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Tmurda1984
09-21-2012, 08:06 PM
William Beatty has done a great job in David Diehl's absence. I still would love for the Giants to stock up on offensive linemen in next year's draft, but if Beatty continues to play well I dont mind him starting. Last night showed what Eli and these receivers could do when given enough time to go through their routes. Eli was sooo deadly accurate, and having a left tackle that can actually block is very exciting. Hope Beatty has a healthy productive season.

slipknottin
09-21-2012, 08:08 PM
Beatty was extremely effective in the run game as well, perhaps even more effective run blocking than he was pass blocking

drewz
09-21-2012, 08:09 PM
Nah man, James Brewer is the next man up.. I doubt we'd draft a tackle next year unless they weren't impressed with Brewer's development.

giantsfan420
09-21-2012, 08:11 PM
its amazing how one game can change everything. i wouldnt mind this OL at all if they can keep it up. only issue is every guy on our OL starting has been in the league for 7 yrs or longer (aside from Beatty) so we will need to invest in young talent.

slipknottin
09-21-2012, 08:14 PM
Nah man, James Brewer is the next man up.. I doubt we'd draft a tackle next year unless they weren't impressed with Brewer's development.

I still think guard is more of a concern. They have really no depth there at all, apart from Cordle and Petrus. Neither of them inspire much confidence.

Giantz4Life
09-21-2012, 08:18 PM
I still think guard is more of a concern. They have really no depth there at all, apart from Cordle and Petrus. Neither of them inspire much confidence.

I agree. Yeah we could definitely use a first round OT talent, but our depth at guard is putrid.

RoanokeFan
09-21-2012, 08:21 PM
Beatty was extremely effective in the run game as well, perhaps even more effective run blocking than he was pass blocking

And, thanks to you, we know he played every offensive snap

GMENAGAIN
09-21-2012, 08:53 PM
Nah man, James Brewer is the next man up.. I doubt we'd draft a tackle next year unless they weren't impressed with Brewer's development.

There is no way that we would not draft a OT next year (or any year) because Brewer is on our roster.

ozzie0075
09-21-2012, 09:07 PM
There is no way that we would not draft a OT next year (or any year) because Brewer is on our roster.

Brewer is more suited to play RT. If Beatty plays well this season at LT there is a chance the Giants might not draft an OT early. Also this could be addressed in free agency instead of the draft. It really all comes down to how Beatty plays and if he can stay healthy.

moosedrool
09-21-2012, 09:54 PM
From PFF:

Beatty States His Case
The Giants depth chart at offensive tackle has long puzzled us at Pro Football Focus. Well, with David Diehl absent through injury the Giants were last night forced to shuffle the pack. In his absence Sean Locklear (+1.3), and in particular William Beatty (+5.4) put forth the perfect example of why they should be the Giants’ starting tackles for the rest of the season. Locklear had one extremely shaky play in pass protection that yielded a hit to Charles Johnson early in the first quarter and allowed a couple of stops in the run game. At left tackle Beatty was nearly faultless in one of the best performances of his career. He allowed a couple of pressures in pass protection, but his run blocking was dominant. He had the key block on each of Andre Brown’s 1-yard touchdown carries.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/09/21/refo-giants-panthers-week-3/

TheEnigma
09-21-2012, 11:36 PM
Even if this Oline turns into a top 5 unit for the season, we would still need to draft some offensive linemen just for the age factor. Beatty is the only young offesnive linemen who has shown anything so far. Brewer has had good moments but equally bad moments as well. Mosley is a huge question mark and then that's really it. Another offensive tackle and two interior linemen would be nice to grab.

Carter.525
09-21-2012, 11:54 PM
1st 2 picks next year should be O-line

stormblue
09-21-2012, 11:58 PM
+1 this ^

GMan-67
09-22-2012, 05:57 AM
no WAIT, i heard he right here, he's SOFT, he's TERRIBLE, he's GARBAGE ... were all the trolls wrong ??? :)

Captain Chaos
09-22-2012, 07:29 AM
I still think guard is more of a concern. They have really no depth there at all, apart from Cordle and Petrus. Neither of them inspire much confidence.

I agree, I was expecting more from Petrus and he just didn't perform in the preseason and I don't expect he will be around next year.

JimC
09-22-2012, 07:54 AM
its amazing how one game can change everything. i wouldnt mind this OL at all if they can keep it up. only issue is every guy on our OL starting has been in the league for 7 yrs or longer (aside from Beatty) so we will need to invest in young talent.Let's see how they do against the Iggles.

BurnerNYG
09-22-2012, 08:25 AM
I'm about to stop talking you guys. I tried to tell you all that the Oline wasn't that bad and in fact it was The Cowboys (OUR DIVISION RIVAL) just being more prepared. Diehl going down might've helped but regardless the case, Olines need to play together for a while to have some type of cohesiveness. This guy Tmurda is waiting for something to go wrong so he can blame it on Reese but you all flock to his silly thread like flies on ish. This board is something else lol.

GMENAGAIN
09-22-2012, 08:51 AM
Brewer is more suited to play RT. If Beatty plays well this season at LT there is a chance the Giants might not draft an OT early. Also this could be addressed in free agency instead of the draft. It really all comes down to how Beatty plays and if he can stay healthy.

I don't know if the Giants will draft an OT or not next year. But if they don't it's not going to be because James Brewer is on the roster . . . .

moosedrool
09-22-2012, 11:02 AM
Olines need to play together for a while to have some type of cohesiveness.

I think this is one of the biggest myths regarding Olines. Diehl went out and Beatty came in and they played better immediately with Beatty at LT and Locklear shifting to RT.

ozzie0075
09-22-2012, 11:04 AM
I don't know if the Giants will draft an OT or not next year. But if they don't it's not going to be because James Brewer is on the roster . . . .

What is was saying is it depends on how they feel about Brewer at RT. And the Giants have proven that they are going to take the best player available in the draft regardless of position or need.

jomo
09-22-2012, 11:24 AM
During his first (expensive) contract, he's been mostly a developmental player or injured. That would be fine from a 5th rounder but not a second rounder. He has shown some good stuff in small spurts but the bad back is more than worrisome for me. I'd rather use the money in free agency to find a healthy OL.

Who knows, the back may knock down his FA value and we'll get him cheap. It is all about value and using the salary cap wisely. We need a few new capable bodies on the OL so $$ will be stretched thin.

ozzie0075
09-22-2012, 11:28 AM
During his first (expensive) contract, he's been mostly a developmental player or injured. That would be fine from a 5th rounder but not a second rounder. He has shown some good stuff in small spurts but the bad back is more than worrisome for me. I'd rather use the money in free agency to find a healthy OL.

Who knows, the back may knock down his FA value and we'll get him cheap. It is all about value and using the salary cap wisely. We need a few new capable bodies on the OL so $$ will be stretched thin.

His rookie contract was 4 years 2.67 million. Not exactly an expensive contract. He could be looking somewhere around 2.5-3mil per which would be a great deal for a LT.

Fharcyde
09-22-2012, 04:29 PM
As long as his back doesn't act up again then he should be starting without a doubt. Every offseason there's articles about him going up against likes of Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, and Pierre-Paul in drills. If there's any way to be the best it's to beat the best and going up against some of the best DL in football in practice definitely has gotten this kid ready.

slipknottin
09-22-2012, 04:32 PM
His rookie contract was 4 years 2.67 million. Not exactly an expensive contract. He could be looking somewhere around 2.5-3mil per which would be a great deal for a LT.

Yea, that Beatty hasent been a great player thus far may actually be a positive, at least in terms of negotiating a new contract.