Sinorice Moss should have taught you that.

Comparing Moss and Jernigan is like comparing Ryan Leaf and Eli Manning. Imo. Reese drafted Jernigan to play not observe. Reese does not invest #3 picks as back -ups. Jernigan will have the chance to be the #3 b4 any others and he will win the job as expected. Seems about 70 - 80 % of the folks on this board recognize Jernigan has got a great shot to be a good one for us. The others are kinda thickheaded about it. Thing is it's ok to have a difference of opinion. If we all agreed on everything = what a bore. Brewster was a #4 and is being groomed to play for Mac. I know Reese has made mention that he expects good things from Brewster and that's not as a bench warmer. I'm all for getting great players and position competition but to state that 2 rookies are going to come in and beat out Jernigan and Brewster just sounds like a stretch!

Brewer (heh) hasn't even sniffed the field yet and Jernigan hasn't shown he can do more then drop a slant.

They COULD be starters this year and they could be total bench warmers. It's who materializes that matters (and many times that starts in the preseason). If Cruz doesn't have a huge game against the Jets in the preseason of 2010 (started off by an obvious offensive pass interference I might add), he's not on a roster last year.

Point is we don't know. It's not inconceivable that a rookie this year could beat out second and third year bench warmers. And vica versa of course.

And Reese has mentioned Brewers name ONCE since drafting him ... and that was as an explanation for releasing KM as expected.

What did you expect him to say ... Brewer is a fat lard and we're going to draft two OTs in the first three rounds?!

Kruunch
04-05-2012, 02:12 PM
I like the trade although it will never happen (we just don't trade out of the first).

The picks I don't like:

Ron Brooks - a bit small for what we like in CB and a 6th round prospect ... why reach?

Mike Martin - Undersized DT ... no thanks.

Otherwise I like it [b]

I usually go by this site as my guideline and it has Brooks as a 3rd rounder, which I feel is a bit high but better than the 6th for me.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=CB&draftyear=2012&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC&startspot=10

Also, Martin is short but at about 305, he could be a good UT in our rotation. He is strong as an ox though.


Yeah I don't see a guy who had mediocre measurables and game tape being a 3rd rounder (but maybe some teams don't get past his 40 time).

Martin doesn't do much for me but its all about game day eventually.

ryan12
04-11-2012, 11:42 AM
Lovin the Doug Martin pick/ trading down... But, I'd much rather Grab a LB like Nigel Bradham in the 3rd instead of Franklin..</P>


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