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crazymagician888
10-16-2008, 08:22 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.

Latinoshockeyfan
10-16-2008, 08:26 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.

Dimes
10-16-2008, 08:26 PM
A bummer, but you should be thankful. You got to watch so many Giants games.

Also, on the same note, there are several American families that are going through financial trouble and football is the last thing on their mind. Another reason you should be thankful.

bansaw
10-16-2008, 08:28 PM
that stinks</P>


best get a nice HD TV and Direct TV. Hopefully you will get to one or two games a year in the future</P>

crazymagician888
10-16-2008, 08:29 PM
its just sad for all giants fans in the same situation. what they are doing is wrong. they have four sponsors for the stadium and we still have to shell out for it, plus ticket sales. Some people would have to take out loans to pay for these seats, thats absolutely ridiculous.

SEC105
10-16-2008, 08:37 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.</P>


Best of luck to you my fellowGMAN fan. I got the $5000 notice this week to [2 seats]. I'm sure you read it but they will work withyou on financing if you can swing it. I hope you can work it outsomehow. You deserve it</P>

giantsteps
10-16-2008, 08:43 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.

<font face="Arial">I feel for you and everyone going through this PSL BS. Perhaps the thing that reeks the most about the whole situation is that companies that can afford the seats will just buy them to hand out to clients who may not even be fans. As a result, the many generations of the diehard Giants fans that added to the whole mystique of the experience will be lost just like Tish’s and Mara's vision of what a football team should be.

Did the Giants need a new stadium when the original wasn’t even that old? Probably not, however, as we all know business is all about the dollar, and football is a business. The Giants organization is going to do what it feels necessary in order to profit and it doesn’t include sympathy for the many generations that filled its seats.
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romohater
10-16-2008, 08:43 PM
A bummer, but you should be thankful. You got to watch so many Giants games.

Also, on the same note, there are several American families that are going through financial trouble and football is the last thing on their mind. Another reason you should be thankful.
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True and true.</P>

SEC105
10-16-2008, 08:49 PM
A bummer, but you should be thankful. You got to watch so many Giants games.

Also, on the same note, there are several American families that are going through financial trouble and football is the last thing on their mind. Another reason you should be thankful.
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True and true.</P>


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That puts things in perspective. Empathy for all American families just trying to survive these tough days ahead</P>

daynemustgo
10-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


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BlueBlitzer
10-16-2008, 10:05 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>

NYG_inul
10-16-2008, 10:15 PM
ive been fortunate to only been to two game last year.... its too expensive for me to shell out for 1 game a year and i am happy with that.... i am lucky that the giants come to albany for training camp and i can see them 10 ft to 1ft infront of my face signing autographs and practicing.... its free. that is the best as i can get to getting near the players and giants football

GIANTS_FAN_IN_PITT
10-16-2008, 10:22 PM
supply and demand. i think the prices will drop after 2 seasons when there are less people at games (and there will be...)</P>


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Eli2Plaxico
10-17-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah, Mara and Tisch pulled a fast one when they knew they were going to charge PSLs before the plans for the stadium were even drawn. It was built into the financing for the stadium, but was buried so none of the season ticket holders knew about it until it was too late. I am sure if fans knew about the PSLs beforehand, the stadium would never have been approved because of the public fight against it. Like I said, even in better economic times, it's outrageous for Mara and Tisch to ask for $4,000-$20,000 just for the right to buy tickets. I would never pay it out of principle.

Latinoshockeyfan
10-17-2008, 08:38 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


http://images.inmagine.com/img/inspirestock/ispc026/ispc026073.jpg</P>


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HUH</P>

Latinoshockeyfan
10-17-2008, 08:41 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>


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Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</P>

giantfanatic
10-17-2008, 09:04 PM
The whole stadium financing scheme hatched by the Giants and Jets during the boom times of credit excess will implode in light ofwhat is now going on in the credit market.</P>


The NFL is the next bubble - the corporations will no more shell out this money than the average fan - because they don't have any money either.</P>


Unfortunately for the Giants - and I say this becuase I still believethey are doing this in response to dallas and washington and they areless greedy than mostof the owners in the league -this deal is going to saddle the team with huge debt service in a declining market. Just like a game of musical chairs - the last one standing will not get a seat. </P>


Go watch high school football - thats where you can still get a great experience for a reasonable price. If you need the NFL - get the package and save the rest. We will all need it. </P>

RoanokeFan
10-17-2008, 09:24 PM
supply and demand. i think the prices will drop after 2 seasons when there are less people at games (and there will be...)</p>


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Even if there were less people at the games, which I am pretty sure won't be the case, why would the "prices" go down? There is a waiting list of 30 years now. That list will be reduced to some degree after the PSLs are sorted out and then it will, in all likelihood, bcome dormant as those with PSLs will have the right to sell their PSLs and tickets to whoever will pay the asking price. The number of people in the seats has nothing to do with ticket sales.

Being a ticket holder since 1980, I can tell you a lot of games don't have a body in every seat yet, every game has been sold out. It really is supply and demand and the demand is strong and that's not likely to change any time soon. For every current ticket holder who can't afford seats in the new stadium, there will be dozens of fans on the list who will crawl over anyone they can to get those seats.

Those of us who are tickets holders are very lucky. We enjoy something most fans can only dream about. Just imagine how many GIANTS fans there are and then realize, at best, only 80,000 are able to own PSLs and tickets. Sure, some of the tickets belong to corporations but where I sit it's all individuals/families.

I do feel sorry for fans like the OP. They have been fans for a long time and now they will be priced out of the stadium. In the end, the NFL is a business and that's just the reality of the situation.

RoanokeFan
10-17-2008, 09:29 PM
The whole stadium financing scheme hatched by the Giants and Jets during the boom times of credit excess will implode in light ofwhat is now going on in the credit market.</p>


The NFL is the next bubble - the corporations will no more shell out this money than the average fan - because they don't have any money either.</p>


Unfortunately for the Giants - and I say this becuase I still believethey are doing this in response to dallas and washington and they areless greedy than mostof the owners in the league -this deal is going to saddle the team with huge debt service in a declining market. Just like a game of musical chairs - the last one standing will not get a seat. </p>


Go watch high school football - thats where you can still get a great experience for a reasonable price. If you need the NFL - get the package and save the rest. We will all need it. </p>

Implode? They already borrowed the money they needed from financial institutions. The PSL funds are coming from people like me. For everyone one of us who decides not to participate, for whatever reason, there is a line of people eager to send their money in and that's not doing anything except making the stadium a reality.

davidkan
10-17-2008, 09:39 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.
So the Giants are on in your area?

And you get to go to more than 1 game a year?

<font color="#ff0000">God, do I pity you.</font>

<font color="#000000">Don't take this the wrong way, but there are many families that can't afford season tickets when economic times are good. </font>There are many people that grew up watching the Giants but moved at some point in their lives. I don't think a local football market is anything more than a tie breaker when deciding on a place to live, when you consider, a job, a family, local salary levels, etc.

You got spoiled growing up. I can't tell you how many games I wanted to go to when I was 8-18 years old and living in the market. My father and late grandfather took me to 1 a year, and every year I TRY to go to the stadium for 1 game a year (though with 3 kids who are too young to go it's getting pretty tough to do.) Watching on TV still makes you a part of it. Of course it's more fun to be there. But why should you get to go and not anyone else? I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THEM ON TV ON THE WEEK THAT THEY ARE THE PRIMARY FOX GAME AND MY LOCAL MARKET TEAMS ARE ON CBS! No sympathy here man.

Not trying to insult you, but lets keep things in perspective, huh.....there are people that have lost their homes these days. And you're complaining about not being able to go to a friggin football game. Make a lot of money when you grow up and you can go any time you want. Otherwise, they are usually on broadcast television, so you don't even need to pay for cable to watch them as long as you are lucky enough to live in the area.

RoanokeFan
10-17-2008, 09:45 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.
So the Giants are on in your area?

And you get to go to more than 1 game a year?

<font color="#ff0000">God, do I pity you.</font>

<font color="#000000">Don't take this the wrong way, but there are many families that can't afford season tickets when economic times are good. </font>There are many people that grew up watching the Giants but moved at some point in their lives. I don't think a local football market is anything more than a tie breaker when deciding on a place to live, when you consider, a job, a family, local salary levels, etc.

You got spoiled growing up. I can't tell you how many games I wanted to go to when I was 8-18 years old and living in the market. My father and late grandfather took me to 1 a year, and every year I TRY to go to the stadium for 1 game a year (though with 3 kids who are too young to go it's getting pretty tough to do.) Watching on TV still makes you a part of it. Of course it's more fun to be there. But why should you get to go and not anyone else? I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THEM ON TV ON THE WEEK THAT THEY ARE THE PRIMARY FOX GAME AND MY LOCAL MARKET TEAMS ARE ON CBS! No sympathy here man.

Not trying to insult you, but lets keep things in perspective, huh.....there are people that have lost their homes these days. And you're complaining about not being able to go to a friggin football game. Make a lot of money when you grow up and you can go any time you want. Otherwise, they are usually on broadcast television, so you don't even need to pay for cable to watch them as long as you are lucky enough to live in the area.


AND you can see the game better with all of the cameras the networks have!

davidkan
10-17-2008, 09:58 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.
So the Giants are on in your area?

And you get to go to more than 1 game a year?

<font color="#ff0000">God, do I pity you.</font>

<font color="#000000">Don't take this the wrong way, but there are many families that can't afford season tickets when economic times are good. </font>There are many people that grew up watching the Giants but moved at some point in their lives. I don't think a local football market is anything more than a tie breaker when deciding on a place to live, when you consider, a job, a family, local salary levels, etc.

You got spoiled growing up. I can't tell you how many games I wanted to go to when I was 8-18 years old and living in the market. My father and late grandfather took me to 1 a year, and every year I TRY to go to the stadium for 1 game a year (though with 3 kids who are too young to go it's getting pretty tough to do.) Watching on TV still makes you a part of it. Of course it's more fun to be there. But why should you get to go and not anyone else? I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THEM ON TV ON THE WEEK THAT THEY ARE THE PRIMARY FOX GAME AND MY LOCAL MARKET TEAMS ARE ON CBS! No sympathy here man.

Not trying to insult you, but lets keep things in perspective, huh.....there are people that have lost their homes these days. And you're complaining about not being able to go to a friggin football game. Make a lot of money when you grow up and you can go any time you want. Otherwise, they are usually on broadcast television, so you don't even need to pay for cable to watch them as long as you are lucky enough to live in the area.


AND you can see the game better with all of the cameras the networks have!

Not this week. It sucks. To the OP....sorry I'm being so bitter. You seem like a good guy, but I'm pissed at Fox (what else is new, though usually it's their "news" network and those they cover....)

giantfanatic
10-17-2008, 10:06 PM
The assumptions that one might have made when this scheme was hatched probably includedan expectation that "eager" people on line would step up to the plate and replace our friend who started this thread- but I susupect that many of those people may be less ableto pony up now sincewall street bonuses,commerical real estate commissions,construction related fees - just about all sourcesof big dollar incomehastaken a serious smackdown. So I would expect lower PSL sale income and that means just more of the financing cost goes to the team.I'm sure the stadium gets finished, but the deal is going smell worsefor the Giants. </P>


The Giants may have gotten all of the money they needed to build the stadium ( I don't claim to know - but I suspect that the financing source has wobbledsomewhat in light of recent developments). If they got the money, then they have the debttoo - lots of it, like amounts that the Mara's have never seen before...which means a ton of debt service is coming dueat a time when the consumer is completely tapped out . On the horizon,I would expectless in terms of TV revenue (whenever that deal is up for renewal), less in terms of merchadise sales (main street america ain't buying the third jersey anymore - they need to scrimp for food), and less in concessions (because that money was spent on the parking). Less income and more expense is a bad business trend - sound like our government. </P>


The stadium will be completed. A thousand commercial real estate projects will be completed in the next couple of years too. Most of them will be vacant with tall weeds around the perimter. These deals were struck in another world. </P>


Ultimately, the Giants, the NFL, and all sportsgambled that they wouldre-coup their investment at our expense and still turn a profit. In this regard, I think they will get burned - </P>


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RoanokeFan
10-17-2008, 10:18 PM
The assumptions that one might have made when this scheme was hatched probably includedan expectation that "eager" people on line would step up to the plate and replace our friend who started this thread- but I susupect that many of those people may be less ableto pony up now sincewall street bonuses,commerical real estate commissions,construction related fees - just about all sourcesof big dollar incomehastaken a serious smackdown. So I would expect lower PSL sale income and that means just more of the financing cost goes to the team.I'm sure the stadium gets finished, but the deal is going smell worsefor the Giants. </p>


The Giants may have gotten all of the money they needed to build the stadium ( I don't claim to know - but I suspect that the financing source has wobbledsomewhat in light of recent developments). If they got the money, then they have the debttoo - lots of it, like amounts that the Mara's have never seen before...which means a ton of debt service is coming dueat a time when the consumer is completely tapped out . On the horizon,I would expectless in terms of TV revenue (whenever that deal is up for renewal), less in terms of merchadise sales (main street america ain't buying the third jersey anymore - they need to scrimp for food), and less in concessions (because that money was spent on the parking). Less income and more expense is a bad business trend - sound like our government. </p>


The stadium will be completed. A thousand commercial real estate projects will be completed in the next couple of years too. Most of them will be vacant with tall weeds around the perimter. These deals were struck in another world. </p>


Ultimately, the Giants, the NFL, and all sportsgambled that they wouldre-coup their investment at our expense and still turn a profit. In this regard, I think they will get burned - </p>


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It will be well into 2009 when the results of of the current effort are known. That means what current tickets holders will get seats in the new building. Once that's known, phase two, the waiting list, will kick into gear. Once that's done seats will be allocated based upon preference, tenure and current seat location. In all three years, the organization will be getting money form prospective PSL owners. Assuming past is prologue the market will be on the upswing by then and money will be more available.

All of the PSLs will be sold. That's the first goal and it will be met.

ngk4567
10-17-2008, 10:22 PM
Complete Moron Alert.

ngk4567
10-17-2008, 10:24 PM
<DIV id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___Reply>Latinoshockeyfan wrote the following post at 10-16-2008 7:26 PM:
<DIV class=ForumReplyToPostArea>Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again. </DIV>
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<DIV class=ForumReplyToPostArea>Complete Moron Alert.</DIV></DIV>

krygny
10-17-2008, 11:00 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</p>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</p>


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Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</p>
I recall a sticky thread by a mod a few weeks ago. Discussing politics or religion will get you banned immediately, no questions asked, no appeals.

FeaglesPuntsEaglesRunts
10-17-2008, 11:12 PM
Yeah, Mara and Tisch pulled a fast one when they knew they were going to charge PSLs before the plans for the stadium were even drawn. It was built into the financing for the stadium, but was buried so none of the season ticket holders knew about it until it was too late. I am sure if fans knew about the PSLs beforehand, the stadium would never have been approved because of the public fight against it. Like I said, even in better economic times, it's outrageous for Mara and Tisch to ask for $4,000-$20,000 just for the right to buy tickets. I would never pay it out of principle.

Yeah, this is something I wouldn't expect the Mara name to be associated with.

Jerry Jones yes, but not Mara. Makes me lose a lot of respect for our owners.

Dorkasaurus
10-17-2008, 11:18 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Explain to my what PSL have to do with Bush?</P>

Dorkasaurus
10-17-2008, 11:21 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>


</P>


Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</P>


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Why is it Bushes fault that he could not afford the PSL?</P>


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Dorkasaurus
10-17-2008, 11:24 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>


</P>


Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</P>


</P>


I lost a sock in the dryer is that Bush's fault?</P>

Manning2Shock803
10-17-2008, 11:32 PM
I feel that this is the only way to make me feel better. I, myself have been going to Giants games since I was 8-years old, splitting the games with two of my uncles. When my dad realized how much of a love I had for the sport and for the Giants I starting attending every single home game. I haven't missed a home game in 10 years and unfortunately I now know that my streak will most likely come to an end. I got the dreaded phone call from the person who my father and I get our season tickets from and of course it concerned the PSL's. Luckily our seats were going for $4,000 a piece but unfortunately these tough economic times have hit my family hard. These sundays that we all share together as part of the NFL family are very special to me because it is when I spend the majority of my time with my father. Does the NFL care? No. Does the Giants organization care? No. It all comes down to the almighty dollar and fancy "ammenities" that the Giants think the fans are looking forward to. Do I need a state of the art tailgating area? No. Cushioned seats? No. Waiter service? No. I've been going to Giants games for one reason and one reason only. To watch the New York Football Giants play the greatest game in the world. But now, I will be stuck at home watching the game instead of being apart of the greatest team and greatest game.
So the Giants are on in your area?

And you get to go to more than 1 game a year?

<FONT color=#ff0000>God, do I pity you.</FONT>

<FONT color=#000000>Don't take this the wrong way, but there are many families that can't afford season tickets when economic times are good. </FONT>There are many people that grew up watching the Giants but moved at some point in their lives. I don't think a local football market is anything more than a tie breaker when deciding on a place to live, when you consider, a job, a family, local salary levels, etc.

You got spoiled growing up. I can't tell you how many games I wanted to go to when I was 8-18 years old and living in the market. My father and late grandfather took me to 1 a year, and every year I TRY to go to the stadium for 1 game a year (though with 3 kids who are too young to go it's getting pretty tough to do.) Watching on TV still makes you a part of it. Of course it's more fun to be there. But why should you get to go and not anyone else? I CAN'T EVEN WATCH THEM ON TV ON THE WEEK THAT THEY ARE THE PRIMARY FOX GAME AND MY LOCAL MARKET TEAMS ARE ON CBS! No sympathy here man.

Not trying to insult you, but lets keep things in perspective, huh.....there are people that have lost their homes these days. And you're complaining about not being able to go to a friggin football game. Make a lot of money when you grow up and you can go any time you want. Otherwise, they are usually on broadcast television, so you don't even need to pay for cable to watch them as long as you are lucky enough to live in the area.
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My thoughts exactly. I've never been to a Giants game, they've been too expensive for me for years, and obviously are now with the PSL's, but I'm not complaining. I usually get to see them on TV unless I'm working or watching the kid, that's enough for me. I honestly don't feel bad for you, if your that strained formoney, you shouldn't be going to games in the first place, save your money.</P>

Manning2Shock803
10-17-2008, 11:34 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>


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Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</P>


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I lost a sock in the dryer is that Bush's fault?</P>


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No, that's your fault if you lost something, yet you know where it is, they call that stupidity. Anyway,how does that remotely relate to what he said? If you claim that Bush has nothing to do with this country's financial crisis, you need to take your republican blinders off.</P>

Manning2Shock803
10-17-2008, 11:36 PM
<DIV id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___Reply>Latinoshockeyfan wrote the following post at 10-16-2008 7:26 PM:
<DIV class=ForumReplyToPostArea>Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again. </DIV>
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<DIV class=ForumReplyToPostArea>Complete Moron Alert.</DIV></DIV>


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Yup. And he doesn't know how to work the quote button.</P>

daynemustgo
10-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Sorry to hear that. I wish there was something I could do for you and your family... Blame Bush and please never vote for a Bush or anyone like Bush ever again.</P>


Keep your dopey politics to your self, or you'll be banned</P>


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Mind your dopey business. I commented on the guys sad issue using the probable cause of it.. I didn't have along drawn out political conversation with anyone so why the hell would I get banned for using Bush's name twice?</P>


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I lost a sock in the dryer is that Bush's fault?</P>


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No, that's your fault if you lost something, yet you know where it is, they call that stupidity. Anyway,how does that remotely relate to what he said? If you claim that Bush has nothing to do with this country's financial crisis, you need to take your republican blinders off.</P>


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But to single out Bush and anyone named Bush is equally stupid. (e.g. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and C Schumer -Fannie Mae &amp;Freddie Mac -CRA ACORN)</P>

crazymagician888
03-31-2010, 11:24 PM
I posted this a long time ago when the PSL's were first announced sayingt I had been on the list since I was 1 years old and would not be getting the PSL's due to financial issues. This post wasn't directed to those who didn't have the opportunity to go to as many games as I did but people who have had tickets in their family for years. The past couple months I've been in contact with someone from the PSL company and now after busting my *** for 2 years going to school full time, working overnights full time, and coaching youth football part time, I will be purchasing 2 Mezzanine PSL's tomorrow. To those who said they dont feel bad and dont pity me, I wasn't looking for pity. I understand other families go through worse things in their life but to me Giants football is life. I was looking to vent on a forum of fellow Giant fans who were going through the same thing. To those who were hating and didn't get tickets, enjoy the games from home, and to those who have been lucky and fortunate enough to get seats, enjoy!

Chaosist
03-31-2010, 11:37 PM
I posted this a long time ago when the PSL's were first announced sayingt I had been on the list since I was 1 years old and would not be getting the PSL's due to financial issues. This post wasn't directed to those who didn't have the opportunity to go to as many games as I did but people who have had tickets in their family for years. The past couple months I've been in contact with someone from the PSL company and now after busting my *** for 2 years going to school full time, working overnights full time, and coaching youth football part time, I will be purchasing 2 Mezzanine PSL's tomorrow. To those who said they dont feel bad and dont pity me, I wasn't looking for pity. I understand other families go through worse things in their life but to me Giants football is life. I was looking to vent on a forum of fellow Giant fans who were going through the same thing. To those who were hating and didn't get tickets, enjoy the games from home, and to those who have been lucky and fortunate enough to get seats, enjoy!</P>


You get my early vote for Necropost of the Year.</P>


Glad to hear that you were able to get your tickets/PSL's.</P>

GIANTSPEWPEW
03-31-2010, 11:42 PM
dude you got to see the giants live for 10 years thats 9 years and 15 games more than some of us on here ( 9 years and 8 games for me) nothing wrong with watching it on television just get a big screen like me 60 inches nice recliner and kick it with pops man its all good theres better thing to worry about in this recession than season tickets... BLAME BUSH!!!