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RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 01:17 PM
HERE NOW THE NEWS

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NEWARK STAR LEDGER

Martellus Bennett will match up Sunday against his brother, a Buccaneers' defensive end

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/martellus_bennett_will_match_u.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "Martellus Bennett has matched up against his older brother, Michael, once before in the NFL.It was last season, when the Giants tight end played for the Cowboys. Michael Bennett is a left defensive end for the Buccaneers, meaning the two siblings would potentially go head-to-head on the field.

"I had to switch with Witten," Martellus Bennett said, referring to former Cowboys teammate Jason Witten, "so I didn’t have to block him that many times."

"We're not the type of brothers where it is like, 'Hey, I'm kicking your (butt) all day," he added. "We’re more like, 'Hey bro, good job.' We push each other moreso than to try to have the bragging rights in the family." Read more...

Giants' Will Beatty saud he's ready to reclaim starting job at Ledf Tackle

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_will_beatty_says_hes_re.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "For the first time in a long while, Will Beatty wasn't a name on the Giants' injury report today. Beatty, who had been hampered by a back injury, practiced today without limitations and split time between the first-and second-teams.

Beatty thought he was ready to start at left tackle in the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys, but Sean Locklear got the call. Instead, Beatty saw playing time only as a jumbo tight end. Now the ball is in the coaching staff's court." Read more...

Victor Cruz dealing with the loss of his grandmother, who inspired his salsa touchdown celebration

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/victor_cruz_dealing_with_loss.html

Excerpt: "The next time Victor Cruz does his patented salsa touchdown celebration, it will have an even more special meaning.

The Giants receiver first learned the dance from his grandmother, Lucy Molina, who passed away Monday night at age 77. "

Obviously she's going to be on my mind," Cruz said today, "so it’s going to be emotional for me."Cruz was at Molina's hospital bed in New Jersey when she passed away, after being in and out of the hospital over the past several months for a combination of reasons, including diabetes.

Cruz said he will attend her services after practice Thursday and her funeral Friday. It's not clear if he'll miss practice Friday as the Giants prepare for Tampa Bay." Read more...

Giants' Prince Amukamara admits limping a "little bit" at practice, but playing Sunday is still in his plans

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_prince_amukamara_admits.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "Prince Amukamara knows he's going to be a target as soon as he steps back onto the football field, whenever that is. So when that does happen he wants to make sure he isn't slowed too badly by the high-ankle sprain he suffered in the preseason.

"I don't want to play with a limp so if I'm limping out there, I'm going to be there anyways, but the offensive coordinators they're still going to smell blood," the second-year cornerback said. "If I'm able to run and it's still lingering then that's cool, but if I'm limping then that's not cool." Read more...

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Giants' David Wilson "a little bit" out of Tom Coughlin's doghouse

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_david_wilson_a_little_b.html

Excerpt: "Rookie running back David Wilson is "a little bit out of the doghouse" after his miscue in the season opener, coach Tom Coughlin said today.
Wilson fumbled on his second carry of the Giants' loss to the Cowboys, and did not see the field on offense again. He did return a few more kickoffs after the mistake.

Coughlin said Wilson will "certainly" get the ball this week, though he didn't specify how large his role will be. Asked if the coaches will continue to talk to the rookie and also do more ball-security drills this week, Coughlin said, "all of the above." Read more...

Giants' hot topis: What needs to change the most from week 1 to week 2

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_hot_topic_what_needs_to.html (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_hot_topic_what_needs_to.html)

Excerpt: "Most Giants fans can agree that there needs to be a lot of improvements from Week 1 to Week 2." Read more...

Giants watched Rutgers' film to prepare for Buccaneers' Greg Schiano

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_watched_rutgers_film_to.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "As the Giants prepare to face the 1-0 Buccaneers, led by former Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano, they dialed up some old film of the Scarlet Knights.
"We watched all the Rutgers film. In all three phases," coach Tom Coughlin said. "Of course, we watched all the (Buccaneers') preseason games. They continue to have a good scheme." Read more...

Giants' Hakeem Nicks, Adewale Ojomo not practicing today
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_hakeem_nicks_adewale_oj.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "Wide receiver Hakeem Nicks was not practicing today during the portion open to the media. Nicks, who said it's going to take a game or two to get back to his normal self, played in the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys and had four catches for 38 yards. But it looks like Nicks' surgically-repaired right foot is going to keep him sidelined from time-to-time during the week in order to rest it." Read more...

Cowboys' Tyron Smith fined for horses collar tackle of Michael Boley

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/cowboys_tyron_smith_fined_for.html#incart_river (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/cowboys_tyron_smith_fined_for.html#incart_river)

Excerpt: "Game-changing plays come at a price and for Tyron Smith his horse-collar tackle of Michael Boley that prevented the linebacker from returning an interception for a touchdown last week had a $15,750 price tag on it." Read more...

Giants' morning run around the NFL: Buccaneers rookie class drawing rave reviews

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_morning_run_around_the_2.html#incart_river

Excerpt: "The Giants will be back on the practice field later today, four days before they take on the 1-0 Tampa Bay Buccaneers." Read more...


Antrel Rolle has "never ever "seen Tony Romo as comfortable against the Giants as in the season opener

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...r_ever_se.html (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/antrel_rolle_has_never_ever_se.html)

Excerpt: "Antrel Rolle didn't go quite as far as teammate Justin Tuck, who said Monday that the Giants were "disgusted" with how they played (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/justin_tuck_disgusted_with_gia.html#incart_river) in their season-opening loss to Dallas.

But Rolle "wasn't satisfied." The veteran safety's reason is that he believes the Giants are a better defense than what they showed last Wednesday night, specifically against familiar conference foe Tony Romo." Read more...

Giants' Victor Cruz looking to rebound from "rude awakening" against Cowboys

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/09/giants_victor_cruz_looking_to.html#incart_river)

Excerpt: "Receiver Victor Cruz was the latest Giants player to have strong words about the team's season-opening loss to the Cowboys, calling it a "rude awakening" and a "wake-up call" in his weekly spot today on WFAN Radio.
Cruz had six catches for 58 yards in the 24-17 loss, but he also had three uncharacteristic drops and two penalties. He's focused on moving forward, but also had some seemingly critical words for himself." Read more

SITE LINK (http://www.nj.com/giants/)

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS.


Bennett boys ready for brotherly battle

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/09/bennett-boys-ready-for-brotherly-battle

Excerpt: "There was a moment last December, when the Dallas Cowboys visited Tampa Bay that Martellus Bennett forgot what team he was on. When his brother, Bucs defensive end Michael Bennett, sacked Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo, he got caught up in being a fan.

“I was on the sidelines and I was like ‘Yeah! Good sack! Good sack!’” Martellus recalled on Wednesday. “Then I turned around (and yelled) ‘Somebody block that MFer, man, what y’all doing out there?!’”

It was easier for him to watch his brother last season when both were backup players, but when the Bennett Boys face off on Sunday they’ll be starting for their respective teams. Last season, Martellus was able to switch sides with Cowboys tight end Jason Witten so he didn’t have to block his brother too often." Read more...

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Giants' offense will have to be on their guard against Buccaneers

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/giants-defense-guard-tampa-bay-article-1.1157193

Excerpt: "The Carolina Panthers had the third-best rushing attack in the NFL last season, led by a rookie who set a record for quarterbacks with 14 rushing touchdowns. On Sunday, against the revamped Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, that once-powerful rushing attack gained 10 whole yards.

Talk about bad timing for the Giants.

Now the defending Super Bowl champs get a crack at the Bucs with a rushing attack that desperately needs a reason to feel good about itself after a horrible performance against the Cowboys in their opener last week. After gaining just 82 yards on the ground against Dallas, the Giants now face a Bucs defense that looked like a brick wall.: Read more...


Wilson out of the dog house...at least "a little"

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/09/wilson-out-of-the-doghouse-at-least-a-little

Excerpt: "Rookie David Wilson will be back on the field on Sunday afternoon against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a chance to atone for his opening night fumble. So that means he’s out of Tom Coughlin’s doghouse, right?

“Well,” Coughlin said on Wednesday, “he’s a little out of the doghouse.” Read more...

SITE LINK (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants)

THE NEW YORK POST.

Coughlin says Giants' rookie Wilson "a little bit our of the doghouse"

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giantsblog/coughlin_says_giants_rookie_wilson_s8qQ3I7NkGwFoRc 38csWsI

Excerpt: "Tom Coughlin said rookie running back David Wilson has gone through some new drills especially designed to help him hold onto the ball and so far, the veteran coach likes what he sees from the first-year NFL player.

“He’s anxious to do right,’’ Coughlin said Wednesday morning. “He’s a little bit out of the doghouse.’’
Asked what Wilson can do to regain his trust, Coughlin said “Ball security.’’
Wilson lost a fumble in the season opener on his second NFL rushing attempt and didn’t get a third against the Cowboys. By stating that Wilson is coming out of the doghouse, Coughlin indicated that Wilson will get a chance to redeem himself on Sunday when the Giants face the Buccaneers.

The Giants will end up having a 10-day layoff between their first and second games. Asked what he expected out of his team after so much time off, Coughlin ran through a bunch of short, declarative responses." Read more...


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NOWHERE TO RUN

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/ground_game_one_of_several_giant_CXaqohk3L87Qk6YyA DIUBP

Excerpt: "Lose, study the film, proclaim the problems are “correctable.’’ It is the time-honored dance of the beaten, steps the Giants took earlier than any other team in the league.

They failed in four key areas in their season-opening loss to the Cowboys last Wednesday: pass defense, run defense, pressure on the quarterback and running the ball on offense. There are reasons to believe and precedents already set that there is enough talent on defense to correct what went wrong.

Put it this way: Will there be another game this entire season when Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul and Osi Umenyiora are on the field together and not only do not register a single sack but also fail to deliver a single quarterback hit?" Read more...

SITE LINK (http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants)


THE BERGEN RECORD

Victor Cruz vows to redeem himself

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/St...ts_opener.html (http://www.northjersey.com/sports/Struggling_Victor_Cruz_vows_to_redeem_himself_afte r_poor_Giants_opener.html)

Excerpt: "Victor Cruz was hit with criticism from every direction.

At this point last season, his Twitter timeline was flooded with messages from fans questioning him after what he then called a “forgettable” Week 1 performance.

Cruz dropped the first Eli Manning pass to come his way in the Giants’ season-opening loss to the Redskins in Washington a year ago, and fans were relentless on social media.There was plenty of criticism for a then-unknown wide receiver from Paterson (http://www.northjersey.com/paterson) and former preseason hero for his two-TD performance against the Jets the previous summer.All mostly from the same fan base that now adores him, of course.
“Just catch the ball.’’

“Come on, Cruz, we need you.’’

“Maybe you’re not the player we thought you were.’’ Read more...

SITE LINK (http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/)

NEW YORK TIMES

SITE LINK (http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/football/index.html)

WALL STREET JOURNAL

SITE LINK (http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-sports-nfl.html)

GIANTS 101

Giants' Hakeem Nicks will return to practice Thursday expects to play Sunday

http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/12/new-york-giants-hakeem-nicks-will-return-to-practice-thursday-expects-to-play-sunday/

Excerpt: "In an attempt to avoid the inevitable mass hysteria that arises each timeNew York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/) wide receiver Hakeem Nicks misses a practice, the star wideout came out and publicly stated his intentions of practicing tomorrow. After sitting out of team activities today to rest his foot injury, Nicks told the media that not only will he be on the field for practice Thursday, but he will also play this Sunday against Tampa Bay (http://www.giants101.com/tag/tampa-bay/). So for all of you out there that were up in arms about Nicks riding the stationary bike today, it looks as if the situation will work itself out in the Giants favor." Read more...

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David Wilson slowly climbing our of dog house and more from afternoon tea with Tom Coughlin

http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/12/david-wilson-slowly-climbing-out-of-dog-house-more-from-afternoon-tea-with-tom-coughlin/

Excerpt: "New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants head coach Tom Coughlin took the podium on Wednesday with nothing but smiles and rosy cheeks as he addressed the media during the first of his annual mid-week press conferences of 2012. Actually, no … we kid. In last place in the NFC East at 0-1, coach Coughlin wasn't an overly happy man, but was anxious to look ahead to Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers." Read more...


Giants' Victor Cruz vows to work harder, pay more attention going forward

http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/12/new-york-giants-victor-cruz-vows-to-work-harder-pay-more-attention-going-forward/

Excerpt: "As he did to start the 2011 season, New York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/) wide receiver Victor Cruz (http://www.giants101.com/tag/victor-cruz/) struggled through a rough first week that included several drops. Three to be exact. And to top it off, he added two costly penalties. But the youngster hasn't shied away from his mistakes, saying his career-worst night against the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.giants101.com/tag/dallas-cowboys/) has humbled him (http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/06/new-york-giants-victor-cruz-humbled-after-three-drop-night/). The past now in the past, Cruz vows to work harder and pay more attention starting this week." Read more...


Giants will face several former coaches, players against Buccaneers

http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/11/...ay-buccaneers/ (http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/11/new-york-giants-will-face-several-former-coaches-players-against-tampa-bay-buccaneers/)

Excerpt: "In an aspect of this Sunday's upcoming bout with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://www.giants101.com/tag/tampa-bay-buccaneers/)that has gone generally undiscussed, the New York Giants (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/) will square off against several former coaches and players that may possess an in depth knowledge of Big Blue's schemes and personnel.

Among them are Bucs offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan (http://www.giants101.com/tag/mike-sullivan/) and defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan (http://www.giants101.com/tag/bill-sheridan/). Having two high level coaches with significant experience within the Giants coaching staff on the opposing sideline could present an issue for Tom Coughlin and Co." Read more...

SITE LINK (http://www.giants101.com/)

BIG BLUE VIEW

NY Giants' news and notes: Antrel Rolle, Victor Cruz, and more edition

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/12/3319012/new-york-giants-news-victor-cruz-antrel-rolle-tampa-bay-buccaneers

Excerpt: "Good morning, New York Giants' fans! Here is your Wednesday morning notebook." Read more...


Pre-practice injury report: Nicks rests

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/17023/pre-practice-injury-report-prince-to-work

Excerpt: "Wide receiver Hakeem Nicks (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12586/hakeem-nicks) sat out the early portion of practice open to the media.

Nicks has been resting his surgically-repaired foot during practices and this could be another instance where he is taking it easy but will play. He did not practice for two straight days before playing against the Cowboys last week.

Cornerback Prince Amukamara (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13975/prince-amukamara) did practice on Wednesday but it remains to be seen how much he will do. The team will release its injury report later in the day.

Head coach Tom Coughlin said before practice that Amukamara will likely not go through a full practice. Amukamara did some work on Monday and is hoping to return from a high ankle sprain on Sunday. He has been out since Aug. 24. " Read more...

Giants vs. Bucaneers: Tampa Bay coordinators will look familiar

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/12/3320572/giants-vs-buccaneers-tampa-bay-coordinators-mike-sullivan-bill-sheridan

Excerpt: "When the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants) face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/tampa-bay-buccaneers) on Sunday (1 p.m. ET) at MetLife Stadium, the coordinators making the calls for the Buccaneers will be familiar to Giants fans. Both are former Giants coaches -- Mike Sullivan on offense and Bill Sheridan on defense.

Sullivan was Giants' quarterbacks coach in 2010 and 2011, and wide receivers coach from 2004-2009 before Tampa Bay head coach Greg Schiano gave him the opportunity to run his own offense with the Buccaneers." Read more...

Giants roster power rankings: Rating the players form 1 - 53

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/11...ul-victor-cruz (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/11/3316642/new-york-giants-roster-power-rankings-eli-manning-jason-pierre-paul-victor-cruz)

Excerpt: "While we are talking about NFL Power Rankings I thought I would do something a little different. After the jump, you will find a look at the Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants)' roster, with players ranked from 1-53.

Honestly, I know how subjective it is. And I know how much you can argue about this, especially the guys in the middle -- almost anywhere from 10 or 12 right through around 40. I just think it might be interesting to use this as a baseline and see how it changes throughout the season." Read more...
NFL powser rankings, week 2, Giants tumble after opening loss

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/11...r-opening-loss (http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/11/3316182/nfl-power-rankings-week-2-new-york-giants-tumble-after-opening-loss)

Excerpt: "I know many of you hate weekly NFL Power Rankings. And I know they are subjective and don't mean a whole lot. They are, however, good fodder for discussion and they can tell us what folks around the Inter-Google think of the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants).
That said, let's look around quickly and see where the Giants rank entering Week 2.SB Nation.com drops the Giants from No. 2 to No. 6 (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/9/11/3315268/nfl-power-rankings-week-2), and NFL Editor Joel Thorman isn't very nice about it, either. He writes:"Should we be surprised they dropped the season opener? This team isn't the Patriots (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots), a team that wins 13 games seemingly every year. They barely made it into the playoffs last season, a notch above .500."SB Nation New York has the Giants all the way down at No. 17 (http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/9/11/3314624/nfl-power-rankings-week-1-eli-manning-giants-tim-tebow-jets-tom-brady). Now that is a lack of respect for the defending champs.Other rankings:" Read more...

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GMENHQ

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YARDBARKER.COM


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INSIDE FOOTBALL


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THE RED ZONE

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GIANTSFOOTBALLBLOG

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NFL.COM

SITE LINK (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG)

SI.COM

SITE LINK (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/teams/new-york-giants/?eref=sinav)

ESPN

Coughoin: Wilson "a little out of the dog house"

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/17031/coughlin-wilson-a-little-out-of-doghouse

Excerpt: "Rookie David Wilson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14887/david-wilson) is making his way out of Tom Coughlin's "doghouse."

The Giants head coach said he has spoken to the team's first-round pick about Wilson's fumble against Dallas and liked what he has seen from Wilson since the turnover.

"He’s anxious to do right," Coughlin said.

When asked if Wilson is still in Coughlin's doghouse, the head coach replied, "Well, he’s a little out of the doghouse." Read more...

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NBCSPORTS

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CBSSPORTS


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FOXSPORTS

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YAHOOSPORTS


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(http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/)
PROFOOTBALLWEEKLY


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PROFOOTBALLFOCUS

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FOOTBALLOUTSIDERS

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MISCELLANEOUS

BigBlue1971
09-12-2012, 01:35 PM
thanks Roanoke!

Old Giant
09-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the news.
Really do not care about "power rankings".
Fingers crossed for a win on Sunday.

BeatYale
09-12-2012, 01:39 PM
Thanks bro.

Toadofsteel
09-12-2012, 01:41 PM
Sounds like Wilson is really dedicated to fixing his issues. That's good to hear, hope he can see some carries on sunday!

GameTime
09-12-2012, 01:50 PM
thanks Ro....
psyched for Sunday....

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 02:15 PM
thanks Roanoke!

You're welcome

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 02:16 PM
thanks Ro....
psyched for Sunday....

It's Wednesday, last week is now a blur

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 02:16 PM
Sounds like Wilson is really dedicated to fixing his issues. That's good to hear, hope he can see some carries on sunday!

+1

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 02:16 PM
Thanks bro.

You are welcome

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 02:17 PM
Thanks for the news.
Really do not care about "power rankings".
Fingers crossed for a win on Sunday.

We will get it all together

GameTime
09-12-2012, 03:13 PM
It's Wednesday, last week is now a blur
why?...what happened last week......

:rolleyes:

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 03:21 PM
why?...what happened last week......

:rolleyes:

Last week when? :confused:

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 03:22 PM
We can do this again:

+1

GameTime
09-12-2012, 04:51 PM
Last week when? :confused:
who stole my corn flakes damit!!!!

what?.....who??...

ah...forget it....

RoanokeFan
09-12-2012, 05:17 PM
who stole my corn flakes damit!!!!

what?.....who??...

ah...forget it....

LOL