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Pa1jintfan
05-02-2012, 01:46 PM
Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.

giantsfan420
05-02-2012, 01:51 PM
its all about matchups.

we have an excellent mix of different types of wr's that offer up diff. dynamics.

nicks and randle i'd say are all around type wr's.

cruz, JJ are guys who can kill out of the slot, and cruz will also kill out on the perimeter.

Bardens the wild card who is approaching critical mass. he has to show where he can fit in and do it fast....unlike most, i still believe he makes the roster and is activated most of the games. JR approached the whole ST aspect through the plethora of DB's he's added.

Oh and about Bennett, I am extremely excited to see him play, but I dunno how smart it'd be to line him up out wide or off the line, part of his skill set is the ability to block at a high level, to take him off the line just eleminates the possibility or the ability to show that he may block...

i still also think we will add a WR and TE after teams start making roster cuts

JJC7301
05-02-2012, 01:55 PM
Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.
I'm excited about our depth and expect either JJ or Barden to step up. And Hixon provides veteran experience there, too.

B&RWarrior
05-02-2012, 01:58 PM
Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB.

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 02:07 PM
Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.

Remember, Bennett is a lineman first in this organization. I'd also be careful crowning Randle before he takes a snap in the NFL or assuming Barden will do something he's not been able to do in three years.

TrueBlue@NYC
05-02-2012, 02:34 PM
Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year.

Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally.

Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season.

JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.

myles2424
05-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB. didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;

B&RWarrior
05-02-2012, 02:44 PM
Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB. didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;

Poppy****, Barden #3.

Mod_C
05-02-2012, 02:48 PM
Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB. didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;

Poppy****, Barden #3.

Based on what in his first three years in the NFL? Perhaps we should wait for the actual competition and pre-season. He hasn't been lighting the field up so far.

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">AVG</th><th title="Longest run" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; font-weight: 700; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-decoration: none; text-align: right !important; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">LNG</th><th title="Rushing touchdowns" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; font-weight: 700; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-decoration: none; text-align: right !important; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; ">TD</th><th title="Fumbles" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 2px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-left: 6px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: middle; background-image: url(http://a2.espncdn.com/prod/assets/module_subheader_gradient.gif) !important; background-attachment: scroll !important; background-origin: initial !important; background-clip: initial !important; background-color: rgb(232, 232, 232) !important; font-weight: 700; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); text-decoration: none; text-align: right !important; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-position: 0px 0px !important; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat !important; 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RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 02:52 PM
Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year.

Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally.

Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season.

JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.

One of the things I like about the organization is that they don't "expect" a lot out of their draftees in the year they are drafted, preferring to develop them over time.

Pa1jintfan
05-02-2012, 04:38 PM
I agree with all the replies. I too think that barden will be the wild card this year. He did have a good showing vs Dallas last year. He has the tools, just needs to stay healthy and study the playbook and defensive schemes. I do agree that bennett is a block first TE. And I think that is a nice upgrade over the last few years. Are options are great. Spread em out 5 wide, or double TE and punch them in the mouth. Are explosive passing game will back safeties off the line a bit. Teams will start changing there defensive philosophies soon and be forced to have a hybrid safety (grant type). The options are endless when you have THE BEST QB IN THE GAME. I honestly 100% believe Eli is the best in the biz right now. I trust everything he does now. Best trade ever in NFL history. Philip who???

DownWitJPP
05-02-2012, 04:52 PM
Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden.

1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not

2. Barden can't stay healthy

3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever

and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS.

how I think WR depth chart will look:
Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma

Giants10Joe
05-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Here's what I think the depth chart will look like:

1. Nicks
2. Cruz
3. Jernigan or Hixon (I'm leaning toward Hixon in week 1, but Jernigan claiming the 3 spot by about week 10)
4. Jernigan or Hixon
5. Randle (he'll probably surpass Hixon and maybe even Jernigan in 2013 though)
6. Barden (I would love to see Barden step up his game but at this point in his career I don't see it happening)

nycsportzfan
05-02-2012, 05:40 PM
Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden. 1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not 2. Barden can't stay healthy 3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS. how I think WR depth chart will look: Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma I'm going with a bit of a surprise depth chart(well, to some maybe)..</P>


1. Nicks</P>


2. Cruz</P>


3. Jerrnigan(yr in the NFL, after playing small school comp, has got to be huge for him, you'd think)</P>


4. Randle</P>


5. Hixon</P>


6. Talley- Watch out for this kid in camp, he just may pull a cruz, and be the 2nd UMASS wr to make out squad.. </P>


As big a barden fan as i was coming outta the draft, i think i'm finally ready to admit i was wrong on that one... I think he gets cut in camp...</P>

nycsportzfan
05-02-2012, 05:51 PM
In case anyone was wanting to see our latest UMASS WR.. I found this very nice long highlight video.. I have no friends at UMASS now, so i haven't been to a game in awhile.. Anyhow, still read about em in the paper a couple times, and all though i believe Cruz was the more taletned of the 2, this kids pretty good himself.. UMASS has done well to get really good offensive weapons in here over the past several seasons.. THis kid runs great routes, can get u YAC, and takes a hit and holds on, can work all parts of the field..etc Hes pretty solid.. I think he'll fight for a spot...</P>


</P>


Julian Talley Highlights - YouTube (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DqxlY-OmLFBo&amp;sa=U&amp;ei=6amhT-7vD7G36QGDkIGFCQ&amp;ved=0CB4QtwIwAA&amp;usg=AFQjCNEYJ4nKG 8FOyMXlktXpeuYFpTNFBg)
<FONT color=#767676><SPAN class=f>10 min - Mar 31, 2012
Uploaded by showtme155</SPAN>
</FONT><CITE><FONT color=#0e774a>www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxlY-OmLFBo</FONT></CITE></P>

miked1958
05-02-2012, 05:57 PM
Assuming we get out of training camp and through preseason injury free. It will be a scary offense to deal with. Could be much better then lasts years SB VERISON..... Scary

DownWitJPP
05-02-2012, 06:08 PM
agreed, this offense is gonna be scary good

and i agree with you that Jernigan is a really good player, but he is more a slot receiver, and on 3 WR sets Cruz has that job locked up.

That is the only reason why I have Hixon or Randle as the number 3

and Barden, I don't think he makes it out of camp this year

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Here's what I think the depth chart will look like:

1. Nicks
2. Cruz
3. Jernigan or Hixon (I'm leaning toward Hixon in week 1, but Jernigan claiming the 3 spot by about week 10)
4. Jernigan or Hixon
5. Randle (he'll probably surpass Hixon and maybe even Jernigan in 2013 though)
6. Barden (I would love to see Barden step up his game but at this point in his career I don't see it happening)


This could be prophetic [;)]

nycsportzfan
05-02-2012, 06:52 PM
agreed, this offense is gonna be scary good and i agree with you that Jernigan is a really good player, but he is more a slot receiver, and on 3 WR sets Cruz has that job locked up. That is the only reason why I have Hixon or Randle as the number 3 and Barden, I don't think he makes it out of camp this year I could easily see Cruz out wide on 3wr sets with Jerrnigan in the slot, and sometimes, Vica Versa.. Talent and versatility trumps all, and Cruz and jerrnigan are our 2most versatile WR's , in my opinion.. THey can pretty much line up anywhere at any time, and are very dangerous with the ball in there hands(speaking of jerrny as a college player of course).. As u said, and i also all ready did, i don't see Barden making the team.. I was dead wrong about him...

RoanokeFan
05-02-2012, 06:55 PM
agreed, this offense is gonna be scary good and i agree with you that Jernigan is a really good player, but he is more a slot receiver, and on 3 WR sets Cruz has that job locked up. That is the only reason why I have Hixon or Randle as the number 3 and Barden, I don't think he makes it out of camp this year I could easily see Cruz out wide on 3wr sets with Jerrnigan in the slot, and sometimes, Vica Versa.. Talent and versatility trumps all, and Cruz and jerrnigan are our 2most versatile WR's , in my opinion.. THey can pretty much line up anywhere at any time, and are very dangerous with the ball in there hands(speaking of jerrny as a college player of course).. As u said, and i also all ready did, i don't see Barden making the team.. I was dead wrong about him...

I was surprised the other day to read that Cruz wants to stay in the slot. Must be a comfort level thing.

Giants10Joe
05-02-2012, 07:04 PM
Here's what I think the depth chart will look like:

1. Nicks
2. Cruz
3. Jernigan or Hixon (I'm leaning toward Hixon in week 1, but Jernigan claiming the 3 spot by about week 10)
4. Jernigan or Hixon
5. Randle (he'll probably surpass Hixon and maybe even Jernigan in 2013 though)
6. Barden (I would love to see Barden step up his game but at this point in his career I don't see it happening)


This could be prophetic [;)]


I just kind of looked at the development path that Nicks, Smith, and Manningham had and assumed that Jernigan and Randle would develop at a similar pace to Smith and Manningham because all 4 guys were 2nd and 3rd round picks. After Burress shot himself, Hixon took over the starting job and Smith saw a lot of time. At the start of the 2009 season, Hixon was our #1 WR and Smith was #2. Smith (3rd year player) passed Hixon during training camp or very early in the season , Manningham (in his second year at the time) passed Hixon midway through the season, and then Nicks (a rookie) passed him near the end of the season. 2010 started with the depth chart being 1: Smith, 2: Manningham, 3: Nicks. Nicks, now a second year player, passed Manningham sometime during 2010 and Smith in 2011 (injuries didn't really help Smith obviously).

I figure that Jernigan as a third rounder should be at about the same place Manningham (both 3rd round picks) was at the start of 2009: ready to contribute as the 3rd or 4th guy, and solidly established as the 3rd guy by the end of the season. Randle will be where Smith (both 2nd round picks) was as a rookie: not ready yet, but ready to start contributing near the end of his rookie year and then competing for the three spot by the end of his second year. Of course, by this logic, Barden should have developed to the point where Cruz would have never gotten a chance, so we'll see what happens.

Giants10Joe
05-02-2012, 07:05 PM
I was surprised the other day to read that Cruz wants to stay in the slot. Must be a comfort level thing.


I think it's more that he excels there. Don't fix what ain't broke.

nycsportzfan
05-02-2012, 07:13 PM
agreed, this offense is gonna be scary good and i agree with you that Jernigan is a really good player, but he is more a slot receiver, and on 3 WR sets Cruz has that job locked up. That is the only reason why I have Hixon or Randle as the number 3 and Barden, I don't think he makes it out of camp this year I could easily see Cruz out wide on 3wr sets with Jerrnigan in the slot, and sometimes, Vica Versa.. Talent and versatility trumps all, and Cruz and jerrnigan are our 2most versatile WR's , in my opinion.. THey can pretty much line up anywhere at any time, and are very dangerous with the ball in there hands(speaking of jerrny as a college player of course).. As u said, and i also all ready did, i don't see Barden making the team.. I was dead wrong about him...

I was surprised the other day to read that Cruz wants to stay in the slot. Must be a comfort level thing.
Ya, i think he'll definetly play alot in the slot.. I think there gonna use em and any WR's that can, more then just one way though.. If Jerrnigan progresses like we hope he does, there gonna get em on the field, and sometimes thats gonna be in the slot, if not most of the time.. Cruz has proved he can play out wide all ready, and has made some game changing plays out there, so i think they'd continue to try and utlize that aspect of his game as well.. Remember that insane TD catch in between 2 defenders he made, where he batted the ball up? Those type of plays have to be tried, if a guy can make those kinda plays..

alau53
05-02-2012, 07:24 PM
barden is this teams sinorice moss..high draft pick who gmen traded up to get..they both have 5 yr rookie contracts and stay on the team until contract expires..then retire and invest wisely and dont work rest of their lives

shockeyg
05-02-2012, 07:35 PM
Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden.

1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not

2. Barden can't stay healthy

3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever

and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS.

how I think WR depth chart will look:
Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma I like the DePalma pick

Firenugget
05-02-2012, 08:09 PM
Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year.

Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally.

Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season.

JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.

This^^. Our offense is complicated as hell by all player accounts. Although I would think that they would have a few packages/situational plays for him to see exactly what they have in him.

miked1958
05-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden.

1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not

2. Barden can't stay healthy

3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever

and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS.

how I think WR depth chart will look:
Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma I like the DePalma pickThere was some talk of this kid Dan depalma being a secret weapon. That he will emerge from the shadows this yr. as a Wes Welker type WR

miked1958
05-02-2012, 08:16 PM
That would be nice

DownWitJPP
05-02-2012, 08:22 PM
Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden.

1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not

2. Barden can't stay healthy

3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever

and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS.

how I think WR depth chart will look:
Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma I like the DePalma pickThere was some talk of this kid Dan depalma being a secret weapon. That he will emerge from the shadows this yr. as a Wes Welker type WR

yup thats why I put him in there..the coaches and his fellow WR's are all supposedly really high on this kid. Plus hes a local so you have to pull for him to make it! LOL

GMENAGAIN
05-02-2012, 10:19 PM
Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year. Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally. Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season. JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.</P>


Smith made "little impact" his first year???</P>


3rd and 11 . . . . . . .enough said</P>

buddy33
05-02-2012, 10:26 PM
I know everyone is still riding the draft, but don forget about JJ. I think right now he would be the #3. I'm not sold on Hixon even making the team as of now. I like Hoxon a lot, but I have to see him play and stay healthy to believe. Two major injuries to the same knee in just about a year is nothing you just shake off. I do wish him well and hope he makes the team.

allentown PA
05-02-2012, 10:39 PM
I know everyone is still riding the draft, but don forget about JJ. I think right now he would be the #3. I'm not sold on Hixon even making the team as of now. I like Hoxon a lot, but I have to see him play and stay healthy to believe. Two major injuries to the same knee in just about a year is nothing you just shake off. I do wish him well and hope he makes the team.

have to agree...Randle has a different body type and skill set from JJ, we have a nice core of recievers who have diferent things they bring to the table...off topic a bit but I am also excited to see if scott has an impact on the running game...all the talk about wilson and with good reason but I dont think we should sleep on scott.

Toadofsteel
05-02-2012, 10:49 PM
I could see the giants eventually running a singleback 4 WR set for some plays... Nicks-JJ-Cruz-Randle across. You just CAN'T double cover all of those. If Wilson can learn pass protection, one of those 4 would get open real fast...

B&RWarrior
05-02-2012, 10:52 PM
Barden #3 you heard it here first.

T.Rice57
05-02-2012, 10:57 PM
Hixon is going to be our #3, and is going to put up very impressive numbers. Book it.

DownWitJPP
05-02-2012, 11:15 PM
Barden #3 you heard it here first.

Barden sucks and gets cut, you heard that here first

nygfan0816
05-02-2012, 11:35 PM
#3 is still unproven, so lets not get onto 4 yet.

we know cruz and nicks will be the 1-2 threat, but after that who knows.

barden hasnt proved anything in 3 seasons other then being the 2nd coming of sinorice moss.

hixon is coming off 2 alc tears in 2 seasons, so who knows how effective he can be

randle seems like a good replacement for mario, but TC doesnt like giving none 1st round rookies a lot of playing time and likes them to develope

jernigan is a big ?. he had no offseason to work with last yeaand was thrown to the wolves out of the gate. maybe with 1 yr under him he could be better.

depalma is also a ?. he supposedly a welker type which could be great for eli, but he needs to show he could play.

giantsfan420
05-02-2012, 11:48 PM
I could see the giants eventually running a singleback 4 WR set for some plays... Nicks-JJ-Cruz-Randle across. You just CAN'T double cover all of those. If Wilson can learn pass protection, one of those 4 would get open real fast...

i think we will see a lot more 4 wr and even empty backfield sets...

people forget that during eli's rookie year, huffnagel i believe ran a bunch of 4 wide with a te on the line and nobody in the backfield formations...

that was when eli was green and depended on him finding the mismatch and releasing the ball quickly. i venture we could see a lil bit more of that...we didnt see that the past few seasons bc outside our top 3 wr's, i dont think KG trusted anyone. now that we have the vacancy at the 3rd wr and have several viable options, we could see 4 wide sets with bennet on the line w/o anyone in the backfield