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RoanokeFan
08-23-2012, 07:39 PM
LINK (http://www.giants101.com/2012/08/23/new-york-giants-terrell-thomas-hoping-for-mid-season-return-may-land-on-ir/)

Excerpt: "After experiencing some swelling in his surgically repaired knee (http://www.giants101.com/2012/07/30/new-york-giants-confirm-cb-terrell-thomas-suffered-injury-to-right-knee-involving-the-acl/) early in training camp, New York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/) cornerback Terrell Thomas (http://www.giants101.com/tag/terrell-thomas/) was sent to see a series of specialists for their opinion on the extent of the damage. All Doctors concluded that Thomas had not re-torn his ACL and did not immediately need surgery. Head coach Tom Coughlin (http://www.giants101.com/tag/tom-coughlin/) called the situation the "best case scenario (http://www.giants101.com/2012/08/06/new-york-giants-terrell-thomas-returning-to-camp-tom-coughlin-calls-it-best-case-scenario/)" and a 3-8 week timetable (http://www.giants101.com/2012/08/08/new-york-giants-terrell-thomas-says-he-could-return-from-aggravated-acl-in-3-8-weeks/) was set for Thomas' return." Read more...

BlueMetal 40
08-23-2012, 08:59 PM
I would think with the emergence of Hosley, as well as Will Hill, T2's importance in the scheme this year may not be as critical as it seemed it would be before training camp... What do you think, RF?

RoanokeFan
08-23-2012, 09:18 PM
I would think with the emergence of Hosley, as well as Will Hill, T2's importance in the scheme this year may not be as critical as it seemed it would be before training camp... What do you think, RF?

I'm thinking of something Hixon said about ACL injuries really needing two seasons to heal properly. With the emergence of Hosley and the very positive coaches comments about Will Hill I think IR may be the best long term route tor T2 and the team.

BlueSanta
08-23-2012, 10:03 PM
I am not so certain we keep TT. There are contract considerations to consider. I hope people do not take this as me bashing him or anything he is a good player who has had some unfortunate injuries. However, his contract was structured so that this year would be the determining year if he could remain healthy in this league. That has not happened.

His contract was structured so that this year he does not make much this year but if he does play as he could before and shows the same presence he once did , he would earn a much bigger paycheck next year and beyond. Cutting him not would free up a lot of money next year for the resigning of guys like KP and even Cruz, who the Giants definitely do not want to lose.

So, as much as I like TT, I do not know if his being able to return this year at some point is enough good news to keep him on the roster.

B-Red22
08-23-2012, 10:34 PM
I am not so certain we keep TT. There are contract considerations to consider. I hope people do not take this as me bashing him or anything he is a good player who has had some unfortunate injuries. However, his contract was structured so that this year would be the determining year if he could remain healthy in this league. That has not happened.

His contract was structured so that this year he does not make much this year but if he does play as he could before and shows the same presence he once did , he would earn a much bigger paycheck next year and beyond. Cutting him not would free up a lot of money next year for the resigning of guys like KP and even Cruz, who the Giants definitely do not want to lose.

So, as much as I like TT, I do not know if his being able to return this year at some point is enough good news to keep him on the roster.

And there is no way we sign him to another 1 year deal to prove himself? What if he comes back by some string of luck and has a great year and shows he still has what we thought he had before he was hurt last year. You wouldn't want to keep a player like that?

JimC
08-23-2012, 10:52 PM
I am not so certain we keep TT. There are contract considerations to consider. I hope people do not take this as me bashing him or anything he is a good player who has had some unfortunate injuries. However, his contract was structured so that this year would be the determining year if he could remain healthy in this league. That has not happened. His contract was structured so that this year he does not make much this year but if he does play as he could before and shows the same presence he once did , he would earn a much bigger paycheck next year and beyond. Cutting him not would free up a lot of money next year for the resigning of guys like KP and even Cruz, who the Giants definitely do not want to lose. So, as much as I like TT, I do not know if his being able to return this year at some point is enough good news to keep him on the roster.I afraid I'm in agreement with this point. It is going to be hard to wait another year to see if TT is ready and the player we think he still is. It may be time for a big decision.

G4L
08-23-2012, 11:23 PM
Aren't there new rules for the IR this season? Can't we IR TT, saving a roster spot, and re-activate him when/if healthy? I thought you could re-activate one player per season from the IR under the new CBA.

BlueSanta
08-23-2012, 11:42 PM
And there is no way we sign him to another 1 year deal to prove himself? What if he comes back by some string of luck and has a great year and shows he still has what we thought he had before he was hurt last year. You wouldn't want to keep a player like that?


It isnt about wanting to keep him and he isnt on a 1 year contract now. He IS under contract for next year. We signed him to a 4 year deal for 17 mil(actually up to 28 mil with performance bonuses) . Only 1 mil of that is due this year. So next year and beyond his pricetag goes WAY up.

I explained this in my original post i believe. His conrtact was structured this way to give him an opportunity to show this year that his knee is functional. 2 severe same knee tears is not something most players playing a speed position can recover from. If anything, the Giants have to be more concerned now about his knee than they were at the start of the year.

offingmoot
08-23-2012, 11:42 PM
The new rules were never agreed upon by the players. It looks like the old rules will remain in effect for this season. I just saw an article about that this week.

GMan-67
08-24-2012, 09:59 AM
obviously as a fan, i would love to have the option of adding TT to the mix mid-season, but with the fact that he will be eating up a roster spot with the old rules still in effect and how his contract is structured, well the biz side of football may dictate IR

CTsREVENGE
08-24-2012, 11:08 AM
I'm thinking of something Hixon said about ACL injuries really needing two seasons to heal properly. With the emergence of Hosley and the very positive coaches comments about Will Hill I think IR may be the best long term route tor T2 and the team.

I agree. Players shouldn't rush back, especially T2 who already had 2 ACL reconstructions an injured his ACL again. I had an ACL reconstruction in january 2011 and depending on what type of surgery, using a hamstring or a patellar tendon or cadavor(allo) graft, the recover time could be up to 5 years before the knee is sturdy and the ligament recovered. I went with the patellar autograph which is the most painfull but considred the "Gold Standard" of ACL reconstructions and was playing tenis in 4 months. But contact sports is another story. My doctor, one of the best in the world at ACL reconstructions 40 years and 100% success rate, said to give football time and NEVER rush back and suggested atleast a year and a half before getting back to even training camp/practice. T2 should not risk a mid season comeback because another injury will most likly be career ending #3.

RoanokeFan
08-24-2012, 12:02 PM
Aren't there new rules for the IR this season? Can't we IR TT, saving a roster spot, and re-activate him when/if healthy? I thought you could re-activate one player per season from the IR under the new CBA.

No, the NFLPA won't agree to new terms, as of yet