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RoanokeFan
05-01-2012, 03:21 PM
REESE WON'T TAKE OSI'S RIPS PERSONAL (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/05/reese-wont-take-osis-rips-personal)

"It’s not personal, Jerry Reese insisted. It’s only business.

No matter
how ugly his feud with angry Osi Umenyiora gets.

That was the reaction
by the Giants GM to essentially being called a liar by Umeyiora for the second
offseason in a row. In an interview on ESPN Radio in New York on Tuesday, Reese
dismissed the defensive end’s sharp words as “offseason chatter”.

That’s
exactly what he called it last summer, too.

“I don’t carry grudges,”
Reese insisted. “That’s the offseason. That’s part of the job. In the offseason
there’s always some controversies about contracts. It’s never personal. I don’t
think it’s personal with respect to players. It’s definitely not personal with
respect to me. It’s just part of the business.”

It’s been a dirty
business between Reese and Umenyiora, though, as the defensive end continues his
years-long battle for a lucrative contract extension. After several years of
threatening to holdout or even retire, Umenyiora began making his fight personal
in 2011 when he swore in a court affidavit that Reese reneged on a promise to
give him a new contract or to trade him.

He turned his sights on Reese
again on Sunday, one day after the <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/04/reese-all-options-are-open-with-osi">GM
insisted that Umenyiora had twice rejected contract extension offers</a> from
the Giants. In an email to the Daily News, Umenyiora questioned Reese’s grasp of
the facts, said the offers were insignificant, and said it was “hilarious” that
Reese was <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/04/osi-blasts-jerry-says-hes-no-greedy-pig">making
him “look like a greedy pig for turning it down.”</a>

Umenyiora also
hinted at more battles to come. In fact, one source close to the angry end said
he is contemplating skipping the Giants’ mandatory, full-team minicamp in
mid-June and he may eventually demand a trade from the Giants.

Reese, as
he did on Saturday, said “all of our options are open” with Umenyiora, but he
reiterated he still hopes to find some way to make their disintegrating marriage
work.

“The New York Giants, we’re a better football team with Osi
Umenyiora on our team,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our
goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant.
That’s what we’d like to do first.

“But all of our options are open like
I said before.”

Umenyiora said the Giants have offered him a contract
extension, but he insisted they only offered about $5.5 million in guaranteed
money – or about one-third of what he’s looking for, along with a multi-year
deal that will pay him an average of more than $10 million per season. He is due
to make $3.975 million this season in the last year of a seven-year, $41 million
contract extension he signed in 2005.

The next move appears to be
Umenyiora’s, and he promised in his email that it could be
“interesting.”

Reese, for his part, promised “We’ll get through this.”
That may depend on what Umenyiora does – or says – next.

“It’s not a big
problem for me to have guys say some things,” Reese said. “I think sometimes
people say things that obviously they really don’t mean. But everybody is trying
to make as much money as they can for themselves and their families. Everybody
understands that. It’s not personal.”

Tony Bruno
05-01-2012, 03:26 PM
Good way to play it down and take the higher roll... At the end of the day Osi is a great player and would help any team... Reese is doing a great job by sidestepping the controversial DE and making it not personal... Either way Reese is going to get a body in there and Osi should realize that ans play ball... If I were Osi I would be looking to have an injury free standout last seaon and make a big payday by his on feild play... Im a fan of Osi but at the end of the day when we got JPP Osi is more expendable to me... Still a great weapon for our team Osi is though...

radar-ray
05-01-2012, 03:29 PM
Good way to play it down and take the higher roll... At the end of the day Osi is a great player and would help any team... Reese is doing a great job by sidestepping the controversial DE and making it not personal... Either way Reese is going to get a body in there and Osi should realize that ans play ball... If I were Osi I would be looking to have an injury free standout last seaon and make a big payday by his on feild play... Im a fan of Osi but at the end of the day when we got JPP Osi is more expendable to me... Still a great weapon for our team Osi is though...Very well stated.

JMFP2
05-01-2012, 03:36 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


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It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</P>


Just saying.</P>

chizz
05-01-2012, 03:41 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


*</P>


It would be refreshing if some people on
this message board had the same opinion of
Osi.</P>

not gonna happen on this site


Just saying.</P>

ashleymarie
05-01-2012, 03:47 PM
REESE WON'T TAKE OSI'S RIPS PERSONAL (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/05/reese-wont-take-osis-rips-personal)

"It’s not personal, Jerry Reese insisted. It’s only business.

No matter how ugly his feud with angry Osi Umenyiora gets.

That was the reaction by the Giants GM to essentially being called a liar by Umeyiora for the second offseason in a row. In an interview on ESPN Radio in New York on Tuesday, Reese dismissed the defensive end’s sharp words as “offseason chatter”.

That’s exactly what he called it last summer, too.

“I don’t carry grudges,” Reese insisted. “That’s the offseason. That’s part of the job. In the offseason there’s always some controversies about contracts. It’s never personal. I don’t think it’s personal with respect to players. It’s definitely not personal with respect to me. It’s just part of the business.”

It’s been a dirty business between Reese and Umenyiora, though, as the defensive end continues his years-long battle for a lucrative contract extension. After several years of threatening to holdout or even retire, Umenyiora began making his fight personal in 2011 when he swore in a court affidavit that Reese reneged on a promise to give him a new contract or to trade him.

He turned his sights on Reese again on Sunday, one day after the GM insisted that Umenyiora had twice rejected contract extension offers (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/04/reese-all-options-are-open-with-osi) from the Giants. In an email to the Daily News, Umenyiora questioned Reese’s grasp of the facts, said the offers were insignificant, and said it was “hilarious” that Reese was making him “look like a greedy pig for turning it down.” (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/04/osi-blasts-jerry-says-hes-no-greedy-pig)

Umenyiora also hinted at more battles to come. In fact, one source close to the angry end said he is contemplating skipping the Giants’ mandatory, full-team minicamp in mid-June and he may eventually demand a trade from the Giants.

Reese, as he did on Saturday, said “all of our options are open” with Umenyiora, but he reiterated he still hopes to find some way to make their disintegrating marriage work.

“The New York Giants, we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first.

“But all of our options are open like I said before.”

Umenyiora said the Giants have offered him a contract extension, but he insisted they only offered about $5.5 million in guaranteed money – or about one-third of what he’s looking for, along with a multi-year deal that will pay him an average of more than $10 million per season. He is due to make $3.975 million this season in the last year of a seven-year, $41 million contract extension he signed in 2005.

The next move appears to be Umenyiora’s, and he promised in his email that it could be “interesting.”

Reese, for his part, promised “We’ll get through this.” That may depend on what Umenyiora does – or says – next.

“It’s not a big problem for me to have guys say some things,” Reese said. “I think sometimes people say things that obviously they really don’t mean. But everybody is trying to make as much money as they can for themselves and their families. Everybody understands that. It’s not personal.”
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I would love to see the Giants repeat again this year and win another Lombardi. You all feel the same way, I know. I see Osi as an important part of that.We won't know if he deserves more money until next year. But we need Osi this season. jmo</P>

Harooni
05-01-2012, 03:50 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

we do all feel the same for the most part, we just want him to stop whining to the media and honor the 41million $$$ contract he signed.

buddy33
05-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Of course they where better with him than without him. Doesn't mean they can't win without him.

Serg812
05-01-2012, 04:06 PM
Greedy pigs don't care about rings.

NFCEastBeast
05-01-2012, 04:07 PM
I guess i just don't understand why we don't simply just make osi play out this final year and then let him walk. why all this nonsense? why even ackowledge osi antics? he singed the contract with a real pen in real time. he has no choice but to honor it. seriously osi are you really going to sit out this year if we dont pay or trade you? no way. he'd get crap for contract offers the following year after sitting out and showing no heart on top of that. 1 more good year and then take your 3 year deal somewhere else to finish your career. peace.

Morehead State
05-01-2012, 04:08 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


</P>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</P>


Just saying.</P>


</P>


“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first<FONT size=4>..</FONT><FONT size=4>.......As long as he stops whining like a schoolgirl, stops stomping him feet and holding his breath until we notice, <U>AND plays hard</U>."</FONT></P>


..........Morehead State</P>


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nygpolishpunk
05-01-2012, 04:13 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

we do all feel the same for the most part, we just want him to stop whining to the media and honor the 41million $$$ contract he signed.
Or at the very least work contract issues out behind closed doors like most other Giants greats...

JMFP2
05-01-2012, 04:25 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


</P>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</P>


Just saying.</P>


</P>


“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first<FONT size=4>..</FONT><FONT size=4>.......As long as he stops whining like a schoolgirl, stops stomping him feet and holding his breath until we notice, <U>AND plays hard</U>."</FONT></P>


..........Morehead State</P>


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You don't need to worry about that last part.</P>


Osi works as hard at his job as anyone else on the team.</P>


How soon we forget....</P>


http://www.nflgridirongab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/url-72.jpg</P>


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B&RWarrior
05-01-2012, 04:33 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


*</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

we do all feel the same for the* most part, we just want him to stop whining to the media and honor the 41million $$$ contract he signed.
Or at the very least work contract issues out behind closed doors like most other Giants greats...


Osi's contract works out to $5.85 million a year. Is he under paid or over paid by 2012 standards for a DE? Does his value equal his pay?


To say yes is to lie to your self.

We signed Kiw b/c it was the cheaper higher value option interms of our future, but Osi is the higher impact player as things stand right now.

Morehead State
05-01-2012, 05:16 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


</P>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</P>


Just saying.</P>




we do all feel the same for the most part, we just want him to stop whining to the media and honor the 41million $$$ contract he signed.
Or at the very least work contract issues out behind closed doors like most other Giants greats...
Osi's contract works out to $5.85 million a year. Is he under paid or over paid by 2012 standards for a DE? Does his value equal his pay? To say yes is to lie to your self. We signed Kiw b/c it was the cheaper higher value option interms of our future, but Osi is the higher impact player as things stand right now.</P>


Please don't make us go through the dynamics of a "front loaded" contract again.</P>


Just go look it up and come back here and apologize.</P>

Kruunch
05-01-2012, 05:21 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


*</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

we do all feel the same for the* most part, we just want him to stop whining to the media and honor the 41million $$$ contract he signed.
Or at the very least work contract issues out behind closed doors like most other Giants greats...


Osi's contract works out to $5.85 million a year. Is he under paid or over paid by 2012 standards for a DE? Does his value equal his pay?


To say yes is to lie to your self.

We signed Kiw b/c it was the cheaper higher value option interms of our future, but Osi is the higher impact player as things stand right now.

Does that mean we get a refund when we overpaid him in 2006, 2008 and 2009?

RoanokeFan
05-01-2012, 05:35 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

I haven't seen anyone say Osi is not a good player. Reese has always said he wants him here. Osi is the one setting up all of the roadblocks.

speedbreaker
05-01-2012, 06:15 PM
i don't understand why osi gets so much heat here for wanting his contract redone! revis wanted to be paid like the highest paid corner in the league and dude had like 3 years left on his contract, what did he do? he held out during training camp causing a distraction and the jets eventually ripped up his old contract and gave him a new one making him the highest paid corner in the league. and talk is he's gonna prob hold out again for a newer deal! lets cut osi some slack here dude is approaching his final year on his contract and wants to be paid, this is prob his only shot at making good money! i think i heard on the boomer and carlton show that osi is on a short list of players that was givin a long term deal and made to honor it all the way through by the giants!

B&RWarrior
05-01-2012, 06:18 PM
Does that mean we get a refund when we overpaid him in 2006, 2008 and 2009?</P>


C'mon Kruunch, $5.85 mill a year is abargain for a DE of Osi's ability.The contract should leave nothing for FO or fans to complain about in terms of the production they received for the money.</P>


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B&RWarrior
05-01-2012, 06:24 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <U>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</U>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</P>


</P>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</P>


Just saying.</P>




I haven't seen anyone say Osi is not a good player. Reese has always said he wants him here. Osi is the one setting up all of the roadblocks.
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Reese is the consumate professional, just as smooth as butter. He will always come off better in these kinds of negotiations. This is what he does for a living. JR and FO's actions speak louder than his words. We've resigned Kiwi and offered Osi an extension with supposedly half the garaunteed money. Kiwi has accomplished a 3rd of what Osi has at DE and has a lower market value IMO. </P>


Defintiely a roadblock if you loooking at things from Osi's perspective.</P>

TheEnigma
05-01-2012, 06:30 PM
i don't understand why osi gets so much heat here for wanting his contract redone! revis wanted to be paid like the highest paid corner in the league and dude had like 3 years left on his contract, what did he do? he held out during training camp causing a distraction and the jets eventually ripped up his old contract and gave him a new one making him the highest paid corner in the league. and talk is he's gonna prob hold out again for a newer deal! lets cut osi some slack here dude is approaching his final year on his contract and wants to be paid, this is prob his only shot at making good money! i think i heard on the boomer and carlton show that osi is on a short list of players that was givin a long term deal and made to honor it all the way through by the giants!


Revis has a much larger impact on the Jets defense. Actually, he IS the Jets defense. Since the Rex Ryan defense relies on cornerbacks being able to hold their own in an island, Revis knows that the Jets really need him. Plus Revis isn't in the twilight stages of his career yet so for now, he has all of the leverage against the Jets and everyone knows it.

Osi, while a great pass rusher, isn't a complete DE for us and with star players like Nicks, Cruz, and JPP coming up soon on contracts, we can't afford to give Osi fair value. It's just the situation and we can wish Osi the best of luck after this upcoming season.

Firenugget
05-01-2012, 06:32 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>

We do. You just read what you want to into it. There's no question we're better with him. The problem is most are tired of his public whining and acting like he somehow got shafted after taking a very large front loaded contract and now not wanting to live up to the leaner final years of it.

RoanokeFan
05-01-2012, 06:33 PM
“.....The New York Giants, <u>we’re a better football team with Osi Umenyiora on our team</u>,” Reese said. “We respect him as a football player. So our goal is to have Osi play football for the New York Giants and retire as a Giant. That’s what we’d like to do first....."</p>


</p>


It would be refreshing if some people on this message board had the same opinion of Osi.</p>


Just saying.</p>




I haven't seen anyone say Osi is not a good player. Reese has always said he wants him here. Osi is the one setting up all of the roadblocks.
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Reese is the consumate professional, just as smooth as butter. He will always come off better in these kinds of negotiations. This is what he does for a living. JR and FO's actions speak louder than his words. We've resigned Kiwi and offered Osi an extension with supposedly half the garaunteed money. Kiwi has accomplished a 3rd of what Osi has at DE and has a lower market value IMO. </p>


Defintiely a roadblock if you loooking at things from Osi's perspective.</p>

We have no idea what Osi was offered. You will have to forgive me for not just taking Osi at his word.