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krygny
04-29-2012, 10:21 AM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

RoanokeFan
04-29-2012, 06:47 PM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.



That may well be Martellus Bennett this season

JJC7301
04-30-2012, 12:50 AM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.


I don't see the problem -- Boss was an effective TE, but had concussion issues. Beckum stinks, but Ballard was having a tremendous (not just OK) season before getting injured later on in the year.

The last time we had a "big-time" TE was Shockey and we won 2 SB's without him. Don't buy into this TE-craze currently going on in the NFL. I like the duality of the position, but we've been doing just fine with superior WRs and non-elite TEs.

JMFP2
04-30-2012, 01:36 AM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

I don't see the problem -- Boss was an effective TE, but had concussion issues. Beckum stinks, but Ballard was having a tremendous (not just OK) season before getting injured later on in the year. The last time we had a "big-time" TE was Shockey and we won 2 SB's without him. Don't buy into this TE-craze currently going on in the NFL. I like the duality of the position, but we've been doing just fine with superior WRs and non-elite TEs.</P>


If this kid pans out (again, if), he could become a serious matchup problem for defenses.....sounds like he's already good as a blocker; if he can peel off and catch the ball, with his size and speed, he could add a nice dimension.</P>

Giantz4Life
04-30-2012, 02:09 AM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.


I don't see the problem -- Boss was an effective TE, but had concussion issues. Beckum stinks, but Ballard was having a tremendous (not just OK) season before getting injured later on in the year.

The last time we had a "big-time" TE was Shockey and we won 2 SB's without him. Don't buy into this TE-craze currently going on in the NFL. I like the duality of the position, but we've been doing just fine with superior WRs and non-elite TEs.

Well put. Sure I'd like to have a Gronk or a Jimmy Graham, but we don't NEED them to win per se as evidence of our recent Super Bowl!

Giants10Joe
04-30-2012, 02:17 AM
I thought Gronk was the JPP of tight ends.

Antwuan
04-30-2012, 04:16 AM
Im not doubting JR but I will believe it when I see it.

RagTime Blue
04-30-2012, 04:25 AM
I think Robinson gets a lot of playing time this year. Much more than one would think. Especially if he already can block well.

TuckYou
04-30-2012, 10:17 AM
Bennett is going to be our #1 TE this season and do it damn well. Love the pickup. Robinson sounds like he needs at least ayear to get into the feel of the game. He sounds raw, but sounds like he can come in on certain packages. If all goes well, 2013 is Robinsons season he shines.

MikeIsaGiant
04-30-2012, 11:44 AM
I think Bennett will be 100% the #1 starter the whole season.

This kid might need a year.

That being said, it seems like we went from no TEs to many TEs in a matter of no time.

So what happens when Ballard gets back??

Bennett, Ballard, Pascoe, Robinson, and beckum but who cares.

nycsportzfan
04-30-2012, 11:51 AM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

The diffrence with JPP and Robinson, is JPP actually produced in 1yr of bigtime football.. Adrien Robinson didn't produce in 5yrs of bigtime college football.. Sure, JPP only had 6.5 sacks, but he also had 16.5 TFL, and 2FF, as well as a INT, and 3PBU... Thats pretty productive, first yr of major college football..

nycsportzfan
04-30-2012, 11:52 AM
I think Bennett will be 100% the #1 starter the whole season.

This kid might need a year.

That being said, it seems like we went from no TEs to many TEs in a matter of no time.

So what happens when Ballard gets back??

Bennett, Ballard, Pascoe, Robinson, and beckum but who cares.


I think you'll see enough of Pascoe this yr.. Hes really gritty and technique wise, hes very solid.. I'd be surprised if Pascoe dosen't have a say in the TE game...

TuckYou
04-30-2012, 11:56 AM
I think Bennett will be 100% the #1 starter the whole season.

This kid might need a year.

That being said, it seems like we went from no TEs to many TEs in a matter of no time.

So what happens when Ballard gets back??

Bennett, Ballard, Pascoe, Robinson, and beckum but who cares.


I think you'll see enough of Pascoe this yr.. Hes really gritty and technique wise, hes very solid.. I'd be surprised if Pascoe dosen't have a say in the TE game...</P>


Not sure Ballard returns. That injury he suffered was very severe. Not only that he tore it, but he blew his knee up after trying to run on it. I dont see him playing in 2012. Beckum may be done. Pascoe could be a TE/FB so he might stay. Bennett-Robinson-Pascoe next year. </P>

nycsportzfan
04-30-2012, 12:47 PM
I think Bennett will be 100% the #1 starter the whole season.

This kid might need a year.

That being said, it seems like we went from no TEs to many TEs in a matter of no time.

So what happens when Ballard gets back??

Bennett, Ballard, Pascoe, Robinson, and beckum but who cares.


I think you'll see enough of Pascoe this yr.. Hes really gritty and technique wise, hes very solid.. I'd be surprised if Pascoe dosen't have a say in the TE game...</P>


Not sure Ballard returns. That injury he suffered was very severe. Not only that he tore it, but he blew his knee up after trying to run on it. I dont see him playing in 2012. Beckum may be done. Pascoe could be a TE/FB so he might stay. Bennett-Robinson-Pascoe next year. </P> I suppose Robinson could end up playing for us next yr, but i just don't see him going from 5unproductive yrs at Cincy , to being a productive player in the big east.. Hes not Elite blocker yet, but hes got the frame for it, so it might take em some time to even become a ELITE blocker which would get em on the field more often, if hes not catching balls.. I would be surprised if hes in the fold to much this yr, another words...

CGYgiant
04-30-2012, 12:50 PM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

The diffrence with JPP and Robinson, is JPP actually produced in 1yr of bigtime football.. Adrien Robinson didn't produce in 5yrs of bigtime college football.. Sure, JPP only had 6.5 sacks, but he also had 16.5 TFL, and 2FF, as well as a INT, and 3PBU... Thats pretty productive, first yr of major college football..

Thats why JPP was a top 15 pick in the draft. Robinson doesn't have the production, but as an athletic freak they're similar.

a 4.57 at almost 270 pounds is borderline ridiculous.

nycsportzfan
04-30-2012, 01:12 PM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

The diffrence with JPP and Robinson, is JPP actually produced in 1yr of bigtime football.. Adrien Robinson didn't produce in 5yrs of bigtime college football.. Sure, JPP only had 6.5 sacks, but he also had 16.5 TFL, and 2FF, as well as a INT, and 3PBU... Thats pretty productive, first yr of major college football..

Thats why JPP was a top 15 pick in the draft. Robinson doesn't have the production, but as an athletic freak they're similar.

a 4.57 at almost 270 pounds is borderline ridiculous.
Reminds me of guys like Bruce Campbell OT maryland, and plenty more guys who got picked based on freakish athletic ability without pads on, that dosen't show up on game day.. Its a crap shoot, even more so when u take guys like that.. I have a hard time believing Cincy's coaching staff is so bad they coulden't figure out a way to get this guy involved more in 5seasons... </P>


But hey, maybe i'm dead wrong, and he ends up being good.. I'm a bit skeptical is all...</P>

CGYgiant
04-30-2012, 01:18 PM
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/giants-say-adrien-robinson-is-the-pierre-paul-of-tight-ends/

@ about 1:12:
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Final-Draft-Analysis-GM-Jerry-Reese/e40d2969-aec5-4eea-9f51-cd147cb3ca2f

Two years ago, Reese predicted Boss would have a breakout year. How'd that work out? Beckum? A bust that's now completely busted. Ballard was okay while he lasted and stayed under the radar.

The Giants are aching for a big-time TE in the worst way. I hope we finally have him.

The diffrence with JPP and Robinson, is JPP actually produced in 1yr of bigtime football.. Adrien Robinson didn't produce in 5yrs of bigtime college football.. Sure, JPP only had 6.5 sacks, but he also had 16.5 TFL, and 2FF, as well as a INT, and 3PBU... Thats pretty productive, first yr of major college football..

Thats why JPP was a top 15 pick in the draft. Robinson doesn't have the production, but as an athletic freak they're similar.

a 4.57 at almost 270 pounds is borderline ridiculous.
Reminds me of guys like Bruce Campbell OT maryland, and plenty more guys who got picked based on freakish athletic ability without pads on, that dosen't show up on game day.. Its a crap shoot, even more so when u take guys like that.. I have a hard time believing Cincy's coaching staff is so bad they coulden't figure out a way to get this guy involved more in 5seasons... </p>


But hey, maybe i'm dead wrong, and he ends up being good.. I'm a bit skeptical is all...</p>

It appears as though Reese, Ross, and Pope saw something special in the kid. I hope it works as as his physical talent is rare.

I don't blame you for being a skeptic -- I think we all are, its a risky pick but with a 4th round value you could do much worse.

sg92
04-30-2012, 01:20 PM
I'm sure the quote related to his raw athleticism, combined with lack of experience -- 260 lbs, 4.5 40, and 39 inch vertical leap.

I love this draft strategy when you've got a coaching staff that can help people realize their potential. Most teams were afraid of JPP being too green, and he basically had one developmental year before being all-pro caliber.

Obviously, we'd be incredibly lucky if Robinson follows the same path, but with a solid starter ahead of him, I'm ok with the move. I'm all for the FO trying to shoot the moon when we have a starter ahead of him, and therefore aren't counting on big production from him this year.

Redeyejedi
04-30-2012, 01:42 PM
The good thing about this is outside of Beckum, Mike Pope has molded every TE that walked though the door. Pope has been given the 2 most physically gifted TE's he has had here. Curious to see what he gets out of them