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Antwuan
04-26-2012, 12:59 AM
So whats your official or final predictions for the #32 pick for the Giants in the 2012 Draft?

Axels15
04-26-2012, 01:01 AM
Ugh it's so hard to know who's going to make it there.

I'm gonna go with... Chandler Jones


Prob won't be there, but I can totally see them taking a DE

CDN_G-FAN
04-26-2012, 01:03 AM
peter king had a very 'giants' like pick in his mock.

Harrison Smith, Safety, Notre Dame.

"....a 47-game college starter and eager special-teamer will be too much for G.M. Jerry Reese to pass up."

with that first pick they usually grab something that positionally is suprising.

this fits that bill.

Martyr
04-26-2012, 01:05 AM
Doug Martin

TheEnigma
04-26-2012, 01:07 AM
Michael Brockers, DT from LSU.

Making a bold prediction here and think he could drop ala Prince due to his very raw pass rushing abilities as of now. Very big frame at 6'6 and 322lbs, he isn't done growing yet either. He could play occasional snaps for a year or two until Canty's time is up.

giantsfan420
04-26-2012, 01:27 AM
Michael Brockers, DT from LSU.

Making a bold prediction here and think he could drop ala Prince due to his very raw pass rushing abilities as of now. Very big frame at 6'6 and 322lbs, he isn't done growing yet either. He could play occasional snaps for a year or two until Canty's time is up.

no way he gets passed early 20's but it would be nice...

i've gone thru a bunch of mocks just to see who could drop...

one of em i had chandler jones dropping (i think he's gonna be the best defensive player from this draft), had kendall wright drop to us, of course i've had fleener drop to us, had one where jenkins would be available but i doubt we draft him, if he had no off field issues he'd be the 1 ranked DB imho...i like Mayocks mock where he has Martin dropping to us...

cannot wait til tmrw night...

and i think theres a mod who dislikes me or something, i made one draft post here and it was to let everyone know Mayock had Martin drop to us, within 5 min it was moved...i've had several posts moved for some reason and when another person makes the same post that got me moved, theres stays...eh whatev

GMenNY21
04-26-2012, 01:35 AM
I wanna say Doug Martin... But I believe it'll be Devon Still .. which is not bad either.

giantsfan420
04-26-2012, 01:37 AM
I wanna say Doug Martin... But I believe it'll be Devon Still .. which is not bad either.

am i the only one who feels he's a 2nd round prospect? i dont see him being worthy of a 1rst...especially if we could wait til the end of the 2nd maybe even 3rd and get reyes...

TheEnigma
04-26-2012, 01:46 AM
no way he gets passed early 20's but it would be nice...

i've gone thru a bunch of mocks just to see who could drop...

one of em i had chandler jones dropping (i think he's gonna be the best defensive player from this draft), had kendall wright drop to us, of course i've had fleener drop to us, had one where jenkins would be available but i doubt we draft him, if he had no off field issues he'd be the 1 ranked DB imho...i like Mayocks mock where he has Martin dropping to us...

cannot wait til tmrw night...

and i think theres a mod who dislikes me or something, i made one draft post here and it was to let everyone know Mayock had Martin drop to us, within 5 min it was moved...i've had several posts moved for some reason and when another person makes the same post that got me moved, theres stays...eh whatevI can't see Chandler Jones dropping at this point. Too many teams in the top 20 are reported to be in love with what this kid brings to the table and guys like Coples (motivation), Ingram (size and where does he fit?) and Upshaw (Lack of explosion and power) are all possibilities to be drafted after Jones.

Kendall Wright...He could be a good receiver but the question is what round/range is a good value for him? Would we even be talking about him if RG3 wasn't his QB? I think guys like Randle, Jeffery, and Sanu are better prospects but it's not like he's a bust either way.

Fleener would make me happy but I think too many teams will be interested to have him drop to us.

Jenkins...god no. NYC is the last place to bring knuckleheads in the round 1/2 area.

As for Brockers, let me go more in depth. Fletcher Cox at this point is the unanimous #1 selection at DT due to his superior pass rushing ability compared to the competition. It's sort of a toss up after that left to opinion. Poe doesn't show much in college production but some team is going to take chance on a 346lb man who has amazing speed and power for his size, hoping to get the next JPP. After that, it comes down to Worthy or Brockers and I see Worthy going to the Broncos since he fits that system pretty good.

And I think your stuff is being moved because it's about the NFL Draft and not general Giants news. I don't agree with it since the draft is this week, tomorrow even, but thems the rules I guess.

Martyr
04-26-2012, 01:50 AM
I wanna say Doug Martin... But I believe it'll be Devon Still .. which is not bad either.

am i the only one who feels he's a 2nd round prospect? i dont see him being worthy of a 1rst...especially if we could wait til the end of the 2nd maybe even 3rd and get reyes...

Its a matter of opinion but we do have the 32nd pick in the draft which is pretty much a 2nd round pick.

giantsfan420
04-26-2012, 01:56 AM
no way he gets passed early 20's but it would be nice...

i've gone thru a bunch of mocks just to see who could drop...

one of em i had chandler jones dropping (i think he's gonna be the best defensive player from this draft), had kendall wright drop to us, of course i've had fleener drop to us, had one where jenkins would be available but i doubt we draft him, if he had no off field issues he'd be the 1 ranked DB imho...i like Mayocks mock where he has Martin dropping to us...

cannot wait til tmrw night...

and i think theres a mod who dislikes me or something, i made one draft post here and it was to let everyone know Mayock had Martin drop to us, within 5 min it was moved...i've had several posts moved for some reason and when another person makes the same post that got me moved, theres stays...eh whatevI can't see Chandler Jones dropping at this point. Too many teams in the top 20 are reported to be in love with what this kid brings to the table and guys like Coples (motivation), Ingram (size and where does he fit?) and Upshaw (Lack of explosion and power) are all possibilities to be drafted after Jones.

Kendall Wright...He could be a good receiver but the question is what round/range is a good value for him? Would we even be talking about him if RG3 wasn't his QB? I think guys like Randle, Jeffery, and Sanu are better prospects but it's not like he's a bust either way.

Fleener would make me happy but I think too many teams will be interested to have him drop to us.

Jenkins...god no. NYC is the last place to bring knuckleheads in the round 1/2 area.

As for Brockers, let me go more in depth. Fletcher Cox at this point is the unanimous #1 selection at DT due to his superior pass rushing ability compared to the competition. It's sort of a toss up after that left to opinion. Poe doesn't show much in college production but some team is going to take chance on a 346lb man who has amazing speed and power for his size, hoping to get the next JPP. After that, it comes down to Worthy or Brockers and I see Worthy going to the Broncos since he fits that system pretty good.

And I think your stuff is being moved because it's about the NFL Draft and not general Giants news. I don't agree with it since the draft is this week, tomorrow even, but thems the rules I guess.

good post. i agree with ya except for K.Wright...if him being excellent depends on a great QB, we got one in Eli. He strikes me as a better MM...

Brockers would be nice as well...but still, even tho JR said he's worried bout Austin, we did spend a 2nd on him last yr and we have imho 2 excellent DT's starting already, and should be for a while. i actually had brockers going to either Philly or Tenn...but man i cant wait...do u know if they're gonna complete rd 1 no matter what or will they call it a night if it gets real late?

oh and about jenkins, it sucks about his off field issues bc i really believe he is the best DB prospect strictly on on-field play. when he was on UF, he shut down Blackmon, AJ Green, and i forget the other 2 wr's but they were the best in college football. he dominated the 4 best wr's in college football, i'd trust JR if we took a flier on him but it'd be a serious risk, but his upside is seriously high

edit- and i love randle at wr...part of me says take him at 32 even if we could get a top prospect at wr in the 2nd...a lt of people i trust like mayock, kossel, and gmen0820 have compared him to Nicks...could u imaging having 2 nicks and a cruz in the slot?????????

G-Men Surg.
04-26-2012, 02:04 AM
I wanna say Doug Martin... But I believe it'll be Devon Still .. which is not bad either.

am i the only one who feels he's a 2nd round prospect? i dont see him being worthy of a 1rst...especially if we could wait til the end of the 2nd maybe even 3rd and get reyes...

Its a matter of opinion but we do have the 32nd pick in the draft which is pretty much a 2nd round pick.
True unless someone slips all the way to 32 then your pick increases in value.

TheEnigma
04-26-2012, 02:05 AM
I don't think we can really put too much faith into Austin at this point with him being out of football for 2 straight seasons. The way I envisioned it is that in the future once Canty is gone, Joseph and Brockers would be our starters while Austin could come in for 3rd down pass situations.

Yeah, I like Randle as well and actually have him rated #3 for WR's. Versatile receivers are my favorites and adding him to our group makes the Giants have 3 really good guys who can do many things and offer a plethora of routes.

And round 1 will come to an end no matter what unless a car crashes through the place or something stupid.

MrDenmark
04-26-2012, 02:08 AM
Isn't it going to be that someone whoever surprisingly drops through the first round?

This was the case with Prince, I believe.

BluGiantPies
04-26-2012, 02:10 AM
Alshon Jeffery BC no one is talking about him and I think with proper motivation hell be the best wide receiver in this deep receiver class which is saying something. Don't buy the mock draft hype, dude was an absolute monster last year and would a been a top five pick had he had a decent qb this yr. People said nicks had weight issues coming out too. He is the real deal. U can all hate on me if u want too, but our passing offense would be insane and nearly unstopable with a wr that can get deep, and consistently win the jump ball battle. He reminds me of a mix between burress and Larry Fitzgerald. Imagine our passing offense this past year with plaxico in his prime instead of manningham. People also say he can't seaperate from dbs but he has sneaky deep speed, it may take him a few steps to get there but he's got it.

6-3 1/8 221lbs
4.51-4.61 40
35 inch vert

6-3 216 lbs
4.45 -4.54 40
36.5 inch vert
Tell me which is Jeffery and which is Fitzgerald. If u have the oppurtunity to get a player that could be anywhere as good as Larry Fitz at 32 u do it everyday of the week and twice on Sunday at least in my opinion.

VegasGmen
04-26-2012, 02:13 AM
Please let it be Doug Martin!! I would be a very happy camper getting the next Faulk. Martin is the only player projected in the 20's or 30's that would start for us day 1. Complete package that will fill a need.

G-Men Surg.
04-26-2012, 02:14 AM
Isn't it going to be that someone whoever surprisingly drops through the first round?

This was the case with Prince, I believe.

I do fell this way like every year as you mention, it all depends what player , what position ( need over value and vis. ) and if that player has the makings to be a giant kind of player, size and speed is a a trademark of Reese and Co. and character issues are always seem to be on the balance when JR makes his choice.

G-Men Surg.
04-26-2012, 02:16 AM
Please let it be Doug Martin!! I would be a very happy camper getting the next Faulk. Martin is the only player projected in the 20's or 30's that would start for us day 1. Complete package that will fill a need.
He seems to be a game changer but the one thing I'm afraid about his game is how he will handle the pass protection at the next level.

giantsfan420
04-26-2012, 03:03 AM
Please let it be Doug Martin!! I would be a very happy camper getting the next Faulk. Martin is the only player projected in the 20's or 30's that would start for us day 1. Complete package that will fill a need.
He seems to be a game changer but the one thing I'm afraid about his game is how he will handle the pass protection at the next level.

no need to worry about that, he's the best pass protecting rb in the draft. he's a 3 down back.

some one was comparing him to ray rice, but i feel he's more comparable to rashard mendenall

G-Men Surg.
04-26-2012, 03:09 AM
Please let it be Doug Martin!! I would be a very happy camper getting the next Faulk. Martin is the only player projected in the 20's or 30's that would start for us day 1. Complete package that will fill a need.
He seems to be a game changer but the one thing I'm afraid about his game is how he will handle the pass protection at the next level.

no need to worry about that, he's the best pass protecting rb in the draft. he's a 3 down back.

some one was comparing him to ray rice, but i feel he's more comparable to rashard mendenall
I've heard his analysis before and heard he is the complete package but that comes has a surprise for me . In my eyes that makes him a target at 32 .

Speaking of Martin you didn't sound convinced about drafting a RB in the 1st round bro, did Martin made a believer out of you.

dave56dj
04-26-2012, 05:00 AM
So hard to tell - I'm gonna pick 4.

Jerel Worthy/ Doug Martin/ Jonathan Martin/ Stephen Hill

DelawareGiants
04-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Would love to see the following 4 as options with preference to:

Doug Martin > B. Massie > Stephen Hill > D. Still

Great thing is no matter who we pick- we'll have nice options at other "need" postions in rounds 2-4 like----Turbin, Schwartz, Sanu, Criner, McNutt,Toon, Streeter, Mike Martin.

Its all good!

titwio
04-26-2012, 09:03 AM
What's my prediction? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJJMa3y0ek&feature=related)

Redeyejedi
04-26-2012, 09:48 AM
I thought it would be a DE before the season with who was becoming a FA. It still looks like DE is the most likely pick.

Redeyejedi
04-26-2012, 09:48 AM
Please let it be Doug Martin!! I would be a very happy camper getting the next Faulk. Martin is the only player projected in the 20's or 30's that would start for us day 1. Complete package that will fill a need.
He seems to be a game changer but the one thing I'm afraid about his game is how he will handle the pass protection at the next level.

no need to worry about that, he's the best pass protecting rb in the draft. he's a 3 down back.

some one was comparing him to ray rice, but i feel he's more comparable to rashard mendenallTrent Richardson is the best pass protecting back and its not even close. Aslk Devon Still how wel Richardson blocks

Kruunch
04-26-2012, 10:03 AM
I thought it would be a DE before the season with who was becoming a FA. It still looks like DE is the most likely pick.

I don't see a DE in this draft (the entire draft) that would fit the Giants well for what they like to pick.

Chandler Jones is the *possible* exception as a replacement for Tuck, but with Osi being the next DE to go (unless we re-sign him) he doesn't fit that elite rusher bill.

I think the Giants take a late round flyer on a project DE if they go DE at all this year (not very Giants like I know, I just don't see a DE that excites).

Jonathan Martin, Amini Silatolu, Doug Martin, Coby Fleener, Kendal Reyes, Devon Still ... I think one of those guys is our first round pick.

CDG's comments about Harrison Smith aren't far off, but I don't think the Giants go that route personally.

Redeyejedi
04-26-2012, 10:13 AM
I thought it would be a DE before the season with who was becoming a FA. It still looks like DE is the most likely pick.

I don't see a DE in this draft (the entire draft) that would fit the Giants well for what they like to pick.

Chandler Jones is the *possible* exception as a replacement for Tuck, but with Osi being the next DE to go (unless we re-sign him) he doesn't fit that elite rusher bill.

I think the Giants take a late round flyer on a project DE if they go DE at all this year (not very Giants like I know, I just don't see a DE that excites).

Jonathan Martin, Amini Silatolu, Doug Martin, Coby Fleener, Kendal Reyes, Devon Still ... I think one of those guys is our first round pick.

CDG's comments about Harrison Smith aren't far off, but I don't think the Giants go that route personally.Unless they are extending Osi I dont know how they could not take another 1. Both Kiwi and Osi are FA's, they lost 350 snaps with Tollefson. Unless they are going to rely on a rookie to play major snaps next season cant seem them ignoring it. Next year should have some serious edge rushers if the Juniors declare though

Shockeystays08
04-26-2012, 10:30 AM
I have had Harrison Smith as our first pick for a month now and I'm sticking to it! It all depends on who's there but I believe considering BPA & need if he's there with no other surprise drops he will be in Giant Blue.

Bighittz56
04-26-2012, 11:40 AM
Who I would take if they are there:

1. Fleener - Would give the Giants a dimension they have not had in a long time. Guy is a match-up nightmare at a need position (though we know how the Giants are about need vs BPA).
2. Hightower - Physical presence in the middle that we severely lack (Kuechly would be gone in this scenario, though he would be an ideal fit). Really doubt they would go this way. History of LBs that can run to the ball more than a thumper-type.
3. Wright - Proven playmaker opposite Nicks with Cruz in the slot would make our offense even more scary.
4. Martin - Like many are saying, the comparison to Rice is undeniable. Bradshaw is brittle no matter how many times he says he feels better than he ever has.

The recent trend for the Gmen has been playmakers in the 1st, and I hope the trend continues. That being said, Oline is becoming a glaring need. RT is MIA without resigning Mckenzie, unless you think Brewer is ready, or yo want to put Deihl there, which would leave us desparately thin everywhere. If they don't go Oline in the 1st, you can about bank on going that way in the 2nd/and or 3rd. I can also seriously see Lavonte David in Blue at the end of the day though. He seems like a Boley/Safety that can man the middle or drop back and play a hybrid-Safety role that Grant plays.