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RoanokeFan
05-21-2012, 02:25 PM
KELLEN WINSLOW JR: SHOULD THE NEW YORK GIANTS BE INTERESTED? (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/5/21/3034222/kellen-winslow-junior-new-york-giants-tampa-bay-buccaneers-greg-schiano-nfl-rumors)

"Should the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants) be
interested in tight end <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2695/kellen-winslow">Kellen
Winslow</a> if and when the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers">Tampa Bay
Buccaneers</a> cut him loose? The talented Winslow, 28, is <a href="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kellen-Winslow-Jr-says-Bucs-will-look-to-trade-him.html">not
in the plans of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers</a> -- that much has become obvious.

<div class="entry-body">


Let's make one thing clear -- the Giants are not going to make a trade
for Winslow. The guy has a $3.3 million salary for 2012, is signed for three
more years and has bad knees. Despite the 75 catches he made in 2011 trading for
a guy like this is not something the Giants so. What they do is sign a more
under-the-radar tight end with something to prove -- like they did with <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34521/martellus-bennett">Martellus
Bennett</a>.</p>


Still, if and when Winslow inevitably hits the free-agent market -- where his
price will likely be much lower -- is he worth at least kicking the tires
on?</p>


Matt Bowen (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1857/matt-bowen) of the
National Football Post is <a href="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Would-you-make-a-play-for-Kellen-Winslow.html">intrigued
by Winslow as a free agent</a>, saying "a healthy, in-shape Winslow is still a
tough matchup for a safety that rolls down from the middle of the field in
coverage."</p>


The Giants have Bennett and they drafted <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/155060/adrien-robinson">Adrien
Robinson</a> in the fourth round. Even with them around, would the 6-foot-4,
264-pound Winslow be worth the gamble?"</p></div>

BeatYale
05-21-2012, 02:31 PM
I didn't like his behavior in the past, he was definitely too immature when he first joined the league.

I think he'd be worth it though, IMO he's a proven pass catching TE that will warrant attention from the defense. Our man Ballard is rehabbing his knee, and I'm not sold on Bennett.

I know his knee issues were mentioned in another topic, but he hasn't missed a game in 3 seasons.

2178
05-21-2012, 02:32 PM
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Shockeyitus
05-21-2012, 02:44 PM
No... we have enough "soldiers".

G-Man67
05-21-2012, 02:48 PM
well you always have to be a little intrigued</P>


Winslow is 28</P>


now, A. Gates is about to turn 32 and T. Gonzalez is 36 ... both were certainly productive in their late 20s, early 30s and obviously im not comparing the talent level</P>


he's not a great character guy, but he might come in thinking ... OK, this is my chance at a ring, let me do and say all the right things</P>


i think the bigger issue will be that some club will want to pay him a little more than we do</P>


then you have the roster issue ... we obviously want to give our rook a spot and time to develop ... Pascoe is our only returning TE ... Beckum would get cut unless we could get away with putting him on season ending IR ... Ballard could go on PUP, but then come midseason we may have a tough decision to make ... certainly we will have picked up more injuries, but if a TE doesn't get hurt, can you really afford 4 TEs on the roster?</P>

Morehead State
05-21-2012, 02:48 PM
No... we have enough "soldiers".</P>


He was treated unfairly for that comment. Football players have been making military references about themselves since they were wearing leather helmets.</P>

Gmen2005
05-21-2012, 02:49 PM
I'd try it out for a low contract

RoanokeFan
05-21-2012, 02:53 PM
I guess we then have to figure out who gets released if we make a deal with Winslow? I'm thinking Beckum. Pascoe is more versatile and blocks.

GMENAGAIN
05-21-2012, 02:56 PM
No... we have enough "soldiers".</P>


He was treated unfairly for that comment. Football players have been making military references about themselves since they were wearing leather helmets.</P>


</P>


Nah, that comment was an incredibly dumb one to make when we had actual soldiers overseas in harm's way. </P>


In his defense, though, he seems to have learned from that ans has toned down his act in the pros . . . . </P>

Morehead State
05-21-2012, 03:00 PM
No... we have enough "soldiers".</P>


He was treated unfairly for that comment. Football players have been making military references about themselves since they were wearing leather helmets.</P>


</P>


Nah, that comment was an incredibly dumb one to make when we had actual soldiers overseas in harm's way. </P>


In his defense, though, he seems to have learned from that ans has toned down his act in the pros . . . . </P>


</P>


We've had soldiers in harm's way ever since and I hear these references all the time.</P>


"Warriors", "Good Soldiers" etc.....</P>


All the time my friend.</P>

lawl
05-21-2012, 03:03 PM
Our 3 TE set would be pretty sweet

hungrrrry
05-21-2012, 03:24 PM
do we have room under the cap? I am all for competition at TE and truely don't believe Beckum is worthy of keeping his roster spot but it wouldn't bother me either way if we brought Winslow in.

miked1958
05-21-2012, 04:04 PM
KELLEN WINSLOW JR: SHOULD THE NEW YORK GIANTS BE INTERESTED? (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/5/21/3034222/kellen-winslow-junior-new-york-giants-tampa-bay-buccaneers-greg-schiano-nfl-rumors)

"Should the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants) be interested in tight end Kellen Winslow (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2695/kellen-winslow) if and when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers) cut him loose? The talented Winslow, 28, is not in the plans of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kellen-Winslow-Jr-says-Bucs-will-look-to-trade-him.html) -- that much has become obvious.

<DIV class=entry-body>



Let's make one thing clear -- the Giants are not going to make a trade for Winslow. The guy has a $3.3 million salary for 2012, is signed for three more years and has bad knees. Despite the 75 catches he made in 2011 trading for a guy like this is not something the Giants so. What they do is sign a more under-the-radar tight end with something to prove -- like they did with Martellus Bennett (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/34521/martellus-bennett).</P>


Still, if and when Winslow inevitably hits the free-agent market -- where his price will likely be much lower -- is he worth at least kicking the tires on?</P>


Matt Bowen (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1857/matt-bowen) of the National Football Post is intrigued by Winslow as a free agent (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Would-you-make-a-play-for-Kellen-Winslow.html), saying "a healthy, in-shape Winslow is still a tough matchup for a safety that rolls down from the middle of the field in coverage."</P>


The Giants have Bennett and they drafted Adrien Robinson (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/155060/adrien-robinson) in the fourth round. Even with them around, would the 6-foot-4, 264-pound Winslow be worth the gamble?"</P></DIV>


NO..... simple</P>


</P>

miked1958
05-21-2012, 04:06 PM
We have Bennett, Robinson, Pascoe, Hopkins already in Camp. We also have 2injured TEs that will start season on PUP list Ballard and Beckum. </P>


</P>


Dont think we need Wilslow IMO</P>

NFCEastBeast
05-21-2012, 04:26 PM
your an idiot

GIANTSACK
05-21-2012, 04:53 PM
I think Ballard is alot better than Winslow. Hes young. Very good hands and plays with heart. If he didnt make that catch over the middle against the pat in the regular season we may not even be superbowl champs.

We are set at TE.. Pascoe amd Bennet can hold the fort down untill Ballard gets back.

C1010
05-21-2012, 05:01 PM
Bennett, Robinson, and Ballard are our future.

GMENAGAIN
05-21-2012, 05:04 PM
your an idiot</P>


I love when someone uses misspelled words to call someone else an idiot . . . . . </P>

giantsfan420
05-21-2012, 05:13 PM
your an idiot</P>


I love when someone uses misspelled words to call someone else an idiot . . . . . </P>

Lol "your" right.

Mod_C
05-21-2012, 05:15 PM
your an idiot

Who is that directed at and why?

Mod_C
05-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Bennett, Robinson, and Ballard are our future.


Perhaps, but Ballard is not in the near future due to injury.

Captain Chaos
05-21-2012, 05:22 PM
An interesting thought, especially if you are going to bring him in to help school Robinson and Bennett. It might be well worth the contract to provide some serious mentoring. Then again with Pope coaching you may not need it, but it sure would be tempting. Additionally, with our WR tandem the TE can really do some damage if the opposing D is not paying attention.

giantsfan420
05-21-2012, 05:23 PM
Bennett, Robinson, and Ballard are our future.


Perhaps, but Ballard is not in the near future due to injury.


I hate to say it but i dont think ballard will ever get back to the level he showed this past season. He was able to overcome his lack of speed with determination, solid route running and understanding of our scheme, and even then he had streaks of inconsistent play.

If he loses a step which is almost guaranteed, i dont see how he could overcome such a lack of speed when he was already slow pre injury.

Im hopeful he proves me wrong, but his injury is serious, takes almost two yrs to recover fully and usually results in a lost step or two...

Jr signed him to a one year contract bc i believe he didnt want to commit to him until he can see where ballards game is at. Such a ****ty thing, ballard earned the respect he deserves, played with tremendous heart...ill never forget the sideline view of him taping up his knee and trying to run on it to get back in the sb and try to help us win...thats serious heart...ill be rooting for him for sure but am not optimistic

Mod_C
05-21-2012, 05:25 PM
Bennett, Robinson, and Ballard are our future.


Keeping Pascoe give us insurance for Hynoski going down, God forbid.

gmen0820
05-21-2012, 05:25 PM
No... we have enough "soldiers".</P>


He was treated unfairly for that comment.* Football players have been making military references about themselves since they were wearing leather helmets.</P>


</P>


Nah, that comment was an incredibly dumb one to make when we had actual soldiers overseas in harm's way.* </P>


In his defense, though, he seems to have learned from that ans has toned down his act in the pros . . . . </P>


</P>


We've had soldiers in harm's way ever since and I hear these references all the time.</P>


"Warriors", "Good Soldiers"* etc.....</P>


All the time my friend.</P>I don't believe anyone really cares that he said it and meant it as disrespect.

I could care less that he said soldier, the thing about the comment is just a reflection of what a ****ing tool he appears to be.

GMENAGAIN
05-21-2012, 05:27 PM
Bennett, Robinson, and Ballard are our future.


Perhaps, but Ballard is not in the near future due to injury.
I hate to say it but i dont think ballard will ever get back to the level he showed this past season. He was able to overcome his lack of speed with determination, solid route running and understanding of our scheme, and even then he had streaks of inconsistent play. If he loses a step which is almost guaranteed, i dont see how he could overcome such a lack of speed when he was already slow pre injury. Im hopeful he proves me wrong, but his injury is serious, takes almost two yrs to recover fully and usually results in a lost step or two... Jr signed him to a one year contract bc i believe he didnt want to commit to him until he can see where ballards game is at. Such a ****ty thing, ballard earned the respect he deserves, played with tremendous heart...ill never forget the sideline view of him taping up his knee and trying to run on it to get back in the sb and try to help us win...thats serious heart...ill be rooting for him for sure but am not optimistic</P>


I have the same fear about how this knee injury -- which was a bad one by all accounts -- will affect Ballard.</P>

JesseJames
05-21-2012, 06:25 PM
most of us agree that Beckum is not a TE to count on and Bennett has to show us he is a starter and Ballard indicated he might not be able to play next season so if we can pick up a very good pass catching veteran TE like Winslow I say absolutely, but like many other players we'd like to have it will take money the team supposedly doesn't have...Winslow is a devastating matchup for defenders because of his size and catching ability...