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NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 07:19 PM
A lot of guys are making it a lot easier to manage our payroll next season. Could be a lot of surprising cuts.

I don't know how things will play out and it's still early in the season but there's a lot of players don't performing up to expectations.


Webster - Started off the season poorly and now he's injured if anything his salary will come down when he restructures
Tuck could possibly retire because his hearts not in it anymore, sadly
Osi - too much money
Nicks - Guy gets injured every season as great as he is and he is GREAT could help us sign him cheaper than expected
Rivers - Injury prone
Rolle - Makes too much for spotty play
Diehl - worn down... one of the last class acts and long time true Giants... sad to say



Cruz & JPP will command large contracts.

We will need to resign Cruz and Bennett. Bennett is everything we could ever want in a TE. EVERYTHING. He is a must.





Pos
Player
FA Status
Previous Team
Current Team


WR

Ramses Barden (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/NFL/ramses-barden)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


WR
Victor Cruz (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/NFL/victor-cruz)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Travis Beckum (http://www.kffl.com/player/20811/NFL/travis-beckum)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Martellus Bennett (http://www.kffl.com/player/18302/NFL/martellus-bennett)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


PK
Lawrence Tynes (http://www.kffl.com/player/9597/NFL/lawrence-tynes)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OT
William Beatty (http://www.kffl.com/player/20769/NFL/william-beatty)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OG
Kevin Boothe (http://www.kffl.com/player/14777/NFL/kevin-boothe)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Shaun Rogers (http://www.kffl.com/player/650/NFL/shaun-rogers)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Osi Umenyiora (http://www.kffl.com/player/7514/NFL/osi-umenyiora)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Chase Blackburn (http://www.kffl.com/player/12316/NFL/chase-blackburn)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Zak DeOssie (http://www.kffl.com/player/16358/NFL/zak-deossie)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


CB
Brian Witherspoon (http://www.kffl.com/player/19621/NFL/brian-witherspoon)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


SS
Kenny Phillips (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/NFL/kenny-phillips)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/nfl/news)





Read more: http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2013#ixzz285Xq4kEK


Need to resign KP, Boothe, Beatty, Cruz, Bennett, DeOssie, Tynes & possibly Barden.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Here's a better depiction http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/yearly/




Ramses Barden (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/ramses-barden/) at

at
565,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


William Beatty (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/william-beatty/) at
at
615,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Martellus Bennett (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/martellus-bennett/) at
at
2,500,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Rocky Bernard (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/rocky-bernard/) at
at
925,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Chase Blackburn (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/chase-blackburn/) at
at
825,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Kevin Boothe (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kevin-boothe/) at
at
1,500,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Andre Brown (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/andre-brown/) at
at
465,000
RFA
-
-
-
at


Stevie Brown (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/stevie-brown/) at

at
540,000
RFA
-
-
-
at


David Carr (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/david-carr/) at
at
925,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Michael Coe (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/michael-coe/) at
at
700,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Jim Cordle (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/jim-cordle/) at

at
465,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Victor Cruz (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/victor-cruz/) at
at
490,000
RFA
-
-
-
at


Domenik Hixon (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/domenik-hixon/) at
at
615,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Sean Locklear (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/sean-locklear/) at
at
825,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Bear Pascoe (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/bear-pascoe/) at
at
615,000
RFA
-
-
-
at


Kenny Phillips (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kenny-phillips/) at
at
2,080,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Keith Rivers (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/keith-rivers/) at
at
2,160,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Adrian Tracy (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/adrian-tracy/) at

at
540,000
RFA
-
-
-
at


Justin Tryon (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/justin-tryon/) at
at
700,000
UFA
-
-
-
at


Lawrence Tynes (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/lawrence-tynes/) at
at
1,300,000
UFA
-



And they forgot Osi

Eliscruzzz
10-01-2012, 07:32 PM
I agree with everyone except Nicks,Tuck, and Rolle..... Nicks is too important to this offense to let him walk cause this will not be the SS situation it will come back and bite us in the butt, could you image if Dallas picked him up or the Redskins, Patriots no way we let him walk cause once he is healthy he is a top 5 talent...I really believe Tuck is missing Canty right now he demands so much attention next to Tuck and you can see where he is missed, Last Rolle to me is a beast a leader and a hell of a run stopper.

Drez
10-01-2012, 07:39 PM
A lot of guys are making it a lot easier to manage our payroll next season. Could be a lot of surprising cuts.

I don't know how things will play out and it's still early in the season but there's a lot of players don't performing up to expectations.


Webster - Started off the season poorly and now he's injured if anything his salary will come down when he restructures
Tuck could possibly retire because his hearts not in it anymore, sadly
Osi - too much money
Nicks - Guy gets injured every season as great as he is and he is GREAT could help us sign him cheaper than expected
Rivers - Injury prone
Rolle - Makes too much for spotty play
Diehl - worn down... one of the last class acts and long time true Giants... sad to say



Cruz & JPP will command large contracts.

We will need to resign Cruz and Bennett. Bennett is everything we could ever want in a TE. EVERYTHING. He is a must.





Pos
Player
FA Status
Previous Team
Current Team


WR
Ramses Barden (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/NFL/ramses-barden)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


WR
Victor Cruz (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/NFL/victor-cruz)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Travis Beckum (http://www.kffl.com/player/20811/NFL/travis-beckum)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Martellus Bennett (http://www.kffl.com/player/18302/NFL/martellus-bennett)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


PK
Lawrence Tynes (http://www.kffl.com/player/9597/NFL/lawrence-tynes)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OT
William Beatty (http://www.kffl.com/player/20769/NFL/william-beatty)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OG
Kevin Boothe (http://www.kffl.com/player/14777/NFL/kevin-boothe)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Shaun Rogers (http://www.kffl.com/player/650/NFL/shaun-rogers)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Osi Umenyiora (http://www.kffl.com/player/7514/NFL/osi-umenyiora)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Chase Blackburn (http://www.kffl.com/player/12316/NFL/chase-blackburn)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Zak DeOssie (http://www.kffl.com/player/16358/NFL/zak-deossie)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


CB
Brian Witherspoon (http://www.kffl.com/player/19621/NFL/brian-witherspoon)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


SS
Kenny Phillips (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/NFL/kenny-phillips)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/nfl/news)






Read more: http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2013#ixzz285Xq4kEK


Need to resign KP, Boothe, Beatty, Cruz, Bennett, DeOssie, Tynes & possibly Barden.
Osi is a FA and isn't likely to be resigned regardless of his play.

Rivers was a throw something against the wall and see what sticks kind of move.

When Webster resigns of course it will be for less. He isn't in his prime anymore. He'll be 33 (or near enough) when his contract expires.

Rolle has played very well, save for a few plays.

I doubt Tuck retires.

Nicks, you very well may be right about.

DeOssie, Tynes, and Barden won't cost much to resign (saying Barden doesn't beast out the rest of the season). Boothe will probably command a moderate contract. Still too early to tell what kind of contract Bennett will get. Beatty will get a decent, but not top end LT contract. Both KP and Cruz will need to get paid big money.

FUUFNF
10-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Let's see how the season plays out before we start taking contracts... But Cruz and Bennett are definitely guys that need to be resigned... But other than that, there's not a whole lotta guys on that list that I think are must keepers.

jax5338
10-01-2012, 07:47 PM
lol if last year taught us anything lets let it be that let's not count this team or anyone out just yet. sure, some guys look like a shell of their former selves right now, but if the last 5 years have taught us anything, it's that sometimes the giants need a little wake up call and a nice kick in the *** to get them going.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 07:55 PM
I agree with everyone except Nicks,Tuck, and Rolle..... Nicks is too important to this offense to let him walk cause this will not be the SS situation it will come back and bite us in the butt, could you image if Dallas picked him up or the Redskins, Patriots no way we let him walk cause once he is healthy he is a top 5 talent...I really believe Tuck is missing Canty right now he demands so much attention next to Tuck and you can see where he is missed, Last Rolle to me is a beast a leader and a hell of a run stopper.
Where did I say to let Nicks walk? :confused:

Tuck said he almost retied last season. If this keeps up I could see him retiring next year.

Rolle makes $7,000,000 way too much. He will either be cut or restructured to a MUCH lesser amount.

Eliscruzzz
10-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Where did I say to let Nicks walk? :confused:

Tuck said he almost retied last season. If this keeps up I could see him retiring next year.

Rolle makes $7,000,000 way too much. He will either be cut or restructured to a MUCH lesser amount. you had him on your little list above so I assumed you were talking about him but anyway I really don't think Nicks is going to stay for a cheap contract he is a top 5 talent he and his agent are going to pull up the #'s and demand the money he deserves just my opinion though and I say pay him.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 08:44 PM
you had him on your little list above so I assumed you were talking about him but anyway I really don't think Nicks is going to stay for a cheap contract he is a top 5 talent he and his agent are going to pull up the #'s and demand the money he deserves just my opinion though and I say pay him.

Nicks and Cruz will both get their big long-term contracts from us.

It just sucks that Nicks is often injured.

Toadofsteel
10-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Obviously things will change as the season progresses, but as I see it here's the decisions I would make (all values listed are 2012 cap hits):

The following I would keep at all costs:
-Victor Cruz (490,000 RFA)

The following I would keep at or near current rate:
-Martellus Bennett (2,500,000 UFA)
-Keith Rivers (2,160,000 UFA)
-Kevin Boothe (1,500,000 UFA)
-Lawrence Tynes (1,300,000 UFA)
-William Beatty (615,000 UFA)
-Domenik Hixon (615,000 UFA)
-Adrian Tracy (540,000 RFA)
-Stevie Brown (540,000 RFA)
-Andre Brown (465,000 RFA)
-Jim Cordle (465,000 UFA)

The following I would offer reduced contracts, but not resign at current rate:
-Chase Blackburn (825,000 UFA)
-Michael Coe (700,000 UFA)
-Justin Tryon (700,000 UFA)

The following I would drop:
-Osi Umenyiora (6,000,000 UFA)
-Kenny Phillips (2,080,000 UFA) (cap casualty, but with the emergence of young safeties as of late I think we need to let him go. It's unfortunate, but such is life, savings: 2080k)
-Rocky Bernard (925,000 UFA) (cap casualty, not to mention he was really only resigned this year after Canty went down, savings: 925k)
-David Carr (925,000 UFA): DROP (replace with Perriloux at a lower rate, maybe 500k or so, savings: 425k)
-Sean Locklear (825,000 UFA): (for now; it appears to me as though he's just a stopgap, hopefully Brewer can step up or we can draft a good tackle, savings: 825k)
-Bear Pascoe (615,000 RFA): (cap casualty, savings: 615k)
-Ramses Barden (565,000 UFA): MASSIVE DROP (savings: 565k)

Just by dropping the players listed, that saves us $5.435 million on our cap. On top of that, I would also try to find a way to release DD (hes going to hit our cap with a whopping $7.45 million in 2013 and basically be a backup at best, but I don't know the details of the contract so I don't know what releasing him would do to our cap)

Drez
10-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Obviously things will change as the season progresses, but as I see it here's the decisions I would make (all values listed are 2012 cap hits):

The following I would keep at all costs:
-Victor Cruz (490,000 RFA)

The following I would keep at or near current rate:
-Martellus Bennett (2,500,000 UFA) (His contract is heavily incentive laden. What he'll get next year will depend on this one plays out)
-Keith Rivers (2,160,000 UFA) (Another incentive laden contract. He will probably command about this much after the season, too)
-Kevin Boothe (1,500,000 UFA) (I'm sure we can resign him for about twice that. Not too sure what above average guards get, but $3m give or take $500k doesn't seem too exorbitant)
-Lawrence Tynes (1,300,000 UFA)
-William Beatty (615,000 UFA) (Vet Min)
-Domenik Hixon (615,000 UFA) (Vet Min)
-Adrian Tracy (540,000 RFA) (Vet Min)
-Stevie Brown (540,000 RFA) (Vet Min)
-Andre Brown (465,000 RFA) (Vet Min)
-Jim Cordle (465,000 UFA) (Vet Min)

The following I would offer reduced contracts, but not resign at current rate:
-Chase Blackburn (825,000 UFA) (Vet Min)
-Michael Coe (700,000 UFA) (Vet Min)
-Justin Tryon (700,000 UFA) ((Vet Min)

The following I would drop:
-Osi Umenyiora (6,000,000 UFA)
-Kenny Phillips (2,080,000 UFA) (cap casualty, but with the emergence of young safeties as of late I think we need to let him go. It's unfortunate, but such is life, savings: 2080k)
-Rocky Bernard (925,000 UFA) (cap casualty, not to mention he was really only resigned this year after Canty went down, savings: 925k) (Vet Min)
-David Carr (925,000 UFA): DROP (replace with Perriloux at a lower rate, maybe 500k or so, savings: 425k) (Vet Min) (And you're freaking crazy if you'd rather Perriloux)
-Sean Locklear (825,000 UFA): (for now; it appears to me as though he's just a stopgap, hopefully Brewer can step up or we can draft a good tackle, savings: 825k) (Vet Min)
-Bear Pascoe (615,000 RFA): (cap casualty, savings: 615k) (Vet Min, or close enough to make no difference)
-Ramses Barden (565,000 UFA): MASSIVE DROP (savings: 565k) (Vet Min, meaning Vet min for a 4 year player will be about that much money)

Just by dropping the players listed, that saves us $5.435 million on our cap. On top of that, I would also try to find a way to release DD (hes going to hit our cap with a whopping $7.45 million in 2013 and basically be a backup at best, but I don't know the details of the contract so I don't know what releasing him would do to our cap)
You can't just drop all those players without signing others that cost about the same. Almost everyone you listed is on a minimum contract or near minimum contract (excepting Osi and KP). You'd end up saving almost no money, yet lose players that are either decent or know the system.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 09:50 PM
Obviously things will change as the season progresses, but as I see it here's the decisions I would make (all values listed are 2012 cap hits):

The following I would keep at all costs:
-Victor Cruz (490,000 RFA)

The following I would keep at or near current rate:
-Martellus Bennett (2,500,000 UFA)
-Keith Rivers (2,160,000 UFA)
-Kevin Boothe (1,500,000 UFA)
-Lawrence Tynes (1,300,000 UFA)
-William Beatty (615,000 UFA)
-Domenik Hixon (615,000 UFA)
-Adrian Tracy (540,000 RFA)
-Stevie Brown (540,000 RFA)
-Andre Brown (465,000 RFA)
-Jim Cordle (465,000 UFA)

The following I would offer reduced contracts, but not resign at current rate:
-Chase Blackburn (825,000 UFA)
-Michael Coe (700,000 UFA)
-Justin Tryon (700,000 UFA)

The following I would drop:
-Osi Umenyiora (6,000,000 UFA)
-Kenny Phillips (2,080,000 UFA) (cap casualty, but with the emergence of young safeties as of late I think we need to let him go. It's unfortunate, but such is life, savings: 2080k)
-Rocky Bernard (925,000 UFA) (cap casualty, not to mention he was really only resigned this year after Canty went down, savings: 925k)
-David Carr (925,000 UFA): DROP (replace with Perriloux at a lower rate, maybe 500k or so, savings: 425k)
-Sean Locklear (825,000 UFA): (for now; it appears to me as though he's just a stopgap, hopefully Brewer can step up or we can draft a good tackle, savings: 825k)
-Bear Pascoe (615,000 RFA): (cap casualty, savings: 615k)
-Ramses Barden (565,000 UFA): MASSIVE DROP (savings: 565k)

Just by dropping the players listed, that saves us $5.435 million on our cap. On top of that, I would also try to find a way to release DD (hes going to hit our cap with a whopping $7.45 million in 2013 and basically be a backup at best, but I don't know the details of the contract so I don't know what releasing him would do to our cap)
You want us to cut our best safety? Absolutely not.

Toadofsteel
10-01-2012, 09:53 PM
I welcome your proposals to save money. I'd rather lose KP knowing that Hill and Stevie are behind him, than lose Cruz and have to resort to Barden,,,

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 09:55 PM
I welcome your proposals to save money. I'd rather lose KP knowing that Hill and Stevie are behind him, than lose Cruz and have to resort to Barden,,,

Dude KP is a proven top 10 safety, Stevie Brown played well last night in run support, he's far from a long term answer.

Will Hill same thing. Let's see what's there first. I do like Will Hill though and I like his name haha

Toadofsteel
10-01-2012, 10:15 PM
Dude KP is a proven top 10 safety, Stevie Brown played well last night in run support, he's far from a long term answer.

Will Hill same thing. Let's see what's there first. I do like Will Hill though and I like his name haha

Well, if we can get rid of DD early with no cap penalty, then do that first. I just can't imagine we'd go without giving Cruz and Nicks their due...

DemandedAce
10-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Anyone saying to drop KP doesn't know football lol

FBomb
10-01-2012, 10:43 PM
A lot of guys are making it a lot easier to manage our payroll next season. Could be a lot of surprising cuts.

I don't know how things will play out and it's still early in the season but there's a lot of players don't performing up to expectations.


Webster - Started off the season poorly and now he's injured if anything his salary will come down when he restructures
Tuck could possibly retire because his hearts not in it anymore, sadly
Osi - too much money
Nicks - Guy gets injured every season as great as he is and he is GREAT could help us sign him cheaper than expected
Rivers - Injury prone
Rolle - Makes too much for spotty play
Diehl - worn down... one of the last class acts and long time true Giants... sad to say



Cruz & JPP will command large contracts.

We will need to resign Cruz and Bennett. Bennett is everything we could ever want in a TE. EVERYTHING. He is a must.





Pos
Player
FA Status
Previous Team
Current Team


WR

Ramses Barden (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/NFL/ramses-barden)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/20874/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


WR
Victor Cruz (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/NFL/victor-cruz)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/23206/nfl/news)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Travis Beckum (http://www.kffl.com/player/20811/NFL/travis-beckum)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


TE
Martellus Bennett (http://www.kffl.com/player/18302/NFL/martellus-bennett)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


PK
Lawrence Tynes (http://www.kffl.com/player/9597/NFL/lawrence-tynes)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OT
William Beatty (http://www.kffl.com/player/20769/NFL/william-beatty)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


OG
Kevin Boothe (http://www.kffl.com/player/14777/NFL/kevin-boothe)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Shaun Rogers (http://www.kffl.com/player/650/NFL/shaun-rogers)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


DL
Osi Umenyiora (http://www.kffl.com/player/7514/NFL/osi-umenyiora)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Chase Blackburn (http://www.kffl.com/player/12316/NFL/chase-blackburn)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


LB
Zak DeOssie (http://www.kffl.com/player/16358/NFL/zak-deossie)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


CB
Brian Witherspoon (http://www.kffl.com/player/19621/NFL/brian-witherspoon)
UFA
New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/NFL/new-york-giants)
Free Agent (http://www.kffl.com/team/38/NFL/free-agent)


SS
Kenny Phillips (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/NFL/kenny-phillips)http://www.kffl.com/stats_analyzer/alert.gif (http://www.kffl.com/player/18367/nfl/news)





Read more: http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2013#ixzz285Xq4kEK


Need to resign KP, Boothe, Beatty, Cruz, Bennett, DeOssie, Tynes & possibly Barden.

Careful.....there may be a baby in all that bath water you're throwing out!!

Good Lord....4 games in and the panic is sickening,

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Careful.....there may be a baby in all that bath water you're throwing out!!

Good Lord....4 games in and the panic is sickening,

No panic at all, just realization.

I'm not saying to cut all the mentioned. I'm simply saying it might play into Reese's decision if they don't turn things around this season.

FBomb
10-01-2012, 10:48 PM
No panic at all, just realization.

I'm not saying to cut all the mentioned. I'm simply saying it might play into Reese's decision if they don't turn things around this season.


Exactly....and at 4 games in....that is the textbook definition of panic.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-01-2012, 10:51 PM
Exactly....and at 4 games in....that is the textbook definition of panic.

Panic about what? We're 2-2 you have me misunderstood or something.

FBomb
10-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Panic about what? We're 2-2 you have me misunderstood or something.

This is a conversation you start AFTER the Giants have been elminated from playoff contention....NOT 4 games in. This team plays it's best football when it's back is against the wall. So many of you are jumping the gun and talking about who should go and who should stay when MOST of them were on the 9-7 team that went on to win the SB last year.

I haven't responded to the others because it is the norm around here after a loss, but you are one of the more passionate "homer" posters on the board but you're also one of the quickest to throw your hands up in the air when things don't go well.

I get it, I'm angry too......but it's just far too early for this kind of discussion. It really is.


edit...the "homer" comment was not meant as an insult since I fall into that category as well.

Flip Empty
10-02-2012, 01:29 AM
You do realise that restructuring doesn't actually lower the value of a player's contract, right? It just lowers the hit for one year and raises it for another. Eli's back-end is so bloated it's going to make it difficult to retain some players. It's quite a mess.

Anyway, I agree that this is a discussion you have at the end of a season, not at the beginning. Amazing how quick fans are to jump.

giant-4-life
10-02-2012, 01:43 AM
Trim Osi for sure. we will have an issue. Tuck isn't in it with his heart. that is a gimme. keep blackburn. kid has heart.

next draft I see taking some O-linemen and a couple DE's

BlueSanta
10-02-2012, 05:31 AM
I have mentioned this recently in other threads but I do not think the Giants will bring Canty back under his current contract. There are very strong rumors that the late offseason knee surgery he had was in fact microfracture surgery. We will know soon enough, but if it was mf surgery you can kiss this season goodbye, he will not come off the IR. Furthermore, that surgery has a long recovery time(18+ months), and recovery isnt guaranteed. You cannot have a guy get paid that much with that much uncertainty.


I also think KP's resigning will be jeopordy not because of lack of ability but because of his microfracture surgery a couple years ago, That surgery is a career shortener for a speed position.

Captain Chaos
10-02-2012, 05:37 AM
You can't just drop all those players without signing others that cost about the same. Almost everyone you listed is on a minimum contract or near minimum contract (excepting Osi and KP). You'd end up saving almost no money, yet lose players that are either decent or know the system.

I was thinking the same thing when I read his post. Besides isn't it a little early to be making this call? Thought we should maybe play 16 games or so before we start looking at this type of thing....

Harooni
10-02-2012, 05:58 AM
Rolle's cap figure is 9mill this season , he should have been a cap casualty already. As for next season Snee's figure is very large. Would like to do something there as i feel he is only on the decline. Boley, tuck and dhiel webster would be on my list to evaluate at the end of the season. Osi wont be a problem he will hit FA good luck to him. Re signing - cruz and hixon ,would be a goal of mine. Id look at kickers as well.

NYG4lifeNYK
10-02-2012, 02:32 PM
This is a conversation you start AFTER the Giants have been elminated from playoff contention....NOT 4 games in. This team plays it's best football when it's back is against the wall. So many of you are jumping the gun and talking about who should go and who should stay when MOST of them were on the 9-7 team that went on to win the SB last year.

I haven't responded to the others because it is the norm around here after a loss, but you are one of the more passionate "homer" posters on the board but you're also one of the quickest to throw your hands up in the air when things don't go well.

I get it, I'm angry too......but it's just far too early for this kind of discussion. It really is.


edit...the "homer" comment was not meant as an insult since I fall into that category as well.

I hear you but it's just a discussion to have instead of talking about the loss. I'm not really bashing any player moreso saying that if they don't step up they will make our decision making a little easier.

We have a lot of contracts to hand out next season.


I don't throw players under the bus but players are not immune from being criticized. I'm not overly calling players out.


Oh and http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g76/knicksdotcom/Sports and Misc/Homer.jpg haha