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Eliscruzzz
07-25-2012, 12:15 AM
This is simply idiotic and simply not true Hakeem Nicks is better then Dez Bryant

titwio
07-25-2012, 12:26 AM
Dez is physically gifted there's no denying that but...mental preparation is just as important as if not more than talent. Dez still doesn't know all of the routes in Dallas's playbook and he's not helping himself off the filed either.

Skip is a known Cowboy lover and he talks up Tony Romo every offseason. This is just more him promoting them for the offseason championship they win every year.

Eliscruzzz
07-25-2012, 12:36 AM
Dez is physically gifted there's no denying that but...mental preparation is just as important as if not more than talent. Dez still doesn't know all of the routes in Dallas's playbook and he's not helping himself off the filed either.

Skip is a known Cowboy lover and he talks up Tony Romo every offseason. This is just more him promoting them for the offseason championship they win every year.Very true skip rides the Cowboys **** every year it's sickening and I can't take anything this guys says seriously for the fact that he would take Tim Tebow over Rodgers if he had to win a game.

gmen0820
07-25-2012, 02:15 AM
If he completely cleans up, he will be a 1400+ yard receiver in the future. Super talented.

flamethrower
07-25-2012, 03:10 AM
Bayless is a moron. Nuff said. As long as Tebow is playing for an AFC team. His Super Bowl Pics are easy. Tebow's team vs Arlington Cowturds. And, yes I said Arlington. The Cowturds play in Arlington Texas. Located in Tarrant County. They have nothing to do with Dallas.
I already covered Stadium location. Official Ticket Phone # is an 817 area code. Tarrant county again. Practice Facility, and Corporate Offices Valley Ranch in Irving Texas. And, I happen to live in Arlington Texas.

NYGFaninILL
07-26-2012, 01:03 AM
If he cleans up his act and trains really hard he could be. He said Calvin Johnson, not Jerry Rice

sharick88
07-26-2012, 02:41 AM
Dez Bryant's mother is skip's dealer. Everyone knows that.

rxc999
07-26-2012, 09:58 AM
Skip is moron and idiot..he's romo cowboys...and brady sucker....

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 10:50 AM
It's funny how quickly some of you forget that Skip Bayless was one of the biggest Cowboys bashers just a few years ago, and has been for the majority of his career.

Skip Bayless just says things to shock people.

And, why so shocked? IF Dez Bryant ever reaches his full potential, I don't see why he wouldn't be as good as Calvin Johnson.

sharick88
07-26-2012, 12:55 PM
It's funny how quickly some of you forget that Skip Bayless was one of the biggest Cowboys bashers just a few years ago, and has been for the majority of his career.

Skip Bayless just says things to shock people.

And, why so shocked? IF Dez Bryant ever reaches his full potential, I don't see why he wouldn't be as good as Calvin Johnson.

He has picked Dallas to win the NFC East every year since 2006 and he has wet dreams about Tony Romo. I am giong to go out on a limb and say that he is a huge cowboys backer. He only rips them when they make him look like a jackass

Toadofsteel
07-26-2012, 01:00 PM
Bayless is a moron. Nuff said. As long as Tebow is playing for an AFC team. His Super Bowl Pics are easy. Tebow's team vs Arlington Cowturds. And, yes I said Arlington. The Cowturds play in Arlington Texas. Located in Tarrant County. They have nothing to do with Dallas.
I already covered Stadium location. Official Ticket Phone # is an 817 area code. Tarrant county again. Practice Facility, and Corporate Offices Valley Ranch in Irving Texas. And, I happen to live in Arlington Texas.

That's not the go-to argument you'd want to make... cowboys would just respond that the Giants play in a completely different state...

ELITEGIANTS0711
07-26-2012, 01:11 PM
This is simply idiotic and simply not true Hakeem Nicks is better then Dez Bryant

dez has talent, he won't be in calvin class

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 01:59 PM
He has picked Dallas to win the NFC East every year since 2006 and he has wet dreams about Tony Romo. I am giong to go out on a limb and say that he is a huge cowboys backer. He only rips them when they make him look like a jackass

Believe me I used to hate Skip. I can't recall 2006, but he picked the Giants to win the division in 2007. I remember him saying they were a better team at 6-2 than the Cowboys were at 7-1 and they would eventually over take them. Granted, most of his hatred was fueled by T.O. (who he nicknamed team obliderator), and he also claimed that 'Lil' Tony Romeo' was vastly overrated... yada yada yada.

He's the same guy that was a columnist here in Dallas and insinuated that Aikman was gay. Skip is through and through and OKC guy. Anyone from the area knows that there is no love between TX and OK.

Skip just says things to shock people. He flip flops.

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 02:02 PM
That's not the go-to argument you'd want to make... cowboys would just respond that the Giants play in a completely different state...

He's not a Giants fan... Houston if I remember correctly.

Almost every thread he posts in that's Cowboys related he brings this up, always failing to realize that the Cowboy's roots are in Dallas.

sharick88
07-26-2012, 02:36 PM
Believe me I used to hate Skip. I can't recall 2006, but he picked the Giants to win the division in 2007. I remember him saying they were a better team at 6-2 than the Cowboys were at 7-1 and they would eventually over take them. Granted, most of his hatred was fueled by T.O. (who he nicknamed team obliderator), and he also claimed that 'Lil' Tony Romeo' was vastly overrated... yada yada yada.

He's the same guy that was a columnist here in Dallas and insinuated that Aikman was gay. Skip is through and through and OKC guy. Anyone from the area knows that there is no love between TX and OK.

Skip just says things to shock people. He flip flops.

Trust me. He did not pick the giants to win a division, ever. If he did, we would not be here today as the world would have ended minutes after he did it. I know that he says things to get rises out of people on purpose. I just know that he is a cowboys' honk as well. He probably rips individual players on the team, but he picks them as a whole to win the NFC East every single year.

Imgrate
07-26-2012, 06:37 PM
Dez Bryant is nowhere near the athlete that Calvin is. Not even close. Because of this he will never match Calvin. Calvin is more talented and has more natural athletic ability. On top of this, he has actually produced at an elite level.

miked1958
07-26-2012, 06:55 PM
It's funny how quickly some of you forget that Skip Bayless was one of the biggest Cowboys bashers just a few years ago, and has been for the majority of his career.Skip Bayless just says things to shock people.And, why so shocked? IF Dez Bryant ever reaches his full potential, I don't see why he wouldn't be as good as Calvin Johnson.I watched him a lot last year. He is a Dallas butt kisser. Not a fan of there's but was picking them to win the division right up till the giants eliminated them. Picked them even after the giants first win over Dallas

miked1958
07-26-2012, 06:57 PM
He's not a Giants fan... Houston if I remember correctly.Almost every thread he posts in that's Cowboys related he brings this up, always failing to realize that the Cowboy's roots are in Dallas.Hey Ntegrase96. What do you think of these new MBs? Still trying to get used to them myself. But nice!

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 07:07 PM
I watched him a lot last year. He is a Dallas butt kisser. Not a fan of there's but was picking them to win the division right up till the giants eliminated them. Picked them even after the giants first win over Dallas

I believe he's picked them for the last 3 years after T.O. left. No denying that... maybe not in 2010, I'm not really sure. He stuck with them last year even when the ship started to sink after the Murray injury, but he was reluctant to pick them in the season finale. He was conflicted but stuck to his pre season prediction.




Hey Ntegrase96. What do you think of these new MBs? Still trying to get used to them myself. But nice!

Pretty nice! The non-official Cowboys Forum I post on is going through a similar change and I hope those baords turn out this well. Graphics look awesome, I like the profile features and overall cleanliness and simplicity. Had a bit of snag getting my pw, but Mod C was pretty quick with his responses and got me squared away pretty quickly.

ELIte4MVP
07-26-2012, 07:14 PM
It depends on the context that he said it in. IF Dez could get his ish together, and learn from all of his mistakes, and reaches his maximum talent level, he could put up Calvin Johnson type numbers. However, i see him as a completely different style player than Calvin, as in he would reach those numbers in a different fashion.

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 07:19 PM
Dez Bryant is nowhere near the athlete that Calvin is. Not even close. Because of this he will never match Calvin. Calvin is more talented and has more natural athletic ability. On top of this, he has actually produced at an elite level.

Larry Fitzgerald is also nowhere near the physical specimen Calvin Johnson is either but should is still right there with him (I consider him better). You don't need to be 6'5" 235 with 4.3 speed to be the best.

Dez Bryant is closer to the Fitzgerald mold (with a tad more speed). Bryant has great body control and a real nose for the ball. Both he and Calvin are very 'air dominant', but I'd say Bryant has better hands at this point in his career than Calvin did... probably even still.

Yes, Johnson has produced at an elite level, but Skip is talking about projections for the future-- not judging them on their respective careers as of today.

Of course, for Bryant to reach Meagtron's level he's going to have to put it together with preparations. And despite his recent arrest, he's actually been doing just that.

Ntegrase96
07-26-2012, 07:24 PM
It depends on the context that he said it in. IF Dez could get his ish together, and learn from all of his mistakes, and reaches his maximum talent level, he could put up Calvin Johnson type numbers. However, i see him as a completely different style player than Calvin, as in he would reach those numbers in a different fashion.

Exactly.

In some regard, they are similar (jump ball play-making ability), but I don't think Skip is saying Bryant will be like Megatron-- but he could definitely produce like him if he puts it all together. The kid has a really good skill set.

ELIte4MVP
07-26-2012, 07:31 PM
Exactly.

In some regard, they are similar (jump ball play-making ability), but I don't think Skip is saying Bryant will be like Megatron-- but he could definitely produce like him if he puts it all together. The kid has a really good skill set.

Dez definitely can get up and snag the ball at its highest point, like Johnson, but Dez, along with most NFL WR's, is not in the same mold as Johnson in the aspect that you can just throw the ball up and most likely Johnson will come down with it. Thats what sets Johnson apart from every other NFL WR imo. Dez is extremely talented, and has an extremely high ceiling. They have comparisons, but are mostly different in that regard

Imgrate
07-26-2012, 08:04 PM
Larry Fitzgerald is also nowhere near the physical specimen Calvin Johnson is either but should is still right there with him (I consider him better). You don't need to be 6'5" 235 with 4.3 speed to be the best. Dez Bryant is closer to the Fitzgerald mold (with a tad more speed). Bryant has great body control and a real nose for the ball. Both he and Calvin are very 'air dominant', but I'd say Bryant has better hands at this point in his career than Calvin did... probably even still.Yes, Johnson has produced at an elite level, but Skip is talking about projections for the future-- not judging them on their respective careers as of today.Of course, for Bryant to reach Meagtron's level he's going to have to put it together with preparations. And despite his recent arrest, he's actually been doing just that. At virtually every position in the NFL, the best player is in the top percentile of size and speed. If you want to be the best you have to be the best athlete and work the hardest. Dez cannot ever be the athlete that Calvin is and it is highly unlikely that he will ever work as hard as Calvin has.

JPP
07-26-2012, 11:23 PM
Larry Fitzgerald is also nowhere near the physical specimen Calvin Johnson is either but should is still right there with him (I consider him better). You don't need to be 6'5" 235 with 4.3 speed to be the best.

Dez Bryant is closer to the Fitzgerald mold (with a tad more speed). Bryant has great body control and a real nose for the ball. Both he and Calvin are very 'air dominant', but I'd say Bryant has better hands at this point in his career than Calvin did... probably even still.

Yes, Johnson has produced at an elite level, but Skip is talking about projections for the future-- not judging them on their respective careers as of today.

Of course, for Bryant to reach Meagtron's level he's going to have to put it together with preparations. And despite his recent arrest, he's actually been doing just that.

I think that is the point most people are trying to make it is not just that Calvin is a good receiver and so is Dez it is that Calvin also has the incredible body structure to go with it. So maybe Dez will put up a couple good seasons like Johnson but "the next Calvin Johnson" he will never be. In the same way that many teams will draft big 6'5" WRs that will never have the skills of a Calvin Johnson.

But yes Bryant is a very good athlete and has burned us good a few times with his speed and jumping ability. I would still take Nicks over him though but I guess I get to see a lot more of Hakeem, he is at a different point in his career as well, but I just love the way he plays.

Eliscruzzz
07-27-2012, 02:45 PM
It's funny how quickly some of you forget that Skip Bayless was one of the biggest Cowboys bashers just a few years ago, and has been for the majority of his career.

Skip Bayless just says things to shock people.

And, why so shocked? IF Dez Bryant ever reaches his full potential, I don't see why he wouldn't be as good as Calvin Johnson. potential, potential I think he is overrated and I meant that It's just wrong to caompare him to calvin johnson at Dez's "potential" at best he is Brandon Marshall if he reaches it Calvin Johnson I think not buddy and yes Skip Bayless is a Cowboy lover he picks them EVERY YEAR TO WIN THE NFC EAST!!!

Eliscruzzz
07-27-2012, 02:51 PM
I believe he's picked them for the last 3 years after T.O. left. No denying that... maybe not in 2010, I'm not really sure. He stuck with them last year even when the ship started to sink after the Murray injury, but he was reluctant to pick them in the season finale. He was conflicted but stuck to his pre season prediction. WHAT he picks them 3 years in a row and he's not an *** kisser come on man think about what your saying?





Pretty nice! The non-official Cowboys Forum I post on is going through a similar change and I hope those baords turn out this well. Graphics look awesome, I like the profile features and overall cleanliness and simplicity. Had a bit of snag getting my pw, but Mod C was pretty quick with his responses and got me squared away pretty quickly. WHAT? he picked them the last 3 seasons and also says they are going to go to the SB this year, and he's not an *** kisser.

Ntegrase96
07-27-2012, 04:01 PM
WHAT? he picked them the last 3 seasons and also says they are going to go to the SB this year, and he's not an *** kisser.

Admittedly I wasn't aware that he picked them to go to the superbowl this year... Link? But In the grand scheme of things still the answer is 'no'.

Skip Bayless was a columnist here in from the 70s to early 90s. Unlike you, I was familiar with him before Cold Pizza/First Take/1st and 10. He wasn't a cheerleader for the Boys, and in fact was mostly critical. Even when he was brought aboard for 1st and 10, he didn't bow down to the Cowboys until 2009.

The reason? Because the Cowboys became the unpopular pick around 2009. Skip just says things to get a rise out of people.

Fuhgeddaboutit
07-27-2012, 04:02 PM
It keeps people watching when they are asshats like that.

Look at that guy Smith or whatever his name is. Never watched him before, and although I find him insulting and pretty wrong half the time, he is hilarious.

Both of them are just always fighting each other and that's what makes people watch.

Ntegrase96
07-27-2012, 04:06 PM
potential, potential I think he is overrated and I meant that It's just wrong to caompare him to calvin johnson at Dez's "potential" at best he is Brandon Marshall if he reaches it Calvin Johnson I think not buddy and yes Skip Bayless is a Cowboy lover he picks them EVERY YEAR TO WIN THE NFC EAST!!!

Hey that's fine. That's your opinion (although Brandon Marshall is slower and his hands are nowhere as close to as good as Bryant's). Both Megatron and Bryant can make plays that few others can, so discussing potential is perfectly rational when discussing the future.

Eliscruzzz
07-27-2012, 08:29 PM
Admittedly I wasn't aware that he picked them to go to the superbowl this year... Link? But In the grand scheme of things still the answer is 'no'.

Skip Bayless was a columnist here in from the 70s to early 90s. Unlike you, I was familiar with him before Cold Pizza/First Take/1st and 10. He wasn't a cheerleader for the Boys, and in fact was mostly critical. Even when he was brought aboard for 1st and 10, he didn't bow down to the Cowboys until 2009.

The reason? Because the Cowboys became the unpopular pick around 2009. Skip just says things to get a rise out of people. Sorry to tell you but I 've watched him since the cold pizza days too and the Cowboys really sucked then he couldn't make that statement and believe it to be true and I will get you the site and It doesn't matter if pick someone to get a rise outta people even more of a reason it's considered *** kissing.

Eliscruzzz
07-27-2012, 08:33 PM
Hey that's fine. That's your opinion (although Brandon Marshall is slower and his hands are nowhere as close to as good as Bryant's). Both Megatron and Bryant can make plays that few others can, so discussing potential is perfectly rational when discussing the future. I agree that comparing potential is rational when you are comparing similar talents but I think Calvin Johnson is in a league of his own. I've seen that Cowboys game a lot on youtube and when you beating triple and double teams all the time you are in a class of your own no one should be compared to him.