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T-Murda84
12-10-2011, 06:07 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Spizi
12-10-2011, 06:10 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!

Ruttiger711
12-10-2011, 06:40 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!

Exactly! It's not so much about the lack of a blitz, it's the time that the 3 man rush gives to these elite qb's.

miked1958
12-10-2011, 06:46 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.


Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!
Osi has been out of lineup for two weeks? Or at least part of saints game and all of GB game.
I also think he has been ruled out for Sundays game as well

BParcells777
12-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Why not.....they look a lot less elite on their backs

you have to mix it up with these guys and sometimes just bring the house

RoanokeFan
12-10-2011, 08:02 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!

We don't have Osi and, until last week, Tuck had issues. I'm banking on JPP, Tuck, Kiwanuka and Tollefson to get us into the playoffs with some more help from Canty and Joseph. Key on defense is Boley being on the field.

NYGiants2120
12-10-2011, 08:08 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!

We don't have Osi and, until last week, Tuck had issues.* I'm banking on JPP, Tuck, Kiwanuka and Tollefson to get us into the playoffs with some more help from Canty and Joseph.* Key on defense is Boley being on the field.
Yourlast sentence is beyond true. Hopefully he feels a little more comfortable this week. We need boley and our front 4. Its funny how people wanted boley out of here last year but he has really really proved his worth now

RoanokeFan
12-10-2011, 08:15 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

Ok but why aren't we using a 4 man rush?!?!

We have Osi Tuck JPP and Kiwi!!!

We don't have Osi and, until last week, Tuck had issues. I'm banking on JPP, Tuck, Kiwanuka and Tollefson to get us into the playoffs with some more help from Canty and Joseph. Key on defense is Boley being on the field.
Yourlast sentence is beyond true. Hopefully he feels a little more comfortable this week. We need boley and our front 4. Its funny how people wanted boley out of here last year but he has really really proved his worth now

I hope he can play the whole game this week. He's the glue holding the defense together.

JMFP2
12-10-2011, 08:29 PM
I hated watchingOsi backpedalinto coverage when Sheridan was DC......this season, I'm watchingTuck backpedal into coverage with Fewell.</P>


Enough with that bull****.</P>


I understand you can't send the house on every play. But 3rd and long....dial up the ****ing heat, and jam your guy at the line. How difficult is that?</P>

Drez
12-10-2011, 08:48 PM
I hated watchingOsi backpedalinto coverage when Sheridan was DC......this season, I'm watchingTuck backpedal into coverage with Fewell.</P>


Enough with that bull****.</P>


I understand you can't send the house on every play. But 3rd and long....dial up the ****ing heat, and jam your guy at the line. How difficult is that?</P>


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Both Tuck and Osi dropped in coverage frequently when Spags was here, too. Only difference is the blitz/pressure got to the QB on time.</P>


To the OP: But, as much as you can't blitz too much, you can't afford to give an elite QB too much time, either.</P>

buddy33
12-10-2011, 09:23 PM
With a 4 man rush they should rotate between Cany and Joseph with Tuck, Kiwi, and JPP. Just because Osi is out that doesn't mean they can't rush 4 and they where not doing it with Osi anyway. At least not enough it seemed.

DandyDon
12-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Superbowl XLII. A Prime example of why the title of this thread is BS.

NYSPORTS
12-10-2011, 10:54 PM
Is that why the Giants beat Brady by rushing him yet lost to Grossman and Whitehurst by not pressuring them?

DandyDon
12-10-2011, 10:58 PM
I think Brady, Peyton and Rodgers ghost-wrote that article ;-)

T-Murda84
12-11-2011, 02:16 AM
Tom Brady's style was a little different in 07. In 07, Tom Brady was throwing alot of deep balls to Moss. Tom Brady reverted back to using his tight ends and Wes Welker in a dink and dunk style of offense. We got physical with Tom Bradys receivers this year...and Brady missed alot of throws when we played them this year.

Quick passes offenses destroys aggressive defenses. This is why u dont see the 46 defense played anymore because of the emergence of the West Coast Offense. I think this is why alot of teams switched to the 3-4, because u want a stud linebacker than can rush the passer and drop into coverage on quick throws....like Clay Matthews did to us last Sunday when he got a sack and returned a pick 6 on a flat route throw to Bradshaw.

I do not mind a 3man rush against a QB who runs 3 step drops all game, a QB that runs, or a QB that utilizes quick passes out of shotgun, or an offense centered around a tight end.

If we can get more of our linemen to play like JPP, we can run 3 man rushes without a problem. U see more 3 man rushes around the league, or 4 man lines that drop their DT. Watch the Steelers sometimes....they dont even rush Casey Hampton, he usually covers the middle in passes.

SweetZombieJesus
12-11-2011, 08:42 AM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6961373/beating-blitz


And people cry about 3man rushes....u cant not blitz elite QBs like that.

You also can't give them all day to throw because they WILL find someone open with time.

Or pull it down and run, and oh, guess what, a 3 man rush with 5 blockers means open lanes.