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Spedracer
05-02-2012, 11:26 AM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?

Itlan
05-02-2012, 11:44 AM
Nicks has proven himself longer, and is the #1. He makes the offense go, and is simply a better player than Cruz, despite what the stats may say. He will be paid handsomely, I doubt Reese lets his first round gem walk.

Cruz still has a lot to prove, and Reese knows that. He's forcing Cruz to play out his contract and have another great year to determine what kind of contract Cruz deserves. Remember, we can tender Cruz next year with a 1st rounder, and match any offers made.

Reese is handling this perfectly right now, imo. Nicks is going to demand a huge contract, and Cruz will demand only slightly less than Nicks if he has anywhere near a repeat of last year.

nygsb42champs
05-02-2012, 11:45 AM
Cruz will be taken care of after the season. JR wants to make sure it was not a one and done year for Cruz.

XxBigWhitxX
05-02-2012, 11:47 AM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.

Spedracer
05-02-2012, 11:52 AM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.

My intention with this thread is to gather what everyone thinks, not to respond to every opinion, BUT...

Osi should be given the middle finger. The guy is a greedy pig and everyone knows it. But he is also an exceptional player, and he is paid like an exceptional player so he needs to ride his 40 million out. He signed it.

But giving Cruz money is more of a slap in the face to Nicks than it is to Osi.

ashleymarie
05-02-2012, 11:56 AM
Just playing a fly in the ointment here, but IF both Cruz and Nicks were given new contracts at the same time couldn't they conceivably hold out together at the end of their contracts and hurt the Giants? I feel sure Reese would not do that but would stagger their ending dates? Anyone know the answer to this? tia

TuckYou
05-02-2012, 12:00 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/) Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation. Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz? Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does. I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009. 2012 Base Salaries: Hakeem Nicks - 750,000* Victor Cruz - 525,000 (*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses. I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other. What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media. My intention with this thread is to gather what everyone thinks, not to respond to every opinion, BUT... <U>Osi should be given the middle finger. The guy is a greedy pig</U> and everyone knows it. But he is also an exceptional player, and he is paid like an exceptional player so he needs to ride his 40 million out. He signed it. But giving Cruz money is more of a slap in the face to Nicks than it is to Osi.</P>


Cool story bro. </P>


Did you say the same about Strahan? </P>

RagTime Blue
05-02-2012, 12:02 PM
So much can happen between now and the time their contracts are up.

It's not always wise to pay players more money when you don't have to.

Spedracer
05-02-2012, 12:05 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/) Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation. Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz? Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does. I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009. 2012 Base Salaries: Hakeem Nicks - 750,000* Victor Cruz - 525,000 (*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses. I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other. What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media. My intention with this thread is to gather what everyone thinks, not to respond to every opinion, BUT... <U>Osi should be given the middle finger. The guy is a greedy pig</U> and everyone knows it. But he is also an exceptional player, and he is paid like an exceptional player so he needs to ride his 40 million out. He signed it. But giving Cruz money is more of a slap in the face to Nicks than it is to Osi.</P>


Cool story bro. </P>


Did you say the same about Strahan? </P>

You just compared Strahan to Umenyiora...cool story, Bro!

Toadofsteel
05-02-2012, 12:38 PM
Just playing a fly in the ointment here, but IF both Cruz and Nicks were given new contracts at the same time couldn't they conceivably hold out together at the end of their contracts and hurt the Giants? I feel sure Reese would not do that but would stagger their ending dates? Anyone know the answer to this? tia

I don't think holdouts over contracts are even an option in either of these guys' minds. Nicks has a work ethic that is one of the best in the NFL. Sure he'll want his big pay day, but he won't hold out over it. Cruz is largely the same way; also, as a UDFA, he knows how fortunate he is to have an NFL contract at all. Both of these guys are team-oriented people, unlike Osi who is self-oriented.

To be honest, I don't think Osi is worth his talent anymore. The disruptions in the locker room more than offset his playing talent on the field. He's already making a bad impression on JPP, who said he would handle his contract situation the same way Osi did. By not giving in, Reese is showing JPP that whining like a little girl won't get you what you want on this team. But the sooner this bad influence is moved away, the better. Tuck is a much better role model for young players anyway...

B&RWarrior
05-02-2012, 01:24 PM
Cruz will be taken care of after the season. JR wants to make sure it was not a one and done year for Cruz.

+1

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 01:29 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?<font color="#0000FF">By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger </font>and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.

Why would that be? You have to follow your process with whichever players need to be given consideration. They just extended Kiwanuka and that had nothing to do with Osi.

Redeyejedi
05-02-2012, 01:37 PM
U cant give a guy that played 1 season a new contract .That would be a terrible precedent to set

GiantPride27
05-02-2012, 02:09 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/) Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation. Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz? Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does. I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009. 2012 Base Salaries: Hakeem Nicks - 750,000* Victor Cruz - 525,000 (*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses. I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other. What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media. My intention with this thread is to gather what everyone thinks, not to respond to every opinion, BUT... <U>Osi should be given the middle finger. The guy is a greedy pig</U> and everyone knows it. But he is also an exceptional player, and he is paid like an exceptional player so he needs to ride his 40 million out. He signed it. But giving Cruz money is more of a slap in the face to Nicks than it is to Osi.</P>


Cool story bro. </P>


Did you say the same about Strahan? </P>


Eassy there buddy!!!!

Osi is one of the greatest Giants players of all time (like 4th best DE)

Strahan is one of the Greatest NFL Players of all time

GiantPride27
05-02-2012, 02:11 PM
U cant give a guy that played 1 season a new contract .That would be a terrible precedent to set

then we would be the Jacksonville Jaguars


i.e. Laurent Robinson

JJC7301
05-02-2012, 02:57 PM
Nicks has proven himself longer, and is the #1. He makes the offense go, and is simply a better player than Cruz, despite what the stats may say. He will be paid handsomely, I doubt Reese lets his first round gem walk.

Cruz still has a lot to prove, and Reese knows that. He's forcing Cruz to play out his contract and have another great year to determine what kind of contract Cruz deserves. Remember, we can tender Cruz next year with a 1st rounder, and match any offers made.

Reese is handling this perfectly right now, imo. Nicks is going to demand a huge contract, and Cruz will demand only slightly less than Nicks if he has anywhere near a repeat of last year.
+1. Cruz is the sentimental fav, but Nicks is the # 1 (not by far). I want them both signed, but JR will decide when the time is right and I trust him 100%.

But, he may be praising Cruz now, but I have a strong feeling that Cruz won't continue this way if he isn't shown a new contract or bonuses by next year.

XxBigWhitxX
05-02-2012, 03:29 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?<font color="#0000FF">By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger </font>and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.

Why would that be?* You have to follow your process with whichever players need to be given consideration.* They just extended Kiwanuka and that had nothing to do with Osi.*
I know Kiwi's contract had nothing to do with Osi but Osi used it aagainst JR making it look like JR is unwilling to offe him fair money. If We extend Cruz before we make a decision on Osi He'll just turn it against JR say "Oh you give a guy with one good year a big good extension but me, an all-pro DE, gets casted aside and then thing begin to spiral worse.

VBGiantsFan
05-02-2012, 03:32 PM
Both Cruz and Nicks make each other better every time they are on the field together.

What we have a young version of Fitzgerald and Boldin. It really doesn't matter who the #1 or #2 is, they are both good for each other on the field.

Sadly, I doubt we bring both back next year, unless the Giants slap the franchise tag on Cruz.

Nicks, JPP, and Phillips will be demanding money sooner than later, and we just can't afford all of them.

We will probably keep Nicks and JPP (no way we lose him) and lose Phillips and/or Cruz.

GiantPride27
05-02-2012, 03:56 PM
Both Cruz and Nicks make each other better every time they are on the field together.

What we have a young version of Fitzgerald and Boldin. It really doesn't matter who the #1 or #2 is, they are both good for each other on the field.

Sadly, I doubt we bring both back next year, unless the Giants slap the franchise tag on Cruz.

Nicks, JPP, and Phillips will be demanding money sooner than later, and we just can't afford all of them.

We will probably keep Nicks and JPP (no way we lose him) and lose Phillips and/or Cruz.

we have have to many good draft picks lol. unfortunatly i think that leaves Phillips as the odd man out. JPP, Nicks, cruz etc are necessities over phillips.

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 05:08 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?<font color="#0000FF">By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger </font>and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.

Why would that be? You have to follow your process with whichever players need to be given consideration. They just extended Kiwanuka and that had nothing to do with Osi.
I know Kiwi's contract had nothing to do with Osi but Osi used it aagainst JR making it look like JR is unwilling to offe him fair money. If We extend Cruz before we make a decision on Osi He'll just turn it against JR say "Oh you give a guy with one good year a big good extension but me, an all-pro DE, gets casted aside and then thing begin to spiral worse.

Osi can't be objective about anything to do with his contract situation. He wants what he wants and that's understandable. I don't know if what he wants is reasonable or not. I don't know what he's basing his worth on. I would really prefer the headline grabbing approach he has taken to get what he wants would just stop.

You could be right about Osi's perceptions but there's nothing that can be done about that. Reese still has to conduct business in terms of what's more important for the team short and, probably more importantly, long term. Every player brings something to the table and it's unfortunate for Osi that we also have Tuck and JPP on this team. That, perhaps more than anything else, doesn't provide him any leverage in the final year of his contract.

Bing Crosby
05-02-2012, 05:15 PM
Why would that be? You have to follow your process with whichever players need to be given consideration. They just extended Kiwanuka and that had nothing to do with Osi.

+1

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 05:17 PM
Just playing a fly in the ointment here, but IF both Cruz and Nicks were given new contracts at the same time couldn't they conceivably hold out together at the end of their contracts and hurt the Giants? I feel sure Reese would not do that but would stagger their ending dates? Anyone know the answer to this? tia

I think Nicks and Cruz have the potential to be the best WR tandem on the NFL. I hope they sign them both to long term deals, factoring in how much longer they believe Eli will be here. We could be an offensive force for years to come if they remain together for 5+ years.

Bing Crosby
05-02-2012, 05:46 PM
I think Nicks and Cruz have the potential to be the best WR tandem on the NFL. I hope they sign them both to long term deals, factoring in how much longer they believe Eli will be here. We could be an offensive force for years to come if they remain together for 5+ years.


From your lips to God's ears my friend.

G-Man67
05-02-2012, 06:03 PM
U cant give a guy that played 1 season a new contract .That would be a terrible precedent to set</P>


exactly</P>


yes we want him to repeat or exceed what he did</P>


but, who knows if he will, so many things can transpire</P>


Victor knows what he needs to do and hopefully he will be salsa-ing all over the NFL again</P>


but it is just not an immediate concern, we still have time to enjoy his talents before worrying about losing him</P>

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 07:41 PM
U cant give a guy that played 1 season a new contract .That would be a terrible precedent to set</p>


exactly</p>


yes we want him to repeat or exceed what he did</p>


but, who knows if he will, so many things can transpire</p>


Victor knows what he needs to do and hopefully he will be salsa-ing all over the NFL again</p>


but it is just not an immediate concern, we still have time to enjoy his talents before worrying about losing him</p>

You are right, Cruz is not an "immediate concern" both from an organizational perspective and, also, from his stated purpose to play football. But player contracts are not drawn up in a vacuum especially when CAP space is tight. Reese is making moves now, such as signing players for one year deals with an eye to needing funds to do contracts for Nicks, Cruz, JPP, Tuck and others.

Drez
05-02-2012, 07:51 PM
PFT posted an article today Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/02/jerry-reese-praises-victor-cruz-for-doing-it-the-right-way/)

Basically it amounts to Jerry Reese praising the way Victor Cruz is handling himself verses how Osi Umenyiora has handled his contract situation.

Why not reward Cruz for his actions? He is staying grounded and is willing to do right unto the Giants, so why wont Reese do right unto Cruz?

Now we can only speculate, because we don't know if there are contract talks currently going on. But I would think that in the best case scenario, Hakeem Nicks would receive a contract at the same time Victor Cruz does.

I just can't see them paying Cruz before Nicks. Nicks has been with the Giants longer, was a 1st round pick, and has been a top tier player for the Giants since 2009.

2012 Base Salaries:
Hakeem Nicks - 750,000*
Victor Cruz - 525,000

(*) - Keeping in mind that Hakeem got 6.5 million in guaranteed signing bonuses.

I conclude that this is a quandary to say the least. Both Nicks and Cruz are being paid less than their true value to the team. You can't reward one without rewarding the other.

What are your thoughts?By paying Cruz now you'd practically be giving Osi the middle finger and would make the situation worse. I do agree however that Cruz deserves a new contract but after the Osi situation is over and done with. Because right now any extension by the Giants would seem like a slap in the face to Osi and the front office does WANT to resign him but at a fair price angering him could permanently stall all negotiations and end in a Trade Demand and more talking and mudslinging to the media.
Why do we have to wait until after Osi to resign Cruz? Screw that noise. If Osi is that sensitive, then **** him. Not everything is about him. And if he does feel that way, all the more reason to show him the door.

The only reason we haven't extended Cruz is because the FO wants to make sure he wasn't a flash in the pan before committing big money to him. Also, iirc, if we extend Cruz (or any contract for that matter) after a certain date any additional money that he might get this year counts towards next year's cap instead of this one.

alau53
05-02-2012, 08:29 PM
U cant give a guy that played 1 season a new contract .That would be a terrible precedent to set

then we would be the Jacksonville Jaguars


i.e. Laurent Robinson

or tampa bay bucs who in '04 drafted michael clayton in 1st rd..he had great rookie yr 80 catches/ 1200 yards..then he never got more than 600 yards..what happened to him..he got a ring w/giants last season but his next job is in the media..he was good on channel 5' sports xtra

RichGiants81
05-04-2012, 02:25 AM
Doesn't anyone remember the clip in the super bowl DVD of Cruz during warmups before kickoff against new England saying " I used to think it was about me but it's all about this team" the guy is an exceptional person as well as athlete, he won't pull the unethical nonsense that osi has. The situation will get handled and he will be a giant for years to come, it's nicks thatmim worried about losing but hopefully Reece does the right thing. He made a big time mistake letting Mario go, dude is far from perfect. At the end or the day it's the players out there winning games not the front office suits that view them as commodities