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rainierjef
09-24-2012, 04:45 PM
What would be your game plan for Sunday vs. the Eagles?
Arm chair OC/DC time :)


Gilbride: I would spread that defense out. The wide 9 against this Line can prove to be a problem, yes we had a goodshowing last week but really how much pressure was Carolina appliyng vs. pressure we were stopping? I not interested in running a base Shotgun trips formation, more like a single back triple receiver option; occasionally motioning bennett to exploit match-ups. This type of offense will not limit us in running the ball, Brown has good patience at the line of scrimmage. With the defense spread out like this he should be able to create creases for 4-5 yard gains, Eli is smart enough to check out of something and have multiple other plays to check into from this set. Pass to open up the run, get points on the board early and let them play from behind. Forcing them to go to the air against our defense should prove favorable for our DE's.


Fewell: While I would of loved to get physical at the line with our corners; with the Injury to C-web, he is not going to be able to get hands on these receivers, to Jam them as good as we would like for our DE's to get to the QB fast enough. Not sure the extent of Hosley's hamstring injury, to be able to use that fast twitch muscle getting off the jam and trailing the WR. Haven't seen much of prince in man press outside of college to be comfortable yet. I would like to run a majority man cover 2, to keep everything infront of us all while keeping a rotating spy on Vick. Some MLB blitzes to force Vick into the hands of our DE's, on zone reads some CB blitzes. Object of sunday's game is to hit vick as much as possible, within the parameters of the rules or as much as we can get away with ( love those replacement refs...Sigh*)

RoanokeFan
09-24-2012, 05:03 PM
You are a glutton for punishment lol

GMan-67
09-24-2012, 05:15 PM
ha, well this way oversimplifies things, but just some thoughts

i want my front 4 to generate pressure ... i'd rather not have to dial up too many blitzes ... when i blitz id try it more from either the blind side or straight up the middle

i want to guard against the big play ... the Eagles are more of a big play O than a 10 play drive O due to Vick being mistake prone

anytime i can legally get a hit on Vick ... im taking it ... and if i land on him, im taking my time getting up

im going lean towards zone ... again Vick will sometimes throw the ball to you and you want to have eyes on him ... also in case he takes off

on O ... im taking what the Defence gives and trying to maintain somewhat of a balance to slow down their stud pass rushers ... im also going to look to chip their DEs ... id also try some no huddle and/or up tempo O and not just end half/end game ... id love to have their DEs a little winded on a drive or 2 and to mess up their rotation a bit

id throw in some max protect

id love to get it to Cruz a lot ... he had his breakout game vs. them last season ... they are sometimes overly aggressive and can over run things creating opportunities for YAC and big plays

finally, draws and delays in the running game

now the caveat is that the Eagles know all that and then some ... the threat of McCoy can cause our LBs to not drop into zone coverage quickly ... blitzing from the blind side can be negated by screens to McCoy and an overall good day from McCoy can slow down our stud rushers, so stopping him is very important

cant wait for this one !!!

Rudyy
09-24-2012, 05:28 PM
Defense: Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure

pressure..

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PRESSURE.


and then some more pressure.

rainierjef
09-24-2012, 05:41 PM
You are a glutton for punishment lol

lol :)

rainierjef
09-24-2012, 05:45 PM
Defense: Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure

pressure..

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...
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PRESSURE.


and then some more pressure.
lol why didn't I think of this? :P

Diamondring
09-24-2012, 05:47 PM
If I was the DC, I would blitz here and there putting Tuck and Osi on the same side sometimes. Then I would blitz from the same side with looks to confuse the defense. I would make Osi and Tuck do some stunts. Have some dbs double team on some receivers.

As for offense. I would use 3, 4 and some 5 wr sets. I would call screens here and there so that the O-line can go up against some lbs and safeties if the screen in successful. There would be screens to the te and backs. I'll have the rbs and tes come off of some blocks. When running, I'll have mostly draw and delay run plays with some power run plays to keep the defense off guard. Most of the plays I have are well designed so that if there is some trouble, Eli could get rid of the ball. Most of the plays would have quick set ups. One type of screen play I'll have would have receivers run their routes then the back or te block then come out of those blocks. Before they come off those blocks. My motive is to put up a lot of points with no worries of running out the clock.

RichardMc
09-24-2012, 05:55 PM
Defense might want to take the same approach they took with Cam Newton. Don't necessarily play for the sacks but play a contain. Keep Vick from beating them on the ground.At times bring a safety or Nickelback to contain while the D Line tries to bring pressure up the middle. Don't let Vick get outside. Puts pressure on the Secondary but they'll have to step up. Otherwise Vick will have 80 yards rushing and will make throws on the run, which, come to think of it, he has struggled with.

Rudyy
09-24-2012, 06:03 PM
lol why didn't I think of this? :P :D

rainierjef
09-24-2012, 06:04 PM
Defense might want to take the same approach they took with Cam Newton. Don't necessarily play for the sacks but play a contain.
^ This.
Thing is I don't think the Eagles run that Option offense like the panthers do. So while playing to contain is a great idea, we gotta also plant Vick into the ground so that he makes bad decisions, early and often.

Rudyy
09-24-2012, 06:06 PM
^ This.
Thing is I don't think the Eagles run that Option offense like the panthers do. So while playing to contain is a great idea, we gotta also plant Vick into the ground so that he makes bad decisions, early and often. Totally agree.

Actually, Vick seems to make bad decisions all by himself. What a talented guy!

RichardMc
09-24-2012, 06:07 PM
^ This.
we gotta also plant Vick into the ground so that he makes bad decisions, early and often.

Yeah it makes sense. It's a fine line to walk between pressuring him into bad decisions and not letting him take over the game.

TheEnigma
09-24-2012, 06:14 PM
Key Battle on Offense: WIlliam Beatty and Sean Locklear vs. Trent Cole and Jason Babin - If these guys can holdup in pass protection better than Diehl and Kmac did last year, we should see improvement on offense in moving the ball down the field through the air. If they do extremely well and we don't need a RB or TE to help them as often, we should be able to use more personnel to attack their linebackers and create some mismatches.

Key Battle on Defense: JPP vs. LeSean McCoy - Now would be the perfect time for him to have a career game against the run. This is just a small battle in the big picture that will be not only taking away the deep ball but the run game from McCoy as well. Gotta force Vick to throw those intermediate passes into zone coverage to the Hose Man (his new nickname, Diehl with it).

Oh and Weatherford needs to punt like a boss again to force Vick to work long fields.

joemorrisforprez
09-24-2012, 06:36 PM
What would be your game plan for Sunday vs. the Eagles?
Arm chair OC/DC time :)


Gilbride: I would spread that defense out. The wide 9 against this Line can prove to be a problem, yes we had a goodshowing last week but really how much pressure was Carolina appliyng vs. pressure we were stopping? I not interested in running a base Shotgun trips formation, more like a single back triple receiver option; occasionally motioning bennett to exploit match-ups. This type of offense will not limit us in running the ball, Brown has good patience at the line of scrimmage. With the defense spread out like this he should be able to create creases for 4-5 yard gains, Eli is smart enough to check out of something and have multiple other plays to check into from this set. Pass to open up the run, get points on the board early and let them play from behind. Forcing them to go to the air against our defense should prove favorable for our DE's.


Fewell: While I would of loved to get physical at the line with our corners; with the Injury to C-web, he is not going to be able to get hands on these receivers, to Jam them as good as we would like for our DE's to get to the QB fast enough. Not sure the extent of Hosley's hamstring injury, to be able to use that fast twitch muscle getting off the jam and trailing the WR. Haven't seen much of prince in man press outside of college to be comfortable yet. I would like to run a majority man cover 2, to keep everything infront of us all while keeping a rotating spy on Vick. Some MLB blitzes to force Vick into the hands of our DE's, on zone reads some CB blitzes. Object of sunday's game is to hit vick as much as possible, within the parameters of the rules or as much as we can get away with ( love those replacement refs...Sigh*)

Gilbride: Take the crappy gameplan that has lost 7 of the last 8 games and throw it in the toilet. Run Andre Brown straight through the Wide Nine gaps, instead of running a gimpy Bradshaw sideline to sideline, like you normally do.

Fewell: Be agressive, force Vick to make decisions at the line of scrimmage. That fumble return was entirely on Vick yesterday....he failed to account for the blitzer and got whacked.

giantsfam04
09-24-2012, 06:52 PM
On offense do what Arizona did and on defense do what Arizona did.

BeatYale
09-24-2012, 07:25 PM
On offense: run, run, PA bomb or Flea Flicker. Rinse and repeat.

On defense: Full House Blitz with Eli lined up on the LOS next to the DLine, since his girlfriends on the forum think he's the greatest athlete on Earth. Throw in some Cover2 Zone to shake things up every now and then.

miked1958
09-24-2012, 07:26 PM
Defense: Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure..............PRESSURE.and then some more pressure.This

Captain Chaos
09-25-2012, 05:28 AM
I think this is the Game that Bennett really makes his presence felt, I love the TE screen and seem routes; just don't think they can match up there. I also like Wilson's speed this week, hit and git through the holes. Andre will pound, his success will be tied to Hynosorous. Think our best set will be three wide outs, not sure that Philly has the ability to cover everyone. Win the time of possession and keep our D fresh and don't let Vick and company get into any kind of rhythm.

D take the panther's game plan up a notch, Vick is much quicker. Maintain the integrity of their lanes and keep them off balance with the Blitz. We are banged up in the secondary, need to keep an eye on their speedy receivers. That said the Eagles line is beat up so we may be able to get away with just rushing 4 (it would be nice if we had success with that(.

Mercury
09-25-2012, 08:49 AM
I am thoroughly surprised that no one has even mentioned this:

Vs. Vick you bring pressure from the right side forcing him always to move away from it. Yet contain him as he rolls to the left. He is absolutely terrible when he has to throw under those conditions.

GameTime
09-25-2012, 08:53 AM
Contain and confuse Vick and when you have the chance slap the **** out of him. Find a way to contain Shady. I have a feeling with all the hits Vick has already taken they will go for the 3 step dink and dunk.
On offense go to the singled up guys and get the running game going. If the running game stalls get the few TE or Hynocerous screens invloved to soften up the wide 9....

Joe Morrison
09-25-2012, 08:56 AM
I am thoroughly surprised that no one has even mentioned this:

Vs. Vick you bring pressure from the right side forcing him always to move away from it. Yet contain him as he rolls to the left. He is absolutely terrible when he has to throw under those conditions.


That has been the plan for two years, just flipped it on Cam and made him roll to his left, face it, Dline needs to step it up a notch this week, has shown impovement week to week but really needs to bring it this week and not let Vick get any confidence.

RoanokeFan
09-25-2012, 09:10 AM
I would like to see Ojomo healthy and in the rotation.

Flip Empty
09-25-2012, 10:32 AM
Wildcat all day

GameTime
09-25-2012, 11:22 AM
Wildcat all day
yeah....the Giants are great at that. Especially when Eli keeps it and runs for first downs.......:D

Flip Empty
09-25-2012, 11:29 AM
They'd never see it coming.

GameTime
09-25-2012, 11:35 AM
They'd never see it coming.
neither would the Giants.....:cool: