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</font></u><font color="#0000FF"><u><font size="4">NEWS
ARTICLES ABOUT THE NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS ARE POSTED DAILY AND
UPDATES ARE ADDED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. GENERAL SPORTS NEWS LINKS ARE
ALSO INCLUDED.


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<font size="4"><u>NEWARK STAR LEDGER</u></font>
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GIANTS' SUMMER QUESTIONNAIRE: FB HENRY HYNOSKI (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/06/giants_summer_questionnaire_fb.html)

"Fullback Henry Hynoski went undrafted last season out of Pittsburgh after
his draft stock plummeted due to an injury during the NFL combine. The Giants
picked him up and he started primarily as a blocker before his role increasingly
expanded in the passing game out of the backfield -- in the regular-season
finale against he caught a career-high four passes for 31 yards and added five
more in two postseason games.<div class="entry-content">


Hynoski talks about having a full offseason under his belt, his role in the
passing game and being one of the last of a dying breed as a fullback in today's
NFL in the latest installment of our <a href="http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/summer_questionnaire/index.html">Giants
summer questionnaire series.</a>

Like the other members of
your rookie class from last season, you're going through your first full
offseason. How has that helped you so far?</p>


I just feel a lot more confident in everything I'm doing. Everything is
flowing more smoothly for me just because I have a whole year under my belt and
I just go out there and I almost know what's going to happen before the play
even starts so I just have a great feel for everything and really just my
confidence level is through the roof right now.

As last season
went on, you became more of a threat to catch passes out of the backfield. Do
you see your role in that capacity increasing?

Oh, yeah.
Absolutely, absolutely. I think I'm going to be more involved not just from a
blocking standpoint Ė Iíll obviously be doing more things with that Ė but I
think from a receiving standpoint I think they see me as a weapon and I think
opponents view me as a weapon out of the backfield so I think it's definitely
something theyíre going to work into the gameplan weekly.

David
Wilson provides a level shiftiness that other running backs on the team don't
provided. Is blocking for him a little different?</p>


We'll see when we put pads on. Right now it's just full speed until contact.
We'll see how everything develops when you could actually make a full and
complete read. But right now there really is no difference. I feel like david,
like Ahmad, is making all the right cuts and right reads and cutting off me
properly and the lineman. It's just hard to get a full speed picture until
you're actually hitting in pads so right now he just seems up to speed with
everything he's doing.

We're seeing fewer and fewer traditional
fullbacks in today's pass-happy NFL. Do you take pride in being one of the few
remaining?</p>


Yeah, absolutely. You know what? If you have a good fullback, they're going
to stick because you always need that lead blocker somewhere to set the tone and
just throw the hammer down once in a while."
</p></div>http://www.nj.com/giants/

</div></div><u><font size="4">NY DAILY NEWS
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GIANTS' CANTY READY FOR CAMP (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-giants-chris-canty-surgically-repaied-knee-better-training-camp-article-1.1102873)

"Defensive tackle Chris Canty (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Chris+Canty), who did
not participate in the Giantsí offseason training program because he was
recovering from knee surgery, says his rehab has him on track to return in time
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ďAll signs point to go,Ē he said. ďIím feeling pretty good about training
camp.Ē</p>


Canty is preparing to host his annual Camp of Champions for youth on
Thursday.</p>


As for his health, he is ďprogressingĒ toward running. The knee feels pretty
good,Ē Canty said. ďItís pretty strong now. Itís stable."</p></div>
</div>http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants
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<div><div><u><font size="4">NY POST</font></u>
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants
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</div><u><font size="4">THE BERGEN RECORD</font></u>
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ZILCH

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/
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<u><font size="4">WALL STREET JOURNAL</font></u>

ZERO

http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-sports-nfl.html

<u><font size="4">THE NEW YORK TIMES</font></u>

NOPE

<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html">http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/strahan_says_giants_robbing_underpaid_3Q5p0msdWPCN dQX7EAo4vL)
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<u><font size="4">GIANTS 101</font></u>
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GIANTS' JOHN MARA: I NEVER LOST FAITH IN TOM COUGHLIN (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/27/new-york-giants-owner-john-mara-i-never-lost-faith-in-tom-coughlin/)

"Stability is a staple of success for any NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) team. Organizations such as the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a>, Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.giants101.com/tag/pittsburgh-steelers/), and <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New England Patriots" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-england-patriots/" rel="tag nofollow">New
England Patriots</a> have been some of the most successful franchises in sports
throughout the last decade; and continuity within those franchises has been a
major contributing factor to each team's success.


Today, in an interview with Mike Francesa on WFAN, Giants President and CEO
John Mara expressed how his philosophy of continuity has benefited the
organization as a whole.</p>
<blockquote>


ďThe worst thing you can do is be impatient and make quick decisions based
on pressure from the media or pressure from the fans. You have to have a
conviction that you have the right people working for you and then you have to
give them a chance to do their job. Youíve got to be able to stay with them when
things arenít going quite so well. Fortunately weíve been able to do
that.</p></blockquote>


Throughout the last several offseason's, Big Blue's front office has time and
time again demonstrated its ability to stay objective in its decision making
process. Most notably, last season when the team was struggling, many fans were
calling for the team to fire head coach <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a>.</p>


However, both John Mara and general manager <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Jerry Reese" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/jerry-reese/" rel="tag nofollow">Jerry
Reese</a> provided nothing but support to the embattled head coach as the team
went on to win its' second <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Super Bowl" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/super-bowl/" rel="tag nofollow">Super
Bowl</a> in five season. Mara commented on that specific situation during his
interview with Francesa.</p>
<blockquote>


ďI never lost faith in Tom [Coughlin]. I knew he was a good head coach. I
knew he could win for us. It was just a question of us providing him with the
right players and getting a break here and there and being able to stay healthy
and fortunately weíve been able to do that. And obviously weíre very pleased
with the way things have turned out.Ē</p></blockquote>


Team's such as the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Oakland Raiders" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/oakland-raiders/" rel="tag nofollow">Oakland
Raiders</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Miami Dolphins" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/miami-dolphins/" rel="tag nofollow">Miami
Dolphins</a>, and <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with St. Louis Rams" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/st-louis-rams/" rel="tag nofollow">St. Louis
Rams</a> that have seen a revolving door at the head coach position throughout
the last decade coincidentally have been bottom dwellers in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) for the past
several seasons. The Giants are fortunate not only to have a coach like <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Tom Coughlin" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/" rel="tag nofollow">Tom
Coughlin</a> as part of their organization, but they are also fortunate to have
a man like Tom Coughlin (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/25/new-york-giants-tom-coughlin-ranked-nfls-1-good-guy/)lead the team week in and week
out.</p>


John Mara knows this better than anybody. His patience and objectivity have
been major factors not only in Big Blue's recent success, but in the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> being widely recognized as a first-class organization by owners,
coaches, players, and fans alike."</p>

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THE STORY BEHIND JUSTIN TUCK'S FACEMASK (http://www.giants101.com/2012/06/26/the-story-behind-new-york-giants-justin-tucks-new-facemask/)

"If you thought last season's facemask of New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants' Defensive End and Captain <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Justin Tuck" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/justin-tuck/" rel="tag nofollow">Justin
Tuck</a> was over the top, then you might find his new design slightly
terrifying. His new facemask looks like something out of a comic book (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/msn/justin_tucks_new_foul_proof_facemask/10999433). You may
ask yourself how a facemask so bulky could prove beneficial. Well Tuck explains
that there is actually a reason for the new design; it's not just to be flashy
or stand out from the other players, though it certainly does that also.


Tuck revealed that his opponents were aware of his nagging neck injury and
would grab his facemask in an attempt to aggravate it further by jerking his
head to the side. Justin got together with the Giants' equipment manager and
created a design that leaves very little space for fingers to grab on to.</p>
<blockquote>


ďWeíre just trying to give people not as much surface to be able to grab my
face maskĒ</p></blockquote>


The design was sent to Schutt Sports and was finished this off-season. There
were concerns that a facemask so large would make the helmet too heavy, which
could affect Tuck's performance. However, Schutt used titanium, a very light
metal, to build the facemask, making the weight a non-issue.</p>


So not only will the new mask eliminate an advantage for his opponents, but
many find it to be stylish and flashy. Tuck admits that other players have
approached him and asked if they could get the same one.</p>
<blockquote>


ďEverybody is like, ĎCan I get that facemask?í No, itís exclusive to me, no
one else can have it. But itís a copycat league in everything people do so I
wouldnít be surprised if there are a few of those floating around before we
play.Ē</p></blockquote>


Hopefully the new mask gets the job done, and keeps Tuck healthy. That way
his play on the field can stand out like his facemask certainly will."</p>http://www.giants101.com/

<u><font size="4">BIG BLUE VIEW</font></u><span id="entry_flag_counts_2011/12/23/2655531/friday-five-with-pat-traina-jets-giants-edition" class="flag-counts"><span class="light"></span> </span><span id="entry_flag_links_2011/12/23/2655531/friday-five-with-pat-traina-jets-giants-edition"></span>

HAKEEM NICKS: BEST WR IN GIANTS' HISTORY? (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/27/3119957/hakeem-nicks-best-nyg-wr-of-all-time)

"Let's see here.<div class="entry-body">


Six-foot-1. Meh, could do better. Just about average.</p>


208 pounds. Meh, could do better. Just about average.</p>


4.53 40-yard dash. Actually not that good. Kind of slow.</p>


He's no Amani Toomer. He's no Plaxico Burress. He's no <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/109584/victor-cruz">Victor
Cruz</a>.</p>


He's the forgotten man in the national media, who are slobbering over Dez Bryant's (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108619/dez-bryant)
"potential" or salivating over Desean Jackson's speed. He's never, ever
mentioned among the top WRs in the game. Hell, he's almost an afterthought when
talking about these WRs anyway.</p>


We've got rookies ahead of him in that blasted NFLN Top 100. It's not Eli Manning (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2235/eli-manning)
that's the Rodney Dangerfield of this New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
team, its this team's number 1 WR: <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71294/hakeem-nicks">Hakeem
Nicks</a>.</p>
<p class="extend-divide"><a name="storyjump"></a>http://cdn1.sbnation.com/images/blog/star-divide.v5e9d7f1.jpg</p>


Let's take a look at Hakeem Nicks' stats for his first three years and
compare them to WRs that are often thought of as "good as", "better than," or my
personal favorite..."have a much higher ceiling than" our superstar.</p>


First, lets look at Hakeem Nicks:</p>


2009 (14 games): 47 rec, 790 yards, 16.8 YPC, 6 TDs</p>


2010 (13 games): 79 rec, 1052 yards, 13.3 YPC, 11 TDs</p>


2011 (15 games): 76 rec, 1192 yards, 15.7 YPC, 7 TDs</p>



Now, a player that is often regarded as one of the top WRs in the game, <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/3003/vincent-jackson">Vincent
Jackson</a> (last 3 healthy years):</p>


2008 (16 games): 59 rec, 1098 yards, 18.6 YPC, 7 TDs</p>


2010 (15 games): 68 rec, 1167 yards, 17.2 YPC, 9 TDs</p>


2011 (16 games): 60 rec, 1106 yards, 18.4 YPC, 9 TDs</p>



Let's take a look, now, at Desean Jackson's first 4 years in the
NFL:</p>


2008 (16 games): 62 rec, 912 yards, 16.6 YPC, 2 TDs</p>


2009 (15 games): 62 rec, 1156 yards, 18.6 YPC, 9 TDs</p>


2010 (14 games): 47 rec, 1056 yards, 22.5 YPC, 6 TDs</p>


2011 (15 games): 58 rec, 961 yards, 16.6 YPC, 4 TDs</p>



<a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71548/jeremy-maclin">Jeremy
Maclin</a> is often thought of as Hakeem Nicks' main rival:</p>


2009 (15 games): 56 rec, 773 yards, 13.8 YPC, 4 TDs</p>


2010 (16 games): 70 rec, 964 yards, 13.8 YPC, 10 TDs</p>


2011 (13 games): 63 rec, 859 yards, 13.6 YPC, 5 TDs</p>



And now my favorite, Dez Bryant, ye of greater fame but lesser
production:</p>


2010 (12 games): 45 rec, 561 yards, 12.5 YPC, 6 TDs</p>


2011 (15 games): 63 rec, 928 yards, 14.7 YPC, 9 TDs</p>



As you can see, just based on the raw stats here, Nicks is awfully close to
VJax. If he stays healthy, his numbers look pretty much identical. He's
outplayed Desean Jackson last year, and their career stats look pretty
comparable. Nicks ends up beating out Maclin every year and destroys Bryant as
well. So much for that.</p>


But those are just raw stats. Volume stats, if you want to be fair about it.
Take a look at this great fanpost here by AntonioNickerson, a Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys) fan.</p>


<a href="http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/3/27/2900740/dezs-production-vs-all-first-round-picks-since-05-through-2-years" target="_blank">Dez's Production vs All 1st Round Picks Since 2005 Through First
Two Years</a></p>


It was intended as a post for Dez Bryant, but it proves Nicks' brilliance
just a bit more. It compares production of 1st round WRs through 2005 in their
first two years. Hakeem Nicks was among the top performers in all categories,
but what really took me by surprise that Nicks has led those WRs in TDs per
game and Yards per game. And yes, this list includes the current top WR in
the league, <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/19053/calvin-johnson">Calvin
Johnson</a>.</p>


FootballOutsiders, which has its own methods of determining success via their
DYAR stat, ranked Nicks as the 6th best WR in the league in 2010, and 9th in
2011. You can find their stats and methodology here:
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr</p>


Taking a closer look into last year's numbers, what made what Nicks did so
impressive is when he produced his plays. When the Giants were behind, an
astonishing 74.2% of his catches went for 1st downs. When behind, he had
13 plays of 20+ yards and 3 of 40+. </p>


He did his best work in the 4th quarter, with 4 TDs (more than any other
quarter) and 7 catches of 20+ yards (more than any other quarter). We
credit Eli Manning for being incredibly clutch. He can't do it alone.</p>


On top of that, Nicks is consistent. In the past two years, he's had
only 6 games of less than 50 yards. That's it. For the most part, he's
always shown up to play, and almost always produces.</p>


Finally, I'd be remiss without talking about Nicks' performance in the
playoffs. Just take a look at this:</p>


vs ATL: 6 rec, 115 yards, 2 TDs</p>


vs GB: 7 rec, 165 yards, 2 TDs</p>


vs SF: 5 rec, 55 yards, 0 TDs</p>


vs NE: 10 rec, 109 yards, 0 TDs</p>


444 yards (2nd most in NFL playoff history - behind only the great <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1741/larry-fitzgerald">Larry
Fitzgerald</a>). 4 TDs. 3 out 4 games surpassing 100 yards (and the one game he
didn't he was injured early in the game).</p>


Everybody remembers Mario Manningham's catch from the Superbowl, but Nicks
had the quietest 100 yard game in recent memory. Nicks is a statistical monster,
even if nobody realizes it. It's not easy to be a 1200 yard WR in this league,
yet Nicks achieved just that last year (well almost, but we can round up 8
yards!).</p>


Okay, so we looked at the statistical aspect of Nicks' game. Let's look at
some games of his (the ones available on YouTube by the very great resource
NYGiantsCentral)</p>


I've described what I look for in a WR in this fanpost about Rueben Randle,
right here:</p>


<a href="http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/9/3075289/buttery-smooth-a-rueben-randle-film-study">Rueben
Randle and WR Film Study</a></p>


Let's take that methodology and look at some plays and why I think Nicks is
just swell.</p>



Hakeem Nicks vs Cardinals (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/arizona-cardinals) (2011)
(via NYGiantsCentral (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PNDcd2qvJiI))</p>


So what we'll do here is just take a small tour of a couple games of Nicks,
starting with a very recent example in the Arizona desert. Forward to about
0:50. A small example of his adjustment skills. He will dive, jump, muscle, and
squeeze his way to any ball within his catch radius. In this one, he's battling
a contested ball with the Cardinal corner, and has the wherewithal to stretch
out and jump for the catch.</p>


Now forward to 1:20, for one of his favorite plays, the WR bubble screen.
He's extremely slippery, and extremely strong. These plays are almost always at
least 7-8 yard gainers for that reason, he can make moves in that limited tunnel
and have the strength to fight off the first one or two guys that come after
him.</p>


3:36. He's got one of these plays every game that make you say "Ughhh.
Unbelievable!" but not in the Al Michaels/Chris Collinsworth way. Just a thing
of absolute beauty and power. Completely contested play, he had no business
catching that ball, nor staying on his feet. That is what makes Hakeem Nicks so
special. That combination of his adjustment to the ball, his physicality at the
point of the catch, his strength to maintain the catch, and his balance to stay
up and get extra yardage.</p>




Hakeem Nicks vs Dallas (2010) (via NYGiantsCentral (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6vGNBWCp71A))</p>


First off, let me be the first to say I got really pissed off when Troy
Aikman said that Nicks is the Giants' version of Dez Bryant. No. No. NO. Dez
Bryant can only hope to be what Hakeem Nicks already is. He starts off this
video with a quick snapshot as to why he is a top WR.</p>


Let me put it bluntly, Hakeem Nicks' blend of route running and body
control is virtually unmatched by anybody else in this league. The only two
players I'd put above him in this regard are Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2728/andre-johnson),
both of whom are not human in their adjustment to the ball as well as their
precision route running. Nicks showed that body control in this play. He's not
the biggest WR at 6'1, 208, but he plays like he's 6'4 230. He starts off with a
stutter move, quick slant on the outside, and the back shoulder throw by Eli is
thrown before Nicks even turns around. He times it perfectly, gets elevation,
and blocks out the corner for a perfectly indefensible pitch and catch.</p>


The very next play in the video shows how he gets separation with his route
running. He's not the fastest guy on the field, but he's got what I call "hidden
speed." His cuts are based on timing, and they are so precise that his
connection with Eli allows him to catch the ball as soon as he breaks out of
cut, without having to wait. We see that here.</p>


Don't even get me started on his strength while catching the ball. He's about
as strong at the point of the catch as any WR I've ever seen. If its in his
mitts, chances are he's going to hold on to the ball. We see that strength again
at 2:05. Just so difficult to bring down during and after the catch.</p>


Please watch 2:37 of this video now. No explanation needed. Seriously,
just go watch it. Want to talk about catch radius? Yeah.</p>


The biggest problem with Hakeem comes at around 2:50. He'll have those easy
drops sometimes. Not too many times, but just lapses in concentration. He's
nowhere close to Roddy White (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1192/roddy-white) or
<a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2646/braylon-edwards">Braylon
Edwards</a> in that respect, but just something to improve on.</p>


As for the last play in the video, it didn't count because of a holding (much
to the glee of our announcers no doubt), but Nicks rolls up everything that
we've been talking about right there.</p>




Hakeem Nicks vs Texans (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/houston-texans) (2010) (via
NYGiantsCentral (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cUn_jB0XrZU))</p>


Here's a game versus the Texans. Go on over to the 2nd play or so. Another
beautiful example how he strong enough to post up on the defender (in this case,
1st rounder <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/108689/kareem-jackson">Kareem
Jackson</a>) and take him out of the play.</p>


Move on over to 1:08, and by now I think the Texans realized that
they're going up against cheatcode. His hands are SO FREAKING BIG. Again, we see
that adjustment to the ball, leap up, recover, maintain balance, take a great
angle to the sideline, use a little wiggle, and get a massive gain. That just
isn't fair. He plucks the ball from the air at its highest point almost like a
vacuum.</p>


Oh c'mon now. 1:25. Just stop it, Hakeem, you're scaring the
children.</p>


Do you guys want one more? One more? Aw, why not.</p>



Hakeem Nicks vs Green Bay (2011) (via NYGiantsCentral (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBkNPtBS5S8))</p>


0:21 - Once again shows his ability to separate when he NEEDS to
separate. Separation doesn't mean maintaining a 5 yard cushion against the DB.
It means when its time to catch the ball, your arms and the ball are away from
the defender. Nicks' physicality provides a great way to create separation.
Though he's sneaky fast, its his great hands and strength that got him with this
one. Unfortunately he didn't stay inbounds, but that was amazing.</p>


What also makes Hakeem so dangerous is that not only is he a great possession
receiver, but he can be an equal powerful deep threat. He tracks the ball in the
air as well as anyone. We see that at 1:00. We also see that strength to hold on
to the ball once it lands in his hands.</p>


And of course, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention 2:20. Incredible
tracking of the ball, great hands, amazing body control.</p>


At this point, I sound like a broken clock. But hell, it works. You don't
always need speed to separate. You need those adjustment skills, that strength,
that body control. That's uncoachable.</p>


I'm looking to see Hakeem (with more coverage rolled over to Victor Cruz) to
really light this league on fire this year. 1300+ yards with double digit
touchdowns should be attainable for him if he can stay healthy. Maybe this year
is the year he finally gets his respect."</p></div>

GIANTS' VICTOR CRUZ "CAN'T WAIT FOR FOOTBALL SEASON" (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/27/3121143/new-york-giants-victor-cruz-cant-wait-for-football-season)

"I came across some interesting comments today from New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
wide receiver Victor Cruz (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/109584/victor-cruz)
during an appearance at a football camp. [via Pro Football Tal (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/26/cruz-see-football-season-as-a-way-to-relax/)k]
<div class="entry-body">


"I can't wait for football
season to come around, so I can kind of relax and focus on football," Cruz told the Virginian-Pilot (http://hamptonroads.com/2012/06/new-york-giants%E2%80%99-cruz-hit-wm-football-camp).</p>


This is the kind of thing you have to worry about with Cruz, whose 1,536
yards set a single-season franchise receiving record last season, and whose
Salsa dancing touchdown celebrations made him a beloved figure among Giants
fans.</p>


Even though Cruz also said "I want to stay the same person as I was when I
was walking the streets of Patterson. Not let this get to my head, just remain
myself, and all the good things will continue to happen' you have to worry about
how well a 25-year-old who has never had this kind of spotlight handles the
glare and all of the outside commitments (which were listed by PFT) and prepares
properly for the upcoming season.</p>


Little lapses in concentration or small differences in physical conditioning
can make a huge difference at the highest levels of any sport. Cruz seems to
have kept everything in perspective, but only time will truly tell us how well
he handles his success."</p>2007 GIANTS VS. 2011 GIANTS: COMPARING SUPER BOWL CHAMPS - LINEBACKERS (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/27/3111202/2007-giants-vs-2011-giants-comparing-super-bowl-champs-linebackers)

"As we continue our position-by-position comparison of the 2007 and 2011 <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants">New
York Giants</a> Super Bowl-winning teams we come to the linebacker position.<div class="entry-body">


This is an interesting comparison, showing defenses that were vastly
different. The '07 Giants had <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2245/antonio-pierce">Antonio
Pierce</a>, <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2385/kawika-mitchell">Kawika
Mitchell</a> and <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2229/mathias-kiwanuka">Mathias
Kiwanuka</a> as every-down linebackers, with Reggie Torbor (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2259/reggie-torbor)
seeing some action. The 2011 Giants had Michael Boley (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1115/michael-boley)
and Kiwanuka, but used a plethora of other linebackers, especially in the
middle.</p>


Here is a look at the stats.</p>


2007 Regular Season</p>


Antonio Pierce, MLB -- 103 tackles, 1 sack, 1 interception, 8 passes
defensed, 1 forced fumble
Mathias Kiwanuka, OLB -- 46 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 4
passes defensed, 1 forced fumble
Kawika Mitchell, OLB -- 76 tackles, 3.5
sacks, 1 interception, 4 passes defensed, 2 forced fumbles
Reggie Torbor, OLB
-- 39 tackles, 1 sack, 1 pass defensed</p>


2011 Regular Season</p>


Mathias Kiwanuka, OLB -- 85 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 1 interception, 2 passes
defensed, 1 forced fumble
Michael Boley, OLB -- 94 tackles, 1 sack, 3 passes
defensed, 1 forced fumble
<a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/131487/jacquian-williams">Jacquian
Williams</a>, OLB -- 71 tackles, 1 sacks, 5 passes defensed, 1 forced
fumble
<a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2207/chase-blackburn">Chase
Blackburn</a>, MLB (5 games) -- 28 tackles, 1 interception, 2 passes
defensed
Greg Jones, MLB -- 27 tackles</p>
<p class="extend-divide"><a name="storyjump"></a>http://cdn1.sbnation.com/images/blog/star-divide.v5e9d7f1.jpg</p>


I think it's pretty clear that the '07 Giants had the better linebacking
group, mostly because Pierce was superior to anyone the Giants played in the
middle in 2011. Greg Jones and <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/131182/mark-herzlich">Mark
Herzlich</a> were young players trying to find their way in the NFL, and Chase
Blackburn did a nice job but he will never be the player Pierce was at his
best.</p>


Boley vs. Mitchell is probably a wash, and Kiwanuka/Torbor is probably about
the same as Kiwanuka/Williams.</p>


Your thoughts, Giants fans?"</p></div>
</div>##

NY GIANTS' NEWS AND NOTES: DOG DAYS HUMP EDITION (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/6/27/3120327/new-york-giants-news-and-notes-dog-days-hump-day-edition)

"Good morning fellow Giants fans. In case you hadn't noticed, it's hot
outside. I don't think it matters where you live right now, the temperature has
approached "really freaking hot," and it's not even July. The dog days are here
early, and while that usually means football is around the corner, this means we
have to wait a little longer while enduring the heat. But hey, it's hump day,
and that means we should look at our Hump Day Calendar--just ten weeks until the
start of the 2012 NFL season. TEN WEEKS. Training camp starts in a month. So
sink your teeth into that though while you sweat through your summer. Oh yeah,
it's notebook time too......<div class="entry-body">


<a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/40354/fantasy-week-the-giants-rookies">Fantasy
week: The Giants' rookies - NFC East Blog - ESPN</a>
As fantasy week
rolls along here on the NFC East blog, we have a couple of video roundtable
clips from our ESPN fantasy experts that deal with rookies. Specifically, they
are about rookie wide receivers and rookie running backs, and as you might
expect there are New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)
players featured prominently in both of them. </p>


This article talks about Rueben Randle being a Hakeem Nicks (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/71294/hakeem-nicks)
clone. That has to strike fear in the Eagles (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/philadelphia-eagles) and
Cowboys (and Niners and Patriots). Well, if all the hype is justified.</p>


<a href="http://blogs.bettor.com/Can-New-York-Giants-defend-their-Super-Bowl-title-in-the-2012-season-Part-I-a165583">Can
New York Giants defend their Super Bowl title in the 2012 season? (Part I) |
bettor.com</a>
When the New York Giants had started their 2011
National Football League (NFL) season campaign, no one knew how far they would
go. They eventually won the Super Bowl XLVI after defeating the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots">New England
Patriots</a> in the NFL title game. That is an old story now and the challenge
in front of them is to retain the title, which is even tougher than winning it
in the first place. In order to determine Giantsí chances in the upcoming
season, it is essential to have a brief look at their last seasonís
performance.</p>


<a href="http://insidefootball.com/blog/archives/4615#more-4615">Summertime Blog
Bits: Linebacker Jacquian Williams | Train-a Thought</a>
In this
installment of Summertime Blog Bits, we hear from linebacker <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/131487/jacquian-williams">Jacquian
Williams</a>.</p>
<p class="extend-divide"><a name="storyjump"></a>http://cdn1.sbnation.com/images/blog/star-divide.v5e9d7f1.jpg</p>


<a href="http://hamptonroads.com/2012/06/new-york-giants%E2%80%99-cruz-hit-wm-football-camp">New
York Giantsí Cruz is a hit at W&amp;M football camp | HamptonRoads.com |
PilotOnline.com</a>
In the middle of his whirlwind year, at the end of
a frenetic few days, Victor Cruz (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/109584/victor-cruz)
has some R and R in sight. "I can't wait for football season to come around,"
the New York Giants pass-catching star said Tuesday at William and Mary's youth
camp, "so I can kind of relax and focus on football." It's come to this - and
so, so suddenly - for the formerly overlooked and underappreciated Cruz. One
prolific, Super Bowl-winning, salsa-dancing season springs from nowhere, and
Cruz's attention splits like lightning shreds a tree.</p>


<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-giants-chris-canty-surgically-repaied-knee-better-training-camp-article-1.1102873">NY
Giantsí Chris Canty says his surgically repaired knee is better and should be in
training camp - NY Daily News</a>
Defensive tackle Chris Canty (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/3394/chris-canty), who
did not participate in the Giantsí offseason training program because he was
recovering from knee surgery, says his rehab has him on track to return in time
for training camp next month.</p>


<a href="http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/06/giants_summer_questionnaire_ki.html">Giants
summer questionnaire: Kicker Lawrence Tynes | NJ.com</a>
Victor Cruz
has a book coming out next month. That news surprised no one. But what would you
say if I told you kicker <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2407/lawrence-tynes">Lawrence
Tynes</a> is working on a book as well?</p>


It's called "My Foot Still Hurts from Kicking that Game-Winner in Frigid
Green Bay in 2008."</p>


<a href="http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20120625006150/en">Time
Warner Cable Enters Partnership with New York Giant Victor Cruz | EON: Enhanced
Online News</a>
Time Warner Cable announced today that it has
partnered with Victor Cruz, New York Giants wide receiver and Super Bowl champ,
to bolster its Enjoy Sports Better initiative that helps customers enjoy the
sports and teams they love even more.</p>


<a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/06/new-era-releases-nfl-sideline-caps-for-2012/1#.T-rjXXLAMcs">New
Era releases NFL sideline caps for 2012</a>
New Era released it's
initial foray into the world of NFL headgear today, showing off the sideline
caps which will be worn in 2012. In addition to caps, New Era is also providing
knits, headbands, and its signature 59FIFTY's. The New York Giants will be the
first team to trot out the headgear when they take on the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/dallas-cowboys)
September 5. You can visit the New Era Facebook page to get a look at the rest
of the league."</p></div>http://www.bigblueview.com/section/news



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SUMMERTIME BLOG BITS: RB/FB JOE MARTINEK (http://insidefootball.com/blog/archives/4618)

"Former Rutgers fullback Joe Martinek will look to carve
out a roster spot for himself this summer, most likely as more of a running
back, though heíll continue to see work at fullback behind starter Henry
Hynoski. Martinek is todayís featured player. <span id="more-4618"></span>


Q: Practices havenít really been at game speed, so with that said,
how have you been managing with taking the proper angles when asked to block
guys from the fullback position?
A: Itís fine. I did it last year.
Yes, itís a different offense and different speed, but everythingís been going
fine and I think Iíve done well.</p>


Q. Whee do you feel your progress is at this point?
A. I
feel like Iím a little ahead of where Iíd like to be. Iím doing what I want to
do and Iím progressing every day in terms of knowing more. Everything is
starting to become second nature and thatís what I want in the end, things to
become second nature. I want to get to the point where when I hear a play or see
something, I donít need to think; Iíll know exactly what to do. Iím almost to
that point.</p>


Q. Coach Ingram always likes to say that a fullback who knows the
other assignments on the offense is going to be in a great position to clean up
breakdowns. Are you at that point yet or have you been focusing on fine-tuning
your responsibilities?
A. That comes in with everything and with
time. I am not where I want to be yet, but I am better than I was yesterday.</p>


Q. Whatís your plan for the next few weeks until training
camp?
A. Mentally Iím going to keep working until camp. Physically
Iíll probably take a week or a couple days off and then probably commute to
Rutgers everyday until camp starts. I was thinking of driving down there, or my
trainer is in Pearl River, NY. I havenít really decided yet."</p>http://www.insidefootball.com/



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ELI MANNING MORE CLUTCH THAT ROMO, SAYS CANTY (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a291b3/article/eli-manning-more-clutch-than-tony-romo-says-canty)

"Keep in mind that we're hearing this from a member of the New York Giants (/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG), but Chris Canty believes his quarterback, Eli Manning (/players/elimanning/profile?id=MAN473170), has
left Tony Romo (/players/tonyromo/profile?id=ROM787981) in the
dust.


Canty told ESPN Radio this week that Manning "absolutely" was the guy you
want in the huddle when the bullets fly. It's worth mentioning because Canty
spent the early part of his career in Dallas as Romo's teammate.</p>


</p><div id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821090765_614" class="articleText">

"Tony Romo is a terrific quarterback, can't take that away from him.
Statistically he's a top five quarterback," Canty said, via SBNation.com (http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-york-giants/2012/6/26/3119048/new-york-giants-chris-canty-eli-manning-nfl-network-top-100-tony-romo-tim-tebow-new-york-jets). "Eli's ability to elevate his
game and elevate the play of all the guys around him in the most crucial
situations in the football game I believe is the difference. That's what makes
him a championship quarterback."</p>


Canty also took issue with NFL Network's "The Top 100: Players of 2012,"
which ranked Manning at No. 31: "I just don't understand that," Canty said. "For
goodness sake, just look at the resume, look at what he's been able to do. He's
an elite football player, and I think it's time people recognized that."</p>


Canty doesn't need to sell people on the "elite" argument, not for Manning.
Quarterbacks with two Super Bowl titles enter that conversation without much
trouble.</p>


Romo -- <a id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821090765_957" href="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d82a27395">despite Brett
Favre's backing</a> -- faces a different challenge. As Canty points out, Romo's
numbers aren't the issue. With just one playoff win, he <a id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821090765_958" href="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d82a0c6d0">remains a
polarizing figure</a>."</p></div>JASON PIERRE-PAUL IN MOLD OF REGGIE WHITE, SAYS CANTY (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a28a57/article/jason-pierrepaul-in-mold-of-reggie-white-canty-says)

"The New York Giants (/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG)
defensive end Chris Canty played with a collection of talented defensive lineman
during his first four seasons with the Dallas Cowboys (/teams/dallascowboys/profile?team=DAL).
However, his current team might have the best line in football.
<p id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821219484_914">When asked to name the most versatile end in
the game today, Canty came clean, saying the Cowboys' DeMarcus Ware (/players/demarcusware/profile?id=WAR350675)
has nothing on the Giants' Jason Pierre-Paul (/players/jasonpierre-paul/profile?id=PIE587019).</p>


</p><div id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821219484_611" class="articleText">

"To me, it is no question in my mind," Canty told ESPN New York Radio (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/14843/canty-jpp-reminds-me-of-reggie-white) on Tuesday. "JPP's
ability to play any position along the defensive front is what makes him
tremendously special. He can play the shade, the two-technique, the
three-technique ... he can do it all ... anything you want him to do along the
defensive front, he can do."</p>


Pressed to find JPP's equal, Canty dialed up the name of a legend.</p>


"There is really nobody in the league right now that you can compare him to,"
Canty said. "The only person that kind of sticks out where you can compare him
to -- and I can't believe I am saying this -- but he reminds me a lot of Reggie
White. His ability to play all those different positions and to impact the
football game the way he does, he is an unbelievable talent."</p>


The Ware comparison is fair, but Reggie White is heady territory. It's early
to toss that name around. The Hall of Fame lineman transformed the <a id="yui_3_5_0_1_1340821219484_649" href="/teams/philadelphiaeagles/profile?team=PHI">Philadelphia
Eagles</a> during his time there, and you can argue the Green Bay Packers (/teams/greenbaypackers/profile?team=GB) wouldn't have won Super Bowl XXXI without him.
We haven't seen anyone White's equal since, but JPP is an intriguing candidate.
We felt he was ranked too low on NFL Network's "Top 100: Players of 2012," (http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d82a006a5)
especially after what he did for the Giants down the stretch last season. Canty
certainly agrees."</p></div>
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JOHN MARA REMINISCES ABOUT PICKING ELI OVER BEN (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/14826/mara-reminisces-about-picking-eli-over-ben)

"John Mara remembers the Giants organization being torn on who
to take days before the 2004 NFL Draft.

Eli Manning
or Ben Roethlisberger?

We all know what has happened
since. But it is always fun to look back and Mara fondly reminisced about
trading for Manning on WFAN radio on Tuesday.

"We went right to the last
day or two before the draft trying to decide between Eli and Ben Roethlisberger,
who obviously has been a great NFL quarterback as well," Mara said. "They both
have been brilliant. Really, the decision came down to one guy played in the
SEC, the best conference in the country, and the other guy played at Miami of
Ohio against obviously lesser competition."

"Also, [Manning] was on a
team at Ole Miss that didn't have a tremendous amount of talent and he kind of
carried that team on his shoulder," Mara added. "We felt he was the better pick
for us, but obviously either way they both ended up being great players."


Mara also recounted how his father, Wellington Mara,
wasn't keen on paying such a high price to get Manning, who was taken first
overall by the Chargers. Wellington Mara had a soft spot for Kerry
Collins but the Giants ended up trading Philip Rivers
(taken fourth overall), their 2004 third-round pick and 2005 first and
fifth-round picks.

"It was not an easy decision," Mara said. "It was one
that even my father was against initially because he had such a strong feeling
for Kerry Collins, who had played so well for us and kind of resurrected his
career. I just felt like and Ernie Accorsi felt strongly also
that this guy had a rare talent and was worth taking a chance on."

Mara
admits he had some doubts early on when Manning struggled.

"I will tell
you there were times where I had some doubts," the Giants president and CEO
said. "I can remember so vividly the first minicamp practice that Eli was here
for. He just had a terrible day throwing the ball in a windy practice field out
here. It was going all over the place and he was surrounded by media and
cameras."

"I remember thinking to myself, I hope it gets better than
this," Mara added. "Because we just gave up half the franchise to get this guy
and he is throwing the ball all over the place."

Mara chuckled as he
recounted that. It's fun for the Giants to look back on everything seeing how it
all turned out.

"It really wasnít until the second half of the '04
season when he got into the games [and] he really struggled at first," Mara
said. "And then we had that final game of the '04 season when we beat Dallas at
home and he takes us down the field at the end of the game to win and that just
sort of kicked off his career for us."

"He certainly has had some ups
and downs since then," Mara added. "But I will take my chances with the ball in
his hand at the end the game every day."




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NFLPA ASKS LEAGUE TO INVESTIGATE PROTRACTED SAINTS-BREES NEGOTIATIONS (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19427468/nfl-players-union-asks-league-to-investigate-protracted-brees-negotiations)


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BERMAN TO CALL ONE "MNF" GAME (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/06/27/berman-to-call-week-one-mnf-game)
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G-Men Surg.
06-27-2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks RF!

BigBlue1971
06-27-2012, 01:05 PM
thanks Roanoke!</P>


Hynoski is gonna have a big year i feel! he certainly showcased some offensive potentialtowards the end of last year.</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#0000ff size=4>Go Giants!</FONT></P>

Jiffy Jeff
06-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Thanks RF. I like Hynoski's "throwing the hammer down" statement.

RoanokeFan
06-27-2012, 03:12 PM
Thanks RF. I like Hynoski's "throwing the hammer down" statement.

[Y] He did a good job as an undrafted rookie. He's a year wiser.....

RoanokeFan
06-27-2012, 03:31 PM
Thanks RF!

[B]

Captain Chaos
06-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Got to love the stories about Manning. I lived in San Diego unitl very recently. I used to get a ton of grief from their fans. That has stopped and now they are all wondering if Rivers is the right guy. Got to love it!

RoanokeFan
06-27-2012, 07:47 PM
Got to love the stories about Manning. I lived in San Diego unitl very recently. I used to get a ton of grief from their fans. That has stopped and now they are all wondering if Rivers is the right guy. Got to love it!

Proving it's a marathon lol

BlueBlitzer
06-27-2012, 09:29 PM
Wellington Mara may have liked KC, but during one of the last games prior to drafting Eli. He leaned over and told EA " We've got to put a better product on the field than this " Message recieved. Ea went into total make over mode. From FA to the Draft, and the Coaching staff. Which we all know didn't stop culminating until JR's first draft, and ultimately our 3rd SB. Now as back then, Giant ownership need only voice their concern. Knowing the Giants Brain Trust will do the rest.

RoanokeFan
06-27-2012, 09:50 PM
Wellington Mara may have liked KC, but during one of the last games prior to drafting Eli. He leaned over and told EA " We've got to put a better product on the field than this " Message recieved. Ea went into total make over mode. From FA to the Draft, and the Coaching staff. Which we all know didn't stop culminating until JR's first draft, and ultimately our 3rd SB. Now as back then, Giant ownership need only voice their concern. Knowing the Giants Brain Trust will do the rest.

Any chance you have a link for that Wellington Mara quote?

BlueBlitzer
06-27-2012, 10:11 PM
Wellington Mara may have liked KC, but during one of the last games prior to drafting Eli. He leaned over and told EA " We've got to put a better product on the field than this " Message received. Ea went into total make over mode. From FA to the Draft, and the Coaching staff. Which we all know didn't stop culminating until JR s first draft, and ultimately our 3rd SB. Now as back then, Giant ownership need only voice their concern. Knowing the Giants Brain Trust will do the rest.

Any chance you have a link for that Wellington Mara quote?


No I wish I did. I just remembering reading about it, and thinking about how much respect Wellington wielded.

RoanokeFan
06-27-2012, 10:14 PM
Wellington Mara may have liked KC, but during one of the last games prior to drafting Eli. He leaned over and told EA " We've got to put a better product on the field than this " Message received. Ea went into total make over mode. From FA to the Draft, and the Coaching staff. Which we all know didn't stop culminating until JR s first draft, and ultimately our 3rd SB. Now as back then, Giant ownership need only voice their concern. Knowing the Giants Brain Trust will do the rest.

Any chance you have a link for that Wellington Mara quote?


No I wish I did. I just remembering reading about it, and thinking about how much respect Wellington wielded.

He was a very unique individual/owner

fourth&forever
06-27-2012, 11:41 PM
silk purse from a sow's ear. Outstanding RF!