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RoanokeFan
04-09-2012, 09:35 PM
PAYTON'S SUSPENSION APPLIES BROADLY, BUT GOOD LUCK ENFORCING IT (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/09/paytons-suspension-applies-broadly-but-good-luck-enforcing-it/related/)

"So with Saints coach Sean Paytonís suspension commencing on April 16, what
exactly will he be allowed, and not allowed, to do?


As one source with knowledge of the situation explained it to PFT, itís a
broad suspension, prohibiting all coaching of the team and its players, whether
in the teamís facility, at Paytonís home, or anywhere else.</p>


Payton canít be involved in any decisions relating to the team. And he canít
engage in any football or operations communications with members of the
organization via phone or electronic device, including secret social media
accounts.</p>


The real question is the extent to which the NFL will go to enforce the terms
of the suspension. Much of the process will have to proceed on the honor
system, given the various ways that people can exchange information and messages
via the Internet and engage in real-time conversations via second cell phones.
Unless the NFL plans to use 24-hour surveillance, thereís no way of knowing
whether Payton is secretly talking to quarterback Drew Brees (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/591/drew-brees),
whether Payton is receiving copies of game film tucked inside pizza boxes, or
whether heís answering questions from offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr.
by direct message on a pair of dummy Twitter accounts.</p>


If sufficiently discreet, the Saints and Payton can do whatever they want,
especially since it appears that personal, non-football communications will be
permitted (but, as we understand it, there will be only limited and narrow
communications permitted). Since discreet is something the Saints most
definitely werenít while maintaining a bounty system, chances are that if the
league senses that something is going on and the league starts sniffing around,
the league will find enough evidence to prove a violation.</p>


The best way to ensure that there will be no violations will be to explain to
the Saints and Payton and any non-players who may be tempted to interact with
Payton that the punishments will be swift and extreme. Though it may be harder
for the league to take such a stance regarding Saints players given the CBA, the
threat of a longer suspension of Payton should be enough to get him to comply,
if the NFL makes it crystal clear to Payton that his future career is hinging on
his ability to truly disconnect from the organization for a full season."</p>

Ntegrase96
04-09-2012, 11:50 PM
I was thinking the same thing when they handed down the suspension. It's harsh, but I somehow doubt it will be completely effective.

And depending on how much Payton really knew about what was going on, he may not have the ethical fortitude to uphold an 'honor system'.

The smart move would be to let the Saints tank without him so he can keep his job... which is partly why I think he appointed Parcells. A big name that's not going to do much with the team would keep Payton's job secure.

giantsforce
04-16-2012, 05:18 PM
PAYTON'S SUSPENSION APPLIES BROADLY, BUT GOOD LUCK ENFORCING IT (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/09/paytons-suspension-applies-broadly-but-good-luck-enforcing-it/related/)

"So with Saints coach Sean Paytonís suspension commencing on April 16, what
exactly will he be allowed, and not allowed, to do?


As one source with knowledge of the situation explained it to PFT, itís a
broad suspension, prohibiting all coaching of the team and its players, whether
in the teamís facility, at Paytonís home, or anywhere else.</p>


Payton canít be involved in any decisions relating to the team. And he canít
engage in any football or operations communications with members of the
organization via phone or electronic device, including secret social media
accounts.</p>


The real question is the extent to which the NFL will go to enforce the terms
of the suspension. Much of the process will have to proceed on the honor
system, given the various ways that people can exchange information and messages
via the Internet and engage in real-time conversations via second cell phones.
Unless the NFL plans to use 24-hour surveillance, thereís no way of knowing
whether Payton is secretly talking to quarterback Drew Brees (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/591/drew-brees),
whether Payton is receiving copies of game film tucked inside pizza boxes, or
whether heís answering questions from offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr.
by direct message on a pair of dummy Twitter accounts.</p>


If sufficiently discreet, the Saints and Payton can do whatever they want,
especially since it appears that personal, non-football communications will be
permitted (but, as we understand it, there will be only limited and narrow
communications permitted). Since discreet is something the Saints most
definitely werenít while maintaining a bounty system, chances are that if the
league senses that something is going on and the league starts sniffing around,
the league will find enough evidence to prove a violation.</p>


The best way to ensure that there will be no violations will be to explain to
the Saints and Payton and any non-players who may be tempted to interact with
Payton that the punishments will be swift and extreme. Though it may be harder
for the league to take such a stance regarding Saints players given the CBA, the
threat of a longer suspension of Payton should be enough to get him to comply,
if the NFL makes it crystal clear to Payton that his future career is hinging on
his ability to truly disconnect from the organization for a full season."</p>
The NFL does not need to monitor the Saints. I am sure there will be someone willing to blow the whistle again. And if the Saints and Payton take the chance and break the suspension rules and get caught, then you will never see Payton coach again in the NFL and the Saints will pay a hefty price.

slipknottin
04-16-2012, 07:36 PM
Saints probably figured they couldnt catch them and couldnt enforce anything with the bounty investigation either.

Its in the saints best interest to keep Payton away, if hes caught lying to the nhl again, he may be banned forever.