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RoanokeFan
04-21-2012, 10:02 AM
GIANTS' MICHAEL BOLEY WAS NFL'S BEST TACKLER IN 2011 (http://www.giants101.com/2012/04/21/new-york-giants-michael-boley-was-nfls-best-tackler-in-2011/)

"When the debate about the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)'s elite tacklers surfaces around the water cooler on
Monday mornings, the names of Brian Urlacher, Von Miller, Ray Lewis and Patrick
Willis are the most likely to be mentioned. And as talented as each of those
players are, none of them was statistically considered the best tackler in pro
football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/) a
year ago. In fact, that honor went to someone who is infrequently considered one
of the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)'s best: New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
Giants linebacker <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Michael Boley" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/michael-boley/" rel="tag nofollow">Michael
Boley</a>.



In an editorial that was recently published on Football Outsiders (http://footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2012/broken-tackles-2011-part-ii), Aaron Schatz ran
down the statistical analysis of the premiere tacklers in the league during the
2011-2012 season. Sitting alone at the top was Boley, who collected 76 total
tackles, allowing only one tackle to be broken all year (1.3%).</p>


The 1.3% broken tackle rate by Boley led the league, with Indianapolis Colts
linebacker Philip Wheeler and Denver Broncos safety Chris Harris tied at second
with a rate of 1.6%.</p>
<blockquote>


"<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Michael Boley" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/michael-boley/" rel="tag nofollow">Michael
Boley</a>'s one broken tackle in 2011 matches his one broken tackle in 2010. Yet
you never really hear Boley's name mentioned when analysts talk about the best
tacklers in football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/),"
Schatz wrote.</p></blockquote>


In addition to Boley, fellow linebacker <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Mathias Kiwanuka" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/mathias-kiwanuka/" rel="tag nofollow">Mathias
Kiwanuka</a> was near the top of the list at 2.9% (two broken tackles, 66 total
tackles), as was cornerback <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Aaron Ross" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/aaron-ross/" rel="tag nofollow">Aaron
Ross</a> at 1.9% (one broken tackles, 51 total tackles). Ross, of course, is now with the Jacksonville Jaguars (http://www.giants101.com/2012/03/20/aaron-ross-agrees-to-three-year-deal-with-jacksonville-jaguars/).</p>


As a team, the Giants tied with the San Francisco 49ers for the league lead,
allowing only 3.8% of their tackles to be broken. 40 players on Big Blue
registered at least one tackle broken, which was second in the league to the
49ers (37 players). The Tampa Bay Buccaneers led the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) allowing
9.0% of their tackles to be broken.</p>
The Philadelphia Eagles were 31st in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) allowing 8.1% of their tackles to be broken, the
Washington Redskins were 18th in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) allowing 5.3% of their tackles to be broken and the
Dallas Cowboys were 12th in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) allowing 5.1% of their tackles to be broken."

Flip Empty
04-21-2012, 10:07 AM
Nice stat. Anyone know who broke that tackle?

NY_Eli
04-21-2012, 10:07 AM
I think when JR signed Boley everyone expected him to make a big jump with the gmen. Took a year or two, but he's definitely the best linebacker on the team. Great player.

Mod_C
04-21-2012, 10:10 AM
Good to see Boley getting some recognition.

fourth&forever
04-21-2012, 10:13 AM
Great to have Boley healthy last year.

zimonami
04-21-2012, 10:14 AM
TY for this, ROA. I never ever would have guessed... especially that our reluctant wariior, Ross, was up there, too.
Props to Boley, Kiwi, and Ross. Solid stats and surely a contributing factor why we are the SB Champs.

RoanokeFan
04-21-2012, 10:24 AM
TY for this, ROA. I never ever would have guessed... especially that our reluctant wariior, Ross, was up there, too.
Props to Boley, Kiwi, and Ross. Solid stats and surely a contributing factor why we are the SB Champs.

In that same article the GIANTS are tied with the 49ers for the League lead in the same category. That surprised me.

zimonami
04-21-2012, 10:50 AM
TY for this, ROA. I never ever would have guessed... especially that our reluctant wariior, Ross, was up there, too.
Props to Boley, Kiwi, and Ross. Solid stats and surely a contributing factor why we are the SB Champs.

In that same article the GIANTS are tied with the 49ers for the League lead in the same category.* That surprised me.

Surprised me, too.
Then I started reviewing the memory banks of this year and really couldn't remember any that ticked me off. There wasn't a defining play where we missed tackles that cost us in any game, like the Jackson PR in '10 that killed us.
Turnovers, missed catches (reminds me of Ernest Grey missing Simms passes), and missed tackles... these are the things you don't notice as much as the great catch, big sack, or pick six... but you can't win with little mistakes. I think it's a product of good coaching putting emphasis on the little things, and focus and desire by the players. TC can use that stat to his advantage, while he praises the guys for doing the "little things" that mean a ring

giantyankee1976
04-21-2012, 11:25 AM
I think when JR signed Boley everyone expected him to make a big jump with the gmen. Took a year or two, but he's definitely the best linebacker on the team. Great player.

+ 1

I lamented over Kawika, but Mike Boley has turned out to be a solid pickup.

that's JR's M.O in my opinion, doesn't go after the "big names" but rather pursues the second-tier guys that in the right system, flourish.

hungrrrry
04-21-2012, 11:33 AM
Inspiring stat but blown coverages and outright wiffs are an unmentioned stat in this. However, other teams have those too I suppose

GIANTSACK
04-21-2012, 12:54 PM
Inspiring stat but blown coverages and outright wiffs are an unmentioned stat in this. However, other teams have those too I suppose


I knew boley was underestimatd but Ross shock me.

tuck&rolle
04-21-2012, 04:54 PM
I always thought that when Ross was fired up he was a hard hitter.

Case in point- watch his run defense in Super Bowl 46. Made some great plays

nhpgiantsfan
04-21-2012, 09:22 PM
Yep, people will miss Ross.

zimonami
04-21-2012, 09:37 PM
Yep, people will miss Ross.
I rarely criticize any player. I slammed Ross in preseason, saying I hoped he was cut... all stemming from that time a few years ago when he said he wasn't enthusiastic about playing anymore. I thought that was exactly the way he played.
But, not this season. He did a great job, and his run support was his best ever. You have to have heart to tackle these RB's after they've cleared the LOS.
Thank you for stepping up this past season, AR. You will be missed.

B&RWarrior
04-21-2012, 10:54 PM
Tackling was never our problem. We weren't in a position to make plays in our worst defensive efforts. I think sometimes it was the scheme and other times it was a lack of coverage skills.</P>


Ross was always a physical tackler, but we won't miss him b/c TT is even more physical.</P>

GreenZone
04-22-2012, 12:20 AM
What's rather interesting is how these stats don't mesh with the position finished by team regarding total yards allowed.

So, when Aaron Ross sat back and gave up a large percentage of passes against (63% is what was said, I believe), he was sure to make the tackle thereafter. I'd have to say that in some measure, this stat can sometimes indicate a lack of risk taking.

In any given season would you rather have better tackling stats or better turnover ratio or better yards against team stats?

Spytheweb
04-22-2012, 02:28 AM
I like MB because he's mean &amp; nasty.

B&RWarrior
04-22-2012, 05:35 PM
What's rather interesting is how these stats don't mesh with the position finished by team regarding total yards allowed.

So, when Aaron Ross sat back and gave up a large percentage of passes against (63% is what was said, I believe), he was sure to make the tackle thereafter. I'd have to say that in some measure, this stat can sometimes indicate a lack of risk taking.

In any given season would you rather have better tackling stats or better turnover ratio or better yards against team stats?
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For Ross this stat is an improvement in his play from past years. He always had a problem covering receivers consistently after his rookie year, but this year he limited the big play during our playoff run. Instead of gambling on an interception he may or may not be able to make, he takes the sure tackle if he's not in position to make a play on the ball. It's better than giving up 6.</P>


TT was and will be a target for other teams as well in the same way Ross was. He will also have high tackle numbers. He lacks the speed to stay with most WRs on intermediate and long routes, but he's a great tackler.</P>

NJAquaman
04-22-2012, 06:53 PM
I seriously doubt Aaron Ross at 1.9%....maybe because he whiffed completely may times...

RoanokeFan
04-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Inspiring stat but blown coverages and outright wiffs are an unmentioned stat in this. However, other teams have those too I suppose

A player can't break a tackle that doesn't happen.

Mod_C
04-22-2012, 06:59 PM
I seriously doubt Aaron Ross at 1.9%....maybe because he whiffed completely may times...

There has to have been contact in order for a player to break the tackle so missed assignments of completely missing the other player are not factored in.

nhpgiantsfan
04-22-2012, 09:26 PM
What's rather interesting is how these stats don't mesh with the position finished by team regarding total yards allowed.

So, when Aaron Ross sat back and gave up a large percentage of passes against (63% is what was said, I believe), he was sure to make the tackle thereafter. I'd have to say that in some measure, this stat can sometimes indicate a lack of risk taking.

In any given season would you rather have better tackling stats or better turnover ratio or better yards against team stats?
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Kind of like how so many people on this message board think TT is great because he led the team in tackles. Many don't see the bigger picture.</P>

slipknottin
04-22-2012, 09:28 PM
Kind of like how so many people on this message board think TT is great because he led the team in tackles.* Many don't see the bigger picture.</P>

Well T2 did lead the league in run support tackles, so that is certainly a positive. He did struggle out on the perimeter however.

The giants last preseason wanted T2 as the nickel corner, didnt want him out wide much. T2 is versatile enough to play safety, nickel, and some of the hybrid 3rd safety LB role similar to what Woodson plays.

NJAquaman
04-23-2012, 09:48 AM
I seriously doubt Aaron Ross at 1.9%....maybe because he whiffed completely may times...

There has to have been contact in order for a player to break the tackle so missed assignments of completely missing the other player are not factored in.*


Exactly...and a whiff is worse than a broken tackle...and Ross was a whiff specialist...

nygsb42champs
04-23-2012, 10:03 AM
Boley had a spectacular year for us.

NorwoodBlue
04-23-2012, 10:06 AM
I think this was a huge turn around from 2010. I remember missed tackles all over the place. Especially against Philly. I remember some runs by Philly where they broke 3 tackles on a single play.

Kudos to Boley and Kiwi, I think they're both really underrated as LB. Especially their pass coverage against TE.

RoanokeFan
04-23-2012, 11:10 AM
I think this was a huge turn around from 2010. I remember missed tackles all over the place. Especially against Philly. I remember some runs by Philly where they broke 3 tackles on a single play.

Kudos to Boley and Kiwi, I think they're both really underrated as LB. Especially their pass coverage against TE.


Very true, I was really surprised at the team stat in this category. Tied for first with the 49ers, not too shabby.

B&RWarrior
04-23-2012, 01:15 PM
I think this was a huge turn around from 2010. I remember missed tackles all over the place. Especially against Philly. I remember some runs by Philly where they broke 3 tackles on a single play.

Kudos to Boley and Kiwi, I think they're both really underrated as LB. Especially their pass coverage against TE.


Very true, I was really surprised at the team stat in this category. Tied for first with the 49ers, not too shabby.
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Kiwi is not underated in pass coverage they take him out of the game on passing downs and neither is Boley, in fact hewas known in Atlanta for his coverage of TEs. It's the major reason we brought him over from Atlanta.</P>

jhamburg
04-23-2012, 02:03 PM
So let's hear it from all the people talking about how Boley is only a coverage LB and is too small and soft to play the run...

smashndash715
04-23-2012, 06:45 PM
Was the one tackle broken by marshawn lynch?