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myles2424
04-27-2012, 05:05 PM
Watching NFL Network, & speaking about the giants.....I can't quote, but basically said he's heard from execs today that NYG may be looking to package Osi to move up & grab a OT......

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:06 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

pino
04-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Makes sense. Kiwi's extension, without a peep about Osi's, tells me Osi is on the block.

RoanokeFan
04-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Watching NFL Network, & speaking about the giants.....I can't quote, but basically said he's heard from execs today that NYG may be looking to package Osi to move up & grab a OT......

We need an OT

pino
04-27-2012, 05:08 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

myles2424
04-27-2012, 05:08 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.
If we used Osi just to move up, I'd be furious.....
I don't even want a 2nd rounder, 1 more year from a pro bowler + possible 3rd compensatory pick in 2013 is worth more IMO...

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:08 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issues

giantsfan420
04-27-2012, 05:09 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

lmfao, cant u wait until we know who it is, if we even trade, before you let everyone know what a bad move it is

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:09 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.
If we used Osi just to move up, I'd be furious.....
I don't even want a 2nd rounder, 1 more year from a pro bowler + possible 3rd compensatory pick in 2013 is worth more IMO...

yea i hate it

a SEPARATE 2nd round pick for osi is better, not a trade up!

i have a bad feeling the gmen r gonna cave

myles2424
04-27-2012, 05:09 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?
Maybe Bobby Massie, theyve been talking him up in the top 10 of the 2nd & saying he's a early starter on the right side...

slipknottin
04-27-2012, 05:10 PM
I swear I heard the exact same thing from Laconfora last draft!

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:11 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?
Maybe Bobby Massie, theyve been talking him up in the top 10 of the 2nd & saying he's a early starter on the right side...

theyll have to go ahead of the jets to take him. they desperately want to get rid of hunter

maybe buffalo too

giantsfan420
04-27-2012, 05:11 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?
Maybe Bobby Massie, theyve been talking him up in the top 10 of the 2nd & saying he's a early starter on the right side...

massie could be there when we pick.

i'd assume IF we do trade, it'd be for a young DE who could fulfill the role Osi gave us, a pure pass rush specialist off the edge

vinny curry maybe?

John Martin fell as did adams and glenn, if T is what JR wants, we may not even have to trade

repeatchamps
04-27-2012, 05:12 PM
Watching NFL Network, & speaking about the giants.....I can't quote, but basically said he's heard from execs today that NYG may be looking to package Osi to move up & grab a OT......

We need an OT
</P>


Don't like it. Make Osi play it out. I love Tuck and JPP but the reality is based on what I've seen neither has Osi's game changing strip sack ability. They are both better all around players than Osi but do not do what Osi can do. Game changers are few and far between in this league. We lost Tolly too. Suddenly the depth becomes quite thin behind Tuck and JPP even if you move Kiwi back to DE.</P>

blueomaha
04-27-2012, 05:13 PM
Makes sense. Kiwi's extension, without a peep about Osi's, tells me Osi is on the block.my thoughts exactly, Pino...

keyofgmen
04-27-2012, 05:13 PM
I actually started thinking this earlier today..if we are going to trade him (I don't really want to)..then do it now get a top OL, and now that Konz is still available, maybe this is the time to go.

myles2424
04-27-2012, 05:16 PM
I swear I heard the exact same thing from Laconfora last draft!
Me2.....yet this the first time it's looked like a possibility w/ kiwi extension & Osi being in his last year...

Redeyejedi
04-27-2012, 05:17 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issuesIs Osi really that stupid. How would coming to camp out of shape and having a bad season help him get a large new contract

TheEnigma
04-27-2012, 05:18 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issuesIs Osi really that stupid. How would coming to camp out of shape and having a bad season help him get a large new contractHe's talking Glenn

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:19 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issuesIs Osi really that stupid. How would coming to camp out of shape and having a bad season help him get a large new contract

?

slipknottin
04-27-2012, 05:19 PM
mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issues

Ive said the same about Glenn, scared me as a prospect, couldnt bend at all, feel like he will have significant back problems in a year or two.

Redeyejedi
04-27-2012, 05:21 PM
I actually started thinking this earlier today..if we are going to trade him (I don't really want to)..then do it now get a top OL, and now that Konz is still available, maybe this is the time to go.Konz has medical red flags that out weigh his talent. Wouldnt be surprised if he was removed from some teams boards

miked1958
04-27-2012, 05:21 PM
At least get a comparable DE or other impact defensive player. If u move up and upshaw is still there why not take him

Redeyejedi
04-27-2012, 05:21 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Glenn?

mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issuesIs Osi really that stupid. How would coming to camp out of shape and having a bad season help him get a large new contract

?LOL I thought u were talking about Osi sorry

Kruunch
04-27-2012, 05:22 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Most likely Cordy Glenn who is rated very high by the Giants.

Amini Silatolu is probably on their radar as well.

Both are OG/OT prospects.

CGYgiant
04-27-2012, 05:22 PM
At least get a comparable DE or other impact defensive player. If u move up and upshaw is still there why not take him

because he doesn't fit our defense at all..

miked1958
04-27-2012, 05:22 PM
There is plenty of solid OLineman in the draft to waste a pick moving up for one. There will be plenty to choose for when our turn rolls around

keyofgmen
04-27-2012, 05:23 PM
I actually started thinking this earlier today..if we are going to trade him (I don't really want to)..then do it now get a top OL, and now that Konz is still available, maybe this is the time to go.Konz has medical red flags that out weigh his talent. Wouldnt be surprised if he was removed from some teams boards

I hadn't heard that was a big problem, but maybe....

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:24 PM
mike garafolo says the giants didnt like his weight/motivation issues

Ive said the same about Glenn, scared me as a prospect, couldnt bend at all, feel like he will have significant back problems in a year or two.

not that great on film anyway. some here were really high on him like bluesanta and sportzfan but i never understood the love. he has a lot of inconsistent plays, now im glad they passed on him

Redeyejedi
04-27-2012, 05:24 PM
At least get a comparable DE or other impact defensive player. If u move up and upshaw is still there why not take himUpshaw isnt really a good fit for the Giants. He is kind of a tweener.
Branch is more of an Osi replacement. He has length, Great burst, and can beat tackles off the edge.

Kruunch
04-27-2012, 05:24 PM
There is plenty of solid OLineman in the draft to waste a pick moving up for one. There will be plenty to choose for when our turn rolls around

Name the OG/OT prospects that will probably be around after pick #63 that aren't multi-year projects.

myles2424
04-27-2012, 05:24 PM
Not to jump the gun.....but I believe Kiwis extension saves us cap $$$, if in fact Osi were traded that's even more $$$$....

I wonder if we'd spend some $$$$ as guys get released

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:26 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.

Most likely Cordy Glenn who is rated very high by the Giants.

Amini Silatolu is probably on their radar as well.

Both are OG/OT prospects.

according to garofolos sources they had some concerns with glenn even though he was rated above wilson

i think silatolu can make it to the bottom of the 2nd

giantsfan420
04-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Not to jump the gun.....but I believe Kiwis extension saves us cap $$$, if in fact Osi were traded that's even more $$$$....

I wonder if we'd spend some $$$$ as guys get released

it did, it saved us 3 mil this season and some cash next season. i'd rather just extend osi with the money we saved. having 3 all pro caliber DE's is important for our d like 3 excellent wr's is to our offense...

sharick88
04-27-2012, 05:32 PM
I swear I heard the exact same thing from Laconfora last draft!

You did. That dorkasaurus rex doesn't know ****

slipknottin
04-27-2012, 05:34 PM
according to garofolos sources they had some concerns with glenn even though he was rated above wilson

i think silatolu can make it to the bottom of the 2nd

Also have to figure that only two OTs went in the first round, there are typically four or five. and only two guards. The top guard fell all the way to 24. Giants have to think that top OL will be avaliable at the end of the 2nd.

nevada11
04-27-2012, 05:34 PM
I swear I heard the exact same thing from Laconfora last draft!

You did. That dorkasaurus rex doesn't know ****

he needs to get surgery to fix those eyes

sharick88
04-27-2012, 05:37 PM
I swear I heard the exact same thing from Laconfora last draft!

You did. That dorkasaurus rex doesn't know ****

he needs to get surgery to fix those eyes

And immediate brain surgery. Dude called the nfc east the worst division in football at one time last season.

XxBigWhitxX
04-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Imagine if we package a 3rd and osi for a high 2nd and grab Glenn and then waited for our original 2nd and grabbed Silotulo.

O line

Beatty-Silotulo-Baas-Snee-Glenn

run game beast

(homer simpson drool)

radar-ray
04-27-2012, 06:19 PM
Not to jump the gun.....but I believe Kiwis extension saves us cap $$$, if in fact Osi were traded that's even more $$$$.... I wonder if we'd spend some $$$$ as guys get released it did, it saved us 3 mil this season and some cash next season. i'd rather just extend osi with the money we saved. having 3 all pro caliber DE's is important for our d like 3 excellent wr's is to our offense...This. Everyone is so eager to weaken a dominent positon, for some unknown, ala Shockey/Sintim.

hungrrrry
04-27-2012, 06:33 PM
I would like to see us move up to grab Courtney Upshaw or Stephan Hill...There is other talent to be had though

Drez
04-27-2012, 06:36 PM
for an ot? who? mike adams Oh no. lmfao, cant u wait until we know who it is, if we even trade, before you let everyone know what a bad move it is</P>


So, you're telling people to not overreact now? Pot meet kettle. I keed. I keed. [:P]</P>


If we deal Osi and get another mid to late pick, then I wouldn't be too upset, especially considering that we extended Kiwi. </P>


If we deal just to move up, meh, I think it'd be better to have Osi than just a second. This is saying that the Osi situation is tenable enough where he'd actually play here this season without a new deal.</P>

jomo
04-27-2012, 06:42 PM
Watching NFL Network, &amp; speaking about the giants.....I can't quote, but basically said he's heard from execs today that NYG may be looking to package Osi to move up &amp; grab a OT......

We need an OT
We may need 2. Beatty doesn't move me. I am not a fan ofoffensive linemenwho are not gnarly and rely on finesse. Can Diehl make the move to the right side and add a few productive years to his career?

radar-ray
04-27-2012, 06:43 PM
for an ot? who? mike adams Oh no. lmfao, cant u wait until we know who it is, if we even trade, before you let everyone know what a bad move it is</P>


So, you're telling people to not overreact now? Pot meet kettle. I keed. I keed. [:P]</P>


If we deal Osi and get another mid to late pick, then I wouldn't be too upset, especially considering that we extended Kiwi. </P>


If we deal just to move up, meh, I think it'd be better to have Osi than just a second. This is saying that the Osi situation is tenable enough where he'd actually play here this season without a new deal.</P>Right. Osi's under contract, so it's more beneficial in terms of our performance this year to have him play it out, whether he gets extended or not. Other than Eli &amp; Nicks/Cruz, DEis theonly league dominant position we have

Drez
04-27-2012, 06:46 PM
for an ot? who? mike adams Oh no. lmfao, cant u wait until we know who it is, if we even trade, before you let everyone know what a bad move it is</P>


So, you're telling people to not overreact now? Pot meet kettle. I keed. I keed. [:P]</P>


If we deal Osi and get another mid to late pick, then I wouldn't be too upset, especially considering that we extended Kiwi. </P>


If we deal just to move up, meh, I think it'd be better to have Osi than just a second. This is saying that the Osi situation is tenable enough where he'd actually play here this season without a new deal.</P>


Right. Osi's under contract, so it's more beneficial in terms of our performance this year to have him play it out, whether he gets extended or not. Other than Eli &amp; Nicks/Cruz, DEis theonly league dominant position we have</P>


Exactly, but if he's going to be a ***** and either not play or half *** it all season, then I say we take what we canget and if that just so happens to only be a two, so be it.</P>

TheAngryTuna
04-27-2012, 06:53 PM
That's how I feel exactly. Get what we can for him. If someone will take him off our hands and he is leaving next year anyway, why not get someone who can be a Giant the next 10 years?

CA Jints Fan
04-27-2012, 06:54 PM
Osi is not going anywhere.....if this is the "buzz" about any trade, not gonna happen

TheAngryTuna
04-27-2012, 06:55 PM
The Rams have three picks in the beginning of the first round, maybe something gets worked out with them?

ShakeNBake
04-27-2012, 07:04 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.
If we used Osi just to move up, I'd be furious.....
I don't even want a 2nd rounder, 1 more year from a pro bowler + possible 3rd compensatory pick in 2013 is worth more IMO...

I agree there is no arguing Osi's elite pass rushing ability but our hands are pretty much tied at this point. The threat of a holdout is real, I'm not saying its going to happen but judging by Osi's actions it's possible so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

plaxattack17
04-27-2012, 07:51 PM
for an ot?

who? mike adams

Oh no.
If we used Osi just to move up, I'd be furious.....
I don't even want a 2nd rounder, 1 more year from a pro bowler + possible 3rd compensatory pick in 2013 is worth more IMO...
completely agree. We should not be trading him.,

radar-ray
04-27-2012, 09:46 PM
for an ot? who? mike adams Oh no. If we used Osi just to move up, I'd be furious..... I don't even want a 2nd rounder, 1 more year from a pro bowler + possible 3rd compensatory pick in 2013 is worth more IMO...
completely agree. We should not be trading him.,
This. Osi's going nowhere, if we want the best chance to repeat. Every other team, especially the Uglies, are loading up with D and pass rushers trying to emulate us, to get after the QB.