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</div></div><u><font size="4">NY DAILY NEWS</font></u><div>
AND THAT'S A WRAP (ON THE OFFSEASON) (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/and-thats-a-wrap-on-the-offseason)

"All good things must come to an end, though I’m not sure that “good things”
is an apt way to describe what seemed like both the shortest and longest
offseason in recent memory. As defending Super Bowl champions, the Giants had to
pack a lot into a comparatively little time between Super Bowl XLVI and the end
of their minicamp last week.



They got it all in, though, and not just
the parades and parties and <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/giants-hope-white-house-visit-isnt-their-last">trips
to the White House</a>. They signed all their draft picks, restocked their team,
<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/osis-substandard-deal-one-year-6-million">cleaned
up the annual Osi Umenyiora</a> mess and even <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/coughlin-signs-three-year-20-million-deal">signed
Tom Coughlin to a contract extension</a>.

And now they rest.

And
so do I.

Before I depart for my much-needed vacation, though, I’ll leave
you a few thoughts on the offseason and the recently completed minicamp (though
I caution you to keep in mind it’s impossible to tell much from three days of
non-contact, no-pads practices). Training camp opens on July 26 at the
University at Albany. I’ll be back sometime before then to start prepping for
the title defense.

In the meantime, in case there is any important
breaking news, make sure you’re checking the <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants">Daily News Giants
page</a>, and you should always be following @TheBlueScreen on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheBlueScreen), too.
You know, just in case.

Emptying my notebook of a few final thoughts


-RB David Wilson, the Giants’ first-round pick,
is very, very quick. Da’Rel Scott is fast, as everyone saw last preseason, but
Wilson’s straight-ahead speed has to be pretty close. And he has what Scott
doesn’t – a great burst when he cuts to the outside and lightning quick moves. I
believe running backs coach Jerald Ingram calls that “shake”. He looks like a
guy who can make defenders miss and find holes to run through pretty quick.
We’ll know more when the pads are on, but <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/wilsons-explosiveness-wows-gilbride">the
early returns on the top pick</a> are very good.

-I wouldn’t
rule out Ramses Barden for the No. 3 receiver job, though I hesitate to
say that because he’s become something of a legendary spring and summer player.
He had a strong couple of days of practices, which isn’t unusual. However, the
favorite has to be rookie Rueben Randle, the Giants’ second-rounder. He had some
drops early in OTAs, but I don’t recall seeing any during this camp and he
looked good turning upfield after catches over the middle. Barden can catch, but
the knock on him (OK, one of the knocks) has been his lack of a burst and
inability to separate from defenders. That doesn’t seem to be a problem for
Randle. What about Jerrel Jernigan, you ask? Hard to see him winning this job
outright, mostly due to his size. He could be a useful situational slot
receiver, though.

-The Giants screwed up by losing Jake Ballard
to the Patriots, no doubt. The fact is they had a young player they
liked and they lost him for nothing, all because either Tom Coughlin or Jerry
Reese <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/defiant-reese-wont-explain-loss-of-ballard">didn’t
want to “waste” a roster spot on him all summer</a> when he wasn’t likely to
play in 2012. What I don’t get about that is rosters have expanded from 80 to
90, so even if they kept Ballard the Giants still would’ve had nine more players
in camp than they’ve had in previous years. Plus, they aren’t carrying a second
punter or kicker and only three quarterbacks, so they certainly had plenty of
room to “stash” him. … That said, this isn’t a big deal. Ballard isn’t Tony
Gonzalez. He was a very pleasant surprise last year and seems like a good
player, but he’s not very fast and wasn’t a great blocker. Add in that he wasn’t
going to play in 2012 and not everyone comes back from microfracture surgery and
is the same player, there’s no guarantee that he’d ever duplicate what he did
last year. Ballard was a nice player. If they could’ve kept him, that would’ve
been great. But it’s not a loss that figures to have any impact on the Giants
long-term.

-Alarm bells went off when the Giants re-signed DT
Rocky Bernard, because they sure seemed overloaded with players at that
position. Chris Canty and Linval Joseph are the entrenched starters and Marvin
Austin and Shaun Rogers seem to be the backups. Then again, Canty is recovering
from knee surgery and Joseph is recovering from ankle surgery and Rogers missed
all of spring with an elbow injury. Also, Rogers is listed at 350 but looks
much, much more. And then there’s Marvin Austin, the Giants’ second-round pick
in 2011 who hasn’t played a game since the end of the 2009 season. He missed
2010 because he was suspended for his senior season at North Carolina and then
2011 with a torn pec. And now, word is he’s overweight. Defensive coordinator
Perry Fewell didn’t say that in so many words, but …”It will be up to Marvin to
come back in peak condition,” Fewell said. “So these next five weeks he has off,
I assume he will really crank it up and get into better condition.” Told that
Austin looked a little big, Fewell said “You know what, he doesn’t look big
besides Shaun Rogers and Linval Joseph and Chris Canty and those guys. So hey,
I’ll go for it right now.”

--I’m a long way away from making my
prediction, but I’m astonished by the number of starters this team
returns. Really all they lost was RT Kareem McKenzie, TE Jake Ballard and CB
Aaron Ross. But they have last year’s No. 1 pick (Prince Amukamara) and the
previous starter (Terrell Thomas) competing to replace Ross, their top
free-agent target (Martellus Bennett) to replace Ballard, and even without
McKenzie they’ll still start five offensive linemen with starting experience. I
don’t know if the Giants will win the Super Bowl, but if they stay healthy I see
them getting off to a 2008-like start, where they built on the confidence of
their surprise Super Bowl run and began rolling. The Packers did the same thing
last year.

-Eli Manning looked off during the three-day
minicamp, proving that everyone was right about his <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/eli-manning-debuts-at-31-on-nfls-top-100">No.
31 ranking on the NFL Network’s Top 100</a>. It was obviously way too high. …
OK, I’m just kidding. Clearly there’s no reason to worry about Manning. I also
can’t get overheated about the NFL Network’s stupid list. The players voting on
it (whomever they are … I’ve yet to find any) are doing the same bang-up job
they used to do on the Pro Bowl. Absolutely, Manning should’ve been higher. A
little higher, anyway. I don’t know where I’d rank him, but I don’t think I
would’ve complained if he were anywhere in the Top 20. I also don’t have a major
issue with him being ranked behind Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. I’m
a little surprised he’s behind Ben Roethlisberger (30), but I can at least
understand the arguments for the other three. Bottom line, though, Eli Manning
is the reigning Super Bowl MVP, so who cares?

--One last word on
the NFL Network Top 100. I do have an issue with this: Jason
Pierre-Paul (24) being ranked ahead of Manning. Pierre-Paul is a beast and is
probably one of the Top 5-10 defensive players in the NFL. But Manning is the
best and most important player on the Giants. Period.

--I sensed
a little worry in Kevin Gilbride’s voice about injured WR Hakeem Nicks,
who has a broken foot and likely won’t be back until the middle of training camp
… the Giants hope. Maybe it’s nothing, or maybe it’s just a coach fretting over
depth. There is some potential depth at receiver, but not a lot of proven depth.
And as good as Victor Cruz was last season, no one knows how he’ll fare without
Hakeem Nicks or Mario Manningham to take away some of the attention of the
defense. If it’s Cruz and Randle or Barden lining up as the starting WRs on
opening night, the offense could look a lot different.

--No,
Martellus Bennett did not look fat. Hey, <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/06/bennett-the-freak-insists-im-not-fat">he
asked</a>.

--Some of the young and relatively unknown players
that stood out to the coaches at minicamp included third-year safety
Stevie Brown, rookie receiver Brandon Collins (Texas and then Southeast
Louisiana), first-year safety Will Hill (Florida), rookie LB Jake Muasau
(Georgia State), and third-year tight end Ryan Purvis. A few others to keep an
eye on during training camp: Third-string QB Ryan Perrilloux, who has a cannon
for an arm and has looked very sharp; first-year WR Dan DePalma, who has drawn
raves from teammates and some team execs;second-year DE Justin Trattou, who is a
good bet to fill the Dave Tollefson role as the Giants’ fourth defensive
end.
</p>


***
And that’s that

This will be the final blog
entry of the 2012 offseason. As I said earlier, I’ll be back somewhere in
mid-to-late July to begin previewing the Giants’ training camp at the University
at Albany which begins when players report on July 26. (<a href="http://www.ualbanysports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&amp;ATCLID=205436868&amp;DB_OEM _ID=15800">For
the full training camp schedule, click here</a>).

Things happen, of
course, when you least expect them so seriously, keep checking the <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants">Daily News Giants
page</a> throughout the rest of the beginning of summer, and as always make sure
you’re following <a href="https://twitter.com/#%21/TheBlueScreen">@TheBlueScreen
on Twitter</a> too.

And here’s another reason to follow @TheBlueScreen on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#%21/TheBlueScreen):
Inspired by the NFL Network’s ridicu-list (otherwise known as their Top 100)
I’ll be unveiling my Top 10 Giants players. You can only view them on Twitter
over the next few weeks, so make sure you’re following. I may throw in another
Top 10 li"st or two, too.

In the mean time, have a safe and enjoyable
start to your summer. See you when the Super Bowl title defense begins again in
late July.</p><div><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants
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<div><div><u><font size="4">NY POST</font></u>
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<a href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants">http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/blackburn_tops_offseason_depth_chart_1Kfoty3yOdEWa GUdCkX1VM)
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</div><u><font size="4">THE BERGEN RECORD</font></u>
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DAUGHTER MOTIVATES TERRELL THOMAS (http://www.northjersey.com/sports/159334765_Giant_responsibility.html)

"Terrell Thomas was starting to feel sorry for his circumstance.<div id="storybody">


Less than 48 hours had passed since the Giants’ cornerback underwent knee
surgery, the frustrating and sudden nature of his situation was becoming a bit
overwhelming.</p>


Poised for a breakthrough season last summer, presumably with a big contract
on the horizon for one of the NFL’s rising stars at his position, Thomas’ right
knee gave out.</p>


He was poised to make the transition from good player to great, from
respected in his own locker room to being feared by the opposition.</p>


Then with a sudden and cruel twist of fate, all of those expectations were
gone.</p>


Just when Thomas was on the verge of losing it, though, his biggest fan –
daughter Tatum Aspen, now 2 – refused to let him.</p>


"Two days after I tore my ACL, I was on my crutches in the kitchen and she
walks in and says, ‘Up!’ She didn’t care about nothing and she threw a tantrum
until I picked her up," Thomas recalled in an interview with The Record last
week. "She didn’t care about the crutches. She just wanted to be around her
daddy and it helped me get over [the injury] because I couldn’t let her see me
down.</p>


"I was out for the season, but she’s the reason I wasn’t going to give up on
getting back."</p>


The silver lining from being forced to the sideline and away from the team
and the game he loves was the perspective gained from time spent with the person
closest to his heart.</p>


Thomas vowed to return and regain his starting job on the Giants’
defense.</p>


He would do so with the appreciation of a father motivated to make his
daughter proud on and off the field.</p>


"It’s a blessing and a responsibility more than anything. I hold her future
in my hands," said Thomas, who shares custody with Tatum’s mother. "The way I
mold her, the way I love her, the way I teach her is the way hopefully her
characteristics and traits will come out when she gets older."</p>


Having been raised by a single mother, Thomas promises the lessons taught to
him growing up have shaped his ideals in parenthood.</p>


"I take the responsibility – I want to be everything for my daughter," said
Thomas, 27. "I want to teach her everything and always let her know that her
father loves her, and I guess that just stems from me not having a father around
in my life. I want to teach her about morals, discipline and structure, and just
giving her that foundation of how a man should treat you.</p>


"If anything, it motivated me to be a better father whenever I had that
chance."</p>


A collage featuring the words "My Angel" above nearly two dozen photos of
Tatum hangs in Thomas’ locker, another reminder of the emotional constant in his
journey back to Big Blue and the quest to recapture what has been lost.</p>


The rehabilitation process has been grueling – soothed somewhat by the
healing powers of a toddler and her willingness to kiss the boo-boos away.</p>


"It’s easy to say I just want to come back healthy, but why stop there. I’ve
been kicking my butt in the off-season to get my leg right and get back," said
Thomas, who led the Giants in tackles, interceptions and passes defended for two
consecutive seasons prior to his injury. "My goals haven’t changed. I want the
Pro Bowl and I’m going to push Corey [Webster] – Corey should have gone last
year – and we’ve been going back and forth.</p>


"I got a Super Bowl ring because these guys made sure I got one. Now my focus
is to go earn another one and be out there with my teammates when we do."</p>


Thomas expects to be on the field with no limitations when the Giants report
to training camp July 26 in Albany, N.Y.</p>


He participated in offseason training activities and minicamp, but will not
fully push his surgically-repaired knee until then.</p>


"He is in our plans," defensive coordinator Perry Fewell said. "We have a
backup plan in case he is not ready, but he is heavily in our plans. And we’ll
have to wait until Albany to see which plan we go with. Like anything we do we
have a Plan A and Plan B.</p>


"And he is in Plan A."</p>


In five weeks, Tatum will again kiss Daddy’s knee and send him off to
work.</p>


Being home in California until then is enough of a Father’s Day present for
Thomas, although he also wouldn’t mind something crafted by Tatum herself.</p>


"Maybe I’ll get a gift that she made for me in school, a drawing or
something," Thomas said with a smile. "I can’t wait to be back on the field and
helping our team go after another Super Bowl and building that dynasty [Justin]
Tuck and some other guys have talked about.</p>


"But right now I’m really looking forward to spending time with my daughter
and making her the center of attention."</p></div>http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/
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<u><font size="4">WALL STREET JOURNAL</font></u>

http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-sports-nfl.html

<u><font size="4">THE NEW YORK TIMES</font></u>

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html">[url]http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html
</a>
<u><font size="4">GIANTS 101</font></u>
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NEW ORLEANS SAINTS' ROMAN HARPER WAS ONCE DUE $1,000 FOR KNOCKING BRANDON JACOBS OUT OF GAME (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/19/new-orleans-saints-roman-harper-once-due-1000-for-knocking-brandon-jacobs-out-of-game/)

"Among highlights from the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)'s 93-minute press briefing on Monday, which detailed
evidence from the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New Orleans" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-orleans/" rel="tag nofollow">New
Orleans</a> Saints' BountyGate scandal, included proof that safety Roman Harper
was once due $1,000 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/06/saints-evidence-bounty-appeal/1#.T-Br3ZE8X_Y) for knocking New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
Giants running back <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Brandon Jacobs" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/brandon-jacobs/" rel="tag nofollow">Brandon
Jacobs</a> out of a game. It was the second such bounty paid out for injuring a
Giants player, the first being offensive lineman Kareem McKenzie in 2009 (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/02/new-orleans-saints-earned-rewards-for-injuring-new-york-giants-players-in-2009/).


A look back at the history between the Giants and Saints indicates that both
payouts came from the same game; a game in which the Saints defeated the Giants
48-27. However, Jacobs would ultimately exact revenge on Harper when he
completely obliterated the veteran safety during a Monday night game in
2011.</p>

Jacobs would not miss any time as a result of his injury in 2009, but
McKenzie went on to miss the following game against the Arizona Cardinals
because of the groin injury he sustained at the hands of the Saints.</p>


As evidence continues to mount against <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New Orleans" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-orleans/" rel="tag nofollow">New
Orleans</a>, don't be surprised if you hear about more bounties that were placed
on members of the Giants. In recent years, cheap shots have been quite evident
against the likes of quarterback Eli Manning and more recently, wide receiver
Hakeem Nicks.</p>


In the mean time, we'll have to listen to Saints quarterback <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Drew Brees" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/drew-brees/" rel="tag nofollow">Drew
Brees</a> try to dismiss Bountygate any way he can.</p>
<blockquote>


“If NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) fans were
told there were ‘weapons of mass destruction’ enough times, they’d believe it,”
Brees tweeted. “But what happens when you don’t find any?”</p></blockquote>


It's worth noting that alleged proof exists that Brees was not only aware of
the bounties, but he was aware that proof of the bounties also existed (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-06-02/new-orleans-saints-bounties-drew-brees-scott-fujita-gregg-williams-tape)."</p>WILL THE GIANTS STILL USE THEIR THREE SAFETY PACKAGE IN 2012? (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/18/will-the-new-york-giants-still-utilize-their-three-safety-package/)

"Although safety Deon Grant was a starter for the New York Giants in last
year's <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Super Bowl" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/super-bowl/" rel="tag nofollow">Super
Bowl</a>, General Manager <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jerry Reese" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jerry-reese/" rel="tag nofollow">Jerry
Reese</a> has so far decided not to bring back the 13 year veteran out of Tennessee (http://www.giants101.com/tag/tennessee/)
for the upcoming season. Grant was a veteran leader on the field; and even took
on the role as defensive signal caller while Michael Boley was injured last
season. However, father time takes his toll on everyone, and DeonGrant is no
exception.


With Grant most likely out of the picture, many have speculated that we have
seen the last of Defensive Coordinator <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Perry Fewell" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/perry-fewell/" rel="tag nofollow">Perry
Fewell</a>'sinnovative three safety packages. However, Fewell disputes this
notion. He recently stated the following:</p>
<blockquote>


"We are just going to wait and see," Fewell said. "Obviously, we like that
particular package, and we don't want to lose that package. We think that is
valuable for us. But with the additions of these linebackers that we have, we
can be a little bit more creative, we think. And so we just have to find out who
goes where, who can learn the best, and then we will take it from
there."</p></blockquote>


Last season, the three safety package was used mainly because of a rash of
injuries in the secondary. With no true nickel corner, the team had no choice
but to put <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Antrel Rolle" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/antrel-rolle/" rel="tag nofollow">Antrel
Rolle</a>in man coverage against slot receivers. This necessitated having
another free safety to put on the field and take on Rolle's traditional pass
coverage responsibilities. DeonGrant was more than serviceablein filling that
need.</p>


This season, however, there is considerable depth in the secondary.
Cornerback's <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Prince Amukamara" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/prince-amukamara/" rel="tag nofollow">Prince
Amukamara</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jayron Hosley" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jayron-hosley/" rel="tag nofollow">Jayron
Hosley</a>, Justin Tryon, and Antwuan Molden are all competing for roster spots;
and it is more than likely that one of them will be used as a nickel cornerback.
We could even see one of them moved to safety. Furthermore, do not be surprised
to see second year player <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tyler Sash" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tyler-sash/" rel="tag nofollow">Tyler
Sash</a> take a step forward this season.</p>


Needless to say, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Perry Fewell" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/perry-fewell/" rel="tag nofollow">Perry
Fewell</a> will have a lot of options in the defensive backfield throughout the
2012 campaign. The influx of healthy defensive backs, as well as having a more
experienced and athletic linebacker core will enable him to be extremely
creative in utilizing personnel. While it is hard to see how Big Blue would
still use the three safety look, it has been effective in the past. Therefore,
look for <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Perry Fewell" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/perry-fewell/" rel="tag nofollow">Perry
Fewell</a> to find creative ways to utilize three safeties at the same time on
the defensive side of the ball this season; however, do not expect to see it
used in the same fashion as it was in 2011."</p>http://www.giants101.com/

<u><font size="4">BIG BLUE VIEW</font></u><span id="entry_flag_counts_2011/12/23/2655531/friday-five-with-pat-traina-jets-giants-edition" class="flag-counts"><span class="light"></span> </span><span id="entry_flag_links_2011/12/23/2655531/friday-five-with-pat-traina-jets-giants-edition"></span>

SUPER BOWL COMPARISON: BETTER TEAM, 2007 OR 2011 GIANTS? (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/19/3096612/super-bowl-comparison-better-team-2007-or-2011-new-york-giants)

"The New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
have, as you know, won the Super Bowl twice in the last five seasons. But, which
team was better, the 2007 Giants or the 2011 version?
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For a little summer offseason project I thought I would spend some time going
position-by-position and comparing. In some cases, like quarterback, that will
mean comparing the 2007 version of a player to his 2011 version. </p>
<p class="extend-divide"><a name="storyjump"></a>http://cdn1.sbnation.com/images/blog/star-divide.v5e9d7f1.jpg</p>


To give us a starting point, and out of curiosity, I used the simulator at WhatIfSports.com (http://WhatIfSports.com) and ran games
between the two teams 25 times. I thought the results would come out fairly
even, but the '07 version of the Giants won 19 of those simulated games. I am
trying to get the folks at 'WhatIf' to run a more exhaustive simulation, which
might give us more conclusive data.</p>


Before I begin a full-blown look at every position, though, I might as well
just put the question out there. Which team do you think was better? Why? Vote
in the poll, then drop a comment and let us know which team you chose and
why.</p>
<fieldset class="poll-box"><legend>Poll</legend>
<h5 class="poll-title">Which New York Giants Super Bowl team was better, the 2007
team or the 2011 team?</h5>
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NY GIANTS' NEWS AND NOTES: THE REAL LT EDITION (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/19/3096551/new-york-giants-news-lawrence-taylor-ladainian-tomlinson-nfl-bounty-investigation)

Excerpt: "Good morning, New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
fans! Just a couple of notes for you on this off-season Tuesday morning.



<a href="http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/09000d5d829f13b8/who-is-the-real-lt?module=HP11_content_stream">Who
is the real L.T.? | NFL.com</a>
Asking who the real "L.T." is is the only way
to start an argument faster than proposing a discussion on "LeBron v. Jordan".
Now that <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/3033/ladainian-tomlinson">LaDainian
Tomlinson</a> has retired, the debate can finally be put to rest. Who has earned
the right to own the nickname: Tomlinson or Lawrence Taylor? I fully realize if
we were having this conversation in five years Lauren Tannehill would have to be
a part of it, but, thank goodness, it's only 2012. There are plenty of
categories to help us decide the rightful owner, and there must be careful
consideration, because a nickname can sometimes be more valuable than a Super
Bowl ring. (Okay, not really, but "Laces Out" Dan Marino might tell you
different.)</p>


Valentine's View: You guys know how I feel about this one. In the end,
NFL.com comes to the same conclusion." Read more...
</p>
http://www.bigblueview.com/section/news



<u><font size="4">INSIDE FOOTBALL</font></u>


http://www.insidefootball.com/



<font size="4"><u>THE RED ZONE
</u></font><font size="4">
</font><font size="4"><font size="3">http://www.theredzone.org/</font> (http://www.theredzone.org/)

</font><font size="4"><u>GIANTS GAB</u></font>




<font size="3">http://www.giantsgab.com/</font> (http://www.giantsgab.com/)



<u><font size="4">GMEN HQ</font></u>



http://gmenhq.com/



<font size="4"><u>YARDBARKER</u></font>

<span class="bottom-content-links"></span>
COULD JEREMY SHOCKEY RETURN TO GIANTS? (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/could_te_jeremy_shockey_return_to_the_new_york_gia nts/11043827)

"Following a bitter breakup with the New York Giants, could
veteran tight end Jeremy Shockey find his way back onto the
team’s roster this season? Shockey remains without a job, receiving little
interest on the free agent market this year, and according to <a title="shockey" href="http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-14/news/31183289_1_jeremy-shockey-gm-jerry-reese-jake-ballard">the
New York Daily News</a>, contacted the franchise in March expressing his desire
to return. New York waived injured tight end Jake Ballard last
week and he was quickly picked up by the New England Patriots.New York had the
intention of re-signing Ballard after waiving him and eventually placing him on
injured reserve for the season.


The Giants acquired former tight end Martellus Bennett in
free agency this year, signing him to a one-year deal worth $2.5 million
dollars. Bennett’s best season with the Dallas Cowboys came in
2010 when he recorded 33 receptions for 260 yards. Bennett reported to Giants
offseason workouts this summer weighing in at 291 pounds, significantly more
than his 265 pound playing weight in years past.</p>


Ballard’s teammate, Travis Beckum is currently rehabbing his
knee after undergoing ACL surgery after the Super Bowl and could start the
season on the PUP list, a move which would ensure that he will miss the first
six games of the regular season.</p>


The Giants currently have five other tight ends on their 90-man offseason
roster. Christian Hopkins, Larry Donnell,
Bear Pascoe, Ryan Purvis and Adrien
Robinson.</p>


Shockey’s best seasons have come during his time with the Giants and will
turn 32 this August. Bennett holds the top tight end position during offseason
workouts, but given the weight issues he brought to camp, one has to wonder if
he can become the vertical threat the Giants are looking for from the tight end
position.</p>


Shockey’s game his diminished with age, but there are few remaining tight
ends left in the free agent market. Shockey burned bridges with his departure
during his first stop with the Giants. Is it possible that the coaching staff
overlooks his past history while filling a possible need for the Giants? If
Bennett struggles, it’s possible that the Giants staff could let bygones be
bygones and make Shockey’s phone ring."</p><font size="3">http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/new_york_giants/56</font> (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/new_york_giants/56)
<font size="4">
<u>SPORTING NEWS

</u><font size="3">http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stories</font> (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stories)<u>
</u>
<u>NYG REPORTER
</u></font>


<a href="http:///">http://nygreporter.com/
</a>


<font size="4"><u>NFL.COM</u></font>


http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG




<font size="3"><font size="4"><u>YAHOOSPORTS</u></font></font>

<font size="3">http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl</font> (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl)


<font size="4"><u>FOX SPORTS</u></font>


<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-york-giants/67056">http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-york-giants/67056
</a>

<u><font size="4">NBCSPORTS</font></u>


http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/3032875/ns/sports-nfl



<font size="4"><u>CBSSPORTS</u></font>


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/NYG/new-york-giants



<u><font size="4">SI.COM</font></u>




http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/teams/new-york-giants/?eref=sinav





<u><font size="4">ESPN.COM</font></u>

<a href="http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/">http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/
</a>
<font size="4"><u>
PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS</u></font>

<font size="4"><font size="3">http://www.profootballfocus.com/</font> (http://www.profootballfocus.com/)

<u>MISCELLANEOUS
</u><font size="3">
PETER KING SAYS EVIDENCE IS "EXPLOSIVE,COMPELLING" (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/18/league-presents-evidence-to-group-of-reporters/related/)

EX-PROSECUTOR PRESENTS NFL'S FINDINGS IN BOUNTY CASE (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/sports/football/ex-prosecutor-presents-nfls-findings-in-bounty-case.html?_r=1&amp;ref=football)

NFL TELLS REPORTERS WILLIAMS ROLLED THE DICE WITH PLAYER SAFETY (http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/27021/NFL-tells-reporters-Williams--rolled-the-dice-with-player-safety-/Default.aspx)

RON GRONKOSKI SAYS HIS ANKLE IS GREAT (http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/27018/Rob-Gronkowski-says-his-ankle-is--great-/Default.aspx)

NFLPA OUTSIDE COUNSEL ON BOUNTYGATE SCANDAL (http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/27015/NFLPA-Outside-Counsel-s-statement-on-bounty-investigation/Default.aspx)

GOODELL HEARS APPEALS FROM BOUNTY SCANDAL PLAYERS (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/06/18/goodell-hears-bounty-appeals-from-players)

</font></font>

Captain Chaos
06-20-2012, 04:37 AM
Thanks Roanoke!!

RoanokeFan
06-20-2012, 10:08 AM
Thanks Roanoke!!

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