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RoanokeFan
07-13-2012, 07:31 PM
NFL RUMORS: WILL GIANTS SIGN VICTOR CRUZ TO A NEW CONTRACT? (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/nfl_rumors_will_new_york_giants_sign_victor_cruz_t o_a_new_contract/11215561)

"One of the more intriguing NFL rumors (http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/rumors/) to surface recently surrounds
wide receiver Victor Cruz, and the
<a href="http://www.rantsports.com/new-york-giants/" target="_blank">New
York Giants</a>. Cruz virtually came out of nowhere last season and
had one of the best seasons ever for a Giants wide receiver. The twenty-five
year-old receiver from Paterson, NJ caught 82 passes for 1,536 yards and 9 TDís
in his first year as a Giants starter. He entered the year as the teamís fourth
receiver behind Hakeem Nicks,
Mario Manningham, and Domenik Hixon. However, an ACL injury to
Hixon in Week 2 against the <a href="http://www.rantsports.com/st-louis-rams/" target="_blank">St.
Louis Rams</a> thrust Cruz into a more prominent role and he did not
shy away.


Cruz is entering the final year of his
contract that will pay him $500,000 this year before he become an unrestricted
free agent. However, Cruz is not stressing a new deal. He has complete
confidence that his agent, Malik
Shareef, will be able to negotiate a fair deal with GM Jerry Reese. Reese stated earlier in the
offseason that he would like to sign Cruz to a new, long-term contract but that
it would not be a priority. Cruz, meanwhile, has not threatened to hold out if
a deal isnít done, nor has he been vocal about his contract at all.</p>


Cruz, while Iím sure he would like the <a id="itxthook0" class="itxtrst itxtrsta itxthook" rel="nofollow"><span id="itxthook0w0" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan">financial</span></a>
security, has run counter to what most of his peers in the NFL do in similar
situations. Instead of complaining to anyone who will listen, being coy, or
threatening to hold out, Cruz has answered all contract questions the same way,
telling them he is letting his agent handle the negotiations.</p>


Cruzís unflappable demeanor on and off the
field has endeared him to Giants fans and Giants coaches alike. Whether it is
doing a salsa dance on a stage somewhere, staying cool with the <a id="itxthook1" class="itxtrst itxtrsta itxthook" rel="nofollow"><span id="itxthook1w0" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan">media</span></a>, or
scoring a winning touchdown, Cruz remains the same.</p>


The Giants might be waiting to see how
Cruz performs in the beginning of this season before hammering out a contract.
This is a risk for both Cruz and the Giants. If Cruz gets off to an even better
start than last season he can demand more <a id="itxthook2" class="itxtrst itxtrsta itxthook" rel="nofollow"><span id="itxthook2w0" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxthookspan">money</span></a>. If he
starts off slowly, the Giants can offer him less. That is the business of the
NFL and all sports but I donít think there is anyway the Giants allow him to
play out the whole season before getting him locked-up long-term to a pretty
attractive deal that makes sense for both sides."</p>

FBomb
07-13-2012, 11:01 PM
A man of character. </P>

BigBlue1971
07-13-2012, 11:16 PM
i think Cruz will be better than last year. i havent seen anyone cover him yet! </P>


lock 'em up!</P>

Rat_bastich
07-13-2012, 11:34 PM
Pay the man! I don't mind spending the Giants' money on someone who deserves it. The guy showed a glimpse of what he could do the preseason before last and he showed what he could do during the last season.

I don't think there is any way he can match last season because overall I think the numbers will come down for everyone but he doesn't need those numbers if the ball is getting around to all the receivers, backs and tight ends.

Plus, the guy has said all the right things and is a character guy.

JJC7301
07-14-2012, 01:59 AM
I'd love to sign Cruz long term -- there is no way that 1,500 yards in just your 1st full season is a fluke. Maybe 800 or 900 yards, but not 1,500. No way.

redbeardxxv
07-14-2012, 04:30 AM
I think Cruz will start off slow this year. Nick's injury will take a little bit away from his play for the first few games, and Cruz will see doubles EVERY game. Once Nicks is going full speed, it'll even out some. I still think he'll have a great year, I just think it'll start slow. The Giants will offer him a fair deal, and he'll take it. Cruz will retire in Blue-he has that mindset and loyalty.

Captain Chaos
07-14-2012, 06:10 AM
I don't think that he will do what he did last year, but look if he gets 1000 yards would anyone on these boards complain. Think we will see more of what happened in the post season when he was no surprise, of course Nicks was the benefitiary of that. What ever happens it will be fun to watch.

fletch842
07-14-2012, 08:35 AM
I don't think that he will do what he did last year, but look if he gets 1000 yards would anyone on these boards complain. Think we will see more of what happened in the post season when he was no surprise, of course Nicks was the benefitiary of that. What ever happens it will be fun to watch.
I agree, if he maintains a 1000 yd season, it will be very good. That is still the measuring stick.

Diamondring
07-14-2012, 09:38 AM
Back in the day of my GWAT, I used a lot of my knowledge of sets to make me a real good poster. Sets are very important to all players no matter if it is defense or offense. I think that the players on offense helped Cruz out just as well he helped them out. If some of the players didn't catch a good amount of balls, then Cruz's production could have slipped some. I say what the Giants need to do is wait for one more year and see how well the other players develope. I also think that Cruz should be right with them. Yet Cruz may want to get that big money and if he keeps up the big production say about 1,023 yards or more, then he should get that big money. The more yards and tds he gets, the more money. Yet be known that the money needs to be distributed cause Reese and his staff are good at getting good quality players so when those players start to shine, then the other good players should get a slice of the pie.

bigjeep
07-14-2012, 10:27 AM
A man of character.* </P>

Thats why I can relate to cruz! Rare these days!

FBomb
07-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Back in the day of my GWAT, I used a lot of my knowledge of sets to make me a real good poster. Sets are very important to all players no matter if it is defense or offense. I think that the players on offense helped Cruz out just as well he helped them out. If some of the players didn't catch a good amount of balls, then Cruz's production could have slipped some. I say what the Giants need to do is wait for one more year and see how well the other players develope. I also think that Cruz should be right with them. Yet Cruz may want to get that big money and if he keeps up the big production say about 1,023 yards or more, then he should get that big money. The more yards and tds he gets, the more money. Yet be known that the money needs to be distributed cause Reese and his staff are good at getting good quality players so when those players start to shine, then the other good players should get a slice of the pie.</P>


I've said it before and I will say it again............</P>


BRING BACK THE GWAT!!!!!</P>

RoanokeFan
07-14-2012, 10:54 AM
A man of character. </p>

In stark contrast to what seems to becoming the norm

miked1958
07-14-2012, 10:56 AM
I think Cruz will start off slow this year. Nick's injury will take a little bit away from his play for the first few games, and Cruz will see doubles EVERY game. Once Nicks is going full speed, it'll even out some. I still think he'll have a great year, I just think it'll start slow. The Giants will offer him a fair deal, and he'll take it. Cruz will retire in Blue-he has that mindset and loyalty.Those doubles will allow for the 3rd WR (whoever that might be) to come up big for us and become another breakout star

miked1958
07-14-2012, 11:01 AM
Better pay him, sooner rather then later. Keep the guy happy and loyal.


Also we have to deal with Nick contract the following year, so the sooner they get him locked in the better. If they let it get to far into the season and he is putting up big numbers again the price will surely be driven up. Right now the giants have some leverage. He is a still new WR.. And can't be considered among the LFs, CJs of the NFL yet. So they could lock him up for say 5-7 yrs at a really good value. They wait and he blows up the league then we for sure won't be able to sign them both

RoanokeFan
07-14-2012, 11:02 AM
Back in the day of my GWAT, I used a lot of my knowledge of sets to make me a real good poster. Sets are very important to all players no matter if it is defense or offense. I think that the players on offense helped Cruz out just as well he helped them out. If some of the players didn't catch a good amount of balls, then Cruz's production could have slipped some. I say what the Giants need to do is wait for one more year and see how well the other players develope. I also think that Cruz should be right with them. Yet Cruz may want to get that big money and if he keeps up the big production say about 1,023 yards or more, then he should get that big money. The more yards and tds he gets, the more money. Yet be known that the money needs to be distributed cause Reese and his staff are good at getting good quality players so when those players start to shine, then the other good players should get a slice of the pie.

It has always been a team effort, no question. However, when Nicks or Cruz, for example, make a spectacular down field catch it's all on them at that point. Some players just play at a consistently high level and are in positions where they make an obvious difference. Cruz's 99 yard TD is an example. He caught the ball with the help of 10 other guys on offense who blocked, ran routes, threw the ball, etc. But eluding the defenders and out running them was all Cruz.

He is in the last year of his contract and the GIANTS like to extend play makers rather than get into a free agent situation.

I think they will make their offer by mid-season.

RoanokeFan
07-14-2012, 11:04 AM
I think Cruz will start off slow this year. Nick's injury will take a little bit away from his play for the first few games, and Cruz will see doubles EVERY game. Once Nicks is going full speed, it'll even out some. I still think he'll have a great year, I just think it'll start slow. The Giants will offer him a fair deal, and he'll take it. Cruz will retire in Blue-he has that mindset and loyalty.Those doubles will allow for the 3rd WR (whoever that might be) to come up big for us and become another breakout star

Or it shows the defenders you just can't "make them throw it to Manningham" and survive.

Diamondring
07-14-2012, 11:11 AM
Back in the day of my GWAT, I used a lot of my knowledge of sets to make me a real good poster. Sets are very important to all players no matter if it is defense or offense. I think that the players on offense helped Cruz out just as well he helped them out. If some of the players didn't catch a good amount of balls, then Cruz's production could have slipped some. I say what the Giants need to do is wait for one more year and see how well the other players develope. I also think that Cruz should be right with them. Yet Cruz may want to get that big money and if he keeps up the big production say about 1,023 yards or more, then he should get that big money. The more yards and tds he gets, the more money. Yet be known that the money needs to be distributed cause Reese and his staff are good at getting good quality players so when those players start to shine, then the other good players should get a slice of the pie.

It has always been a team effort, no question.** However, when Nicks or Cruz, for example, make a spectacular down field catch it's all on them at that point.* Some players just play at a consistently high level and are in positions where they make an obvious difference.* Cruz's 99 yard TD is an example.* He caught the ball with the help of 10 other guys on offense who blocked, ran routes, threw the ball, etc. * But eluding the defenders and out running them was all Cruz.

He is in the last year of his contract and the GIANTS like to extend play makers rather than get into a free agent situation.

I think they will make their offer by mid-season. *
That is right and that is why I talk about Cruz getting that big payment if he can dumplicate his production. That would show that he is a real good player and not a one year wonder. I also say he should at least be another 1,000 yard receiver. I would even say even be close to 1,000 yard receiver. If he can do that, then that means he is a real good player. Yet we still have to look at the other receivers to see where Cruz stands.

Toadofsteel
07-14-2012, 11:27 AM
A man of character.* </P>

I think this is largely due to his upbringing in Paterson, as well as the way he entered the league (as a UDFA). He had to earn his way in, and he knows the value of hard work. He never got treated like royalty the way some other players have, and as such he's much more mature of a person (not to mention a player) because of it.

It's kind of like how you see people that are wealthy: Those that earned their wealth are generally still down-to-earth people, but the ones raised on wealth tend to be a bit petulant...