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elifan10
04-28-2012, 03:56 AM
Who's the third to start the year. I think it has to be between Hixon, Barden, ang Jernigan because Coughlin never likes to start rookies. I think Hixon gets it though

George_Vreeland_Hill
04-28-2012, 04:00 AM
I think Hixon is gone unless he is 100% and all the way back.
Two bad injuries.
I don't see it.
RB will be the 3rd WR.

giantsfan420
04-28-2012, 04:03 AM
i dunno bout that...i originally thouoght hixon bc of experience, but Randle is NFL ready according to Ross. wouldnt surprise me at all if he starts the season as the 3

RagTime Blue
04-28-2012, 04:12 AM
I give the inside track to Jernigan. . .even though he's largely unproven, I just get a hunch he's going to get every opportunity and benefit of the doubt.

TheEnigma
04-28-2012, 04:13 AM
I don't think Jernigan will earn a #3 spot since he's purely a slot playmaker but he will be featured on 4 WR sets.

I think the #3 spot comes down to Hixon, Barden, and Randle. The biggest factor here will be how fast can Randle learn this complex offense because his physical attributes are superior to the other two.

Rat_bastich
04-28-2012, 04:22 AM
I think this is Barden's make or break year. He has become the new Sinorice Moss for us...though he has seen more field time.

cken
04-28-2012, 04:23 AM
I think it's gonna b between Barden, Jernigan, and Randle. Hixon will probably become a kick/punt return specialist, as it will keep him on the field less due to his recent injuries. As for the other three, I think Randle will be the third and Jernigan will be the fourth in 4 Wide sets as a previous poster has mentioned. Barden will be used for depth.

nycsportzfan
04-28-2012, 04:25 AM
I think it's gonna b between Barden, Jernigan, and Randle. Hixon will probably become a kick/punt return specialist, as it will keep him on the field less due to his recent injuries. As for the other three, I think Randle will be the third and Jernigan will be the fourth in 4 Wide sets as a previous poster has mentioned. Barden will be used for depth. I think Jerrnigan is gonna be a beast.. I think he wins the job and never looks back.. We certainly got a ton of depth at WR, with alot of potential, even though Bardens may be just about running out(i'm looking wrong on that one..lol). Jerrnigans crazy athletic and extremly dangerous with teh ball in his hands, and hes versatile enough where we can do diffrent things with him, as far as where we line em up.. I just think the yr under his belt is gonna do wonders..

cken
04-28-2012, 04:27 AM
I think it's gonna b between Barden, Jernigan, and Randle. Hixon will probably become a kick/punt return specialist, as it will keep him on the field less due to his recent injuries. As for the other three, I think Randle will be the third and Jernigan will be the fourth in 4 Wide sets as a previous poster has mentioned. Barden will be used for depth. I think Jerrnigan is gonna be a beast.. I think he wins the job and never looks back.. We certainly got a ton of depth at WR, with alot of potential, even though Bardens may be just about running out(i'm looking wrong on that one..lol).* Jerrnigans crazy athletic and extremly dangerous with teh ball in his hands, and hes versatile enough where we can do diffrent things with him, as far as where we line em up.. I just think the yr under his belt is gonna do wonders..

I guess in your case Jernigan is the three and Randle becomes the four. I dig it, let's goo!!

Toadofsteel
04-28-2012, 04:44 AM
I was ready to see Victor move to the outside and put Jernigan or Hixon in the slot. But with our latest acquisition at wideout we can now put cruz back into the slot. We'll still have Jernigan on tap though, in case cruz actually does get on the madden cover one year...

giantsfan420
04-28-2012, 05:04 AM
I was ready to see Victor move to the outside and put Jernigan or Hixon in the slot. But with our latest acquisition at wideout we can now put cruz back into the slot. We'll still have Jernigan on tap though, in case cruz actually does get on the madden cover one year...

in 2 wr formations Cruz and Nicks

in 3 wr formations Randle and Nicks on the outside, Cruz in the slot

in 4 wr sets Randle and Nicks outside, Cruz JJ in the slots

And i suspect there will be certain sets designed for certain players. I think whoever the 3 and 4 are, they will get similar amount of snaps...

JJ could be very special in the slot...

with Bennett at TE, we will have a 1v1 matchup with one of our guys...aint nobody stopping this offense, NOBODY

nycsportzfan
04-28-2012, 05:25 AM
I think it's gonna b between Barden, Jernigan, and Randle. Hixon will probably become a kick/punt return specialist, as it will keep him on the field less due to his recent injuries. As for the other three, I think Randle will be the third and Jernigan will be the fourth in 4 Wide sets as a previous poster has mentioned. Barden will be used for depth. I think Jerrnigan is gonna be a beast.. I think he wins the job and never looks back.. We certainly got a ton of depth at WR, with alot of potential, even though Bardens may be just about running out(i'm looking wrong on that one..lol). Jerrnigans crazy athletic and extremly dangerous with teh ball in his hands, and hes versatile enough where we can do diffrent things with him, as far as where we line em up.. I just think the yr under his belt is gonna do wonders.. I guess in your case Jernigan is the three and Randle becomes the four. I dig it, let's goo!! Ya, i think Jerrnigan could really be a wes welker type talent as a pro..He gets a pass coming outta small school and being behind 3studs in Nicks, Mario, and Cruz.. This kid can really exploit the short, underneath part of the field, and gain plenty of YAC for us.. Hes very slippery and elusive when on the move, and very hard to center up and hit.. He can really frustrate a defense..

NYG4lifeNYK
04-28-2012, 05:41 AM
It's an "open competition" but let's not kid ourselves it's Rueben's job to lose....and let's just say he has that job stashed away in a very secure location.


R2 will be the #3 no question about it.

nycsportzfan
04-28-2012, 05:49 AM
It's an "open competition" but let's not kid ourselves it's Rueben's job to lose....and let's just say he has that job stashed away in a very secure location.


R2 will be the #3 no question about it.
Why is it ruebens to lose again? Its straight up in the air.. If Jerell Jerrnigan produces, hes gonna get the job.. We picked Jerrell not to far past where we picked Randle this yr.. I think its gonna be outta those 2, but i think Jerrell's yr under his belt is the diffrence...

Diamondring
04-28-2012, 06:09 AM
I'm going with the rookie wr. You gots to play heem.

redbeardxxv
04-28-2012, 06:32 AM
I think Randal is MM part 2- he fills the need @ WR and is NFL ready. Randal wins this battle, and takes the field n MM's spot. We move on. Our offense is gonna be tough to beat.

Firenugget
04-28-2012, 07:18 AM
Fact: Not a single person here or on the Giants staff knows for sure. Camp will decide everything.

titwio
04-28-2012, 09:07 AM
I think it will be Jernigan. Randle will have to earn his stripes first and I don't even think he'll be an option as the the third yet going into camp. He could very well earn it but I see Jernigan, Barden and Hixon being the primary guys competing for the spot because they're more familiar with the system.

I see more of Randle competing for the 4th option earlier and a contributor on specials...like most rookies are.

fletch842
04-28-2012, 09:14 AM
I really hope that Jernigan and Randle make the decision very tough on the coaching staff. Only good will come of that.

nhpgiantsfan
04-28-2012, 09:17 AM
It is rookie running backs that TC rarely uses until they can learn to pass block. See Darrel Scott.

He has no problem using rookie WRs if the can pick up our scheme and all the read option routes. See Steve Smith 2007.

Randle was brought in to replace Mario, if he can be a quick study he's gonna get the job.

Shockeystays08
04-28-2012, 09:29 AM
I think it's gonna b between Barden, Jernigan, and Randle. Hixon will probably become a kick/punt return specialist, as it will keep him on the field less due to his recent injuries. As for the other three, I think Randle will be the third and Jernigan will be the fourth in 4 Wide sets as a previous poster has mentioned. Barden will be used for depth. I think Jerrnigan is gonna be a beast.. I think he wins the job and never looks back.. We certainly got a ton of depth at WR, with alot of potential, even though Bardens may be just about running out(i'm looking wrong on that one..lol).* Jerrnigans crazy athletic and extremly dangerous with teh ball in his hands, and hes versatile enough where we can do diffrent things with him, as far as where we line em up.. I just think the yr under his belt is gonna do wonders..

You won't regret that statement! I do understand folks that have there doubts about Jernigan. Small School,pretty unknown,and to be honest a pathetic attempt at returning punts in pre season last year. But you described him perfectly. He is fast, quick, athletic, fearless, great hands, and shifty after the catch. He was just as good vs. Arkansas, Florida State, South Carolina, as he was vs. the Sun Belt schools. Let the doubters doubt for know. It will be like going through the discovery of Cruz all over again. Randle ( who we all know I'm not a big fan of , but I may be wrong ( I love Reese) will be groomed to spell Hicks if he opts for Free Agency or gets an injury. I think Barden is through and Hixon will be depth.

titwio
04-28-2012, 09:34 AM
Randle was brought in to replace Mario, if he can be a quick study he's gonna get the job.

How can you know this for sure? I don't remember anyone from the Giants camp saying this.

Reese did say he feels Jernigan could fill the void left by Mario very well though. Randle was a first round talent that slipped all the way to 63. The Giants had a need at depth from the WR position and the pick made sense since Hixon, Barden and Jernigan are all question marks.

Shockeystays08
04-28-2012, 10:05 AM
I think it will be Jernigan. Randle will have to earn his stripes first and I don't even think he'll be an option as the the third yet going into camp. He could very well earn it but I see Jernigan, Barden and Hixon being the primary guys competing for the spot because they're more familiar with the system.

I see more of Randle competing for the 4th option earlier and a contributor on specials...like most rookies are.

I think you have it pretty well in focus!

NYDestroyer
04-28-2012, 10:42 AM
Couglin usually makes Rookies earn their spot so the senior citizens players don't cry lol.

OX1
04-28-2012, 11:21 AM
Fact: Not a single person here or on the Giants staff knows for sure. Camp will decide everything.


So we should shut down the message board until after camp (hell, after the season for that matter) and talk about nothing.

Spizi
04-28-2012, 12:01 PM
Reuben Randle will get the job. Bye bye Barden thanks for nothing. Jernigan will have to prove himself because he cam from a small school and is a small player. Randle comes from the 2nd best team in the SEC and is pro ready.

nhpgiantsfan
04-28-2012, 12:25 PM
Randle was brought in to replace Mario, if he can be a quick study he's gonna get the job.

How can you know this for sure? I don't remember anyone from the Giants camp saying this.

Reese did say he feels Jernigan could fill the void left by Mario very well though. Randle was a first round talent that slipped all the way to 63. The Giants had a need at depth from the WR
position and the pick made sense since Hixon, Barden and
Jernigan are all question marks.

Of course he said JJ would fit in well. At the time he just lost MM without making him an offer. He had to act like we had a replacement. But you answered your own question. RR is first round talent. He may not start the season as the three. But if he doesn't, whoever does is just keeping the spot warm for him.

slipknottin
04-28-2012, 12:29 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field

Spizi
04-28-2012, 12:46 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field

what he said ^

ryan12
04-28-2012, 02:29 PM
Who's the third to start the year. I think it has to be between Hixon, Barden, ang Jernigan because Coughlin never likes to start rookies. I think Hixon gets it though

Should be a good camp battle

RoanokeFan
04-28-2012, 03:04 PM
Who's the third to start the year. I think it has to be between Hixon, Barden, ang Jernigan because Coughlin never likes to start rookies. I think Hixon gets it though

There will be a strong competition. If Hixon is healthy, and they signed him so he must be at least close to 100%, he has as much chance as anyone else currently on the roster. We'll know more after camp closes. Randle is said to be NFL ready so that's another possibility.

elifan10
04-28-2012, 03:13 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field
Nicks was a first round pick so first of all he should be playing. Smith didn't get in until the end of the year because he was a rookie. You act like it won't be tough for him to come in and learn the offense, especially with Eli, he checks off and a lot of routes are option routes.

giantsfan420
04-28-2012, 03:17 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field
Nicks was a first round pick so first of all he should be playing. Smith didn't get in until the end of the year because he was a rookie. You act like it won't be tough for him to come in and learn the offense, especially with Eli, he checks off and a lot of routes are option routes.

ross and reese said he's nfl ready and will be a quick fit to the offense and contribute early.

he was a former qb, so i dont think learning the scheme will be an issue...

smith was injured, when he got healthy he saw the field immediately

nevada11
04-28-2012, 03:30 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field
Nicks was a first round pick so first of all he should be playing. Smith didn't get in until the end of the year because he was a rookie. You act like it won't be tough for him to come in and learn the offense, especially with Eli, he checks off and a lot of routes are option routes.

ross and reese said he's nfl ready and will be a quick fit to the offense and contribute early.

he was a former qb, so i dont think learning the scheme will be an issue...

smith was injured, when he got healthy he saw the field immediately

um.. no

barden didnt see the field immediately. manningham did not

gmen46
04-28-2012, 03:39 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field
Nicks was a first round pick so first of all he should be playing. Smith didn't get in until the end of the year because he was a rookie. You act like it won't be tough for him to come in and learn the offense, especially with Eli, he checks off and a lot of routes are option routes.

ross and reese said he's nfl ready and will be a quick fit to the offense and contribute early.

he was a former qb, so i dont think learning the scheme will be an issue...

smith was injured, when he got healthy he saw the field immediately

um.. no

barden didnt see the field immediately. manningham did not

Both were 3rd rd picks, and neither had earned the right to "see" the field immediately.

That they were rookies had zero to do with it.

RoanokeFan
04-28-2012, 03:51 PM
I have all the faith in the world in our scouting staff. Still, the draft is a crap shoot. Everyone we've drafted is going to have to earn a starting job whether it's this year, next year, or the year after that.

nYg24
04-28-2012, 03:52 PM
I dont get the love affair fans have with Hixon, he's average at best.

Im gonna go with Barden, Jernigan and the new kid mid season.

RoanokeFan
04-28-2012, 03:55 PM
I dont get the love affair fans have with Hixon, he's average at best.

I disagree. He holds the single game record for all purpose yards gained and record that stood for some 60+ years. He has had two ACL's back to back and they re-signed him. I'm not saying he's going to go to the top of the rotation but he's better than average and has just as much chance at being the # 3 as anyone else.

He runs good routes and has good hands.

Barden had better show he deserves to be on the team soon or he's going to be inactive a lot as he was last season.

nYg24
04-28-2012, 04:05 PM
I dont get the love affair fans have with Hixon, he's average at best.

I disagree.* He holds the single game record for all purpose yards gained and record that stood for some 60+ years.* He has had two ACL's back to back and they re-signed him.* I'm not saying he's going to go to the top of the rotation but he's better than average and has just as much chance at being the # 3 as anyone else.

He runs good routes and has good hands.

Barden had better show he deserves to be on the team soon or he's going to be inactive a lot as he was last season.


I remember him taking over for Plax? (memory is failing me) a few years back and being impressed the first couple games but then disappearing (before injury). I think there are guys on the roster with more upside and with 2 ACL tears I don't know if he will be able to be as quick as he once was. I do like him as a return guy though but again the injuries worry me.

nYg24
04-28-2012, 04:05 PM
I dont get the love affair fans have with Hixon, he's average at best.

I disagree.* He holds the single game record for all purpose yards gained and record that stood for some 60+ years.* He has had two ACL's back to back and they re-signed him.* I'm not saying he's going to go to the top of the rotation but he's better than average and has just as much chance at being the # 3 as anyone else.

He runs good routes and has good hands.

Barden had better show he deserves to be on the team soon or he's going to be inactive a lot as he was last season.


I remember him taking over for Plax? (memory is failing me) a few years back and being impressed the first couple games but then disappearing (before injury). I think there are guys on the roster with more upside and with 2 ACL tears I don't know if he will be able to be as quick as he once was. I do like him as a return guy though but again the injuries worry me.

JMFP2
04-28-2012, 04:16 PM
i dunno bout that...i originally thouoght hixon bc of experience, but Randle is NFL ready according to Ross. wouldnt surprise me at all if he starts the season as the 3</P>


Randle is going to be the 3rd, unless he sucks in camp. </P>


Hixon is injury-prone, and can't handle press coverage (something Randle is very capable of).</P>

giantsfan420
04-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Nicks played a ton as a rookie, so did Steve Smith.

Coughlin has no problem playing rookies provided they can do what they are asked to do.

Other players like Manningham didnt play much as a rookie because they did not grasp the mental aspect of what they needed to do on the field
Nicks was a first round pick so first of all he should be playing. Smith didn't get in until the end of the year because he was a rookie. You act like it won't be tough for him to come in and learn the offense, especially with Eli, he checks off and a lot of routes are option routes.

ross and reese said he's nfl ready and will be a quick fit to the offense and contribute early.

he was a former qb, so i dont think learning the scheme will be an issue...

smith was injured, when he got healthy he saw the field immediately

um.. no

barden didnt see the field immediately. manningham did not

Both were 3rd rd picks, and neither had earned the right to "see" the field immediately.

That they were rookies had zero to do with it.

and i still dont understand what nevada is saying no to? ross and reese both said he's nfl ready, and will be a quick fit to the offense.

smith was injured early in his rookie season, he got healthy towards the end and played. MM and Barden are irrelevant to the point im making, but if u want to just create things i didnt say so u could go "um no" be my guest

its getting old nevada