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rebelfan1966
12-18-2011, 04:10 PM
I have never said we need to fire our coach.... but am now of that mindset. I love Coach Coughlin....BUT.....when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>


Sure, we have had injuries... but so have other teams.... and they overcame them. We consistently fall on our own sword in key games, against teams we are supposed to beat. That tells me our coaches are not getting players ready. The scheme is not sound. The intensity is lacking. It is a problem on both sides of the ball, and every player "today" did not play up to their potential. </P>

dave8274
12-18-2011, 04:12 PM
I have never said we need to fire our coach.... but am now of that mindset. I love Coach Coughlin....BUT.....when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>


Sure, we have had injuries... but so have other teams.... and they overcame them. We consistently fall on our own sword in key games, against teams we are supposed to beat. That tells me our coaches are not getting players ready. The scheme is not sound. The intensity is lacking. *It is a problem on both sides of the ball, and every player "today" did not play up to their potential. </P>

Unfortunately, Mara's comments after last season pretty much confirm that the job is Coughlin's until he dies or retires. How can you justify firing a coach after you go on record as saying that wins and losses aren't a coaches fault, it's the payers who need to make the plays?

If you don't fire him last year for a collapse, what has changed this year?

midnite_nj
12-18-2011, 04:15 PM
I have never said we need to fire our coach.... but am now of that mindset. I love Coach Coughlin....BUT.....when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>


Sure, we have had injuries... but so have other teams.... and they overcame them. We consistently fall on our own sword in key games, against teams we are supposed to beat. That tells me our coaches are not getting players ready. The scheme is not sound. The intensity is lacking. It is a problem on both sides of the ball, and every player "today" did not play up to their potential. </P>


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That pretty much sums it up. These guys are pathetic. It seems like they dont care either way win or lose and then we hear some bull crap interviews post game telling us how prepared they were and how they didnt match the other teams intensity and then finish it off with some at the end of the day crap our season is still not over. blah blah, blahh. Im sick of it. We deserve more than this as fans. i dont mind losing but lposing without effort or heart is unnacceptable. Who's with me?</P>

rebelfan1966
12-18-2011, 04:15 PM
It will be up to the fans to put the pressure on.....

miked1958
12-18-2011, 04:16 PM
I have never said we need to fire our coach.... but am now of that mindset. I love Coach Coughlin....BUT.....when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>


Sure, we have had injuries... but so have other teams.... and they overcame them. We consistently fall on our own sword in key games, against teams we are supposed to beat. That tells me our coaches are not getting players ready. The scheme is not sound. The intensity is lacking. *It is a problem on both sides of the ball, and every player "today" did not play up to their potential. </P>
Changes need to be made NOW, this week. Heads need to role for this. To many times in last several seasons we have destiny in our hands and just don't show up on either side of the ball and at HOME. No less

buddy33
12-18-2011, 04:17 PM
If?

tonyt830
12-18-2011, 04:17 PM
The Giants were not up for this game, but history shows the Giants tend to play down to their opponents.</P>


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I say its time to clean house---Coughlin, Gilbride, Fewell, Quinn---see ya!</P>


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And with the roster, I would say most are not safe---keep Eli, Nicks, Cruz, and Pierre-Paul. Everyone else is fair game--including Tuck, Osi, Canty, Rolle</P>

jparmer
12-18-2011, 04:17 PM
Changes need to be made regardless in my opinion. But I truly believe mara has too much integrity to fire coach Coughlin. I guarantee Coughlin finishes his contract.

Redeyejedi
12-18-2011, 04:19 PM
Is it worth the Giants going to the playoffs for another season of this. Making the playoffs means everything stays the same

giantsforce
12-18-2011, 04:20 PM
I have never said we need to fire our coach.... but am now of that mindset. I love Coach Coughlin....BUT.....when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>


Sure, we have had injuries... but so have other teams.... and they overcame them. We consistently fall on our own sword in key games, against teams we are supposed to beat. That tells me our coaches are not getting players ready. The scheme is not sound. The intensity is lacking. *It is a problem on both sides of the ball, and every player "today" did not play up to their potential. </P>IF??? What are you talking about? We will be lucky to finish 3rd in the NFC. Or do you think this team will be the Jets ans the Cowboys again?I got news for you: IT AIN'T Happening.

Redeyejedi
12-18-2011, 04:20 PM
The Giants were not up for this game, but history shows the Giants tend to play down to their opponents.</P>


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I say its time to clean house---Coughlin, Gilbride, Fewell, Quinn---see ya!</P>


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And with the roster, I would say most are not safe---keep Eli, Nicks, Cruz, and Pierre-Paul.* Everyone else is fair game--including Tuck, Osi, Canty, Rolle</P>Knicks got a verbal ok from baron Davis he is on his way to NY to sign

tabar1
12-18-2011, 04:22 PM
putrid game. every aspect. how do you come out this flat?!
cant stand Gilbrides play calling. red zone plays stink. fade, fade, fade. enuff already. do something different for a change. and can some one tell the wide outs its ok to catch the ball!

Tenspro2002
12-18-2011, 04:25 PM
when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>

This. We've played 5 home games against terrible teams, and only *1* of those games have we shown up to play (STL).

The other 4 (MIA, SEA, PHI, WAS) we came out completely flat, and only one of those games we managed to win.

The players simply do not respond to TC, especially when things start out poorly.

Blue58
12-18-2011, 04:31 PM
First of all this team is not a playoff caliber team otherwise the would not continually put out stinkers like today &amp; like they have the last couple of years. If a miracle happens &amp; they make the playoffs there still has to be changes made. This constant not showing up to play in important games have to stop especially at home. Tom and staff has run its course. Time for a new voice

Keithnyg
12-18-2011, 04:33 PM
Did you say playoffs? We have one win in the last 6 weeks! Playoffs?!? Don't talk about playoffs! Playoffs! Are you kidding me?!

Tenspro2002
12-18-2011, 04:34 PM
when a team comes out flat as ofter as this team does, it has to start with the Head Coach.</P>

This. We've played 5 home games against terrible teams, and only *1* of those games have we shown up to play (STL).

The other 4 (MIA, SEA, PHI, WAS) we came out completely flat, and only one of those games we managed to win.

The players simply do not respond to TC, especially when things start out poorly.

To elaborate on the players not responding to TC: It's hard to get excited about going to work when you don't like and can't relate to your boss. It's a fact of life.

It's not the boss's fault, it's not the employee's fault. But when you're talking about a "fit", it's easier to change one person than to change fifty. The players of this generation simply do not respond to the kind of coaching that was prevalent in the 70's and 80's.

tonyt830
12-18-2011, 04:52 PM
The Giants were not up for this game, but history shows the Giants tend to play down to their opponents.</P>


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I say its time to clean house---Coughlin, Gilbride, Fewell, Quinn---see ya!</P>


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And with the roster, I would say most are not safe---keep Eli, Nicks, Cruz, and Pierre-Paul. Everyone else is fair game--including Tuck, Osi, Canty, Rolle</P>Knicks got a verbal ok from baron Davis he is on his way to NY to signthanks for the update Redeye!