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jomo
08-19-2012, 04:19 PM
The officials were abysmal in week 1, embarrassingly so. I thought they were better last night, though by no means perfect or close to perfect. The referree made a few verbal errors but quickly corrected them. They did miss interference in the end zone against Cruz and holding by Cromartie on Barden in the first Q.

I am still hoping this is resolved soon but thought I saw a better brand of inferior officals last night.

NYGiants2120
08-19-2012, 05:59 PM
I agree, i see imporvement but still dont trust them sadly haha

derekunion28
08-19-2012, 06:11 PM
i want the old one backs pay them 100 grand more a team it will cost i heard on radio

RoanokeFan
08-19-2012, 06:17 PM
The officials were abysmal in week 1, embarrassingly so. I thought they were better last night, though by no means perfect or close to perfect. The referree made a few verbal errors but quickly corrected them. They did miss interference in the end zone against Cruz and holding by Cromartie on Barden in the first Q.

I am still hoping this is resolved soon but thought I saw a better brand of inferior officals last night.

You know though, the non-calls I saw may well have been missed by the real officials

Toadofsteel
08-19-2012, 06:56 PM
You know though, the non-calls I saw may well have been missed by the real officials

This. How many non-calls screwed us over (or threatened to) last season?

giantsfan420
08-19-2012, 07:04 PM
i didnt see any improvement.
but i was thinking, what if these replacement refs kinda lead to the game being played more like they did back when penalties werent called for every infractin. while it sucked we didnt get a PI call that would have been called correctly in todays game, i dunno if its a bad thing that we let more contact between wr/defender happen without throwing a flag...

its not just the PI calls, it seems overall that holding penalties are down as well. I dunno, just something I was thinking when watching the wr get mugged with no flag...i mean remember last year in the reg season vs GB, I believe JWill got called for defensive holding for breathing on a GB WR for a first. If I had my choice, I'd rather more contact be allowed than ticky tack fouls deciding games

giantsfan420
08-19-2012, 07:05 PM
but again, i saw no improvement and almost every aspect of officiating is looking terrible. like i literally believe u could give fans a two week course and they'd do a better job

FIFTY6G-MAN
08-19-2012, 07:05 PM
i didnt see any improvement.
but i was thinking, what if these replacement refs kinda lead to the game being played more like they did back when penalties werent called for every infractin. while it sucked we didnt get a PI call that would have been called correctly in todays game, i dunno if its a bad thing that we let more contact between wr/defender happen without throwing a flag...

its not just the PI calls, it seems overall that holding penalties are down as well. I dunno, just something I was thinking when watching the wr get mugged with no flag...i mean remember last year in the reg season vs GB, I believe JWill got called for defensive holding for breathing on a GB WR for a first. If I had my choice, I'd rather more contact be allowed than ticky tack fouls deciding gamesJust make sure the Giants secondary get this memo before the rest of the league.:D

Kase-1
08-19-2012, 07:41 PM
The officiating was better but still not anywhere near where it needs to be before the season starts. These last 2 games seem less meaningful for the players than the officials

RoanokeFan
08-19-2012, 08:00 PM
The officiating was better but still not anywhere near where it needs to be before the season starts. These last 2 games seem less meaningful for the players than the officials

You know, we say that, but in EVERY game day thread last season the officials were lambasted for calls and non-calls alike. I think what we may really be complaining about is the absence of game fluidity we're used to with the real refs. They make the calls, they tell us what they are, and the band plays on. It's a lot more hesitating now which affects the flow of the game.

Kase-1
08-19-2012, 08:01 PM
You know, we say that, but in EVERY game day thread last season the officials were lambasted for calls and non-calls alike. I think what we may really be complaining about is the absence of game fluidity we're used to with the real refs. They make the calls, they tell us what they are, and the band plays on. It's a lot more hesitating now which affects the flow of the game.After watching the preseason I realized how much I took the pro refs for granted

RoanokeFan
08-19-2012, 08:08 PM
After watching the preseason I realized how much I took the pro refs for granted

Who would have ever thought we'd have an officials sympathy thread? lol

GameTime
08-19-2012, 08:24 PM
how many times do we piss and moan about the regular officials...

same same with these guys.....

RoanokeFan
08-19-2012, 08:32 PM
how many times do we piss and moan about the regular officials...

same same with these guys.....

LOTS .... lol

Roosevelt
08-19-2012, 08:37 PM
The PI non call against Cruz was inexcuseable.

RoanokeFan
08-19-2012, 08:39 PM
Do the replacement officials work in "crews" or do they just tell them where to go individually?

GameTime
08-19-2012, 08:47 PM
The PI non call against Cruz was inexcuseable.
and we've never seen that before

every blown call is going to be magnified by 100 with these new guys. To be honest I havent seen anything really out of the ordinary from the BS we are presently used to.

plc
08-19-2012, 08:51 PM
The ref's missed calls last night for sure but I remember the packer regular season game last year and the game against the jestors where the ref's looked like they were trying to help the jestos win.I know the real ref's know the rules better but let us not get too crazy about these new ref's.We need to be careful about what we wish for because in 3 weeks we could be sorry the old ref's are back.

gumby74
08-19-2012, 10:35 PM
i want the old one backs pay them 100 grand more a team it will cost i heard on radio

money among many other things make good people act like *****s. The NFL already makes a killing and they can't spare some chump change?

BlueSanta
08-20-2012, 01:15 AM
While I do agree the zebras were ok last night for us, at least not as bad as prior, I did watch some of the other games this week and boy was it bad. The Carolina vs Miami game the other night and there were some of the worst pass interference calls I have ever seen. Miami's defense shut down the starting O of the panthers cept for 2 horrendous PI calls that, if it were the regular season, would have the league apologizing on monday.

GreenZone
08-20-2012, 11:21 AM
So far, so good. I don't miss the regular officials a bit. People like to second guess officials and officials make mistakes. At least this year, perhaps the balance of bad calls will even out, as opposed to last year.

Remember when the arrogant MLB umpires were all fired? That was a great day in sports. Many of those crews got so arrogant as to fabricate their own calls, like a phantom strike zone. That has crept back into the sport, unfortunately.

While today's NFL referees shouldn't necessarily have to be insurance agents and lawyers too, I think this whole lockout scenario will be good for the sport. And maybe, just maybe this appearance of bias against the Giants from last year won't rear its ugly head ever again.

While the replacement officials have been awkward at times, especially the first week, give them a chance. They are far from incompetent and I'll bet some of them land in the regular crews once the regulars and the league come to terms.

Other than missing the call on Cruz on Saturday, the crew was OK. But gee, no one would be talking about a glaring call if the regulars were there?

njg85m
08-20-2012, 11:59 AM
So far, so good. I don't miss the regular officials a bit. People like to second guess officials and officials make mistakes. At least this year, perhaps the balance of bad calls will even out, as opposed to last year.

Remember when the arrogant MLB umpires were all fired? That was a great day in sports. Many of those crews got so arrogant as to fabricate their own calls, like a phantom strike zone. That has crept back into the sport, unfortunately.

While today's NFL referees shouldn't necessarily have to be insurance agents and lawyers too, I think this whole lockout scenario will be good for the sport. And maybe, just maybe this appearance of bias against the Giants from last year won't rear its ugly head ever again.

While the replacement officials have been awkward at times, especially the first week, give them a chance. They are far from incompetent and I'll bet some of them land in the regular crews once the regulars and the league come to terms.

Other than missing the call on Cruz on Saturday, the crew was OK. But gee, no one would be talking about a glaring call if the regulars were there?

C'mon man, to insinuate that there has been no difference whatsoever is stretching it a bit, don't you think?

These guys are doing their best and are in a tougher situation then anybody else right now, but so far they have been absolutely putrid over all. I can't count the amount of times that they clearly either didn't know the rule, or didn't call something they saw because they didn't even know that it was a rule in the first place.

Like I said, they're doing their best and they clearly improved from week 1, but we really need a resolution here because unless they drastically improve in the next 16 days, they will compromise the integrity of the game.