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BlueJayC
09-20-2012, 12:29 PM
As much as the Giants and Fewell would like to simply rely on their front four to provide pressure it's not gonna work when teams are max-protecting, chipping and keeping backs and TE's in to block. Saw the same thing for 12 games last year and not sure what it's going to take to get Fewell to bring that one extra guy again........bring one extra guy every other play from a different spot.....and if you do bring that guy don't drop a linemen into coverage........seems blatantly obvious.....just seems like we've been here before time and time again.

From rewatching the game the other night it seemed when they brought just that one extra guy they would get to Freeman or at least force him to get rid of the ball quickly.

YATittle1962
09-20-2012, 12:47 PM
you want to take someone out of coverage with a defensive backfield like this?

I completely understand what you are saying......but that front four should be applying a lot more pressure then they have shown so far this season

unfortunately this defense is built around getting pressure with the front four with just a few exotic blitz packages

so until CB is a healthy position I would expect more coverage looks ....less blitz looks

Dwinsballgames
09-20-2012, 12:48 PM
Live by the blitz = die by the blitz

ShakeandBake
09-20-2012, 12:51 PM
Its funny how people want us to blitz more then when we do they jump down PFs throat(see last weeks game when Coe was left on the outside vs VJ on 3rd and 11). As YA said our pass rush should get there with us "only" sending 4, this is how it is designed, and if we send more than that we are exposing ourselves to get hurt in the passing game, which we can not afford to do considering the state of our secondary.

BlueJayC
09-20-2012, 12:58 PM
As Corey has said and as I believe you bump and blitz at the line to hide deficiencies in the secondary.......Coe nor any other corner has laid a hand on their receiver coming off the line all season......that's a whole other problem. If you're going to blitz and leave man to man on the outside you have to jam and jam well. Is that a Fewell issue or personal technique thing? I honestly don't know and am asking.

BlueJayC
09-20-2012, 01:00 PM
so until CB is a healthy position I would expect more coverage looks ....less blitz looks

Damn you and your LOGIC......it's so frustrating and point on!!!!! :mad:

Hooligans
09-20-2012, 01:05 PM
As much as the Giants and Fewell would like to simply rely on their front four to provide pressure it's not gonna work when teams are max-protecting, chipping and keeping backs and TE's in to block. Saw the same thing for 12 games last year and not sure what it's going to take to get Fewell to bring that one extra guy again........bring one extra guy every other play from a different spot.....and if you do bring that guy don't drop a linemen into coverage........seems blatantly obvious.....just seems like we've been here before time and time again.

From rewatching the game the other night it seemed when they brought just that one extra guy they would get to Freeman or at least force him to get rid of the ball quickly.

Teams have be bringing one and two extra guys on the rush, and Cam makes them pay dearly for it. Cam is a great passer and Steve Smith will get open along with Brian LaFell. The Giants can only hope to slow down the Pnathers and hope they outscore them......because the Panthers will score some points.

BParcells777
09-20-2012, 01:06 PM
Dropping into coverage is called the "Prevent Defense"........in the history of the NFL all it has ever done is it has prevented nothing

The problem is it opens up the middle of the field for slants, curls and come back routes all day long

The Giants thrive on Dline pressure, and without at least one Bltzer the new Refs are letting the Oline hold all day long

Fewell is putting extreme pressure on our D with this Bill Sheridan imitation Defense

Dwinsballgames
09-20-2012, 01:07 PM
They will blitz, but you can't expect it on every passing down. That's a sure-fire way to get burned.

hadenough
09-20-2012, 01:07 PM
you want to take someone out of coverage with a defensive backfield like this?

I completely understand what you are saying......but that front four should be applying a lot more pressure then they have shown so far this season

unfortunately this defense is built around getting pressure with the front four with just a few exotic blitz packages

so until CB is a healthy position I would expect more coverage looks ....less blitz looks



I agree with BlueJay that Fewell should mix in a few more blitzes. And you're right...the front four should be getting more pressure...but they're not. So right now...the front four is getting almost zero pressure and the secondary is still getting torched. Fewell is pretty conservative and possibly very stubborn. So I agree with both of you....I would like a few more blitzes and see more press by the corners. But I don't think Fewell will do this. When, or if, the front four start applying pressure....I'm fine with no blitzing. But until that time comes....let's get after them.

YATittle1962
09-20-2012, 01:11 PM
I agree with BlueJay that Fewell should mix in a few more blitzes. And you're right...the front four should be getting more pressure...but they're not. So right now...the front four is getting almost zero pressure and the secondary is still getting torched. Fewell is pretty conservative and possibly very stubborn. So I agree with both of you....I would like a few more blitzes and see more press by the corners. But I don't think Fewell will do this. When, or if, the front four start applying pressure....I'm fine with no blitzing. But until that time comes....let's get after them.

part of being a good defensive coach is picking and choosing your spots to send pressure wisely and strategically

hopefully Fewell will pick some spots carefully and send some creative pressure packages that he has not yet put on film

ryan12
09-20-2012, 01:56 PM
just play some ball tonight D

BParcells777
09-21-2012, 12:34 AM
Your wish was Mr Fewell's command

BlueJayC
09-21-2012, 10:32 AM
I wasn't just seeing things right......they were bringing an extra guy all night? Have to rewatch because I was awestruck and more focused on the great play of Eli, Barden, Brown, Holsey and Prince......but seemed like Fewell was getting creative. Loved seeing Rolle with those run blitzes......hopefully he's alright. Hope they stay aggressive and attack Vick the same way.