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RoanokeFan
05-06-2012, 02:41 PM
NEW YORK GIANTS WILL HEAD INTO 2012 SEASON WITH INCREDIBLE SECONDARY DEPTH (http://www.giants101.com/2012/05/06/new-york-giants-will-head-into-2012-season-with-incredible-secondary-depth/)

"The 2011 <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a>’ defensive backs were snake-bitten last year. They dropped like flies
from training camp onward. Oddly enough, the injury bug hung out with the team
well into the playoffs. This offseason, General Manager Jerry Reese has
addressed the possibility of this type of repeat (or not!) and stocked up on
depth heading into training camp.


Defensive Coordinator Perry Fewell knows his defensive strengths: the front
four and rotation of key players to keep opposing offenses off their game. QB
quick-drops/releases and increased use of the hurry-up at times puts more
pressure on the defensive backfield. Will this year show marked improvement or
more of the same blown coverages on big plays?</p>


Training camp battles with the defensive backs are a bit different than most
other positions within the Giants organization. Most of them bond together, even
when split into two groups: cornerbacks and safeties. The brotherhood that’s
built with these players is strong and clear to see. Part of this is due to
Safeties Coach David Merritt. He gets the most he can out of the secondary – and
he can be heard doing so throughout camp practices. He also loves versatile
players – guys that can play corner as well as safety, (as Fewell’s defense
plays much nickel and dime) but can also help in run support. Barring damage to
this unit again, the competition level at this position may be somewhat
friendly, but will put forth the best players to cover the back end.</p>


Taking a look at who is going up SUNY at Albany:</p>


S Antrel Rolle has grown into his position with blue and had it finally come
together once he bonded in a deep conversation with Fewell:</p>
<blockquote>


“…from that point on I never saw the game about me. I never saw the game
about anything having to deal with me. I saw the game about my teammates, I saw
the game most of all about Coach Coughlin, and I saw the game most of all about
<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Deon Grant" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/deon-grant/" rel="tag nofollow">Deon
Grant</a>…”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote>


“The defensive coordinator is more consistent with his calls and we are very
comfortable with what he’s calling. We go out to win the games very smoothly.
We’ve been very sharp in our technique, our adjustment. Even when things go as
planned, we are flying around, we are hustling to the ball, and when we go to
the ball great things happen…” he said while mid-playoff run.</p></blockquote>


S Kenny Phillips is ‘Trel’s partner and most of the time, the single high. He
“gets it” back there.</p>


S Tyler Sash will continue on Special Teams and now step in more that <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Deon Grant" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/deon-grant/" rel="tag nofollow">Deon
Grant</a> isn’t returning.</p>


FS <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chad Jones" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chad-jones/" rel="tag nofollow">Chad
Jones</a> – the inspiring story has been more of a reality as he entered Timex
in April. He’s sure to get some tear-jerking cheers at training camp and most
eyes will be on him for the first few days.</p>


CB Terrell Thomas re-signed before free agency started (four-year, 28
million). His health is priority, but all signs point to the positive. His
communication skills were missed in 2011.</p>


CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Corey Webster" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/corey-webster/" rel="tag nofollow">Corey
Webster</a> is a constant at corner. No competition here.</p>


CB Prince Amukamara hurt his foot in early August, but had early flashes of
brilliance over-shadowed by the times he got beat. Only way to move is up.</p>


Depth/ nickel/ ST players: DB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Bruce Johnson" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/bruce-johnson/" rel="tag nofollow">Bruce
Johnson</a> (re-signed and coming off a torn Achilles), CB Michael Coe, CB
Antwaun Molden (depth/camp body), DB Justin Tryon (was about to seriously gel
and breakout in Fewell’s defense until he fractured his wrist – and continued to
play), DB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chris Horton" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chris-horton/" rel="tag nofollow">Chris
Horton</a> (more of a ST guy that can flash), CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brian Witherspoon" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brian-witherspoon/" rel="tag nofollow">Brian
Witherspoon</a> (ST/return – depending on how knee is).</p>


Coughlin on 3rd Round Draft pick CB Jayron Hosley:</p>
<blockquote>


“…very competitive, feisty guy with 12 career interceptions. He’s also a punt
returner. He’s a physical tackler. He is a competitive guy who many times is
matched up on the opponent’s best receiver. Whether it’s the physical aspect of
the game, the coming up in run support, the competitiveness in the press
position, whether he’s playing from off and just playing the ball in the air.
This guy does have outstanding hands and has been able to convert that concept
into many interceptions… he also has the potential to be a punt returner. We
like him for our special teams aspect also. He’s played the gunner. He can play
various kickoff coverages…We feel like we can accomplish a lot with this kind of
an athlete. He’s not the biggest guy in the world… we do think he is a
competitive, feisty guy and he’s one of those people that has not backed down
from anybody. Played against some outstanding receivers in his career and did an
outstanding job…”</p></blockquote>


And finally: CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Bing" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-bing/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Bing</a>, S Stevie Brown, S JoJo Nicolas, FS <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Janzen Jackson" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/janzen-jackson/" rel="tag nofollow">Janzen
Jackson</a> as long shots/ practice squad possibilities.</p>


This should be a great area to keep a close eye on as many of the talented,
fallen soldiers that couldn’t contribute to a World Championship are back."</p>

BeatYale
05-06-2012, 03:05 PM
Nice read. Thanks for posting this.

How many DB's are typically on the 53 man roster?

Safety: Phillips, Rolle, ?, ?
CB: Webster, Amukamara, Thomas, Hosley, ?, ?

I think Tryon will end up making the roster. He was on the rise last season right before he got hurt. It was sad. I think Bruce Johnson might make it too, another sad story regarding his injury last year.

Lambeau12
05-06-2012, 04:17 PM
Would you guys consider signing Nick Collins? Too bad we let him go, he was a good player until his injury.

JJC7301
05-07-2012, 12:58 AM
I love the depth of our secondary and I'm especially interested in seeing what T2 (post-injury) and Prince bring to the table.

G-Man67
05-07-2012, 05:10 PM
you need a bunch of good ones ... you can easily have 6 DBs out there at once ... we did a lot of BIG dime last year with Grant ... but we may switch to more little dime without Grant around ... K-Phil, 'Trel, C-Web, TT, Prince and _____ fill in the blank ... Johnson, Tryon, Hosley or big with Sash</P>


plus CBs are needed on STs and we know Hosley can return punts if it's not Hixon or JJ</P>

paul007
05-09-2012, 07:15 PM
I say we have minimum 10 DBs

Safety: Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle, Tyler Sash, Chad Jones (If he can play otherwise injured list)

Corner: CWeb, TT, Prince, Hosley, Tryon, ?

(Pick 1 or 2 if Chad Jones is on injured list): Bruce Johnson , Michael Coe,
Brian Witherspoon, Chris Horton

MattMeyerBud
05-09-2012, 07:44 PM
NEW YORK GIANTS WILL HEAD INTO 2012 SEASON WITH INCREDIBLE SECONDARY DEPTH (http://www.giants101.com/2012/05/06/new-york-giants-will-head-into-2012-season-with-incredible-secondary-depth/)

"The 2011 <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a>’ defensive backs were snake-bitten last year. They dropped like flies
from training camp onward. Oddly enough, the injury bug hung out with the team
well into the playoffs. This offseason, General Manager Jerry Reese has
addressed the possibility of this type of repeat (or not!) and stocked up on
depth heading into training camp.


Defensive Coordinator Perry Fewell knows his defensive strengths: the front
four and rotation of key players to keep opposing offenses off their game. QB
quick-drops/releases and increased use of the hurry-up at times puts more
pressure on the defensive backfield. Will this year show marked improvement or
more of the same blown coverages on big plays?</p>


Training camp battles with the defensive backs are a bit different than most
other positions within the Giants organization. Most of them bond together, even
when split into two groups: cornerbacks and safeties. The brotherhood that’s
built with these players is strong and clear to see. Part of this is due to
Safeties Coach David Merritt. He gets the most he can out of the secondary – and
he can be heard doing so throughout camp practices. He also loves versatile
players – guys that can play corner as well as safety, (as Fewell’s defense
plays much nickel and dime) but can also help in run support. Barring damage to
this unit again, the competition level at this position may be somewhat
friendly, but will put forth the best players to cover the back end.</p>


Taking a look at who is going up SUNY at Albany:</p>


S Antrel Rolle has grown into his position with blue and had it finally come
together once he bonded in a deep conversation with Fewell:</p>
<blockquote>


“…from that point on I never saw the game about me. I never saw the game
about anything having to deal with me. I saw the game about my teammates, I saw
the game most of all about Coach Coughlin, and I saw the game most of all about
<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Deon Grant" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/deon-grant/" rel="tag nofollow">Deon
Grant</a>…”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote>


“The defensive coordinator is more consistent with his calls and we are very
comfortable with what he’s calling. We go out to win the games very smoothly.
We’ve been very sharp in our technique, our adjustment. Even when things go as
planned, we are flying around, we are hustling to the ball, and when we go to
the ball great things happen…” he said while mid-playoff run.</p></blockquote>


S Kenny Phillips is ‘Trel’s partner and most of the time, the single high. He
“gets it” back there.</p>


S Tyler Sash will continue on Special Teams and now step in more that <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Deon Grant" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/deon-grant/" rel="tag nofollow">Deon
Grant</a> isn’t returning.</p>


FS <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chad Jones" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chad-jones/" rel="tag nofollow">Chad
Jones</a> – the inspiring story has been more of a reality as he entered Timex
in April. He’s sure to get some tear-jerking cheers at training camp and most
eyes will be on him for the first few days.</p>


CB Terrell Thomas re-signed before free agency started (four-year, 28
million). His health is priority, but all signs point to the positive. His
communication skills were missed in 2011.</p>


CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Corey Webster" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/corey-webster/" rel="tag nofollow">Corey
Webster</a> is a constant at corner. No competition here.</p>


CB Prince Amukamara hurt his foot in early August, but had early flashes of
brilliance over-shadowed by the times he got beat. Only way to move is up.</p>


Depth/ nickel/ ST players: DB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Bruce Johnson" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/bruce-johnson/" rel="tag nofollow">Bruce
Johnson</a> (re-signed and coming off a torn Achilles), CB Michael Coe, CB
Antwaun Molden (depth/camp body), DB Justin Tryon (was about to seriously gel
and breakout in Fewell’s defense until he fractured his wrist – and continued to
play), DB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Chris Horton" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/chris-horton/" rel="tag nofollow">Chris
Horton</a> (more of a ST guy that can flash), CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brian Witherspoon" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brian-witherspoon/" rel="tag nofollow">Brian
Witherspoon</a> (ST/return – depending on how knee is).</p>


Coughlin on 3rd Round Draft pick CB Jayron Hosley:</p>
<blockquote>


“…very competitive, feisty guy with 12 career interceptions. He’s also a punt
returner. He’s a physical tackler. He is a competitive guy who many times is
matched up on the opponent’s best receiver. Whether it’s the physical aspect of
the game, the coming up in run support, the competitiveness in the press
position, whether he’s playing from off and just playing the ball in the air.
This guy does have outstanding hands and has been able to convert that concept
into many interceptions… he also has the potential to be a punt returner. We
like him for our special teams aspect also. He’s played the gunner. He can play
various kickoff coverages…We feel like we can accomplish a lot with this kind of
an athlete. He’s not the biggest guy in the world… we do think he is a
competitive, feisty guy and he’s one of those people that has not backed down
from anybody. Played against some outstanding receivers in his career and did an
outstanding job…”</p></blockquote>


And finally: CB <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Bing" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-bing/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Bing</a>, S Stevie Brown, S JoJo Nicolas, FS <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Janzen Jackson" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/janzen-jackson/" rel="tag nofollow">Janzen
Jackson</a> as long shots/ practice squad possibilities.</p>


This should be a great area to keep a close eye on as many of the talented,
fallen soldiers that couldn’t contribute to a World Championship are back."</p>

i actually think our saftey depth is extremely weak