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G4L
09-02-2012, 10:28 PM
Who will be our punt and kickoff returners Wednesday night?

WEG313
09-02-2012, 10:29 PM
I'd go with Wilson on the kickoffs and Hixon on the punts.

GiantsDynasty
09-02-2012, 10:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Jernigan is going to get first crack at the return duties.

zimonami
09-02-2012, 10:49 PM
I say Wilson on KO's, and Randle on punts.
Hixon is our best PR, but theu won't use him because of his value at #3, and due to his injury history... why take a chance? People should never forget Jason Sehorn... extraordinary KO returner in the making... yeah, right.

JB456
09-03-2012, 12:11 AM
I say Wilson on KO's, and Randle on punts.
Hixon is our best PR, but theu won't use him because of his value at #3, and due to his injury history... why take a chance? People should never forget Jason Sehorn... extraordinary KO returner in the making... yeah, right.

I understand where you are coming from but I don't agree with it. I think we would both agree that Wilson's long term value to the team is exponentially more valuable than Hixon. Why would the Giants put their future number one running back at risk for the sake of a receiver/ returner who might not even be on the team in two years?

I would try to keep Wilson away from return responsibilities with its higher risk at all costs.

G4L
09-03-2012, 01:51 AM
I understand where you are coming from but I don't agree with it. I think we would both agree that Wilson's long term value to the team is exponentially more valuable than Hixon. Why would the Giants put their future number one running back at risk for the sake of a receiver/ returner who might not even be on the team in two years?

I would try to keep Wilson away from return responsibilities with its higher risk at all costs.

I agree with you, but I don't think the coaching staff does. If they had Wilson returning kicks in meaningless pre-season games, I don't think they're going to hold him back from those duties during the regular season in order to protect him from injury.

RagTime Blue
09-03-2012, 02:01 AM
I don't understand how if a guy gets hurt from Special Teams, it's a waste of good talent and lack of forsight. But if a guy gets hurt from scrimmage, it's more acceptable.

Either way, the player is doing what he can to help the team, and on any play there's a chance of injury. You have to put your best players on the field always.

If Nicks or Cruz were the best player on the team at returning punts, I'd have no problem putting them in there, a'la DJax.

Toadofsteel
09-03-2012, 02:12 AM
Wilson back to return actually works to his skill set better. He's a back that can make defenders miss and is really good at cuts and staying on his feet... all good traits to have in the wide-open ST game. Don't get me wrong, he'd still be a fantastic RB, but just because he can do one doesn't mean he doesn't have the skill to do the other...

That said, as Wilson assumes more responsibility on our offense, he will subsequently see less return duty.

titwio
09-03-2012, 02:12 AM
Jernigan and Scott on kickoffs...Hosley or Hixon on punt returns is my guess.

JB456
09-03-2012, 02:21 AM
I don't understand how if a guy gets hurt from Special Teams, it's a waste of good talent and lack of forsight. But if a guy gets hurt from scrimmage, it's more acceptable.

Either way, the player is doing what he can to help the team, and on any play there's a chance of injury. You have to put your best players on the field always.

If Nicks or Cruz were the best player on the team at returning punts, I'd have no problem putting them in there, a'la DJax.

The risk for injury on special teams is significant. You have multiple players running at full speed in opposing directions. Wilson wasn't drafted to be a return guy, he was drafted to be the Giants future number one running back. Now, how stupid do you think the coaching staff will feel if Wilson is injured returning the ball? The Giants would be left with an often injured Bradshaw (I love the guy but its true) Brown and Scott (players who haven't shown anything in games that mattered). It would be an absolute disaster.

I realize that injuries happen in football on a daily basis but you should try to protect your stud players.

GMan-67
09-03-2012, 04:04 AM
Jernigan and Scott on kickoffs...Hosley or Hixon on punt returns is my guess.

this makes the most sense to me and with Hosley's minor turf toe along with how thin we are at CB, I will go with Hixon ... i don't think our only reason for re-signing Hixon was to replace Manningham ... despite his injury history, it's now time to take his training wheels off and see if he will be good to go for the entire season

but it is nice to have options ... our STs were good last year, but we were lacking a bit in the return area

G4L
09-03-2012, 04:47 AM
I don't understand how if a guy gets hurt from Special Teams, it's a waste of good talent and lack of forsight. But if a guy gets hurt from scrimmage, it's more acceptable.

Either way, the player is doing what he can to help the team, and on any play there's a chance of injury. You have to put your best players on the field always.

If Nicks or Cruz were the best player on the team at returning punts, I'd have no problem putting them in there, a'la DJax.

You are correct - to a point. There is a reason that the eagles use DJax to return punts, but not Vick.

Captain Chaos
09-03-2012, 08:37 AM
I have to say Scott on Kick-offs and Hosley on punts; I don't trust Jernigan. Would love to see Hixon back there, but likely won't.

RoanokeFan
09-03-2012, 09:31 AM
I'd go with Wilson on the kickoffs and Hixon on the punts.

There is an article in today's news thread that indicates Hixon may be the punt returner

miked1958
09-03-2012, 09:48 AM
There is an article in today's news thread that indicates Hixon may be the punt returnerGot no problem with that. Let's see how the knee is. If its right he gives us a legit shot at taking one to the House.

Evo'Ed
09-03-2012, 09:55 AM
I have to say Scott on Kick-offs and Hosley on punts; I don't trust Jernigan. Would love to see Hixon back there, but likely won't.

Our coaching staff trusted Jernigan enough on kickoff returns to handle it during the entire post season playoff run last year.

It'll probably be Jernigan and Scott on KOR and Hixon or Hosley on PR's.

titwio
09-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Got no problem with that. Let's see how the knee is. If its right he gives us a legit shot at taking one to the House.

I believe the last Giant to return a punt for a TD was Hixon in 2009 against the Cowboys.

RoanokeFan
09-03-2012, 10:35 AM
I believe the last Giant to return a punt for a TD was Hixon in 2009 against the Cowboys.

He was the last to return a punt for a TD

kbusch22
09-03-2012, 11:14 AM
I'd love to see Wilson or Scott on kickoffs and Hixon or Randle on punts.

I just don't trust Jernigan. I'd rather keep him inactive so that Hixon, Randle, and Barden can all play and see some offensive snaps and rotate around in that #3 WR spot.

river555
09-03-2012, 12:06 PM
Lets not forget there's an inactive list for every game. JJ right now is the 6th WR and may be inactive. Same goes for Scott.

RoanokeFan
09-03-2012, 12:19 PM
I say Wilson on KO's, and Randle on punts.
Hixon is our best PR, but theu won't use him because of his value at #3, and due to his injury history... why take a chance? People should never forget Jason Sehorn... extraordinary KO returner in the making... yeah, right.

It's going to depend on field position after the punt is secured. We have to get positive yards.

jomo
09-03-2012, 12:40 PM
It's going to depend on field position after the punt is secured. We have to get positive yards.No fumble is a much higher priority for me than positive yards. Our offense can chew up yards but turnovers are just deadly.

zimonami
09-03-2012, 12:50 PM
No fumble is a much higher priority for me than positive yards. Our offense can chew up yards but turnovers are just deadly.
Yeah, like back in Parcell's day... just catch the ball... then worry about yards.

titwio
09-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Lets not forget there's an inactive list for every game. JJ right now is the 6th WR and may be inactive. Same goes for Scott.

Scott is higher on the depth chart then Brown right now. I actually expect Scott will be a key contributor on ST's and will be an active regular.

I could be wrong also but don't think so.

RoanokeFan
09-03-2012, 07:52 PM
No fumble is a much higher priority for me than positive yards. Our offense can chew up yards but turnovers are just deadly.

I was assuming the catch, but you're right