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TroyArcher
10-04-2012, 12:18 PM
If Randle is so "unprepared" what does that say about Jernigan? Why wouldn't he be considered to help fill the void?

giantsfan420
10-04-2012, 12:19 PM
bc we have a guy who gives us what JJ might be able to give us; Cruz out of the slot.

If Nicks AND Barden are out, we need someone to fill in his role, and thats Randle

CowboysSuck
10-04-2012, 12:21 PM
Jernigan wasn't as a high a pick as randle. That and the fact the Jernigan hasn't done squat tells me he isn't the player we thought we drafted. It happens.

fansince69
10-04-2012, 12:24 PM
bc we have a guy who gives us what JJ might be able to give us; Cruz out of the slot.

If Nicks AND Barden are out, we need someone to fill in his role, and thats Randle

Was thinking same thing...Plus the fumbles have put him in Coughlin's dog house and he is low enough on the depth chart...it won't matter how much talent he has ...he's in a tough place in Coughlin's eyes....mark my words he's going to force some people on here to eat crow

TheEnigma
10-04-2012, 12:24 PM
Jernigan was drafted to be the replacement for Steve Smith in the slot. Unfortunately for him, we have a slot receiver coming off a 1500 yard season and is now on pace for that once more. Tough break and he would probably only see the field if Cruz was injured.

RoanokeFan
10-04-2012, 12:30 PM
If Randle is so "unprepared" what does that say about Jernigan? Why wouldn't he be considered to help fill the void?

If we take a comfortable lead, we may well get to see Jernigan involved in the offense. Look how long it has taken Barden.

DaKraken
10-04-2012, 12:58 PM
We got bigger fish to fry boys than worrying about Jernigan. Right now he's a non-factor at a position of strength. One just has to hope that as with other backups he's putting in his work, learning to be a pro, improving his game so that if/when his number is called he's ready to make something happen.

RoanokeFan
10-04-2012, 01:05 PM
We got bigger fish to fry boys than worrying about Jernigan. Right now he's a non-factor at a position of strength. One just has to hope that as with other backups he's putting in his work, learning to be a pro, improving his game so that if/when his number is called he's ready to make something happen.

True enough, but that can change in a heartbeat as we have seen in the secondary

TroyArcher
10-04-2012, 01:41 PM
We got bigger fish to fry boys than worrying about Jernigan. Right now he's a non-factor at a position of strength. One just has to hope that as with other backups he's putting in his work, learning to be a pro, improving his game so that if/when his number is called he's ready to make something happen.

I understand it just seems that Randle is not ready to play at this level. They guy doesn't have a clue what he is doing and his work habits are not very good. I hope I am wrong but we will see if Randle can step it up. They will sure double Cruz and make it tough on the passing game again.

GameTime
10-04-2012, 01:51 PM
I understand it just seems that Randle is not ready to play at this level. They guy doesn't have a clue what he is doing and his work habits are not very good. I hope I am wrong but we will see if Randle can step it up. They will sure double Cruz and make it tough on the passing game again.
a few comments doesnt mean his work ethic "isnt very good". If anything, with the comemnts that were made, it just means he has to prepare like a starter and not a back up. This is getting blown out of proportion IMO

TroyArcher
10-04-2012, 05:11 PM
a few comments doesnt mean his work ethic "isnt very good". If anything, with the comemnts that were made, it just means he has to prepare like a starter and not a back up. This is getting blown out of proportion IMO

Hope so. He won't last long with Giants with a bad attitude,

TuckandRolle
10-04-2012, 05:27 PM
Jernigan is just so small in my opinion. lol, they just forget he's there.

JesseJames
10-04-2012, 06:08 PM
We got bigger fish to fry boys than worrying about Jernigan. Right now he's a non-factor at a position of strength. One just has to hope that as with other backups he's putting in his work, learning to be a pro, improving his game so that if/when his number is called he's ready to make something happen.

that position of strength is getting weaker and weaker with Nicks out and now it looks like Barden might not play...

dave56dj
10-04-2012, 06:30 PM
Patience is a virtue most fans of the NFL have no interest in. Jernigan will be activated this week and most likely he will be the 4th wr but may get some 3rd looks if Randle cant handle the whole playbook.

Stop with the small thing - plenty of dmaned good wideouts are small (welker, santana moss, hawkins) when you have a great QB the only factor that matters is GETTING OPEN and being where you are supposed to be. This can take rookies and inexperienced players like Jernigan a lot of time. Some never get it - but we ARE WAY TO EARLY in eithers career to write them off. That said, Randle ahead of jernigan on the giants depth chart is a sign that they believe in him a bit more then jernal right now.

Still it's likely JJ gets a chance at some point - or he may go the way of sinorice - but its too early in his career to tell.

moosedrool
10-04-2012, 08:01 PM
Much smaller window for Manning to throw to at 5'8". Cruz at 6'1" is a stud in the slot. Plus Randle and Wilson are returning kicks, so basically he's a wasted draft pick

45Jones
10-04-2012, 08:44 PM
If I remember right, Mario Manningham didn't hardly see the field at all during his first season, and still had route running struggles and dropsies as he worked his way into the lineup in the season after that.

RoanokeFan
10-04-2012, 08:48 PM
If I remember right, Mario Manningham didn't hardly see the field at all during his first season, and still had route running struggles and dropsies as he worked his way into the lineup in the season after that.

You're just a "Homer" :rolleyes:

45Jones
10-04-2012, 08:56 PM
You're just a "Homer" :rolleyes:

Yessir, that's true.

RoanokeFan
10-04-2012, 09:01 PM
Yessir, that's true.

Welcome aboard

jomo
10-04-2012, 09:02 PM
If I remember right, Mario Manningham didn't hardly see the field at all during his first season, and still had route running struggles and dropsies as he worked his way into the lineup in the season after that.It is true. Not only do you have to train physically at a whole different level in the NFL but with the Giants, you have to master a very complicated read and react route running package. Manningham, despite his enormous gifts, never got it completely. Jernigan and Randle are still struggling to get that part of it. Not much different from RB who better not fumble and darn well better protect the QB. If a WR is making the wrong reads, he will sit on this team. It doesn't mean they won't get it and it doesn't even mean they are not working hard. It just means that they aren't grasping the essentials of route running to play for us.

RoanokeFan
10-04-2012, 09:05 PM
It is true. Not only do you have to train physically at a whole different level in the NFL but with the Giants, you have to master a very complicated read and react route running package. Manningham, despite his enormous gifts, never got it completely. Jernigan and Randle are still struggling to get that part of it. Not much different from RB who better not fumble and darn well better protect the QB. If a WR is making the wrong reads, he will sit on this team. It doesn't mean they won't get it and it doesn't even mean they are not working hard. It just means that they aren't grasping the essentials of route running to play for us.

+1

gmen46
10-04-2012, 09:09 PM
If I remember right, Mario Manningham didn't hardly see the field at all during his first season, and still had route running struggles and dropsies as he worked his way into the lineup in the season after that.

True, but Manningham's second season finished to be MM's 2nd best season of his career. At this point in his second season Mario had at least 2 good games including at least 1 TD (vs Redskins and Cowboys that I remember).

So far this, his second season, Jernigan has not even had his his feet in the field of play for more than a handful of snaps, and that's including 1 game without 2 of our 6 WRs. That should tell you something about Gilbride' and Eli's trust in Jernigan. Virtually nil.

Add the fact that 2 rookies--Wilson and Randle-- have had many return opportunities this season (and have done well with those opportunities) while Jernigan has not, and what does that leave Jernigan with to do? He's on extremely thin ice right now, make no mistake.

A lot has been made on this board about comparing Jernigan's slow start to that of Barden. But what is forgotten with that comparison is that in Barden's 2nd year he had some snaps, culminating in a very decent game vs Cowboys before he went on IR for the second half of season due to injury in that same Cowboys game. Then, his 3rd season (last year) he was on PUP for half the year before getting some snaps late in the year. Jernigan does not have the injury excuse.

Captain Chaos
10-05-2012, 06:37 AM
I was always a fan of Barden and I knew that it would take him time to assimilate into the Pro offense, it paid off. I am also a fan of Jernigan, the kid has talent I think the Giant's see that as well and will continue to work with him. I hope that we get to see him this weekend if Barden can't go!

GMENAGAIN
10-05-2012, 07:31 AM
It is true. Not only do you have to train physically at a whole different level in the NFL but with the Giants, you have to master a very complicated read and react route running package. Manningham, despite his enormous gifts, never got it completely. Jernigan and Randle are still struggling to get that part of it. Not much different from RB who better not fumble and darn well better protect the QB. If a WR is making the wrong reads, he will sit on this team. It doesn't mean they won't get it and it doesn't even mean they are not working hard. It just means that they aren't grasping the essentials of route running to play for us.

Well put.

The fact that Jernigan hasn't been able to get on the field with all of the injuries we've had at WR says a lot about what the coaches think of his ability to contribute at this point.

Cool Papa B.
10-05-2012, 08:49 AM
Well put.

The fact that Jernigan hasn't been able to get on the field with all of the injuries we've had at WR says a lot about what the coaches think of his ability to contribute at this point.

+1.....

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he even played one down in the Carolina game. The Giants were blowing out the Panthers and they didn't even give him a play at the end. I don't know if it's work ethic, or he's still not grasping the playbook.

Redeyejedi
10-05-2012, 08:58 AM
Jernigan wasn't as a high a pick as randle. That and the fact the Jernigan hasn't done squat tells me he isn't the player we thought we drafted. It happens. They were 20 picks apart. A late 2nd and a middling 3rd is the same quality of player