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hungrrrry
08-04-2012, 08:12 PM
If you practice sloppy you play sloppy!

-Wilson should practice as if he is in the Superbowl every day...thats what builds toughness and a champion, not practicing and playing to avoid injury. The typical union mentality..."don't kill yourself"...which is true if you want to keep a job. If you want to be a champion, the best ever at what you do then you will move heaven and hell just to accomplish a single milestone...you will sacrifice yourself, life and limb just to move on to the next thing. No winner wants to sell themselves short, leave plays on the field, give up when they could have made a diving catch, run out at the one when they might have driven through the defender for the TD...

...Winners do what they have to to win, not get close!

Bradshaw is out of line for ever suggesting that a teammate not be "ALL IN!!!"

-You condition yourself to prevent injury so you can practice and play hard without the thought of injury entering your mind. The union mentality says, "take it easy"..."don't beat yourself up too much"..."you don't have to show too much", and thats bull ****!!! You do... and I think that is what Bradshaw is afraid of.

D. Wilson....I expect you to break your arm off for the starting position at RB for this team...I expect you to do everything possible to be the best at what you do...that is what you are here for...not only that, to be the best, you need to love what you have to do to, BE THE BEST!

Ballllinnnnnnn
08-04-2012, 08:22 PM
Personally i dont know how you take this point of view from what AB said. To me he was talking about hitting the hole straight then using his jukes after he gets by the lbs.

Drez
08-04-2012, 08:24 PM
What in god's name are you talking about, man?

Bradshaw is totally taking Wilson under his wing and showing him how to be a successful pro.

If you're referring to AB telling Wilson to cut back on the juking an deeking and all that, he needs to hear that. From what I've read, Wilson was doing those things when not necessary. He's in no way saying, "Don't try and do the best you can and give all you can." He's just saying play smarter, not harder (where harder translates into less efficiently).

RoanokeFan
08-04-2012, 08:26 PM
If I were the suspicious type, I might agree. For the time being I prefer to think Bradshaw is using his feet problems to explain to Wilson the benefits of playing smarter. The headline on a piece, in the NY Post I think, suggests just that. It's in the news thread.

Neverend
08-04-2012, 08:56 PM
Bradshaw isn't that type of dude

Really, if he felt threatened, he wouldn't be helping him

Its obvious the Giants drafted Beatty with the intention of having him success or replace Diehl at LT. Regardless of whether that may or may not happen/be true, Diehl was always helping Beatty in practice and camp as he progressed in the NFL. I've seen reports of Bradshaw doing the same with Wilson. Their both class acts only doing whats best for the team. I don't buy the fact that Bradshaw has that kind of mindset.

888888
08-04-2012, 08:57 PM
[The typical union mentality...don't kill yourself]
Hey ******* that sounds like what MANAGEMENT says to each other when they are doing nothing.....not the union guys who actually do the work in this country

miked1958
08-04-2012, 10:16 PM
I agree that he was only trying to give him constructive criticism. That's all

jomo
08-04-2012, 10:25 PM
I don't think he feels threatened by Wilson.

ALLnygIN
08-04-2012, 11:00 PM
hes probably just mentoring wilson the same way he was by jacobs.

TheShouldersOf
08-04-2012, 11:27 PM
I shall concur with you

GameTime
08-05-2012, 01:07 AM
thats a load of crap....sorry.
Bradshaw AND the Giants NEED one of the other backs to step up. Bradshaw, as well as everyone else, knows there is no way he can sustain a full year of 20+ carries a game. Bradshaw's ankles and feet will again give him big probs unless they manage his carries.....which they will.
His comments have nothing to do with feeling threatened by Wilson....IMO

davepc
08-05-2012, 02:05 AM
Unless your Barry Sanders, all the dancing in the backfield that worked in college will get you murdered in the pros. If anything Bradshaw was helping him.

It doesn't matter anyways, unless the rookie can handle the blitz pickups he won't see the field. They're not going to get Eli killed, no matter how fast Wilson is. That's one thing Bradshaw is excellent at.

giantsfan420
08-05-2012, 05:09 AM
i was surprised to see that wilsons actually pretty decent at blitz recognotion and pass protection. they had him do that often at VT, which is a good thing bc it means at the least the giants dont have to start at the beginning with him. all wilson will need to do is learn the checks and reads, not the actual ability to make a block bc he already can do that well

B-Red22
08-05-2012, 08:19 AM
Bradshaw has been saying since day one that he is excited to take Wilson under his wing.

GiantVibes
08-05-2012, 09:13 AM
If Bradshaw had played the last few years as the sole starter then I might think he would feel threatened. But I'll bet he's happy now that he's the number 1 veteran back on the team. He now has an opportunity to take up a leadership role and it looks like he's taking advantage.

He knows he's been hurt and is probably relieved he won't have to get 30 carries a game for the next couple years because his body can't handle it. He is still very much the feature back.

NJBLUE
08-05-2012, 10:48 AM
[the typical union mentality...don't kill yourself]
hey ******* that sounds like what management says to each other when they are doing nothing.....not the union guys who actually do the work in this country

thank you!!!!

Captain Chaos
08-05-2012, 11:28 AM
Bradshaw isn't that type of dude

Really, if he felt threatened, he wouldn't be helping him

Its obvious the Giants drafted Beatty with the intention of having him success or replace Diehl at LT. Regardless of whether that may or may not happen/be true, Diehl was always helping Beatty in practice and camp as he progressed in the NFL. I've seen reports of Bradshaw doing the same with Wilson. Their both class acts only doing whats best for the team. I don't buy the fact that Bradshaw has that kind of mindset.

I've got to agree, its the Pro Football mindset, mentor the youth.

Breezely
08-05-2012, 11:31 AM
We have to be careful to not advertise what we think is in a person's mind. The news media can and will speculate about something, just to bait for a bigger story. In other words, the news media will create something thats not there just for story sake or trying to break a story. We as Giants' fans should not help them because it can really can create problems. Just my opinion!!!!!!!

FBomb
08-05-2012, 12:21 PM
If you practice sloppy you play sloppy!

-Wilson should practice as if he is in the Superbowl every day...thats what builds toughness and a champion, not practicing and playing to avoid injury. The typical union mentality..."don't kill yourself"...which is true if you want to keep a job. If you want to be a champion, the best ever at what you do then you will move heaven and hell just to accomplish a single milestone...you will sacrifice yourself, life and limb just to move on to the next thing. No winner wants to sell themselves short, leave plays on the field, give up when they could have made a diving catch, run out at the one when they might have driven through the defender for the TD...

...Winners do what they have to to win, not get close!

Bradshaw is out of line for ever suggesting that a teammate not be "ALL IN!!!"

-You condition yourself to prevent injury so you can practice and play hard without the thought of injury entering your mind. The union mentality says, "take it easy"..."don't beat yourself up too much"..."you don't have to show too much", and thats bull ****!!! You do... and I think that is what Bradshaw is afraid of.


D. Wilson....I expect you to break your arm off for the starting position at RB for this team...I expect you to do everything possible to be the best at what you do...that is what you are here for...not only that, to be the best, you need to love what you have to do to, BE THE BEST!

Well, it wouldn't be the first time you havd a thought that no one else did.:rolleyes:

penguinfarmer
08-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Maybe he does feel threatened. If that is the case, shouldn't that make you feel good about Wilson?

gmen46
08-05-2012, 01:47 PM
If you practice sloppy you play sloppy!

-Wilson should practice as if he is in the Superbowl every day...thats what builds toughness and a champion, not practicing and playing to avoid injury. The typical union mentality..."don't kill yourself"...which is true if you want to keep a job. If you want to be a champion, the best ever at what you do then you will move heaven and hell just to accomplish a single milestone...you will sacrifice yourself, life and limb just to move on to the next thing. No winner wants to sell themselves short, leave plays on the field, give up when they could have made a diving catch, run out at the one when they might have driven through the defender for the TD...

...Winners do what they have to to win, not get close!

Bradshaw is out of line for ever suggesting that a teammate not be "ALL IN!!!"

-You condition yourself to prevent injury so you can practice and play hard without the thought of injury entering your mind. The union mentality says, "take it easy"..."don't beat yourself up too much"..."you don't have to show too much", and thats bull ****!!! You do... and I think that is what Bradshaw is afraid of.

D. Wilson....I expect you to break your arm off for the starting position at RB for this team...I expect you to do everything possible to be the best at what you do...that is what you are here for...not only that, to be the best, you need to love what you have to do to, BE THE BEST!

To answer the question posed in your thread headline, apparently you ARE the only one who thinks this. Take your anti-union bias (which seems to be your primary agenda here) elsewhere.

nycisgreat
08-05-2012, 02:13 PM
And he should! The same way BJ was. Let's face the facts. AB's playing days are soon coming to an end. Yeah, he is tough, but he is injury prone.

nycisgreat
08-05-2012, 02:15 PM
I hope Wilson lights a fire under AB.

hungrrrry
08-05-2012, 05:34 PM
To answer the question posed in your thread headline, apparently you ARE the only one who thinks this. Take your anti-union bias (which seems to be your primary agenda here) elsewhere.I am not anti-union at all, however to deny that there is a mentality within many unions of "do little get paid a lot" is lying to yourself...you may be in one, so you are just protecting your interests, I get it.

As far as Bradshaw is concern...I only read one article on the topic and apparently didn't get the same info from it as you all did...However, if Wilson is spending too much time behind the LOS trying to find a whole then thats a problem we have with the line...maybe his decision-making is an issue, but if he is making plays then keep up the good work young fella!

greenca190
08-05-2012, 05:57 PM
I think Bradshaw knows he got as much money as he possibly could when he tested free agency last year, and knows that he probably isn't going to get another big pay day. So what does he have to worry about what it comes to splitting carries with the young guy.

888888
08-06-2012, 06:44 PM
you are ignorant if you think that labor unions expect to share in a business' proceeds without contributing to the bottom line.. many businesses (and gov't. agencies) are management heavy with little or no production from the highest earners...

as far as Wilson ....we are not going to rush him onto the field.. it will take some time for him to be trusted with blocking assignments

Rod-Diggity
08-06-2012, 07:30 PM
dunno why bradshaw would feel threatened, i mean he has proved him self in this league already while wilson hasn't taken an real game time snap yet nor is he even close to bradshaw on the depth chart. sure wilson is fast but speed doesn't really mean anything in the nfl unless you have the fundalmentals down case in point sinorice moss, very fast guy but no fundamentals, or da'rell scott dude is suppose to be pretty fast as well but hasn't proven he can do anything else while bradshaw is already a proven starter