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RoanokeFan
06-13-2012, 08:38 PM
<font size="4"><font size="3">BEST NFL DEFENSE: STEELERS OR GIANTS? (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/06/13/best-nfl-defense-steelers-or-giants)

"</font></font>The second “In the Trenches” matchup searching for the best defense in the
NFL matches up the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New York Giants. The fans will
decide which team moves on to the semifinals to face the Baltimore Ravens.
Here’s what the PFW staff had to say about the two defenses:


Associate editor Arthur Arkush:
“The one clear advantage
the Giants’ defense has over the Steelers’ is applying pressure. New York’s
front four is just loaded with pass rushers who can get upfield in a variety of
ways. But in nearly every other statistical category, Pittsburgh is a notch
above New York. Now, that’s not to say the aging Steelers will always be on top,
but they definitely proved last season that the Pittsburgh brand of physical,
aggressive 'D,' masterminded by the legendary *** LeBeau and spearheaded by
arguably the best linebacking corps in the NFL is still alive and well.”</p>


Editor-in-chief Keith Schleiden:
“Yes, the Giants are the
defending Super Bowl champs, and they held the explosive Patriots to a mere 17
points in the title game. The Steelers, on the other hand, were eliminated from
the postseason after the offensively-challenged, Tim Tebow-led Broncos racked up
29 points in the wild-card round. But on any given Sunday, I’d put my money on
the Steelers turning in a better defensive performance than the Giants.
Pittsburgh ranked first in overall defense (yards allowed) in 2011, compared to
New York’s 27th. The Steelers were also tops in the league in limiting scoring
(227 points allowed), while the Giants were 25th (400). That says it all.”</p>


Senior editor Mike Wilkening:
“The Steelers' defense is
exceptionally sound, physical and consistent. Offenses aren't often going to
consistently get the better of Pittsburgh over four quarters. There is a lot of
focus on the Steelers' weaknesses — insert the reasonable concerns about the age
of some of their stars here — but no defense gave up fewer yards and points a
season ago. The Giants' defense has an outstanding line and a knack for coming
up big in the postseason, but the Steelers are the better group on balance.”</p>


Senior editor Eric Edholm:
“The stats say the Steelers —
I say phooey. The Giants had two bad spells last season when the ‘D’ broke down,
and it inflated the numbers to unsavory levels. But by the end of the season,
which group was more dominant? The Steelers look old, and I am not sure that we
haven’t seen the best of guys such as Troy Polamalu and James Harrison. The
Giants are young and dangerous — their ‘old’ parts are players such as
30-year-old Osi Umenyiora, a part-time (albiet important) player now. The only
position where the Steelers have an edge is at linebacker, but the Giants have
big edges over them on the line and in the secondary, in my mind.”</p>


Associate editor Kevin Fishbain:
“Steelers — I know
they're older, but that front seven getting after the quarterback and stopping
the run is still among the league's elite. Pair that with one of the NFL's
greats at safety, and Steel City still gets the nod. The Giants stepped up late
in the season and get the edge at pass rush, but I'm not as confident in their
linebackers and secondary as I am in Pittsburgh's.”</p>


Producer Mark Schoeck:
“It looks like the Giants have the
Steelers beat in terms of dominant personnel on all levels. So why have two of
the past four Defensive Player of the Year awards gone to Steelers, and none
have gone to the Giants? Because the Steelers are more efficient, better
coached, and they continue to rank among the league’s best in yards and points
allowed year after year. That includes 2011, when they ranked first in each of
the categories.”</p>


Senior producer Adam Anshell:
“I'm not ready to write off
the Steelers just yet. While is seemed like a down season in 2011, when you look
at the numbers, that really wasn't the case. Pittsburgh led the league in total
defense, but they just didn't have the big impact plays that we're used to. The
roster turnover on defense has brought in an influx of new blood that should
bring some life back to the defense. While it's hard to argue with a defense
that led the G-Men to the Super Bowl, I'll still take the Steel Curtain in this
matchup.”
</p>


Senior editor Nolan Nawrocki:
"The Giants have a more
athletic, terrorizing pass rush with a havoc-wreaking group of condors that
intuitively know how to spread their wings and disrupt quarterbacks, but ***
LeBeau is the best in the league at creating pressure packages with a LB unit
that stacks among the NFL’s best. Having the oldest defense in the league last
season took some toll in Pittsburgh, but LeBeau’s defense works best with savvy
vetera ns who know the intricacies of his system. The presence of Troy Polamalu
gives the Steelers an edge despite its advanced age."</p>

Flip Empty
06-13-2012, 08:41 PM
Haha, I love how **** LeBeau gets censored.

Yankees807
06-13-2012, 09:58 PM
Giants bc of DEPTH. Steelers have a better LB crew though

NYGRealityCheck
06-13-2012, 10:16 PM
Giants run a 4-3 with a 4 solid pass rushers.
Steelers run a 3-4 with 4 solid LBs.

We will get to see the matchup this regular season and maybe the Superbowl. Steelers need to regroup for 2012 after being owned by the Ravens and getting Tebow-ed in the playoffs.

Kase-1
06-13-2012, 10:30 PM
We've been getting younger and younger at each starting position and filling those spots with quality players.

Pittsburgh on the other hand is trying to grasp on their key defensive players (who are older) but dont have the quality in the youth like we do

NYGRealityCheck
06-13-2012, 10:34 PM
We've been getting younger and younger at each starting position and filling those spots with quality players.

Pittsburgh on the other hand is trying to grasp on their key defensive players (who are older) but dont have the quality in the youth like we do


+1. This is where the Giants have the edge.

slipknottin
06-13-2012, 11:43 PM
Pitt and its not even close.

They had a ton of injuries last season (just like the giants did) and Pitt still finished as the #1 rated defense.

Giants have as much talent as anyone, but apart from the 2008 season, have never been able to show up consistently snap to snap game to game.

DemandedAce
06-13-2012, 11:45 PM
We've been getting younger and younger at each starting position and filling those spots with quality players.

Pittsburgh on the other hand is trying to grasp on their key defensive players (who are older) but dont have the quality in the youth like we do


+1. This is where the Giants have the edge.

This and the fact that the Steelers play in a less than explosive division offensively. They play the Ravens and Bengals twice, not terrible but Flacco and Dalton? Not setting the world on fire, and they play the Browns twice which is just lultastic ezmode. We play the Eagles and Cowboys, offensive powers, and the Skins who aren't terrible offensively. Couple that with the fact that we ALSO played the Saints, Packers, and Patriots last season and it makes you laugh that people talk about yards gained like it's trophies in a case

PrideofNY
06-13-2012, 11:52 PM
Is this asking for the better defense between the two, or the best?


Because if its the best, I think the 49ers are better than both.

ShakeNBake
06-14-2012, 12:18 AM
The Steelers have the better defense, but we have the potential to be better than them. Right now we are not playing at a high level consistently enough to be considered as good as the Steelers.

Captain Chaos
06-14-2012, 06:18 AM
We've been getting younger and younger at each starting position and filling those spots with quality players.

Pittsburgh on the other hand is trying to grasp on their key defensive players (who are older) but dont have the quality in the youth like we do


+1. This is where the Giants have the edge.

This and the fact that the Steelers play in a less than explosive division offensively. They play the Ravens and Bengals twice, not terrible but Flacco and Dalton? Not setting the world on fire, and they play the Browns twice which is just lultastic ezmode. We play the Eagles and Cowboys, offensive powers, and the Skins who aren't terrible offensively. Couple that with the fact that we ALSO played the Saints, Packers, and Patriots last season and it makes you laugh that people talk about yards gained like it's trophies in a case

None of these geniouses talked about the competition, not saying that the Steelers aren't good but there is a difference. Last year our LB corps was the weak link, I think that this changes this year. I think adding Rivers and another year under our young guys belts and it will be a different story!

Rat_bastich
06-14-2012, 06:37 AM
Steelers. They are consistently good. Solid D-Line, good linebackers and solid secondary.

With the Giants you don't know if they are going to show up week to week. Even last year it wasn't until it was on the line that they began to show up and it was kick started by JPP.