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VBGiantsFan
08-28-2012, 10:54 AM
I heard from a friend that Nicks, Cruz, JPP, and KP are all going to be free agents next year. Is this true? I hope some are at least restricted...

shotgundraw
08-28-2012, 11:00 AM
I heard from a friend that Nicks, Cruz, JPP, and KP are all going to be free agents next year. Is this true? I hope some are at least restricted...

No, kinda, no and yes.

There you go : http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/yearly/

Nicks was signed to a 5 year rookie deal after being drafted in 09.
Cruz will be a RFA (less than 4 accrued season), just like Wallace this year, so it's not as bad as him being a FA.
JPP was drafted in 2010, his rookie contract will end after the 2015 season.
Phillips will be FA if not extended after the 2012 season.

VBGiantsFan
08-28-2012, 11:06 AM
Damn, good thing Cruz, Nicks, and JPP are staggered in their FA bids. I hope that means we can keep all 3.

The NFL should make some sort of salary exemption if you draft your great players. It sucks that these guys get developed and price themselves out of playing for the teams who made them great.

fansince69
08-28-2012, 11:25 AM
Damn, good thing Cruz, Nicks, and JPP are staggered in their FA bids. I hope that means we can keep all 3.

The NFL should make some sort of salary exemption if you draft your great players. It sucks that these guys get developed and price themselves out of playing for the teams who made them great.

It's called parity and the whole reason for a salary cap is to ensure it exists.......if you want to keep your great players you draft....you have the inside track ...as long as you can make them happy...if you cant...they find someone that can

ozzie0075
08-28-2012, 11:37 AM
I would not be surprised if Cruz get taken care of sometime during the season.

shotgundraw
08-28-2012, 11:40 AM
I would not be surprised if Cruz get taken care of sometime during the season.

Maybe they want to make sure he isn't a 1 year wonder .... ?

I'm pretty sure he's not (route running, defense reading, physicality, work ethics ...) but from their spot, you don't reach conclusion that quick.

TheAnalyst
08-28-2012, 11:44 AM
I heard from a friend that Nicks, Cruz, JPP, and KP are all going to be free agents next year. Is this true? I hope some are at least restricted...

I think it was pretty much already stated, but Ill give it my angle.
Nicks is a FA after the 2013 season. 5 year deal in 2009. Then Giants have the option to either resign him or franchise him for another year.
Cruz is a FA after this season, but can be franchised as well for the 2013 season. If Cruz kills it this season, I see us locking him up for a 4-5 year contract. He will not even sniff FA if he has a big year, which I expect.
JPP is locked in until after the 2015 season, although, the Giants may extend his deal after next year liek they did for Tuck. Keep the current contract and bang on years after with a bunch guarenteed to keep JPP happy. He may be the trickiest signing we ever had because he is going to command HUGE money.
As for KP, he is a FA after this season. I expect him to have another big year and command some big dollars. I actually see us cutting off T2 (even if he is healthy) because we can under T2s contract and all that money we save go to KP and Cruz.

TheAnalyst
08-28-2012, 11:45 AM
I would not be surprised if Cruz get taken care of sometime during the season. The Giants dont work contracts during the season for the most part. Cruz will get taken care of though. Im sure they are already talking.

shotgundraw
08-28-2012, 11:50 AM
... or franchise him for another year .... can be franchised as well for the 2013 season ...

Sorry for the heavy editing but the issue with the franchise tag is that it all goes toward the cap on a single year and we don't have much room.

About Cruz, it's unlikely they would franchise him while he's a RFA, the team has much leverage there (see Wallace in Pittsburgh) and I doubt they spend $10M for a guy who basically can't go away.

ozzie0075
08-28-2012, 11:57 AM
The Giants dont work contracts during the season for the most part. Cruz will get taken care of though. Im sure they are already talking.

They did with Tuck during the 07 play-off run they gave him a big extension 2 days before the Green Bay game so there is some precedent for it.

IamGiantsfan
08-28-2012, 12:14 PM
The Giants dont work contracts during the season for the most part. Cruz will get taken care of though. Im sure they are already talking. They did with Tuck during the 07 play-off run they gave him a big extension 2 days before the Green Bay game so there is some precedent for it.
There were even rumors that Steve Smith was offered an extension in the middle of the season as well

nygpolishpunk
08-28-2012, 12:31 PM
The Giants dont work contracts during the season for the most part. Cruz will get taken care of though. Im sure they are already talking.
They did with Tuck during the 07 play-off run they gave him a big extension 2 days before the Green Bay game so there is some precedent for it.There were even rumors that Steve Smith was offered an extension in the middle of the season as wellShockey got his extension mid season as well when he was with the team. A number of other players as well. There have been plenty of cases of precedence.

StraightCruzinn
08-28-2012, 02:12 PM
Cut Bradshaw. Sign them all.

TheEnigma
08-28-2012, 02:17 PM
Pretty sure Snee and Webster's contracts expire at the end of the 2013 season. That's like $10mil right there.

miked1958
08-28-2012, 02:18 PM
I would not be surprised if Cruz get taken care of sometime during the season.Was thinking same thing. You want to resign and extend all 4 of these guys prior to a time where tension rises.. They are all great players for us and we can't afford not to resign them. Pay them and let's move on

ozzie0075
08-28-2012, 02:25 PM
Pretty sure Snee and Webster's contracts expire at the end of the 2013 season. That's like $10mil right there.

Yes Webster is 2013

On December 14, 2008, the New York Giants gave him a 5 year $43.5 million deal with $20 million guaranteed

And Snee is 2014 He signed a 6 year extension 2008 worth 41.25

TheEnigma
08-28-2012, 02:35 PM
Yes Webster is 2013

On December 14, 2008, the New York Giants gave him a 5 year $43.5 million deal with $20 million guaranteed

And Snee is 2014 He signed a 6 year extension 2008 worth 41.25

Hmm. It must be another veteran I'm thinking of then. Either way, assuming that Nicks, Cruz, JPP, and KP continue playing at elite levels, I see Reese doing everything in his power to keep those guys here.