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bigjeep
07-10-2012, 12:32 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

burier
07-10-2012, 12:33 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

There will be a line.

b_ELI_eve
07-10-2012, 12:42 PM
Until the defense gets dialed in, I can see lots of fans complaining about Fewell.

BeatYale
07-10-2012, 01:01 PM
I think a troll will start the fire first with a premature "we're doomed" type topic and then the fans who are on the brink will be grateful it wasn't them starting it - but will participate in it, co-signing on the negative statements etc. etc.

So who's the most active troll on here besides Harooni?

Rudyy
07-10-2012, 01:06 PM
It's going to be the "Here we go again" threads, started by anybody who says things like "We are a 9-7 team who barely made the playoffs."

Toadofsteel
07-10-2012, 01:46 PM
Until the defense gets dialed in, I can see lots of fans complaining about Fewell.

This. I want to see some opposing QB's eating dirt in 2012. I still don't really like the guy. I give him a bit of leeway because he did orchestrate that SB winning playoff run, but I don't like his style of running defenses and don't believe it works well with the personnel we have.

Oh and by the way, I hereby claim "First" on the fan crack list...

DemandedAce
07-10-2012, 01:47 PM
It's gonna be Roanoke. He's too sane, calm, and sensible.





His time is neigh!

GMENAGAIN
07-10-2012, 02:07 PM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . .

jax5338
07-10-2012, 02:10 PM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . .

+1

first name that came to mind when i read the OP. doesn't he make one like every season?

also think maybe TuckYou could be the leader of the doomsday squad.

VegasGmen
07-10-2012, 02:22 PM
Giggles!

gmen46
07-10-2012, 02:25 PM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . .

Agh, you beat me to it.

Gumby is a strong contender, though.

gumby742
07-10-2012, 02:29 PM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . . Agh, you beat me to it. Gumby is a strong contender, though.</P>


I'll at least wait until the end of next season. But not to trash him, but merely to say that his performance is still inconsistent. Not bad, but inconsistent.</P>

buddy33
07-10-2012, 02:31 PM
Lol. What did I say that was so bad?

jjj45
07-10-2012, 02:36 PM
OK, since the SB win, <u>our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family</u>. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.You might want to take a gander on the "jaws top 5" thread. Or any Eli thread for that matter lol.

njersey
07-10-2012, 04:05 PM
Crack is bad for you.

slipknottin
07-10-2012, 04:06 PM
Deez

gmen0820
07-10-2012, 04:23 PM
RoanokeFan as usual....

/sarcasm

THE_New_York_Giants
07-10-2012, 04:46 PM
all of them but myself , Tuckyou, Fbomb, Roanokefan, and 2 or 3 others will crack. Read the Superbowl play by play thread and you'll see what I mean. Everyone else is flipping a deuce whilest we 5 were like "it's only halftime..." As usual, Gumby and Buddy333 or something will go first. Harooni I can never tell.

THE_New_York_Giants
07-10-2012, 04:50 PM
Giggles!

I miss that son of a b****.. he was sooo f***ing funny

JMFP2
07-10-2012, 04:54 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

Just scroll back to last season....the same dudes will be the first to flip their cheese.

Diamondring
07-10-2012, 05:12 PM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

THE_New_York_Giants
07-10-2012, 05:15 PM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well. They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game. They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they? They were 9-7. You could have died today... but you didn't.

gumby742
07-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Giggles!

I miss that son of a b****.. he was sooo f***ing funny
</P>


&lt;Giggles Voice&gt;</P>


"I was only trying to help."</P>


Funniest thing though is when he took the screen name "Mod G" and wrote on his Giggles account: "You better watch it. The Mods have my back."</P>


Best poster ever.</P>

Diamondring
07-10-2012, 05:23 PM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well.* They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game.* They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they?* They were 9-7.* You could have died today... but you didn't.*
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

Ntegrase96
07-10-2012, 06:39 PM
Amani Toomer

THE_New_York_Giants
07-10-2012, 07:12 PM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well. They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game. They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they? They were 9-7. You could have died today... but you didn't.
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

They could have gone 0-16... or 16-0. Your argument is stupid. They went 9-7. Your mother could have aborted you.. but she didnt... We can play this could have should have game all day long.

bLuereverie
07-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Where's gigs?

On another note, that Giants lawn gnome better be encased deep in concrete right now.

Diamondring
07-10-2012, 11:08 PM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well.* They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game.* They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they?* They were 9-7.* You could have died today... but you didn't.*
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

They could have gone 0-16...* or 16-0.* Your argument is stupid.* They went 9-7.* Your mother could have aborted you.. but she didnt...* We can play this could have should have game all day long.
Hey, how about using your head. You said my mother could have aborted me right? Well why even say that in the first place since the same thing applies to you? Both of our mothers could have aborted so why even say my mother could have aborted me?

Now I think that you are the one who started this. I said nothing about people could have died, you came at me with it and I have said the same thing wich should be obvious right? Now you are offended and talk about my mother could have aborted me like there is no way the same thing could apply to you. Well if my mother could have aborted me then the same thing applies to you right? Lets stop the arguement cause it will not make any sense and it will go nowhere.

FearNYGiants
07-11-2012, 12:09 AM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well.* They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game.* They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they?* They were 9-7.* You could have died today... but you didn't.*
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

They could have gone 0-16...* or 16-0.* Your argument is stupid.* They went 9-7.* Your mother could have aborted you.. but she didnt...* We can play this could have should have game all day long.

..

fourth&forever
07-11-2012, 12:21 AM
Lol. What did I say that was so bad?
nothing yet. give yourself a chance. season hasn't even started.

THE_New_York_Giants
07-11-2012, 12:56 AM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well. They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game. They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they? They were 9-7. You could have died today... but you didn't.
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

They could have gone 0-16... or 16-0. Your argument is stupid. They went 9-7. Your mother could have aborted you.. but she didnt... We can play this could have should have game all day long.
Hey, how about using your head. You said my mother could have aborted me right? Well why even say that in the first place since the same thing applies to you? Both of our mothers could have aborted so why even say my mother could have aborted me?

Now I think that you are the one who started this. I said nothing about people could have died, you came at me with it and I have said the same thing wich should be obvious right? Now you are offended and talk about my mother could have aborted me like there is no way the same thing could apply to you. Well if my mother could have aborted me then the same thing applies to you right? Lets stop the arguement cause it will not make any sense and it will go nowhere.
I have never gotten offended by someone on the internet. I am instigate for sure... but I don't get offended. It doesn't matter what your could have, would have, should have statement was about. Those statements all belong to idiots. I simply made an equally idiotic statement.

My mother could have aborted me for sure mate.. but she didnt. The Giants could have gotten another record.. but they didn't. The point of the argument is could have, would have, should have arguments are the stupidest arguments to make. "They could have not won" "They did" "They shouldn't have invaded Iraq" "they did". It's pointless to even discuss it.

Diamondring
07-11-2012, 01:20 AM
Hey, I know the Giants won the Superbowl and was really good in the playoffs but Giants were 9 and 7 and could have been 8 and 8 or even 7 and 9 so this thread shouldn't have been made anyways cause the posters who did crack had a reason to.

They could have easily been 12-4 as well.* They could have won the Seahawks game, the 49ers game, and the Packers game.* They also could have won the Eagle game making them 13-3... but they weren't were they?* They were 9-7.* You could have died today... but you didn't.*
Well today is still here so there is a chance I could still die and you to so why even go there? Yet if the Giants could have easily been 12 and 4, then you might as well say they could easily be 4 and 12 as well.

They could have gone 0-16...* or 16-0.* Your argument is stupid.* They went 9-7.* Your mother could have aborted you.. but she didnt...* We can play this could have should have game all day long.
Hey, how about using your head. You said my mother could have aborted me right? Well why even say that in the first place since the same thing applies to you? Both of our mothers could have aborted so why even say my mother could have aborted me?

Now I think that you are the one who started this. I said nothing about people could have died, you came at me with it and I have said the same thing wich should be obvious right? Now you are offended and talk about my mother could have aborted me like there is no way the same thing could apply to you. Well if my mother could have aborted me then the same thing applies to you right? Lets stop the arguement cause it will not make any sense and it will go nowhere.
I have never gotten offended by someone on the internet.* I am instigate for sure... but I don't get offended.* It doesn't matter what your could have, would have, should have statement was about.* Those statements all belong to idiots.* I simply made an equally idiotic statement.*

My mother could have aborted me for sure mate.. but she didnt.* The Giants could have gotten another record.. but they didn't.* The point of the argument is could have, would have, should have arguments are the stupidest arguments to make.* "They could have not won"* "They did"* "They shouldn't have invaded Iraq"* "they did".* It's pointless to even discuss it.*
Look, you need to use your head again. The post talks about who will crack like it will be a bad thing but if you look at the record, the guys who suppose to crack could have been righ as well so why make the thread?

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jakegibbs
07-11-2012, 07:22 AM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

Not so fast......Sometimes negatives turn into positives. Seemed to turn their season around last year after the 2nd Redskin loss that put them 7-7. The measage board here had them done, finished, over, kaput, etc...

I think the players might have logged on this message board & read all the negatives said about them & had a little meeting & said enough is enough boys & we ain't gonna lose another game this year then went out & did it won the whole thing.

I remember Tuck saying something like that when they were 7-7 & everyone was trash talking their team. They used that trash talk to motivate & adapt & overcome their oppponents & won 6 straight single elimination games all the way to glory & the rest they say is HISTORY!!

GCGiant
07-11-2012, 07:38 AM
Giggles!

I miss that son of a b****.. he was sooo f***ing funny


He's still around...he just has another name...or should I say he went back to his original name.

gumby742
07-11-2012, 08:21 AM
Giggles!

I miss that son of a b****.. he was sooo f***ing funny
He's still around...he just has another name...or should I say he went back to his original name.</P>


I don't think so. He had a distinct style. But maybe he wrote that way on purpose - which wouldhave been freaking genius.</P>

jomo
07-11-2012, 08:25 AM
Amani Toomerlol

GMENAGAIN
07-11-2012, 09:28 AM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally. Not so fast......Sometimes negatives turn into positives. Seemed to turn their season around last year after the 2nd Redskin loss that put them 7-7. The measage board here had them done, finished, over, kaput, etc... <FONT size=4>I think the players might have logged on this message board &amp; read all the negatives said about them &amp; had a little meeting &amp; said enough is enough boys &amp; we ain't gonna lose another game this year then went out &amp; did it won the whole thing.</FONT> I remember Tuck saying something like that when they were 7-7 &amp; everyone was trash talking their team. They used that trash talk to motivate &amp; adapt &amp; overcome their oppponents &amp; won 6 straight single elimination games all the way to glory &amp; the rest they say is HISTORY!!</P>


[:^)]</P>

giantsfan420
07-11-2012, 10:32 AM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . .

Agh, you beat me to it.

Gumby is a strong contender, though.

def. gumby with some criticism of TC, PF, and Eli...

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 10:52 AM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.
[;)]

giantsfan420
07-11-2012, 10:56 AM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.*
[;)]

lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol

and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

Joe Morrison
07-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Amani Toomerlol</P>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</P>

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 12:01 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>

Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 12:08 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.
[;)]

lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol

and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative. But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli. lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!

giantsfan420
07-11-2012, 12:20 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.*
[;)]

lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol

and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative.* But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli.* lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!*



yeah i cant wait for opening day either, heck even the preseason will bring some great debates and convos.

its great having eli as qb, tc as coach, KG and PF as coordinators, JR as GM, pretty much from top to bottom of the entire organization; we have awesome people in place...prob why we've been defending champs twice the past 5 seasons

gumby742
07-11-2012, 12:40 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.
[;)]
lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative. But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli. lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!


</P>


Hey now. Recently it's either Eli, JR, or our defense from last year, or our lack of respect. No need to post when i agree with something though. That's just no fun. But Eli posts by far are the most fun. Hard to pass those up. Haha.</P>


420: If you don't enjoy people belittling you, you might want to take a different tone of voice when you respond. Saying lmfaololrofl all the time(not entirely too sure what mean to begin with)and calling people names won't get you anywhere.</P>

buddy33
07-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Other than stating that Eli had obviously thrown to many picks the year before when have I trashed Eli? When he plays bad I'll say it. Doesn't mean I don't like Eli.

Morehead State
07-11-2012, 01:16 PM
Other than stating that Eli had obviously thrown to many picks the year before when have I trashed Eli? When he plays bad I'll say it. Doesn't mean I don't like Eli.
Stop whining.
Stand by your Eli hate like a man!!!!

I crack myself up!!

burier
07-11-2012, 01:31 PM
Other than stating that Eli had obviously thrown to many picks the year before when have I trashed Eli? When he plays bad I'll say it. Doesn't mean I don't like Eli.

HAHAHAHAHAH!

Yeah I definately remember you saying. "Ya know if Eli would just cut down on the INTs he'd be elite."

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Gotta love revisionist history.

buddy33
07-11-2012, 01:42 PM
Did I ever say I didn't like Eli as the QB for the Giants?

DemandedAce
07-11-2012, 02:12 PM
This thread has already achieved in making people crack hahah

Morehead State
07-11-2012, 02:25 PM
Did I ever say I didn't like Eli as the QB for the Giants?
How about this little gem....
"I hate evrything about Eli. His skinny legs, his underbite, his little laugh......."

Love,
Buddy


Hahahaha!!!!

buddy33
07-11-2012, 02:27 PM
You remember that?

Morehead State
07-11-2012, 02:29 PM
You remember that?
I'm just in a good mood today. Plus I like not being the target of this nonsense for a change.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 02:42 PM
Fbomb will go off on a coughlin rant, and a few will blame the D within a few weeks if we start off losing.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 02:57 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>

give me credit i never cracked even when we went 7-7 and lost to the bloody redskins of all teams.

THE_New_York_Giants
07-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Giggles!

I miss that son of a b****.. he was sooo f***ing funny
He's still around...he just has another name...or should I say he went back to his original name.</p>


I don't think so. He had a distinct style. But maybe he wrote that way on purpose - which wouldhave been freaking genius.</p>

Will the real giggles please come forth!

We shouldnt have banned that guy.. I liked his posts for the comedic effect.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 04:54 PM
Will the real giggles please come forth!

We shouldnt have banned that guy.. I liked his posts for the comedic effect.


umm is eli holding his banana in your avatar? lol

Delicreep
07-11-2012, 05:09 PM
Hmmm...last season, after the 5th game, a heartbreaking loss to the Seahawks, I started a thread about how ridiculous it was to say that the season was over, and can tell you the two posters that were the most adamant that the season was in fact over for the Gmen.

Buddy33
Daynemustgo

I say it's a pick 'em between those two

buddy33
07-11-2012, 05:12 PM
What did I say? It should be easy to remember right?

giantsfan420
07-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Hmmm...last season, after the 5th game, a heartbreaking loss to the Seahawks, I started a thread about how ridiculous it was to say that the season was over, and can tell you the two posters that were the most adamant that the season was in fact over for the Gmen.

Buddy33
Daynemustgo

I say it's a pick 'em between those two

true...but i remember as early as the preseason, but really it was the redskins game, that gumby and a couple others really laid it on deep on eli and claimed he was "done" or something...it actually got pretty widespread...

I remember making a thread pointing out how eli went like 16-18 with a td or something in the 2nd half vs STL and people were adamant it didn't mean nothing, and that we were dead men walking heading into the week 3 matchup vs Philly...

we got to have the record quickest to throw in the towel at trouble

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 05:26 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.
[;)]
lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative. But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli. lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!


</p>


Hey now. Recently it's either Eli, JR, or our defense from last year, or our lack of respect. No need to post when i agree with something though. That's just no fun. But Eli posts by far are the most fun. Hard to pass those up. Haha.</p>


420: If you don't enjoy people belittling you, you might want to take a different tone of voice when you respond. Saying lmfaololrofl all the time(not entirely too sure what mean to begin with)and calling people names won't get you anywhere.</p>

My bad Gumby. Maybe I'm only reading the Eli threads! [:)]

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 05:28 PM
Did I ever say I didn't like Eli as the QB for the Giants?

You don't get it Buddy.

Though shalt never question thy great one! [;)]

Roosevelt
07-11-2012, 05:31 PM
Hmmm...last season, after the 5th game, a heartbreaking loss to the Seahawks, I started a thread about how ridiculous it was to say that the season was over, and can tell you the two posters that were the most adamant that the season was in fact over for the Gmen.

Buddy33
Daynemustgo

I say it's a pick 'em between those two


Who was the guy who used to start the gameday threads? Poppa Smurph? He was funny as hell. The second something went wrong in a game he'd fall to pieces and start ripping everyone on the team. lol.

giantsfan420
07-11-2012, 05:54 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.*
[;)]
lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative.* But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli.* lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!*


</P>


Hey now.* Recently it's either Eli, JR, or our defense from last year, or our lack of respect.* No need to post when i agree with something though.** That's just no fun.* *But Eli posts by far are the most fun.* Hard to pass those up.* Haha.</P>


420:* If you don't enjoy people belittling you, you might want to take a different tone of voice when you respond.* Saying lmfaololrofl all the time*(not entirely too sure what mean to begin with)*and calling people names won't get you anywhere.</P>

1-i dont think i've ever called you a name. i may have said that a particular point or thought you've had is moronic, but i dont think you're a moron. and its funny coming from a person who singles me out in their sig.
2-lmao, which is what I use, is "laughing my *** off", i use it as some one would use haha or lol, sorry, I will not use that when conversing with you.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 05:56 PM
Hmmm...last season, after the 5th game, a heartbreaking loss to the Seahawks, I started a thread about how ridiculous it was to say that the season was over, and can tell you the two posters that were the most adamant that the season was in fact over for the Gmen.

Buddy33
Daynemustgo

I say it's a pick 'em between those two


Who was the guy who used to start the gameday threads? Poppa Smurph? He was funny as hell. The second something went wrong in a game he'd fall to pieces and start ripping everyone on the team. lol.

yeah lol, completely jump ship after 1 qtr. haha knowing the giants seem to bloom later in games.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 06:07 PM
I know who it will be, the poster who has al bundy as his avy, spy something.

fourth&forever
07-11-2012, 06:35 PM
I know who it will be, the poster who has al bundy as his avy, spy something.

Mr. Excitement

rcrane082985
07-11-2012, 06:49 PM
Tuckyou and its not even close.

barran21
07-11-2012, 07:05 PM
Me...

In Pre-season...

ShakeNBake
07-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Harooni will probably make a thread baiting people as usual and people like buffyblue and NYGfan4Life will bite

gumby742
07-11-2012, 10:53 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.*
[;)]
lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative.* But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli.* lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!*


</P>


Hey now.* Recently it's either Eli, JR, or our defense from last year, or our lack of respect.* No need to post when i agree with something though.** That's just no fun.* *But Eli posts by far are the most fun.* Hard to pass those up.* Haha.</P>


420:* If you don't enjoy people belittling you, you might want to take a different tone of voice when you respond.* Saying lmfaololrofl all the time*(not entirely too sure what mean to begin with)*and calling people names won't get you anywhere.</P>

1-i dont think i've ever called you a name. i may have said that a particular point or thought you've had is moronic, but i dont think you're a moron. and its funny coming from a person who singles me out in their sig.
2-lmao, which is what I use, is "laughing my *** off", i use it as some one would use haha or lol, sorry, I will not use that when conversing with you.

Just so you know, in my sig, it's not directed specifically at you, but to all of those people who say the "Eli Haters" start the Eli debates by hijacking threads etc. Just pointing out an example showing that Eli lovers are the ones that usually starting it. If you want me to take your name off of it, I'll gladly do so.

Harooni
07-11-2012, 11:20 PM
I know who it will be, the poster who has al bundy as his avy, spy something.

Mr. Excitement
ahhh him. my money is on him. first game thread.

rainierjef
07-12-2012, 02:06 AM
i remember alot... i mean alot of people cracking after the eagles loss, i remember having to write a don't jump of the bridge just yet tread to talk some sense in to most of them, didn't work we lost to the saints a week later =/

gumby742
07-12-2012, 08:18 AM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

No doubt you and Buddy will lead the way.

Then, after Eli's first mediocre game, Gumby or Moorehead will make an innocuous comment like "Eli didn't play so well" and that will set off a firestorm headed by 420, until all hell breaks loose.

God, I love this place.
[;)]
lol...i see it being more of a person making a positive comment about eli, which leads to gumby trying to make that person feel wrong and make him take back the comment or something lol, THEN i come in and stick up for the little guy...lol and MS participates in a wide range of topics at least, you cant find Gumby in a thread that doesnt talk about Eli, try and find one...its like wheres waldo lol

I have to be fair and say that I think Gumby is being sincere and not trying to be provocative. But you are right, he doesn't talk about anything other than Eli. lol.

I can't wait until the first game that Eli carry's the team so we can all debate whether he actually did or not.

In all seriousness though, it is truly great having Eli as our QB and that we can debate this stuff as the reigning champs!


</P>


Hey now. Recently it's either Eli, JR, or our defense from last year, or our lack of respect. No need to post when i agree with something though. That's just no fun. But Eli posts by far are the most fun. Hard to pass those up. Haha.</P>


420: If you don't enjoy people belittling you, you might want to take a different tone of voice when you respond. Saying lmfaololrofl all the time(not entirely too sure what mean to begin with)and calling people names won't get you anywhere.</P>




My bad Gumby. Maybe I'm only reading the Eli threads! [:)]
</P>


It's the cool place to be and you know it!</P>

FBomb
07-12-2012, 10:09 AM
Lambeau12</P>

FBomb
07-12-2012, 10:14 AM
Fbomb will go off on a coughlin rant, and a few will blame the D within a few weeks if we start off losing.
</P>


lol......I jumped off the Coughlin wagon pretty early too. When the Redskins knew Eli's signals in the first matchup,I started calling for his head. </P>


I was totally wrong about The General. </P>

rebelfan1966
07-12-2012, 01:53 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

rebelfan1966
07-12-2012, 02:00 PM
Freightning Lightning.... no wait..... never mind

Harooni
07-12-2012, 02:22 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 02:28 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

And awaaaaaaaaaaay we go!

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/5889/98552385.jpg

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 02:32 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:01 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game. This is as idiotic a notion as I have ever heard. Any real fan hangs on every play. You really need to put that crap away.

pino
07-12-2012, 03:07 PM
It's hard to stay immune to the roller coaster ride we call the Giants.

Just remember that we only need to make the playoffs. How we get there doesn't matter.

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 03:19 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:23 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 03:29 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:31 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 03:34 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:36 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 03:39 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?

Yes...but I would point out a couple of things. First, if you do find yourself sitting there pulling against him, then you have to search your soul, right? Only those doing this, if they exist, would know.

Secondly, you mentioned agenda. Thank you very much.

egyptian420
07-12-2012, 03:42 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?
I hate to bud in....but I think it goes both ways. If we're succesful, then that poster will obviously be happy that we won and forget about their old statements. If we lose, then they go off saying "I told you so....I knew this would happen, our _____ sucks and we need to get a new ____".

We've all done this before though, it's only human nature.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:43 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?

Yes...but I would point out a couple of things. First, if you do find yourself sitting there pulling against him, then you have to search your soul, right? Only those doing this, if they exist, would know.

Secondly, you mentioned agenda. Thank you very much.
If you find yourself rooting against him, you have no soul to search.
And trust me, there are plenty of agendas on all sides of the Eli issue.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 03:46 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?
I hate to bud in....but I think it goes both ways. If we're succesful, then that poster will obviously be happy that we won and forget about their old statements. If we lose, then they go off saying "I told you so....I knew this would happen, our _____ sucks and we need to get a new ____".

We've all done this before though, it's only human nature.

First of all, thats a far cry from "rooting against Eli".
Secondly, even guys who try to stick a bad loss or a bad performance (right after that loss) in the face of fellow Giants fans are only slighlty less reprehensable than a so called Giants fan rooting against our QB.
Our differences end at the first whistle.

egyptian420
07-12-2012, 03:54 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?
In my opinion? Absolutely. Anyone calling themselves a fan and then rooting against our QB should be taken out and shot. They certainly aren't fans.
But the real point here are some of these dopes who assume that if a fan is ever critical of any player, they, by definition, root against them. Takes the mind of a 2 year old to draw that conclusion.

Well...I'm just thinkin' out loud, here, so I am wondering about those who may have made bold statements that stood a chance of having egg on their face. What about those guys? Do you think they were rooting for him to win when they knew that would make them look rather foolish? Just wonderin'...
Ther success of our team trumps any message board agenda.

Ahhh...nice answer!
Don't you agree?
I hate to bud in....but I think it goes both ways. If we're succesful, then that poster will obviously be happy that we won and forget about their old statements. If we lose, then they go off saying "I told you so....I knew this would happen, our _____ sucks and we need to get a new ____".

We've all done this before though, it's only human nature.

First of all, thats a far cry from "rooting against Eli".
Secondly, even guys who try to stick a bad loss or a bad performance (right after that loss) in the face of fellow Giants fans are only slighlty less reprehensable than a so called Giants fan rooting against our QB.
Our differences end at the first whistle.
Oh...I was just referring to people who are overly concerned with the consistency of their message board rhetoric. I just meant that no matter what they criticize on here, if the team goes out an performs, they're usually glad they were wrong. However, if the team fails, they'll brag about how they told us from the start about the issue.

As for anyone who actually genuinely roots "against" our QB or team....then I don't consider them a fan, period. I'm not sure how anyone could.

rebelfan1966
07-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 04:41 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>

So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls?

gumby742
07-12-2012, 04:52 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls?</P>


Yes. And you should be able to spot them from a mile away.Apost titled "Eli Manning is a terrible QB" is screaming just that. But in the past, pretty much everyone took the bait.</P>

GmenFan1980
07-12-2012, 04:56 PM
No votes for the Can'tBlameshockeynow guy?

Edit- or is he just a troll?

gumby742
07-12-2012, 04:59 PM
No votes for the Can'tBlameshockeynow guy? Edit- or is he just a troll?</P>


I think he's hilarious, but he's obviously a troll. I overlooked it for a while, but his screen name says it all. Too funny.</P>

GmenFan1980
07-12-2012, 05:06 PM
No votes for the Can'tBlameshockeynow guy? Edit- or is he just a troll?</P>


I think he's hilarious, but he's obviously a troll.* I overlooked it for a while, but his screen name says it all.* Too funny.*</P>

Right, well since he is disqualified, then it will of course be me

After the first 3 and out, it will be a doomed season lol :P

Harooni
07-12-2012, 05:07 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</p>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </p>

So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls? but there is more to the giants then one position player. you root for the team, if they trade eli for another QB someday and win a SB will some of you still be giants fans??

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 05:41 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 05:49 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</p>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </p>

So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls?

No doubt. If someone here is rooting for Eli to be unsuccessful they are not a true fan.

I'd like to know who does that.

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 05:53 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</p>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </p>

So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls? but there is more to the giants then one position player. you root for the team, if they trade eli for another QB someday and win a SB will some of you still be giants fans??


That's a good question.

We'll still be here (god willing) [:)] but will they? I say as long as Eli retires a Giant they will be Giants fans.

If the Giants cut him, like they did Simms, they'll be out of here real quick!

byron
07-12-2012, 06:34 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P> So, if that's true...and I think it is...then what does that make these people if they aren't in fact Giants fans? Trolls?

No doubt. If someone here is rooting for Eli to be unsuccessful they are not a true fan.

I'd like to know who does that.

that goes against fan law!.....only an idiot or a non-fan would do that and there is plenty of them around ;)

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 07:03 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>
I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail.
You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 07:08 PM
but there is more to the giants then one position player. you root for the team, if they trade eli for another QB someday and win a SB will some of you still be giants fans??


That is a good question. I would be a liar if I said that I was this much of a Giant fan pre-Eli, but there is more to the Giants than just Eli. I may not have ever found that out if not for him being a brat and demanding to come to NY.

I am pretty sure that if Eli were traded today, that I would not be as much of a fan of NY...because I would be thinking...WTF?

However, if his career continues in NY and nothing like that happens, and then he retires...I am sure that I will continue to be a Giant fan.

I don't think I would hold it against them if they let him go late in his career due to a business decision...like Peyton.

Like I said before...there is just something about the Giants that makes you proud to be a fan.

rebelfan1966
07-12-2012, 07:31 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </P>

lawl
07-12-2012, 07:38 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>

This is flat out wrong.

You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these.

If anyone should come into question, it is you.

Neverend
07-12-2012, 07:47 PM
It may be unpopular but if this defense is relatively HEALTHY and is not staistically at LEAST a top 10 Nfl defense in yardage and/or scoring-wise by midseason this year, then I'm calling for PF's head! No way a D with this kind of talent can continue to be inconsistent and underachieve

Neverend
07-12-2012, 07:48 PM
But if Eli has a 2 or 3 game stretch when he's playing off I'll bet on Die-Hard making a thread. Probably with some 'I told ya so' theme about how we're looking at Eli with rose colored glasses or something last year and was always a good but not elite QB

bigjeep
07-12-2012, 07:59 PM
[:O] Gee, I posted this as a fun post and just got back to see I opened up a can of worms! My choice was going to be Buddy also, but I didn't post it as it might be seen as the pot calling the kettle black! [:D] I also got a kick out of Giggles, got a few laughs and was sorry to see him go! If I ever again post anything negative about Eli, may I be banned for life! [{] Eli [}]

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 08:51 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</p>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </p>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</p>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </p>

Sorry dude but you are delusional as well as paranoid. The truth is no fan wants to rip any of our players, and to suggest other wise is ludicrous.

If a player plays poorly they will be criticized.

Now, you should have no problem understanding this because you have no problem criticizing other players as you attempt to defend your guy.

So now I must ask you why the double standard?

GCGiant
07-12-2012, 09:10 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 09:24 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>
Maybe the difference between you and I is simple.
I am a Giants fan, and therefore an Eli fan. You are an Eli fan so "for now" your a Giants fan. I really can't think of any other explanation for your view that a real Giants fan would ever root against Eli. Its absolutely nuts. Eli is my QB and I'm very happy about that. But there will come a time where Eli will be gone and guess what....I'll still live and breath on every play, every week with my beloved team. The team that I have supported for 45 years now. Starting year 46.
I don't know what your problem is. But your view is so full of crap its comical.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 09:28 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.
So you admit that your fanhood is dependant on one player. Mine has endured some of the most horrific football in the 70's that you could imagine. My first playoff game as a Giants fan (and I started at age 8) was as a 23 year old adult. Could you survive that kind of bad play for your entire life? It seems not.
The problem with you guys is that you actually believe that a lifelong Giants fan would EVER root against any player on our beloved team.
Its so unbelievable I really don't know what else to say. you guys don't understand real fans I guess, because no other explanation can be possible.

THE_New_York_Giants
07-12-2012, 09:37 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million... It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though.. However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless. I will never cheer for that.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 09:43 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million...* It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though..* However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless.* I will never cheer for that.

You don't "choose" to root for a team. You either love them or you don't.

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 09:54 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 09:56 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game.

So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million... It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though.. However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless. I will never cheer for that.



Sure, you would cheer against them but it wouldn't be sincere.

After you got the money you'd make yourself a Giants Cave and throw a massive party.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 10:00 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

byron
07-12-2012, 10:00 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game. So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million... It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though.. However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless. I will never cheer for that.
You don't "choose" to root for a team. You either love them or you don't.</P>


I agree MH I literally don't remember not being a Giants fan... football wouldn't be the same without thegiants to root for.....only a real fan knows what we are saying here its something I couldn't be talked out of or brought out of its in your blood like a family member...</P>

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 10:04 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game. So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million...* It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though..* However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless.* I will never cheer for that.
You don't "choose" to root for a team. You either love them or you don't.</P>


I agree MH I literally don't remember not being a Giants fan... football wouldn't be the same without the*giants to root for.....only a real fan knows what we are saying here* its something I couldn't be talked out of or brought out of its in your blood like a family member...</P>
I have always said to people that I have three loves...my wife, my daughter and the New York Football Giants...and not necessarily in that order. Everyone who knows me here in Mass. knows me as "the Giants fan" first and everything else is second.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. "Rebelfan" needs to understand what being a "Giantsfan" is all about.

byron
07-12-2012, 10:14 PM
There is not a single Giants fan...not one....that would ever hope that Eli has an off game. So it would be safe to assume that if someone out there was hoping that he would do poorly, he is not a Giants fan, right?

Absof-ckinglutley.

(the board didn't catch that one so I fixed it)


Everyone's morals can be bought... I think I'd cheer against the Giants for $100 million... It'd cost them $1 billion to get me to cheer for the ***les, Cowpoop, or Foreskins though.. However seeing the city of filthadelphia go without a superbowl is priceless. I will never cheer for that.
You don't "choose" to root for a team. You either love them or you don't.</P>


I agree MH I literally don't remember not being a Giants fan... football wouldn't be the same without thegiants to root for.....only a real fan knows what we are saying here its something I couldn't be talked out of or brought out of its in your blood like a family member...</P> I have always said to people that I have three loves...my wife, my daughter and the New York Football Giants...and not necessarily in that order. Everyone who knows me here in Mass. knows me as "the Giants fan" first and everything else is second. You know exactly what I'm talking about. "Rebelfan" needs to understand what being a "Giantsfan" is all about. Idk what it is either its seems some here are into the worshiping of a player rather than cheering for the TEAM......oh well what do I know... I was bornblue I'll die blue

Roosevelt
07-12-2012, 10:29 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

You are so right Morehead. They believe they are Giants fans and talk about our proud tradition as if they feel some kind of bond. But the truth is they are so far removed from what it means to be a Giants fan.

That is so cool that you and I (as teens) froze our asses off back 1973 at the Yale Bowl only to watch our team fall yet again to the Cowboys....

And how cool is it knowing Bob Shepherd was on his knees praying that moment that Joe D. made that kick? What a great ****in day.

True fans appreciate our history and understand what the heart of a Phil Simms meant to our organization.

Homers are close-minded and petty, and in no way represent the qualities of the Giants' Eli Manning.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 10:35 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

You are so right Morehead.* They believe they are Giants fans and talk about our proud tradition as if they feel some kind of bond.* But the truth is they are so far removed from what it means to be a Giants fan.

That is so cool that you and I (as teens) froze our asses off back 1973 at the Yale Bowl only to watch our team fall yet again to the Cowboys....

And how cool is it knowing Bob Shepherd was on his knees praying that moment that Joe D. made that kick?* What a great ****in day.

True fans appreciate our history and understand what the heart of a Phil Simms meant to our organization.

Homers are close-minded and petty, and in no way represent the qualities of the Giants' Eli Manning.

And we don't have to look in books for a lot of that history..do we Rosie. we were there.
And you make an outstanding point about these folks. All the individual accolades that they bestow on Eli are exactly the kind of things that Eli himself has always stood against.
Maybe if they had the same perspective that Eli has about the team game of football, we would all get along a lot better.

gumby742
07-12-2012, 10:45 PM
Hmm i never would have thought that some Giant fans love our team the same way Tebow fans love their Jets. Never even crossed my mind all this time.

Delicreep
07-12-2012, 10:51 PM
Gentlemen...really?

This has actually gone from a pretty amusing thread to one of the flat out worst, divisive and "un Giant like" things I have ever seen.

I don't judge any Giants fan on why he became a Giants fan; I embrace him. I may have the classic "at my fathers knee" kind of stories, but it doesn't make me any better a fan than someone who came aboard due to a player, or a successful season or any of a million completely justified reasons for starting the journey to being a fan.

And holy cats...I would have thought the Giants message board would have been a safe haven to be a relentless fan of a player on the Giants. And what cracks me up about that everyone getting on the "Eli Lovers" is a diehard Tiki fan who never want to hear a bad thing said about that guy, but none of them seem to understand how the other guy doesn't want to hear a bad word about Eli.
And Eli lovers...you can just kind of flip that around since most of you seem to want to run the absolute best RB in Giants history into the dirt.

Say your sorry, shake digital hands and move the **** on and be good to your fellow Giants fans.

Edit...best part of this post? No sooner than I hit post, I see Harooni has a new thread about how Eli is a sure thing bust in 2012, which I am sure he has posted for research purposes and not just to try and stick it to the Eli guys.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 11:02 PM
Gentlemen...really?

This has actually gone from a pretty amusing thread to one of the flat out worst, divisive and "un Giant like" things I have ever seen.

I don't judge any Giants fan on why he became a Giants fan; I embrace him.* I may have the classic "at my fathers knee" kind of stories, but it doesn't make me any better a fan than someone who came aboard due to a player, or a successful season or any of a million completely justified reasons for starting the journey to being a fan.

And holy cats...I would have thought the Giants message board would have been a safe haven to be a relentless fan of a player on the Giants.* And what cracks me up about that everyone getting on the "Eli Lovers" is a diehard Tiki fan who never want to hear a bad thing said about that guy, but none of them seem to understand how the other guy doesn't want to hear a bad word about Eli.
And Eli lovers...you can just kind of flip that around since most of you seem to want to run the absolute best RB in Giants history into the dirt.

Say your sorry, shake digital hands and move the **** on and be good to your fellow Giants fans.

Edit...best part of this post?* No sooner than I hit post, I see Harooni has a new thread about how Eli is a sure thing bust in 2012, which I am sure he has posted for research purposes and not just to try and stick it to the Eli guys.


Hey... I don't want to hear any crap about how a Giants fan would root against our QB. Thats all. I couldn't give 2 ****s about how a fan becomes a fan. But when its clear that they no longer will be fans when a particular player is gone, I don't want to be lectured by them about my loyalties.

Stop with the scolding and enjoy the fight. (or I will be forced to thrash you)

giantsfan420
07-12-2012, 11:19 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 11:24 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

giantsfan420
07-12-2012, 11:30 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one poster for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 11:34 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this
Your post was not slightly off topic. It was completely off topic. This thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about.

You went off on a "your were wrong about Eli" rant. What a friggin shock!

giantsfan420
07-12-2012, 11:37 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this
Your post was not slightly off topic. It was completely off topic. This thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about.

so you dont think some of your stances ever led to a poster going "is this guy a giants fan?"...lmfao ok then... bc thats what my point was...some of your stances has probably led to another poster misunderstanding and being confused as to who you root for...obviously, its why this discussion is occurring in the first place lol

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 11:43 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this
Your post was not slightly off topic. It was completely off topic. This thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about.

so you dont think some of your stances ever led to a poster going "is this guy a giants fan?"...lmfao ok then... bc thats what my point was...some of your stances has probably led to another poster misunderstanding and being confused as to who you root for...obviously, its why this discussion is occurring in the first place lol
Are you suggesting that being critical of a player suggests that you area less loyal fan?
That is completely nuts.
My passion for the Giants makes me very frustrated when I see less than good play. I have praised players when they play well and criticized when they didn't. Its called being a fan.

giantsfan420
07-12-2012, 11:46 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this
Your post was not slightly off topic. It was completely off topic. This thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about.

so you dont think some of your stances ever led to a poster going "is this guy a giants fan?"...lmfao ok then... bc thats what my point was...some of your stances has probably led to another poster misunderstanding and being confused as to who you root for...obviously, its why this discussion is occurring in the first place lol
Are you suggesting that being critical of a player suggests that you area less loyal fan?
That is completely nuts.
My passion for the Giants makes me very frustrated when I see less than good play. I have praised players when they play well and critisized when they didn't. Its called being a fan.

i agree. which is what my original post was trying to state before you started with the whole talk down typical bs. they are often getting confused and misunderstanding bc you are taking stances that they wouldnt really ever think of, bc your more of a diehard fan than most posters here...thats all i was trying to say. is that itd be easy to mistake a poster for something else...happens a lot around here actually, the misunderstandings just usually, and unfortunately, center around our qb...

Morehead State
07-12-2012, 11:53 PM
You know...I've been thinking about it...finally...and I can really see where you guys who have been around longer...true Giants fans, or fans because that's where you live..are coming from. It must be irritating to have us guys here. I think the solution might be for us Eli homers to pull for the Giants and Eli elsewhere and let you guys have your MB, which is rightfully yours. I apologize for intruding.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe someone could start an ELI MANNING OF THE NY GIANTS message board so people like yourself could feel at home.

How many people do you think would join, two?



Rosie....its amazing to me the attitude some of these guys have. I'll always remember how you and I discovered that we were at the same freezing game at the Yale Bowl against the Cowboys. Do you think some of these guys who think real Giants fans could possibly root against our QB, would endure the kind of bad football we did and still be the most loyal fans?
I doubt it.
They have no friggin clue what we went through. they have no idea of the elation at that Joe Danelo FG in OT in week 16, 1981. Or the playoff win the next week in Philly.
Its pisses me right off these guys jumping on the Giants bandwagon and questioning us.
They would have all folded up their tents and rooted for Dallas.

thats all fine and respectable. but all the storied past of ur giants fandom doesnt mean u cant be wrong (even often) about particular players...in your case, you have been perceptually wrong about eli to a strong majority of the board, whether thats right or wrong or justified or not. thats where the confusion could come into play about your actual loyalty to the team...

I know I've read a couple of comments and literally wondered to myself if the person making them is a giants fan...just to be clear, i never thought u werent a die hard giants fan. i just thought you were an incorrect die hards giants fan.
That has absolutely nothing with this conversation at all.
THIS conversation is about a few foolish posters who would suggest that good, longstanding, loyal Giants fans would actually root against their QB, in order to score message board points.
And I was NEVER wrong about Eli. I said he threw too many interceptions in 2010. Both he and Tom Coughlin said as much. I also said that he had a great season in 2011, which he did. Unlike other posters on both sides of the Eli debates, I can actuall see Eli for what he is. And see his actual development as a top NFL QB.

Follow along or be left behind.

lol. dude, a 5 yr old could have followed along with the prior convo. which is why i assumed it would be understood that when i interjected with that above post, it would be slightly off topic although imo still relevant (bc it would be easy to mistake one for the other). for some reason, you couldn't keep up?...but no worries, im jumping off i dont wanna keep up with this
Your post was not slightly off topic. It was completely off topic. This thread has nothing to do with what you were talking about.

so you dont think some of your stances ever led to a poster going "is this guy a giants fan?"...lmfao ok then... bc thats what my point was...some of your stances has probably led to another poster misunderstanding and being confused as to who you root for...obviously, its why this discussion is occurring in the first place lol
Are you suggesting that being critical of a player suggests that you area less loyal fan?
That is completely nuts.
My passion for the Giants makes me very frustrated when I see less than good play. I have praised players when they play well and critisized when they didn't. Its called being a fan.

i agree. which is what my original post was trying to state before you started with the whole talk down typical bs. they are often getting confused and misunderstanding bc you are taking stances that they wouldnt really ever think of, bc your more of a diehard fan than most posters here...thats all i was trying to say. is that itd be easy to mistake a poster for something else...happens a lot around here actually, the misunderstandings just usually, and unfortunately, center around our qb...
What "stances" have I taken? My QB threw 25 passes to the other team in 2010 and I took a "stance" that that was too many. Last year, I took the "stance" that Eli was much calmer in the pocket and was moving much more instinctively in the pocket to create more time for guys to get open.
If someone "misunderstands" my stances to the point where they would suggest I would root against our QB, they are an idiot. especially when that guy is only rooting for the Giants because his college hero plays for us. When Eli's gone, he'll root for someone else.
Thats my "stance" in this post.

G-Man67
07-13-2012, 05:07 AM
buddy33 . . . . he's the Eeyore of these boards . . . . .

bingo

GCGiant
07-13-2012, 06:39 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 08:09 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol
...Says the guy with Tim Tebow as his avatar. Thanks for the lecture.

gumby742
07-13-2012, 08:45 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better. Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers. Edit- Oh...btw. <U>Does this make me the 1st person to crack? </U>lol</P>


Honestly, I don't even count you as a Giants fan to begin with. You seem to cheer for the Giants the same way I cheered Michael Jordan's Bulls. And I loved (and still do) the Bulls.But I don't compare to long time Bulls fans.I bleed blue. And I have been for a longfreaking time - very closeas long as MS and Roosevelt. It boggles my mind how you can even fathom that a Giants fan would want Eli to fail.</P>


And the reason is clear. You're not a true Giants fan - period, so you will never get it.</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 08:58 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better. Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers. Edit- Oh...btw. <U>Does this make me the 1st person to crack? </U>lol</P>


Honestly, I don't even count you as a Giants fan to begin with. You seem to cheer for the Giants the same way I cheered Michael Jordan's Bulls. And I loved (and still do) the Bulls.But I don't compare to long time Bulls fans.I bleed blue. And I have been for a longfreaking time - very closeas long as MS and Roosevelt. It boggles my mind how you can even fathom that a Giants fan would want Eli to fail.</P>


And the reason is clear. You're not a true Giants fan - period, so you will never get it.</P>
I honestly don't know what someones loyalties are to our team. But when you have one guy who only roots for the Giants because he follows Eli Manning from Ol' Miss, and another who says that he wasn't much of a Giants fan before Eli and is "pretty sure" he'd be a Giants fan after, and then those two are questioning the loyalties of fans who have bled blue for decades, no matter who was on the field.....I call B friggin S!

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 09:13 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol

Hey, aren't you supposed to be starting up a new message board? [;)]

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 09:14 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol

Hey, aren't you supposed to be starting up a new message board? [;)]



I think his screen name says it all.

ShakeNBake
07-13-2012, 09:21 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol

We also got confirmation that this type of fan doesn't exist on this board only in your delusions.

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 09:53 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better.

Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers.

Edit-

Oh...btw. Does this make me the 1st person to crack? lol

Hey, aren't you supposed to be starting up a new message board? [;)]



I think his screen name says it all.

He certainly wanted everyone to know didn't he.

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 10:26 AM
I'm just glad that we got a definite confirmation that any person who finds himself hoping Eli screws up for his own agenda purposes is definitely not a Giants fan. Now, you may be able to deny it to other people...people here on this board...but, deep in your heart...you will know when you are doing it. I couldn't have hoped that this would conclude any better. Bye, y'all...see ya in the funny papers. Edit- Oh...btw. <u>Does this make me the 1st person to crack? </u>lol</p>


Honestly, I don't even count you as a Giants fan to begin with. You seem to cheer for the Giants the same way I cheered Michael Jordan's Bulls. And I loved (and still do) the Bulls.But I don't compare to long time Bulls fans.I bleed blue. And I have been for a longfreaking time - very closeas long as MS and Roosevelt. It boggles my mind how you can even fathom that a Giants fan would want Eli to fail.</p>


And the reason is clear. You're not a true Giants fan - period, so you will never get it.</p>
I honestly don't know what someones loyalties are to our team. But when you have one guy who only roots for the Giants because he follows Eli Manning from Ol' Miss, and another who says that he wasn't much of a Giants fan before Eli and is "pretty sure" he'd be a Giants fan after, and then those two are questioning the loyalties of fans who have bled blue for decades, no matter who was on the field.....I call B friggin S!

To even suggest that we would hope that our franchise quarterback (the player we gave up so much to get) would screw up, is just way too nonsensical for me. You have to be pretty warped to get into that kind of thought.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 10:40 AM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>

This is flat out wrong.

You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these.

If anyone should come into question, it is you.

No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding.

And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 10:42 AM
[:O]* Gee, I posted this as a fun post and just got back to see I opened up a can of worms! My choice was going to be Buddy also, but I didn't post it as it might be seen as the pot calling the kettle black!* [:D]* I also got a kick out of Giggles, got a few laughs and was sorry to see him go! If I ever again post anything negative about Eli, may I be banned for life!* [{] Eli [}]

Trouble maker..lol (kidding)

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 10:46 AM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>

This is flat out wrong.

You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these.

If anyone should come into question, it is you.

No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding.

And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.
I can't say for sure but it sounds to me like you are more an Eli Manning fan than a Giants fan. In other words, your fandom is conditional on his being on the team.
Well we suffer from no such infliction. We are Giants fans when its Norm Snead, Randy Johnson, Phil Simms or Eli Manning at QB. We are fans if we're 12-4 or 2-14. And guys my age who went through the 70's have the battle scars to prove it.

To me, you're suggestion that a Giants fan would actually root against our QB demonstrates that you have no idea what being a Giants fan is really about.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 10:50 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 10:52 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 10:58 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:02 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!
I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:03 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:07 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin
When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans.
If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 11:08 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!
I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do.

I sure hope you have a nice weekend MS.... I will be at home reading my "How to be a real Giants Fan For Dummies" book I just purchased off of Amazon. : )

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 11:09 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

+1

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:10 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!
I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do.

I sure hope you have a nice weekend MS.... I will be at home reading my "How to be a real Giants Fan For Dummies" book I just purchased off of Amazon. : )
I assume you got the audio version.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:10 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 11:12 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!
I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do.

I sure hope you have a nice weekend MS.... I will be at home reading my "How to be a real Giants Fan For Dummies" book I just purchased off of Amazon. : )
I assume you got the audio version.

LOL

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:13 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah. I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread... I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch. Go Giants! You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though. And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly. Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants! I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do. I sure hope you have a nice weekend MS.... I will be at home reading my "How to be a real Giants Fan For Dummies" book I just purchased off of Amazon. : ) I assume you got the audio version.</P>


Superfans don't read.</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:14 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>
So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:16 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 11:17 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:19 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>
Thats not the argument here. This thing started when a poster claimed that fans who have been critical of Eli are actually rooting against him in games.
How people get "pleasure" is not relevant to my point. I'm saying that no matter what we think of any player or players, when the game starts all Giants fans have a singular purpose. And thats to see us win games and have every player play as well as possible,

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:20 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)
Maybe you can point out any "stance" that I've taken that would suggest that I would root against any Giant player.

gumby742
07-13-2012, 11:21 AM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.They're a follower. Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets. Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around. Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin. Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,etc everything.And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life. Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team. You're as much a fan as any of the above. And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it. </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli. Any move like that will be scrutinized.So what's the problem? </P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:21 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>


Thats not the argument here. This thing started when a poster claimed that fans who have been critical of Eli are actually rooting against him in games. How people get "pleasure" is not relevant to my point. I'm saying that no matter what we think of any player or players, when the game starts all Giants fans have a singular purpose. And thats to see us win games and have every player play as well as possible,</P>


I KNOW that's not the arguement here, which is why I worded my first post in this exchange the way I did.......</P>

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 11:22 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)
Maybe you can point out any "stance" that I've taken that would suggest that I would root against any Giant player.

im not questioning you in any way, im just making their point is all. i think its ridiculous to challenge a persons loyalty to the team (unless theyre an obvious troll) a) bc i have challenged a persons loyalty that had no business being challenged and b) my loyalty has been challenged as well (ironically by the camp who say your not a giants fan if you root for eli lol)

as i've said before, i may believe some opinions u have are incorrect, but i know your a big time giants fan.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:26 AM
So...Jeepy.....in your opinion.....who cracked first?

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:27 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)
Maybe you can point out any "stance" that I've taken that would suggest that I would root against any Giant player.

im not questioning you in any way, im just making their point is all. i think its ridiculous to challenge a persons loyalty to the team (unless theyre an obvious troll) a) bc i have challenged a persons loyalty that had no business being challenged and b) my loyalty has been challenged as well (ironically by the camp who say your not a giants fan if you root for eli lol)

as i've said before, i may believe some opinions u have are incorrect, but i know your a big time giants fan.
Why would I ever challenge your loyalty? You're the ultimate team homer. If anything you where blinders and see the players through rose colored glasses.
No....none of this is aimed at you.

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:29 AM
Understand the basic argument here. Its simply about a couple of posters who are saying that some Giants fans actually root against Giants players during the games. I say thats crap.

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 11:31 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)
Maybe you can point out any "stance" that I've taken that would suggest that I would root against any Giant player.

im not questioning you in any way, im just making their point is all. i think its ridiculous to challenge a persons loyalty to the team (unless theyre an obvious troll) a) bc i have challenged a persons loyalty that had no business being challenged and b) my loyalty has been challenged as well (ironically by the camp who say your not a giants fan if you root for eli lol)

as i've said before, i may believe some opinions u have are incorrect, but i know your a big time giants fan.
Why would I ever challenge your loyalty? You're the ultimate team homer. If anything you where blinders and see the players through rose colored glasses.
No....none of this is aimed at you.

i should have prefaced my entry into this thread with "none of this is directed at MS". I could see how you would think i was like implying or directing these statements at you, I'm just trying to try and add clarity to their statements. i know u've never really challenged my loyalty or nothing, again, just commenting on the particular topic, not on any individual poster.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:32 AM
Understand the basic argument here. Its simply about a couple of posters who are saying that some Giants fans actually root against Giants players during the games. I say thats crap.</P>


I know....I was trying to shed some light as to WHY some of those posters would feel that way. </P>

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:33 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:35 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

And you have shown your true colors for years when it comes to the "NY Giants" QB.... and I am not back tracking from anything I have said.... I stand by everything I have said.... I am simply just trying to move on because while you may think your some sort of SUPER-DUPER FAN who can wag your little finger at someone and call them names like "cultist" or "homer"...... and expect that person to just take it..... your are 100% out of your pea picking mind if you think I am impressed or intimidates in the least. Go live in your little fantasy world where you think you corner the market on being the ultimate NY Giants fan if you like.... I just think you are silly.

Now I am done with this thread..... Go Giants!
I'm not a super fan. I'm a Giants fan like hundreds of thousands of others. And we NEVER root against our QB. You don't understand that because you don't understand what it means to be a Giants fan. For some reason you think only "super fans" have this attitude. Well your wrong. ALL real Giants fans do.

I sure hope you have a nice weekend MS.... I will be at home reading my "How to be a real Giants Fan For Dummies" book I just purchased off of Amazon. : )
I assume you got the audio version.

lol.

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:37 AM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)
Maybe you can point out any "stance" that I've taken that would suggest that I would root against any Giant player.

im not questioning you in any way, im just making their point is all. i think its ridiculous to challenge a persons loyalty to the team (unless theyre an obvious troll) a) bc i have challenged a persons loyalty that had no business being challenged and b) my loyalty has been challenged as well (ironically by the camp who say your not a giants fan if you root for eli lol)

as i've said before, i may believe some opinions u have are incorrect, but i know your a big time giants fan.
Why would I ever challenge your loyalty? You're the ultimate team homer. If anything you where blinders and see the players through rose colored glasses.
No....none of this is aimed at you.

i should have prefaced my entry into this thread with "none of this is directed at MS". I could see how you would think i was like implying or directing these statements at you, I'm just trying to try and add clarity to their statements. i know u've never really challenged my loyalty or nothing, again, just commenting on the particular topic, not on any individual poster.
You have to understand something here. Your posts always crack me up. You have this boyish love of every player and have a tough time seeing any flaws. It reminds me of me when I was a kid. I mean I thought Pete Athas was great for God's sake. I may argue with you about some problems I have with players, but i don't have any problem with you at all. I will of course make fun of you because its what I do. Please feel free to do the same.

jax5338
07-13-2012, 11:37 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

THIS.

eli is kind of an easy target because he a doofus, for sure. but to say some people dont on here dont literally run to their computers to post about a bad throw eli made, or a pick he threw during or after a game is crazy.

he is the best, most valuable player on this team ans some have still yet to come to terms with it after years and years of bashing.

you know who you are.

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:38 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</p>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</p>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</p>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</p>

How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:40 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:43 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:43 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>
With me it was the Buffalo game in 2007. Aside from his first year, to me that was his worst game as a pro. And we won that one.

gumby742
07-13-2012, 11:44 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>


</P>


Actually, it was last year in an Andrew Luck thread. You said if Eli has a terrible year and we had the worst record in the league, you would not be adverse to drafting Andrew luck. I only remember because I agreed with you. Haha.</P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:46 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>


</P>


Actually, it was last year in an Andrew Luck thread. You said if Eli has a terrible year and we had the worst record in the league, you would not be adverse to drafting Andrew luck. I only remember because I agreed with you. Haha.</P>


</P>


I don't remember that......I must have been sober.</P>

gumby742
07-13-2012, 11:46 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:47 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>

No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:47 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass.It even happened last season when Eli was having a great year. One bad play and everything else is forgotten. </P>

gumby742
07-13-2012, 11:49 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass. </P>


</P>


I'll give you one right now. I love the guy, but Can'tBlameShockeyNow. But some can't recognize the fact that he's just trollin.</P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:50 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
</P>


Well.....he could catch cold!!!</P>

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:51 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</p>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</p>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</p>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</p>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</p>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</p>

I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:51 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass.It even happened last season when Eli was having a great year. One bad play and everything else is forgotten. </P>
Cynical FBomb today.

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 11:52 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
</p>


Well.....he could catch cold!!!</p>


</p>

LOL. Exactly. [B]
</p>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 11:52 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</p>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</p>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</p>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</p>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</p>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</p>

I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.



Precisely.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:52 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass. </P>


</P>


I'll give you one right now. I love the guy, but Can'tBlameShockeyNow. But some can't recognize the fact that he's just trollin.</P>


</P>


That guy posts nothing but pure idiocy. MUST be a Cowboys fan.</P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:55 AM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


Precisely.</P>


C'mon!!! What fun would this board be without either one?</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 12:00 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


Precisely.</P>


C'mon!!! What fun would this board be without either one?</P>
There are no such things as "haters" and "homers". They are just labels that people use that mean absolutely nothing. I prefer "objective" and "dilusional". Hahahaha!!!!!

gumby742
07-13-2012, 12:16 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>

gumby742
07-13-2012, 12:19 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass. </P>


</P>


I'll give you one right now. I love the guy, but Can'tBlameShockeyNow. But some can't recognize the fact that he's just trollin.</P>


</P>


That guy posts nothing but pure idiocy. MUST be a Cowboys fan.</P>


</P>


But his username is freaking hilarious. </P>

TrueBlue@NYC
07-13-2012, 12:35 PM
Amani Toomerlol</P>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</P>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</P>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the bestQB we've had. </P>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </P>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 01:08 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>


</P>


So, what you're saying is, you're a homer hater?</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 01:21 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>


</P>


So, what you're saying is, you're a homer hater?</P>
So called "Homers" are harmless. "Cultists" are the thought police and must be stopped.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 01:23 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>


</P>


So, what you're saying is, you're a homer hater?</P>


So called "Homers" are harmless. "Cultists" are the thought police and must be stopped.</P>


Oh....I'm all for a little anarchy when it comes to "cultists"!!!</P>

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 01:25 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int* and 3 of them went for 6.* Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me.* I let him have it.* Then he goes and wins SB MVP.* You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>

No, you didn't gloat at all.* It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.


i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop."

to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened...

claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc is not "calling eli on a bad game."

granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 01:33 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc is not "calling eli on a bad game." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


To be fair......MOST of that is just venting. You can't take it seriously. I'm pissed as hell EVERY time we lose a game. I usually try and stay off the boards until I've calmed down so I don't have to retract anything I may have said out of anger.</P>

gumby742
07-13-2012, 01:35 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
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Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>


</P>


So, what you're saying is, you're a homer hater?</P>


</P>


I like it!</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 01:37 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int* and 3 of them went for 6.* Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me.* I let him have it.* Then he goes and wins SB MVP.* You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>

No, you didn't gloat at all.* It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.


i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop."

to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened...

claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc is not "calling eli on a bad game."

granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.
Thats what fans do. When they're frustrated they go off. If we didn't care so much we wouldn't say anything.

FBomb
07-13-2012, 01:37 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
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Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>




I think we should consider that many of us who were branded haters don't have a problem with Eli per se, but we do have issues with the homers. And that is where IMO the water gets muddied.


</P>


This is really it.</P>


</P>


So, what you're saying is, you're a homer hater?</P>


</P>


I like it!</P>


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hater</P>

sharick88
07-13-2012, 01:38 PM
OK, since the SB win, our board has virtually been a love fest. One big happy family. But, if we get off to a slow start or no start at all, who will be the first fan here to crack and start trashing Eli and the team. We all know how frustrating losing is and its understandable we can lose our tempers on this board. So who will be the first to crack and how many games will it take? Yes, I expect the "you's" naturally.

Some of our fans have already cracked.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 01:48 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int* and 3 of them went for 6.* Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me.* I let him have it.* Then he goes and wins SB MVP.* You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>

No, you didn't gloat at all.* It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.


i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop."

to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened...

claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc is not "calling eli on a bad game."

granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.

+1

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 01:51 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 01:53 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 01:53 PM
Ok, I have said my piece on this thread..... I really did not intend to enter into a war of words.... or debate who is a Homer or who is a Super Fan.... or who is a Hater... blah, blah, blah.

I just simply pointed out my observation since I have been on the boards as it related to the topic of the thread...

I realize some people have been fans longer than I have.... but I promise you when the Giants take the field, I am cheering for them to win as much as anyone else on these boards. While I do like to see Eli play well, I honestly enjoy watching the defense play as much as, if not more, than the offense. When Tuck, Osi, JPP, and everyone else is playing well, it is fun to watch.

Go Giants!
You already showed your true colors with the suggestion that a Giants fan would root against our QB. You will probably root for another team once Eli has left the game. Nice try at backtracking though.

did it really not sink in? hes saying that a person rooting against their qb isnt a giants fan. some of the stances taken, have led many to believe that bc of that premise, you aren't a giants fan, however misconstrued that is. its not like he's coming up with that assertion out of nowhere...he's obviously saw stances made by posters who held stances that seemed to root against our qb, and thus, that posters fanhood is called into question.

don't play dumb. while its fairly obvious that you are a huge die hard giants fan, you do know you've held stances and points of views that have been highly questionable, not to just one or two posters, but a strong % of them...(again, however misconstrued that is)

+1

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 01:54 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

Through offerning my opinion.... now I am just agreeing with other peoples opinion.

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 01:56 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

Through offerning my opinion.... now I am just agreeing with other peoples opinion.
None of it agrees with your original claim that Giants fans would actually root against their QB in a game simply to score MB points. And thats what this is really about.

gumby742
07-13-2012, 01:59 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<U>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</U>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <U>is not "calling eli on a bad game</U>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


Hold up though. Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career. The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak. Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy. He was arguably average to above average. People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade. At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers. It was the overwhelming opinion. So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</P>

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 02:02 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<U>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</U>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <U>is not "calling eli on a bad game</U>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


Hold up though. Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career. The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak. Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy. He was arguably average to above average. People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade. At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers. It was the overwhelming opinion. So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</P>
It was before the 2007 season that our own GM called him "Skittish"

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
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That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.**They're a follower.* Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets.* Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around.** Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin.* Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,*etc everything.***And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life.* Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team.** You're as much a fan as any of the above.** And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it.* </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli.* Any move like that will be scrutinized.*So what's the problem?* </P>

I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:04 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

Through offerning my opinion.... now I am just agreeing with other peoples opinion.
None of it agrees with your original claim that Giants fans would actually root against their QB in a game simply to score MB points. And thats what this is really about.

Ok, I am a slow minded Mississippian.... so you will have to tell me.... what is a Message Board Point? And why would I want to "score" them?

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 02:08 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

Through offerning my opinion.... now I am just agreeing with other peoples opinion.
None of it agrees with your original claim that Giants fans would actually root against their QB in a game simply to score MB points. And thats what this is really about.

Ok, I am a slow minded Mississippian.... so you will have to tell me.... what is a Message Board Point? And why would I want to "score" them?
OMG!!! You ARE slow minded. Re-read the post. You have completely twisted it.

gumby742
07-13-2012, 02:09 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.They're a follower. Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets. Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around. Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin. Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,etc everything.And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life. Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team. You're as much a fan as any of the above. And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it. </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli. Any move like that will be scrutinized.So what's the problem? </P>


I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....</P>


No, but if we traded Eli away to another team, would you remain as committed a fan?That is the million dollar question. If your answer is yes, than you can be considered a fan. If the answer is no, then you're just a follower of the Giants.</P>

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:14 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.**They're a follower.* Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets.* Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around.** Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin.* Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,*etc everything.***And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life.* Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team.** You're as much a fan as any of the above.** And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it.* </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli.* Any move like that will be scrutinized.*So what's the problem?* </P>


I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....</P>


No, but if we traded Eli away to another team, would you remain as committed a fan?*That is the million dollar question.* If your answer is yes, than you can be considered a fan.* If the answer is no, then you're just a follower of the Giants.</P>

I know the answer..... but if I told you, you would dispute it.... so what's the point.

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:16 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>

+1
Didn't you say you were done with this thread?

Through offerning my opinion.... now I am just agreeing with other peoples opinion.
None of it agrees with your original claim that Giants fans would actually root against their QB in a game simply to score MB points. And thats what this is really about.

Ok, I am a slow minded Mississippian.... so you will have to tell me.... what is a Message Board Point? And why would I want to "score" them?
OMG!!! You ARE slow minded. Re-read the post. You have completely twisted it.

Your right, just reread the post... and I did get it twisted....... With that said, I think the poster who said certain people like to gloat after Eli has a bad game pretty much summed it up.....

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:16 PM
Dang, I guess I did get pulled back into this thread afterall.... ugh!

gumby742
07-13-2012, 02:22 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.They're a follower. Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets. Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around. Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin. Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,etc everything.And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life. Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team. You're as much a fan as any of the above. And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it. </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli. Any move like that will be scrutinized.So what's the problem? </P>


I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....</P>


No, but if we traded Eli away to another team, would you remain as committed a fan?That is the million dollar question. If your answer is yes, than you can be considered a fan. If the answer is no, then you're just a follower of the Giants.</P>


I know the answer..... but if I told you, you would dispute it.... so what's the point.</P>


I would dispute you telling me how you would feel? That would be a stupid as you saying that you know for fact that I /or anyone want Eli to fail. As for the answer, I told you my opinion. If you are, you are. If you aren't you aren't.</P>


Edit: Note that i said AS commited. Still following or still cheering for doesn't count. Would you still feel the same pain as before when we lose? Would you still feel the same elation when we win? If your new team played the old team - the Giants, who would you cheer for?</P>

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 02:35 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he has*a bad*game as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so"....* There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", *and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.**They're a follower.* Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets.* Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around.** Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin.* Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,*etc everything.***And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life.* Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team.** You're as much a fan as any of the above.** And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it.* </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli.* Any move like that will be scrutinized.*So what's the problem?* </P>


I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....</P>


No, but if we traded Eli away to another team, would you remain as committed a fan?*That is the million dollar question.* If your answer is yes, than you can be considered a fan.* If the answer is no, then you're just a follower of the Giants.</P>


I know the answer..... but if I told you, you would dispute it.... so what's the point.</P>


I would dispute you telling me how you would feel?* That would be a stupid as you saying that you know for fact that I /or anyone want Eli to fail.* As for the answer, I told you my opinion.** If you are, you are.* If you aren't you aren't.</P>


Edit:* Note that i said AS commited.* Still following or still cheering for doesn't count.* Would you still feel the same pain as before when we lose?* Would you still feel the same elation when we win?* If your new team played the old team - the Giants, who would you cheer for?</P>

I am facinated that you are really trying to determine who is a bigger fan.... seriously?

Lets take it a step further, I bet my dog can whoop your dog.... geez

gumby742
07-13-2012, 02:37 PM
Trust me, there are people lurking about hoping for Eli to have an off game.... just so they can spend countless hours talking about how last season was a fluke, of the defense carried the team, or Eli's receivers made him look better than he actually is.... you get the point.

come on you make it seem like some of us want eli to throw 3 picks but we still win the game.
we all want eli to do well, but if he doesnt i will admit the discussions get good on the board.


This is exactly how deep-routed this is.

The fact that there are Eli Manning fans here that think we Giant fans have some vendetta against their boy is troubling if it wasn't down right comical.
</P>


That's because there are some fans here who have proven without a shadow of doubt they root for Eli to fail. </P>


I've seen plenty of people who have been critical of Eli, myself included. I've seen some posters who just don't think he's very good. I've seen posters who think we should have drafted Ben. I've seen posters who make fun of Eli for his goofyness etc... But I've seen no evidence of a poster who is a Giants fan and roots for Eli to fail. You are living in a fantasy world where if you dare to be critical of Eli, you must by definition be rooting for him to fail.</P>


Lets just be clear, yourself and a host of others can't wait to hit the boards and slam Eli everytime he hasa badgame as a Giant.... You guys have spent countless hours debating why we should not have traded to get Eli in the first place, how much better Rivers and Ben are than Eli, and y'all even wanted to replace Eli with J-Load at one point.... So yes, you fall into the group of people who seem to derive some pleasure on these boards when Eli has a bad day.... probably because you can say "I told you so".... There are plenty of us "homers" who see it all so clearly. The funny thing to me is watching you guys jump on and off the bandwagon..... while calling us who have supported Eli his whole career "Homers", "Cultist", and other cute adjectives. </P>


This is flat out wrong. You aren't even a homer because you aren't a true giant fan. If Eli were on any other team right now, you'd be on their message boards. Not these. If anyone should come into question, it is you. No sir, you are flat out wrong..... All one has to do is read the threads dating back to draft day.... and the proof is in the pudding. And by the way, just because you may have beena Giants fan longer than me does not make you a better fan..... so you can live in your delusional little world thinking you are some sort of super fan... but it is just silly as far as I am concerned.</P>


Anyone who puts the player before the team, isn't a fan.They're a follower. Just like how Tebow fans follow the Jets. Just how I started following the Bulls when MJ was around. Just like the Knicks now have a bunch of followers because of Jeremy Lin. Heck, my asian friend's 70 year old mom knows the entire knicks roster, the rules,etc everything.And she's never watched a lick of basketball her entire life. Fact is, if Eli got traded, you would cheering for another team. You're as much a fan as any of the above. And fact is, many fans of the above mentioned teams are pretty annoyed with their new "followers' because they just don't get it. </P>


On draft day, we traded the farm to get Eli. Any move like that will be scrutinized.So what's the problem? </P>


I guess you popped out of the womb wearing a big blue diaper? C'mon, every Giants Fan became a Giants fan at some point in their life. Does not matter how it happened ...... does not matter how long a person has been a fan either..... for someone to state as fact that "you are not a true fan, or you only like one player on the team, or you would leave the team if one player left, or I am a better fan than you are" is mere speculation and you are talking out your bung hole. You don't know me, I don't know you, so how can you state anything about me as a fact? The fact is I am a huge fan of many players on the team....</P>


<U>No, but if we traded Eli away to another team, would you remain as committed a fan?</U>That is the million dollar question. If your answer is yes, than you can be considered a fan. If the answer is no, then you're just a follower of the Giants.</P>


I know the answer..... but if I told you, you would dispute it.... so what's the point.</P>


I would dispute you telling me how you would feel? That would be a stupid as you saying that you know for fact that I /or anyone want Eli to fail. As for the answer, I told you my opinion. If you are, you are. If you aren't you aren't.</P>


Edit: <U>Note that i said AS commited</U>. Still following or still cheering for doesn't count. Would you still feel the same pain as before when we lose? Would you still feel the same elation when we win? If your new team played the old team - the Giants, who would you cheer for?</P>


I am facinated that you are really trying to determine who is a bigger fan.... seriously? Lets take it a step further, I bet my dog can whoop your dog.... geez</P>


Huh? The question is whether you're a fan or not period. I don't know where you're getting this "who is a bigger fan" bit.</P>

bigjeep
07-13-2012, 02:38 PM
So...Jeepy.....in your opinion.....who cracked first?</P>


</P>


I thought it was Giggles, but I could be wrong! [B]</P>

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 02:55 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the bestQB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins. But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back. We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.

What would you expect from the fans?

rebelfan1966
07-13-2012, 03:02 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the best*QB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins.* But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back.* We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.*

What would you expect from the fans?




Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ????

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 03:18 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>

No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.


i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop."

to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened...

claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc is not "calling eli on a bad game."

granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.

For the record, I don't believe I was a member back then, just a lurker. So I was not one of these people you are talking about.

But it only makes sense that the further along in his career that his play was erratic, the more fans would jump ship. He's been an up and down player until last year.

As you may recall I got fed up with him after his 2010 season. I felt he had enough time for the game to slow down and it was time to put up. And when he got off to that ugly start I was all over him. Not because I wanted him to fail, and quite honestly not because I wanted to see Eli (the individual) succeed other than how his play would help our team.

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 04:10 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the best*QB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins.* But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back.* We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.*

What would you expect from the fans?




Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ????
Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point.

burier
07-13-2012, 04:16 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the best*QB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins.* But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back.* We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.*

What would you expect from the fans?




Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ????
Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point.

I don't remember it going down like that.

As I recall Kerry felt he was still a legit starter and wasn't interested in grooming anyone so he got outta dodge,

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 04:34 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the best*QB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins.* But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back.* We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.*

What would you expect from the fans?




Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ????
Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point.

I don't remember it going down like that.

As I recall Kerry felt he was still a legit starter and wasn't interested in grooming anyone so he got outta dodge,
Ernie told him he would be the starter but have to take a pay cut.

jomo
07-13-2012, 04:38 PM
Amani Toomerlol</P>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</P>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</P>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the bestQB we've had. </P>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </P>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins. But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back. We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.

What would you expect from the fans?


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ???? Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point. I don't remember it going down like that. As I recall Kerry felt he was still a legit starter and wasn't interested in grooming anyone so he got outta dodge, Ernie told him he would be the starter but have to take a pay cut...........which leaves us in that rare position of knowing how it all worked out. [:D]

Morehead State
07-13-2012, 04:39 PM
Amani Toomerlol</P>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</P>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</P>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the bestQB we've had. </P>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </P>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins. But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back. We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.

What would you expect from the fans?


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ???? Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point. I don't remember it going down like that. As I recall Kerry felt he was still a legit starter and wasn't interested in grooming anyone so he got outta dodge, Ernie told him he would be the starter but have to take a pay cut...........which leaves us in that rare position of knowing how it all worked out. [:D]
In fairness..he was asked to "restructure" his contract.

byron
07-13-2012, 04:43 PM
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GmenFan1980
07-13-2012, 04:48 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</P>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right".* They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</P>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</P>


Nope.....not what I said at all.* Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</P>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?*

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</P>


Don't ask me......but they still do it.* One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</P>


</P>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</P>


</P>


It isn't football season right now.* Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass. </P>


</P>


I'll give you one right now.* I love the guy, but Can'tBlameShockeyNow.* But some can't recognize the fact that he's just trollin.</P>

In my defense, I was still new to the board when I saw his post and didn't know he was just a troll lol

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 05:18 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int* and 3 of them went for 6.* Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me.* I let him have it.* Then he goes and wins SB MVP.* You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all.* It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<U>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</U>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <U>is not "calling eli on a bad game</U>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


Hold up though.* Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play for*his entire career.* The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak.* Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy.* He was arguably average to above average.* People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade.* At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers.* It was the overwhelming opinion.* So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</P>

i know right. if only eli woulda just been smarter and completely developed after two seasons instead of making us wait season after season for different areas to improve.

didnt eli know we expected peyton week 1?

im sorry, saying we got fleeced, that the minn game was the tipping point, etc is the point i try to make so often...HE WAS TWO YEARS INTO BEING A STARTING QB and had led us to two playoff births. lmfao. to feel fleeced, or to believe you actually had enough evidence to make such claims is what deserves all the backlash in the world, bc if things had ended up the way those that felt that way wanted, we'd be without 2 sbs...

gumby742
07-13-2012, 05:33 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<U>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</U>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <U>is not "calling eli on a bad game</U>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


Hold up though. Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career. The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak. Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy. He was arguably average to above average. People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade. At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers. It was the overwhelming opinion. So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</P>


i know right. if only eli woulda just been smarter and completely developed after two seasons instead of making us wait season after season for different areas to improve. didnt eli know we expected peyton week 1? im sorry, saying we got fleeced, that the minn game was the tipping point, etc is the point i try to make so often...HE WAS TWO YEARS INTO BEING A STARTING QB and had led us to two playoff births. lmfao. to feel fleeced, or to believe you actually had enough evidence to make such claims is what deserves all the backlash in the world, bc if things had ended up the way those that felt that way wanted, we'd be without 2 sbs...</P>


I don't know why you're getting defensive.</P>


Rivers was tons better than Eli was the first few years in the NFL. Eli LED us to the post season in his early years? That's nonsense. Eli was arguably average to above average. </P>


From a fans perspective, yeah we're going to feel ripped off.</P>

giantsfan420
07-13-2012, 05:46 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"*when Eli*has a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</P>


2007....Vikings....6 int* and 3 of them went for 6.* Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me.* I let him have it.* Then he goes and wins SB MVP.* You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</P>




No, you didn't gloat at all.* It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<U>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</U>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <U>is not "calling eli on a bad game</U>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</P>


Hold up though.* Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play for*his entire career.* The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak.* Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy.* He was arguably average to above average.* People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade.* At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers.* It was the overwhelming opinion.* So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</P>


i know right. if only eli woulda just been smarter and completely developed after two seasons instead of making us wait season after season for different areas to improve. didnt eli know we expected peyton week 1? im sorry, saying we got fleeced, that the minn game was the tipping point, etc is the point i try to make so often...HE WAS TWO YEARS INTO BEING A STARTING QB and had led us to two playoff births. lmfao. to feel fleeced, or to believe you actually had enough evidence to make such claims is what deserves all the backlash in the world, bc if things had ended up the way those that felt that way wanted, we'd be without 2 sbs...</P>


I don't know why you're getting defensive.</P>


Rivers was tons better than Eli was the first few years in the NFL.* Eli LED us to the post season in his early years?* That's nonsense.* Eli was arguably average to above average.* </P>


From a fans perspective, yeah we're going to feel ripped off.</P>

lol...just bc i make a post that questions your stance doesnt mean i'm "defensive"...you say that non stop when i'd would say its actually the opposite.

and anyways, make whatever excuse you want for wanting to blow the thing up, run eli out of town, claim we got bamboozled with the trade, claimed eli would never be a sb qb, claimed eli would never touch ben or rivers, etc etc...you think i dont recognize eli struggled, a whole lot, early in his career? i watched the same games you did...i wasnt ready to quit on the kid tho bc i recognized something in him. if you didnt, well thats your perogative...but dont claim it was "just calling eli out for a bad game."

MattMeyerBud
07-13-2012, 06:13 PM
Amani Toomerlol</p>


Toss up between Buddy and Harooni when Eli throws his 1st pick!</p>




Harooni doesn't care about interceptions, he only cares about Eli's looks.

[;)]
</p>


Harooni has never forgiven Eli for putting KC out of the job. It's he claims that Warner is the bestQB we've had. </p>


Actually, I think Harooni still wishes the whole Fassel regime with Shockey, Tiki and KC were all still here. </p>

I can't speak for Harooni but I think you have touched on something.

After suffering through the Dave Brown/Danny Kanell/Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox years we finally got ourselves a quarterback in Kerry Collins. But then our front office throws in the towel on our 2004 season (and the foreseeable future) by going after a franchise QB.

So this guy had target on his back. We gave up a lot in picks, and we gave up on our team that season.

What would you expect from the fans?




Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought when the Giants picked up Eli, the plan was for KC to be his mentor.... and Eli eventually stepping up into the starting position. I seem to recall KC getting upset and demanding to be released or traded ????
Thats not what happened. He was told to take a pay cut or be released. He decided to leave at that point.

I don't remember it going down like that.

As I recall Kerry felt he was still a legit starter and wasn't interested in grooming anyone so he got outta dodge,
Ernie told him he would be the starter but have to take a pay cut.

writing was on the wall

Warner was brought in to be the starter that year - how'd that work out for him

MattMeyerBud
07-13-2012, 06:22 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin When the whistle blows at the start of the game, no real Giants fan hopes Eli plays poorly. If they do, they aren't real Giants fans. If they lash out after a game out of frustration, I can't comment on that. But they don't root against their QB.</p>


Not talking about the ones that "lash out".....talking about the ones that "gloat" about being "right". They take a certain plaesure in Eli's bad games because they can come here and say "I told you so"</p>


So you are saying that you believe that real Giants fans, sit down and watch a game a root agianst Eli? If they do then they aren't Giants fans.</p>


Nope.....not what I said at all. Just saying when Eli DOES have a bad game, certain posters gloat about "being right" about Eli.</p>




How could any of them think that they are "right" about Eli after we've won two Super Bowls?

That makes no sense.

Eli got grief for his 2010 season and it was well deserved.

Eli is getting nothing but love for 2011.
</p>


Don't ask me......but they still do it. One bad pass and all the other good ones are forgotten.</p>


</p>


I can't think of a single poster, short of an obvious troll, who does that.</p>


</p>


It isn't football season right now. Wait til Eli has a bad game or throws a bad pass. </p>


</p>


I'll give you one right now. I love the guy, but Can'tBlameShockeyNow. But some can't recognize the fact that he's just trollin.</p>

In my defense, I was still new to the board when I saw his post and didn't know he was just a troll lol

i agree

only person I know that does this is burier about Justin Tuck

and me about Gerris Wilkinson

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 07:02 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<u>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</u>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <u>is not "calling eli on a bad game</u>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</p>


Hold up though. Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career. The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak. Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy. He was arguably average to above average. People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade. At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers. It was the overwhelming opinion. So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</p>


i know right. if only eli woulda just been smarter and completely developed after two seasons instead of making us wait season after season for different areas to improve. didnt eli know we expected peyton week 1? im sorry, saying we got fleeced, that the minn game was the tipping point, etc is the point i try to make so often...HE WAS TWO YEARS INTO BEING A STARTING QB and had led us to two playoff births. lmfao. to feel fleeced, or to believe you actually had enough evidence to make such claims is what deserves all the backlash in the world, bc if things had ended up the way those that felt that way wanted, we'd be without 2 sbs...</p>


I don't know why you're getting defensive.</p>


Rivers was tons better than Eli was the first few years in the NFL. Eli LED us to the post season in his early years? That's nonsense. Eli was arguably average to above average. </p>


From a fans perspective, yeah we're going to feel ripped off.</p>

lol...just bc i make a post that questions your stance doesnt mean i'm "defensive"...you say that non stop when i'd would say its actually the opposite.

and anyways, make whatever excuse you want for wanting to blow the thing up, run eli out of town, claim we got bamboozled with the trade, claimed eli would never be a sb qb, claimed eli would never touch ben or rivers, etc etc...you think i dont recognize eli struggled, a whole lot, early in his career? i watched the same games you did...i wasnt ready to quit on the kid tho bc i recognized something in him. if you didnt, well thats your perogative...but dont claim it was "just calling eli out for a bad game."

He didn't. He said: Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career.

And again, if you compare Eli (years ago) to Rivers and Ben then yes, the deal looked bad for us. So to question the deal was really not out of line.

Look at the Jets and Sanchez. He's going through something similar right now and his QB rating was higher than Eli's at the same point in Eli's career. Plus, the kid took his team to 2 conference championships in 3 years. So what does that tell you? Maybe that NY is tough on QB's, or everyone likes picking on poor Eli?

bigjeep
07-13-2012, 08:13 PM
What have I done! [U]

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 09:46 PM
What have I done! [U]

This is your best thread ever. [;)]

Roosevelt
07-13-2012, 09:46 PM
What have I done! [U]

This is your best thread ever. [;)]

FBomb
07-13-2012, 09:50 PM
What have I done! [U]

This is your best thread ever. [;)]
</P>


</P>


[Y]</P>

appodictic
07-13-2012, 10:33 PM
THe first one to crack will be me if we lose to the redskins.

ShakeNBake
07-13-2012, 10:43 PM
In MY Humble Opinion....( I know everyone has been waitng for this)[:)]........While I don't believe that any true Giants fan "roots against" Eli...... there ARE some (not saying YOU MS) who take pleasure or "gloat" about being "right"when Elihas a bad game.....just sayin

I seem to recollect a time when good ole Fbomb had thrown in the towel on Eli, and if the towel had not actually left your hand, it was very very close.

And rightly so I might add...
</p>


2007....Vikings....6 int and 3 of them went for 6. Trust me...there was no "gloating" going on for me. I let him have it. Then he goes and wins SB MVP. You may all thank me..... one at a time please.[:)]</p>




No, you didn't gloat at all. It was just pure frustration that we all (or most of us) felt.

So now contrast our thoughts with that of a homer making excuses and throwing everyone and anyone under the bus to try to take the heat off Eli.

I mean, I remember the homers throwing John Mara under the bus for forcing Eli to play in an outdoor stadium.

WTF man.
i remember it differently. i remember afterpeformances like the vikings "pick 6" game, that afterwards there were plenty of people talking about blowing up the team, getting rid of eli, claiming we got duped, posters creating threads centered around "how we could have had 3 probowlers and rivers instead of eli"...and then there were those who went "<u>calm down. be patient. eli is an awesome qb</u>, he is gonna be one of the best one day. let him develop." to say that at such a turbulent time led to a lot of backlash at eli and those who werent ready to give up on eli....dont twist this into a "hey i was just calling eli on a bad game." bc that IS NOT what happened... claiming we got duped, we should have never made the trade, eli will never win a sb, etc etc etc <u>is not "calling eli on a bad game</u>." granted, this happened so long ago that many will have revisionist history, but thats only bc eli ended up making those who stood behind him, werent ready to pull the plug, and didnt destroy him for the mistakes look really smart...lol "i was just calling eli on a bad game..." yeah maybe the past season or so, back when things werent defined, it was a majority who wanted eli gone or wished we never traded for him.</p>


Hold up though. Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career. The Vikings game was just the tipping point that caused the dam to burst so to speak. Not to take your comment literally, but anyone who thought Eli was a great QB prior to 2007 was just crazy. He was arguably average to above average. People had every right to gripe about getting fleeced by San Diego in a trade. At that point in their careers, Eli was clearly the inferior QB to Rivers. It was the overwhelming opinion. So any of those posts or view points were definitely valid - at that point in time.</p>


i know right. if only eli woulda just been smarter and completely developed after two seasons instead of making us wait season after season for different areas to improve. didnt eli know we expected peyton week 1? im sorry, saying we got fleeced, that the minn game was the tipping point, etc is the point i try to make so often...HE WAS TWO YEARS INTO BEING A STARTING QB and had led us to two playoff births. lmfao. to feel fleeced, or to believe you actually had enough evidence to make such claims is what deserves all the backlash in the world, bc if things had ended up the way those that felt that way wanted, we'd be without 2 sbs...</p>


I don't know why you're getting defensive.</p>


Rivers was tons better than Eli was the first few years in the NFL. Eli LED us to the post season in his early years? That's nonsense. Eli was arguably average to above average. </p>


From a fans perspective, yeah we're going to feel ripped off.</p>

lol...just bc i make a post that questions your stance doesnt mean i'm "defensive"...you say that non stop when i'd would say its actually the opposite.

and anyways, make whatever excuse you want for wanting to blow the thing up, run eli out of town, claim we got bamboozled with the trade, claimed eli would never be a sb qb, claimed eli would never touch ben or rivers, etc etc...you think i dont recognize eli struggled, a whole lot, early in his career? i watched the same games you did...i wasnt ready to quit on the kid tho bc i recognized something in him. if you didnt, well thats your perogative...but dont claim it was "just calling eli out for a bad game."

He didn't. He said: Those comments were made on a culmination of Eli's play forhis entire career.

And again, if you compare Eli (years ago) to Rivers and Ben then yes, the deal looked bad for us. So to question the deal was really not out of line.

Look at the Jets and Sanchez. He's going through something similar right now and his QB rating was higher than Eli's at the same point in Eli's career. Plus, the kid took his team to 2 conference championships in 3 years. So what does that tell you? Maybe that NY is tough on QB's, or everyone likes picking on poor Eli?


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